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Oh god this page is just WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS, sorry about that guys, but I guess fair enough since they’re in a debate. Debates are bound to be full of words.
Look at those flashbacks.
god mike looks so bad
The funny thing is that the broken windows theory is actually probably not actually true; while it sounds really good, the problem is that the relationship is the other way round - it is the crime which causes the broken windows, not the windows which cause the crime.
Poor Tessa, though; she’s thinking of it, but she was a bully herself at one point.
I do love Sue straining under the weight of the balloon though <3
Titanium Dragon December 17, 2010, 12:00 AM EST.
Wow, more text then there is comic today!
Abbey, the Bully-Buster. He’s been beefing up his arms, if he can’t win the fight in the vote, he’ll win it in the halls.
I love how Abbey’s speech is crushing Sue. Literally.
Rukral December 17, 2010, 12:00 AM EST.
Abby your arguments are inval-
oh wai i completely agree with Abby :p
infernofox December 17, 2010, 12:00 AM EST.
I think in olden tymes, you would get your hand cut off for stealing a loaf of bread…
Yay for extreme policies!
Yoinkinator December 17, 2010, 12:01 AM EST.
emperor bacon December 17, 2010, 12:01 AM EST.
Godless December 17, 2010, 12:01 AM EST.
Abbey. So awesome.
Luei December 17, 2010, 12:02 AM EST.
Thooper theriouth thyme!
Seg December 17, 2010, 12:02 AM EST.
Lol at Sue!!
Happy Face 2.0 December 17, 2010, 12:02 AM EST.
uhh sorry but abbey just ownt you big time =P
Ultimate being December 17, 2010, 12:04 AM EST.
I feel like Mike is having an realization.
Leaving a Comment December 17, 2010, 12:05 AM EST.
Sue’s literally getting crushed by Abbey’s argument.
Helmic December 17, 2010, 12:05 AM EST.
Agree. Totally and utterly agree. Never was bullied, but I hate it nontheless
Vivitas December 17, 2010, 12:06 AM EST.
Anyone noticed Abbey’s eye being black instead of green on panel 6?
Lightkun December 17, 2010, 12:06 AM EST.
Abbey does pose a good point. If it weren’t so Draconian, people would definitely agree with him.
Of course, being expelled for picking on someone can get pretty messy. What if you just make a joke amongst acquaintences that nobody in their right minds would find offensive? Except someone happens to have a grudge against you, puts on their crying face, and tells the Principal that you were bullying them. BAM, expulsion.
This webcomic continues to surprise and confound me. I’m liking it more and more!
Major Freddy December 17, 2010, 12:07 AM EST.
Whooo! Yay Abbey!
ClosetLucy December 17, 2010, 12:07 AM EST.
“Abbey, what is best in life?”
“To crush my enemies, see them flee before me, and to hear the lamentations of their women!”
“…I think I hear McCain weeping?”
“Eh, good enough.”
Itty-Bitty Spider December 17, 2010, 12:09 AM EST.
Wow Taeshi that’s quite a view. Similar to the idea of Nuclear deterrent through further nuclear armament. People don’t agree with it but it works. Don’t know if you had that in mind but that’s what it reminded me of
Gotta say I’m loving the art this chapter and I think that Mike looks genuinely thoughtful. Some past mistakes being revisited perhaps? Hope he figures them out =)
Keep up the kickass work so I can keep reading it!
Itsu December 17, 2010, 12:10 AM EST.
Go Abbey! Go Abbey!
DrBurple December 17, 2010, 12:11 AM EST.
Daisy is incredibly cute in that panel.
Random December 17, 2010, 12:11 AM EST.
abbey is way over reacting, hes gotta calm down
JetFire December 17, 2010, 12:11 AM EST.
Extreme Abbey is extreme. I’d at least give them a week to get it in their heads they’ll be expelled next time. After that weak, well… Abbey’s child of an abused person is showing.
Hoheh December 17, 2010, 12:15 AM EST.
Maybe Im slow but, why is Michael reacting to this?
The Other Mike (Mikaro) December 17, 2010, 12:18 AM EST.
well hai dere mikey! FANSHY SHEEIN YOU DERE!
Sethorien December 17, 2010, 12:19 AM EST.
Mike’s into this debate and Tess is sad. Again. Her past will not be lived down. She will get no happy ending, though she tries to earn one. There is no hope of it. He past left too many emotional scars. It’s not even worth hoping for. Hope would simply be a hopeless endeavor for her. She just keeps falling….. Falling down down dow…
Hoheh December 17, 2010, 12:20 AM EST.
I don’t see any swords, Taeshi…
Baeleox December 17, 2010, 12:20 AM EST.
Abbey is not overreacting. He knows firsthand how bad bullying he get. It can start out as teasing, but over time, it can escalate into someone being beaten to a pulp. And no one cares. Bullying is ignored in schools too much. It should not be tolerated. No one deserves to be treated badly, especially not an innocent. You think he’s overreacting, but he’s seen it. With his mother, with his friends, and he doesn’t want anyone else to have to experience it.
Tsukaiz December 17, 2010, 12:26 AM EST.
I respect Abbey’s willingness to break the cycle.
Hoheh December 17, 2010, 12:29 AM EST.
Strict measures should be done because most people cannot change/learn otherwise. It’s sad but true. Also I COMPLETELY agree with his statement “Abuse is not a game”.
Whitetigercubmia December 17, 2010, 12:29 AM EST.
Indeed, because expulsion (which can cripple a student’s academic career. Especially at the high-school level) will solve absolutely everything! No strings attached! Yup, no-way the threat of expulsion will have unintended consequences of the witch-trial variety!
We certainly wouldn’t want to, you know, actually HELP and reform students guilty of bullying. Because that would mean having to see them as people.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, methinks Abbey may be projecting a bit here.
Hoo-ya December 17, 2010, 12:29 AM EST.
Abbey would shake things up, as Sue was going for. Yes. Everybody who isn’t a bully wins. And bullies suck.
Hoheh December 17, 2010, 12:35 AM EST.
Still, if we’re to teach the youth of tomorrow we can’t just throw them out of the schools for one offense. That’s why there is usually a series of interventions that lead up to expulsion. Warnings, detentions, suspensions, not to mention talks with the parents, possible police intervention, etc. I love the idea of eradicating bullying, but this wouldn’t do it. It’d just put the bullies on the streets with a huge chip on their shoulder. I have a lot of experience with this kind of stuff, too. I’m a teacher, lol. And I don’t put up with bullying in my classroom or in the hallways.
MikeyMike December 17, 2010, 12:36 AM EST.
as i said he ****edyourbrainout.
Bloodbath December 17, 2010, 12:37 AM EST.
Okay even though this comic line is very well made and planned out…there is but one thing I cannot understand is why the parents don’t even seem to notice this. What like Tessa’s mom decided to hate her too? Did she comfort her? There is a big gap in that area! I know this is mostly based on the students but…seriously? Does all the character’s parents don’t give a **** or just dumb as hell? An example. Tessa sneaked out to see her ‘love’ right? Wouldn’t the mom notice at all? Then at least perhaps catch onto what is actually happening to her dear daughter? And even in that, during the speech, the teacher or w/e saw all the school students cut Tessa down I’m sure she would tell her parents every now and then. Nothing can be kept a secret when people are screaming “SHE DOESN’T DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE” “HAHA **** DESERVED IT!” this doesn’t make any sense! Please if you have an understanding of how the parents work then please be a bit more realistic and show a bit more realization in this comic. It’s starting to kill me on how unreal the drama is turning out into this long tangled mess.
???? December 17, 2010, 12:38 AM EST.
Maybe Abbey is right, expulsion isn’t the answer.
… Juvenile hall is…
Aethrys December 17, 2010, 12:38 AM EST.
The inclusion of an alternate school for bullies? To be fair, bullies asren’t usually oos into learning to begin with. Maybe military school. Whip them into shape WHILE teaching them!
Hoheh December 17, 2010, 12:39 AM EST.
Wowww, he’s gone off the deep end. “You’ll be safe are Roseville high. They kicked out anyone being remotely like a bully into the street. Watch what you say! ”
Hey, it’d probably work, but I’d never in a million years support it. Everything is not black and white. Hell, ask Tess where she’d be under good ol abbey’s policy…
TK December 17, 2010, 12:42 AM EST.
Wait! I’ve got it! Conscript them into the military. They’re always complaining they don’t have enough cannon fodder…
Aethrys December 17, 2010, 12:42 AM EST.
Um I have a question to ask…..why is Mike and Lucy still um…’friends’ he’s being a ****ing douche bag. Why stick with him? Lucy loves him and all that jazz but you think a girl would learn that someone doesn’t like you by now! If someone is being that big of a jerk to you whether it is your fault or not they should still love you the way you are. I still can’t believe so far Lucy is still being a crying bitch when really the problem can be solved as “Oh, okay **** you I’m out.” and really meaning it. Knowing Mike he would probably come begging at her feet to be friends again anyway! Let the prissy bleed out on his ‘period’ and leave him be till he finally grows a pair!
Another thing….This Sandy and Mike relationship is…rather stupid and seeming to be as a cover lie…I’ve noticed that during the comic line souly based upon Sally and Mike calling each other blah blah blah, but that loves is burnt. I can already tell that A. The poor relationship continues… B. They break up by Sandy or Mike giving in.
Kiomio December 17, 2010, 12:45 AM EST.
long haired Tess?
THIS IS THE BEST WEEK EVER!
Beardfire December 17, 2010, 12:47 AM EST.
I mean, I can see why he feels that way.
Though has he ever stop to think that about 40% of bullies are themselves bullied. Perhaps we shouldn’t just look to stopping it but look into whats causing it.
OR MAYBE I’M JUST BEING TOO REALISTIC ABOUT A COMIC THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DRAMATIC.
also sources just in case:
Jen December 17, 2010, 12:47 AM EST.
Michael December 17, 2010, 12:50 AM EST.
Lol, the 2nd flashback panel doesn’t really look like bullying, just a hand slap ^.^, I Manly if I slap someones hand
CTS4Kouhei December 17, 2010, 12:56 AM EST.
Believe me relationships are never that simple. Especially when you have so much history with someone. Trust me on this one. It’s a sad situation but we have no idea what will happen with it either. Maybe Lucy will get over it, maybe Mike will come around. Hell maybe Mike will come around as Lucy gets over it and a whole new set of problems will come out of it. Regardless of what happens you accept the choices that are made. Mike and Lucy care about each other, there’s no doubt about that. Even if Mike denies it I bet he would feel an emptiness if he lost Lucy.
We don’t know that now though, so just hang on and keep reading. Personally I can’t wait to see how these characters continue to develop =)
Itsu December 17, 2010, 12:57 AM EST.
Sue needs McCain badly.
Pepe Le Pew December 17, 2010, 12:58 AM EST.
Suuuuueeeeesuesuesue why do you look so fantastic in panel 3?
And Abbey, chill bro, you’re trying to deal into some serious overkill here.
I don’t really see how Abbey plans on getting these students expelled. I somehow don’t believe the student secretary has that ability.
Bubzgonzola December 17, 2010, 1:04 AM EST.
Panel 3: Sue IS the robot, or at least it looks that way ^_^;
StarSturdy December 17, 2010, 1:05 AM EST.
AMEN, BROTHER ABBEY!!!
Sarge December 17, 2010, 1:09 AM EST.
oh Taeshi, your words speak to my soul. give me more beautiful words. and more sad kitty eyes, their tears taste sooo sweeet.
Sen December 17, 2010, 1:10 AM EST.
The fight against crime is war all of its own with no real defiant means for eliminating it. All we can really do is take the necessary steps and precautions to avoid it and fight when necessary.
starfighter-105 December 17, 2010, 1:10 AM EST.
I see your point… …Although if the bigger the problems are,the longer the expulsion sentence? That’s what i get from this and furthermore,outside school grounds is like a warzone compared to the school sanctuary if this rule is implied,the school has no authority outside school gates and thus cannot do much to put an end to a incident without conflict.
TalonStripe December 17, 2010, 1:11 AM EST.
Dang Sue .. You care about nothing but winning this electon thing…
GO ABBEY GO!
I TOTALLY agree with Abbey here…
Because bulling is becoming a HUGE problem these days.
I`ve seen it.
And I think its just wrong for people to take advantage of people for no apparent reason and just making fun of people for there looks,personality and ect..
Thanks Taeshi for making this clear.
Cant wait to see where this goes. :3
Cats4ever98 December 17, 2010, 1:12 AM EST.
abbey looks so hard core with his buff arms, mike looks like hes marinating in the debate, just taking it all in… hes wayy to into it lol. haha u hold tht ballon bubble sue
miss whit December 17, 2010, 1:19 AM EST.
@Taeshi: Lol, in panel 7 I can see how you accidentally made Tess’s hair its current instead of old length and had to go back and add in another little segment.
Not trying to be rude, just wanted to know if that’s right.
Male Snorunt December 17, 2010, 1:20 AM EST.
Abbey, for God’s sake, shut up! You can’t deal with problems that way!
I know personaly how it is to be bullied, but just throwing them out dosn’t help!
Look at Tess - there’s a reason why she’s bullied, she was a bully, but she got a second chance, and changed! Argh, Abbey……….
... December 17, 2010, 1:21 AM EST.
U said prepaired is it supposed to be repaired? Also sue is holding the speech bubble roflmoa
DeadspaceII December 17, 2010, 1:24 AM EST.
As much as I love Abbey’s reasons for saying this for Tess, he also has to realize that in her situation she started bullying first. He’s thinking single mindedly, only for what affects him and what he cares for.
SmashFiles December 17, 2010, 1:26 AM EST.
I have to question your logic, Titanium Dragon. While what you say may be true, you have to remember that it’s already broken because of the crime. And that people are just going to keep breaking them because nobody’s going to do anything about it. Like the morals. If they say “I like my windows intact, but I won’t fix the ones you break!” its just as bad as saying “We discourage bullying, but we don’t do anything to stop it!”.
KratosTheBlood December 17, 2010, 1:27 AM EST.
Reminds me of when this lady walked into our school and stole all sorts of stuff from lockers. Then she did it again and the teachers surrounded her in her car.
Cole December 17, 2010, 1:33 AM EST.
too much text… need a tl;dr.. jk i read it go abby
meowwowo December 17, 2010, 1:36 AM EST.
Cute Daisy is Cute! <3 …..I have no opinion on the current debate 8D;;
RaeMoon December 17, 2010, 1:37 AM EST.
BITCH BE TRIPPIN!
Shadow December 17, 2010, 1:38 AM EST.
i hope this ad is fo some poh no
Some guy December 17, 2010, 1:39 AM EST.
omg mike is so cute! lol, sue. Abbey is a boss. I’ll enjoy sue’s rebuttal, I’m sure.
Keith_Z December 17, 2010, 1:53 AM EST.
I think Mike looks like a girl in this one…
Flak December 17, 2010, 1:54 AM EST.
Gotta ask why does Mike look like Lucy wearing Mikes scarf?
Chained_Heart December 17, 2010, 2:22 AM EST.
Wow, there’s so much text that it almost crushes Sue, literally!
Darf14 December 17, 2010, 2:25 AM EST.
Hmm, while Abbey’s stand against bullying is a little extreme, I find myself agreeing with his points. A sad but true fact is that leniency tends to only encourage more acts of bullying, theft, arson, or whatever the case is. Bullies might not be inherently malicious, and while almost all of them are redeemable, nine times out of ten they WILL seize an opportunity to continue their abuse of innocents if the reasons for their bullying are not resolved. Which is exactly why I agree with Abbey in this regard. However, I don’t think it can be so simple as “one strike and you’re expelled”, since as some commenters have stated before, this could lead to a witch trials-esque catastrophe. So first things first, if you’re going to have a literal “no tolerance” policy, make sure you investigate any supposed incidents to make sure they are valid.
Like Abbey, I am very adamant about my anti-bullying position. However, I also firmly believe in giving individuals a second chance to learn from their mistakes. Not all bullies are mean just to be mean. Some of them are simply insecure about themselves, and subconsciously feel the need to put others down to make themselves feel better. Some of them could be like Abbey, living under abusive parents, siblings, and other relatives/guardians, where treating others as such is the only way they know how(or perhaps they just want to lash out at the world for their suffering). This is why I think there should be a small option to the rule. Put simply, allow them the option to get help to resolve the reasons for their behavior. If you redeem someone who was a bully, you not only have another person who can speak out against other bullies, but a person who has experienced the dark side of being a bully and can give both sides’ view. Who knows, you might end up saving some people from expulsion because of their past (Look at Tess, she’s trying to redeem herself after what’s happened to her).
A Dreamer December 17, 2010, 2:32 AM EST.
How to deal with Bullies (if you are a teacher):
step 1: call the bully to your office
step 2: tell him to sit down
step 3: pace around the room a bit
step 4: run and back hand him in the face 4 times calling him a bully
step 5: tell him it will be double next time
step 6: sit back and drink some ****ing doctor pepper
JetFire December 17, 2010, 2:37 AM EST.
Mikey looks like a widdle girl :]
I like Sue in pannel 5, being squashed by the WORDSWORDSWORDS avalanche.
Regulus December 17, 2010, 2:46 AM EST.
good old abbey
(but surly bullies are bullies because they aren’t happy… they will still be bullies where ever they go…
bigdogstan December 17, 2010, 2:47 AM EST.
oh dear, contreversy…
(nameless) December 17, 2010, 2:52 AM EST.
Squished by the weight of WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS.
Profesor Rod December 17, 2010, 3:00 AM EST.
Male Snorunt: What are you talking about? It’s not an accidental slip-up, it’s a flashback sequence to something that happened during freshman year for the mains.
Taeshi December 17, 2010, 3:05 AM EST.
Wow. What an inspiring speech!
How could you think about all of this Taeshi?!
Remarkable as always.
SDVII December 17, 2010, 3:07 AM EST.
What like Tessa’s mom decided to hate her too? Did she comfort her?
No, why would you think that? Maybe she was just unable to console Tess completely, most parents aren’t.
There’s some artistic license of course, but it’s not bizarre to think someone could have a rough time at school while the parents are unaware, anyway.
SuitCase December 17, 2010, 3:16 AM EST.
but i liked the fourth wall…
why’d you have to go and break it, sue?
NobodyYouKnow December 17, 2010, 3:17 AM EST.
ABBEY FOR PRESIDENT!!! srry Sue Dx He does have a point, without a proper punishment theyll continue with the violence….. even so, some say its extreme, think about it, if u receive detention ull reach a point when u think “Meh, its just detention” and ull continue whatever u did just cause the punishment its not a big deal… u_u WALL TEXT FTW!!
Leonmaster December 17, 2010, 3:21 AM EST.
As a prefect for my school. I whole heartedley agree.
ABBEY FOR THE WIN
C December 17, 2010, 3:23 AM EST.
OMG! Abbey your the most awesome character EVA!!
kirkiss December 17, 2010, 3:25 AM EST.
drama, romance, politics. Damn, thes cat comics have it all X3
Uncle Bob December 17, 2010, 3:26 AM EST.
I totally lost some respect for abbey here.
I’ll just quote something:
“ONLY A SITH DEALS IN ABSOLUTES”
Lycan December 17, 2010, 3:33 AM EST.
i’m voting for Abbey
Soot December 17, 2010, 3:34 AM EST.
Jesus, I remember a time where I was that emotionless and cruel, i got the most **** done back then.-True story of 8th grade incoming-
Planting stolen items into the nearest *******, walking up to the teacher, and going, “Excuse me sir, but (unnamed stolen object) is missing. Then getting the said ******* into juvinile, when he came back the next year, he cut his main artery with school scissors… I wonder what happened after he was rushed to the ER
Kekon December 17, 2010, 3:40 AM EST.
@Soot I’m seconding that motion, I don’t like bullies…..
Someguysname December 17, 2010, 3:44 AM EST.
MICHEAL YOUR PARTICAPATION GRADE
Nick xsy December 17, 2010, 3:47 AM EST.
shut your word pipe mike looks ADORABLE
Kavukamari December 17, 2010, 3:53 AM EST.
****ing hell I wish we had someone like Abbey in my school.
SushiJaguar December 17, 2010, 4:13 AM EST.
Abbey used hyper voice. Sued fainted!
Ana aka Knux-the-Killer December 17, 2010, 4:32 AM EST.
cool abby is so harsh he’s epic
quils3 December 17, 2010, 4:37 AM EST.
A topic close to my heart.
School, not just high-school, was just day after day of getting my dignity taken from me. I’m developmentally disabled, and although I’m academically very intelligent, things like social intelligence is something I didn’t get the hang of until I started working.
I got tired of the ********, tired of my brother and I getting disrespected, tired of taking people’s ****. One day someone pointed out that I’m actually a little bigger than most of my agressor’s. Throw in teenage hormones. and that’s all it took to turn me into the school pyscho.
Instead of controlling my anger, I let my anger control me. I forgot what being a man is all about, and I started to pick fights with people with which I knew I would win.
I had always been taught not to hit girls, but by this point in time, I was in total ***-whole ******** mode. One day I was trying to get into my locker that a girl in my glass was leaning on. I asked her to move. I thought she said something snide. I lost it, slammed her against the locker and yelled something the effect of “you bitch”.
Seven years later, that still keeps me up at night. I’m a very calm, collected person these days. I don’t back down from guys who think they can muscle their way through life though, I have a strong contempt for them that’s rooted in myself.
Deathhound December 17, 2010, 4:58 AM EST.
Actually, I agree with Abbey’s statement.
We must kill all the non-believers who disagree with My laws of Protagonism. My complex shall stand high among all others!
GaijinDX December 17, 2010, 5:09 AM EST.
to long, did not read
JetFire December 17, 2010, 5:30 AM EST.
Instead of controlling my anger, I let it flow into me and turn me into the kid who looks like the innocent nice white kid, but that’s only who I am in front of the teachers and authority figures so that they would trust me. I’m actually the fearless kid who goes up to the major bullies, annoy the crap out of them (I have a knack for that), get them to drop their innocent act (because that’s how bullies stay undetected), and the teacher will handle the rest. I felt like Light from Death Note. Because I was doing things for all the wrong reasons, but I didn’t care, because it was too fun to watch them fall into my trap.
Kekon December 17, 2010, 5:32 AM EST.
I completely agree with you Abbey.
But if he was running in my school and won, literally almost everyone in the school would be…um… Whatever word Abbey just said.
BREADEDCHEESE! December 17, 2010, 5:40 AM EST.
i like how he thinks but i still like corporal punishment
kickash December 17, 2010, 5:40 AM EST.
He’s got my vote :o
And the reason is not only the fact Abbey’s my fav char…
And you even used the broken windows effect…
Zera December 17, 2010, 5:46 AM EST.
Abby obviously doesn’t know that; while a permanent punishment (for lack of a better term) can be effective to some degree, in the long run it’s best to start with less harsh punishments, then work your way up, that way the bully gets at least one chance to learn his/her lesson.
Also, Abby looks like he needs to learn to hate the crime, not the criminal.
Klardy December 17, 2010, 5:56 AM EST.
ABBEY USES SOMEWHAT HYPOCRITICAL REASONING.
IT’S SUPER EFFECTIVE!
MIKE HAS BEEN CHARMED!
Misky December 17, 2010, 5:57 AM EST.
Looks like Mike and Tess are gonna vote for Abby for sure
Mike looks feminine xD
kurokan December 17, 2010, 6:01 AM EST.
Continuation of what I put on the last page?
I THINK SO!
Bobthecamel555 December 17, 2010, 6:01 AM EST.
Firewolf December 17, 2010, 6:16 AM EST.
Well, Sh*t just got real.
Leo December 17, 2010, 6:37 AM EST.
Cute Daisy is cute! <3
I’m loving Abbey more by the second. I’ll probably register for like 5 different IDs, just so I can vote for him loads of times
And I love the way his speech bubble is squishing Sue. A fitting metaphor, i see
Bowdensaft December 17, 2010, 6:46 AM EST.
Has anyone noticed Sue in the 5th panel breaking the 4th wall?
JimmyP424 December 17, 2010, 6:47 AM EST.
He won’t win, then he’ll become a vigilante. Then he’ll get explused himself.
Charles December 17, 2010, 6:50 AM EST.
How did that relate to Mike, or did it just strike him as a really good argument? o.O
Bane December 17, 2010, 6:51 AM EST.
for abbey’s metaphor:
lolwut December 17, 2010, 7:11 AM EST.
oh mike, your flat hairs in the last panel deserves its own name for its plateauness
velia December 17, 2010, 7:12 AM EST.
Well I agree with everything that Abbey’s saying, but he’s leaving out something that I find important called “Second Chances”, like the one that they gave Tess. If someone were to remind him that Tess used to be one of those bullies, would that possibly make a difference or is he just to convinced of this to realize?
…x3 I’m sorry. I’m clogging up the comments page with meaningless words. Love that face Sue makes in panel five. xD
TheGirlWhoNeverComments December 17, 2010, 7:14 AM EST.
*starts bawling after being touched by Abbey’s words* TT-TT *hands Mike a tissue*
chickbabe2081 December 17, 2010, 7:15 AM EST.
@Bane remember when Mike and the gang were bullied in that back alley?
MissCaitlyn December 17, 2010, 7:16 AM EST.
i just figure out that brown images in flashback is abbey. bad.
Bloodbath December 17, 2010, 7:18 AM EST.
…i oddly enough think Mike Looks like Lucy in this comic,
Ashton December 17, 2010, 7:19 AM EST.
i know taeshi is the artist but who is “suitcase” btw?
Bloodbath December 17, 2010, 7:22 AM EST.
Strange that he should be able to run for an electorial position while he’s emotionally comprimised (even though he denies that). Ironic that he states that people who put fear into the lives of others deserve no sympathy.
X-Saber December 17, 2010, 7:34 AM EST.
ABBEY!! ABBEY!! ABBEY!! Man this comic is my faverit so far, the panle to panle comentary was awesome and using Tesses situation as an example was key to drive it to a FRICKING STOP! with the bullying problem. Abbey for pres!!! <(spelling sucks in the mornings)>
p.s. Sorry Sue but you lost. Close call with the bubble there T. you almost crushed her.
cracktastic December 17, 2010, 7:37 AM EST.
ABBEY!! ABBEY!! ABBEY!! Man this comic is my faverit so far, the panle to panle comentary was awesome and using Tesses situation as an example was key to drive it to a FRICKING STOP! with the bullying problem. Abbey for pres!!! <(spelling sucks in the mornings)> \\r\\n\\r\\np.s. Sorry Sue but you lost. Close call with the bubble there T. you almost crushed her.
Oh but Tae, words are good. They explain things.
Moddy Auld December 17, 2010, 7:37 AM EST.
Suitcase is, as far as i’m aware, and i may be wrong as i aint been around long, but i think suitcase designs and works with the site and possibly the digitalisation of the comic?
ipodanonymous December 17, 2010, 7:40 AM EST.
Sorry about that just kinda sleepy from reading this one so many words so liitle action but I still love it
Grubey December 17, 2010, 8:05 AM EST.
Mike looks like a chick in that last panel. o.o
Pick Yer Poison December 17, 2010, 8:18 AM EST.
don’t worry about all the text in this comic Taeshi. that just means this is a plot comic. and like we all know, plot comics always lead into either drama or some type of comedy.
Big_D December 17, 2010, 8:28 AM EST.
Um, Abby you do realise that a lot of bullies have been bullied themselves? And some of that occurs out of school so they can’t be helped- it doesn’t make their actions right but Tess does have a point there.
Plus, what if a kid is simply being oversensitive? I can see expulsion maybe for physical bullying (well, actually more suspension there for a first offence in that area) but I mean I was an oversensitive little loser at school who couldn’t take a joke, and looking back, while the odd person could be considered a ‘bully’ or an utter ***** most weren’t in reality, like you know, when I grew the hell up.
And if they’d ended up excuding them all (including those who looking back weren’t bullies at all), I’d have eventually hated myself. Becaus it would have just been me being an oversensitive idiot. I mean granted I was 12-14 at the time- and a lot of people are idiots then but looking back 95% of the stuff I got upset over was just utter BS to get upset over.
Heather December 17, 2010, 8:30 AM EST.
I wonder what Mike is thinking about?
EpicLOLage December 17, 2010, 8:37 AM EST.
I disagree about this as much as I disagree with the electric chair- It is too goddamn extreme to start off with.
But yeah the attitude for bullying is lenient but immediate expulsion is like launching a nuke at a country because it was making fun of other countries. (France would be the first to go)
Lycinder-Rabbit December 17, 2010, 8:42 AM EST.
I’d say in-school suspension for two weeks as a flat rate, and add another week each time, until it’s the rest of the school year, and toss in no bus ride and a lack of school-provided lunches: It’s long enough the guy may doubt doing it again, and short enough to punish more, with some extra punishment thrown in.
Evan December 17, 2010, 8:49 AM EST.
Completely off topic: I just noticed on the Characters page that Stacy’s birthday is today. Happy birthday to Stacy! (Also, a belated happy birthday to Tess and Amaya!)
Mick G. December 17, 2010, 9:04 AM EST.
You know, when I read something, I usually give the characters their own voice actor in my head. I think I made a good choice giving Vic Mignogna to Abbey now.
prime_pm December 17, 2010, 9:07 AM EST.
Gosh people. can’t someone make a comic without a million different people being all “Imma let you finish but…” apparently not.
Kit December 17, 2010, 9:21 AM EST.
oh and prime_pm VIV MIGNOGNA IS A GOOD TAMAKI. NOT A GOOD DEATH SYTHE OR ZERO. AND HE WOULD NOT BE A GOOD ABBEY. something a little less mannly and a little more adoreable.
Kit December 17, 2010, 9:23 AM EST.
First off, this is an amazing page…love this!
Secondly…why do I see this paralleling the ongoing debate about airline security?….
Thirdly, Abbey’s solution seems so….lazy to me.
Iris December 17, 2010, 9:23 AM EST.
Is it me, or would Abbey make a great dictator? Or a Communist. Or both.
OH, and yes. He’s talking to you Mike.
Great pic, as always, Taeshi!
King December 17, 2010, 9:28 AM EST.
uuh…king, what does harsh punishment have to do with communism?
thatonedude December 17, 2010, 9:37 AM EST.
On a completely unrelated (probably) note, did Daisy catch a case of the mute lately? She hasn’t spoken at all, unless you count that <3 of hers.
TK December 17, 2010, 9:41 AM EST.
… am i reading to much into this or is was that some kind of allegory about the Rudy Juliane cadention ?
oddguy December 17, 2010, 10:10 AM EST.
heh… is it just me or does mike look like a girl in that last panel
dude December 17, 2010, 10:10 AM EST.
I…Totally…AGREE. seriously, sometimes i think the only solution to bullying IS harsh punishment. Also I notice Sue is breaking the fourth wall by holding up that speech bubble there:P
Billi December 17, 2010, 10:14 AM EST.
@TK: Maybe someone convinced her that girlfriends are meant to be seen and not heard. She’s basically acting like Abbey’s gofer right now, and is standing on that stage like eye-candy.
This probably warrants an investigation of her last few appearances, but I’m too lazy to do so. Also, there is most likely nothing sinister going on at all. Nothing at all. *sigh*
Who December 17, 2010, 10:26 AM EST.
dude has my vote
R-A-B-G December 17, 2010, 10:44 AM EST.
Abbys idea of imediate expulsion is extreme to say the least. He needs to chill and realize that he is brining his past into his argument, despite his reasoning. His sugestion is on the right track, but the way he wants it, even I would be expelled. What they need is a combination of my schools policy and his. Ours is, do bad stuff, detention. Keep it up, you’re in trouble. Byond that, you will find your self expelled. This varries as crime is more sever, more sever the punishment, less chances you get. What needs to be implemented here, is like mine but more strict. Not three strikes, but two. Now I can’t really pass jugement, because I haven’t seen sues side of the argument yet. When i do hear her half I’ll know who I want to side with.
HB December 17, 2010, 10:45 AM EST.
you could have added something that differentiated flashbacks from nowadays. I am not saying that I couldn’t notice they where flashbacks, I’m just saying that maybe some people may not notice at first, or the new readers. So, some sort of color change or something may help the viewer to differentiate, and may also make the comic look more stylish
That Guy December 17, 2010, 10:55 AM EST.
So, I think we have a semi-important overall to commenters here. Taeshi keeps things interesting yet again! And Abbey’s making a point. Let’s not forget Roger breaking Rachel’s brother’s arm, and yet, that same guy is already back to rule the bullies again. Abbey is being somewhat harsh, but so are the bullies he’s after. And they’re not out to help in the end. Abbey’s thought and considered, seeing the leniency of the current situation as insufficient to stop the high bullying problem. I like both sides of this debate now. They’re both trying and I can see why.
Hoheh December 17, 2010, 11:02 AM EST.
PREACH ‘EM, ABBEY, EF YES.
I completely agree with him. God, i love that character.
Stef December 17, 2010, 11:10 AM EST.
I fully agree with Abbey on this one, bullies don’t need to be shown mercy, only the door.
SpiritWolf15 December 17, 2010, 11:11 AM EST.
Abbey… you got a good arguement… but don’t squash a character with your words!
awesomesauce December 17, 2010, 11:12 AM EST.
Cool! Nice job Abbey!
GordanFreeman December 17, 2010, 11:16 AM EST.
Bullies don’t give mercy, so why should they get it?
Hoheh December 17, 2010, 11:24 AM EST.
I like how Sue looks in the third panel :3 even though in the 5th panel she’s getting crushed
Daisy looks cute in the fourth panel, too.
and in the last panel Mike looks… strange but anyway, lots of words~
P.S: it’s been awhile since I posted a comment here o_o
Coco The Rabbit December 17, 2010, 11:45 AM EST.
Oh…. man…… Abbey’s good. D= B-but Sue!!!
Aww, Tessa 3=
Skygaze December 17, 2010, 11:47 AM EST.
Why does people saying that Mike looks like a girl in last panel? I was watching and watchin and watching so carefully that panel and I disagree with that XP
And maaan, I don’t think that just to expulse the bullies is the solution because you’re letting them free to be bullies on streets too, military school? probably but remember that including these schools there’s a lot of bulling too TTnTT
the bully problem is a really delicated problem making it so hard to find the solution but I still have the hope that there’s a good solution that can help not only the innocent, the same bullies too, sometimes the bullies have problems making be bullies as a reflection of their situation…
Unfortunatelly not all parents know what really happen with their children, the same children prefer to hide that, some bullies are bullies because they’re insecure or receive abuses by part of their own family…
In the schools the superiors do nothing about bulling, I know that in my school the director just gave some “punishment” and sometimes talking with the parents of the bullies but it wasn’t enough, in the schoolbus the “responsible adults” do nothing to control the bully of the schoolbus he always was bulling all the kids.. including the kindergarden kids… a stupid fat 6th grade vs kindergarden.. I was on 7th grade so I stopped him.. [I was tiny in comparisition of that huge boy <__<]
I was the “bully of the bully” to calm him and let the innocent children free, including when he wasn’t go to school the children on the schoolbus were so happy that asked me to do some things and told them “that’s ok but be careful”.
Maan… I needed to be a bully to put in his place a bully… but the children were happy to see that I was protecting them…
ratinhadey December 17, 2010, 11:49 AM EST.
i think abbey’s drawn well,
and sue fourth panel!! well done!!
lynchy226 December 17, 2010, 11:50 AM EST.
i really wanna see that guy, i forget his name….did he have a name?? anyway, he was sayin stuff about tess ect. :’( i like HIMZ!!
LisaHatesKatie December 17, 2010, 12:20 PM EST.
Bravo Abbey Bravo
Zephyrion December 17, 2010, 12:35 PM EST.
and this is why i support gun right, and personally own multiple guns.
Snake December 17, 2010, 12:53 PM EST.
Again, i vote for abbey. Its funny, sue is like WTF?!, and mike has an epiphamy. So does Tess.
kitsonpaw December 17, 2010, 1:10 PM EST.
and they do work, used 3 times myself. poor *******, thought he could rob me in my own house………. i almost feel sorry for him, almost.
Snake December 17, 2010, 1:11 PM EST.
lol 5th panel Sue
Obsidian December 17, 2010, 1:12 PM EST.
For whatever reason I freaking love Mikie in that last panel. He looks different, yes but not in a negative way like everyone is suggesting to
Todd December 17, 2010, 1:28 PM EST.
Knight December 17, 2010, 1:32 PM EST.
I like in the last panels there we see just how it affects Tess and Mike. I think in the latter that it’s going to have him think more about what when on in the past with Lucy.
I wonder if he’ll be a bit more distant with her.
tsdrag December 17, 2010, 1:33 PM EST.
Abbey, I want you to have my babies.
Mookie December 17, 2010, 1:38 PM EST.
Trev the lurker here.
Wow…major text in this one. Abbeys face is so serious in the panel right after all the text, and his eyes changed color!
Poor Mike. This speech has probably nailed him, but i think its good he gets it through his head that what he did to Lucy is far off.
Trev December 17, 2010, 1:41 PM EST.
lol, my old middle school needs a class president like him!
wait, isn’t this the debate for secretary?… idk
4evr ninja December 17, 2010, 1:58 PM EST.
That’s right Abbey, talk dirty to us. UNF.
Emasaur December 17, 2010, 2:01 PM EST.
so…many…word…cant…hold -crched by abbeys words
wery12345 December 17, 2010, 2:03 PM EST.
Cata :3 December 17, 2010, 2:16 PM EST.
The 5th panel if pure win! Sue’s reaction to Abbey’s word bubble is great! One little thing, though. Shouldn’t it be “repaired” instead of “prepared?”
LostInPhilly89 December 17, 2010, 2:35 PM EST.
*sniff* Preach on, Abbey! Preach on! *sniffle* :,)
Cody December 17, 2010, 2:40 PM EST.
If Daisy gets any cuter and if Abbey becomes any more of a newly bamfed main character I may have to do something extreme.
Oh, maybe I should say something about the debate. Nah.
The Good Doctor December 17, 2010, 2:54 PM EST.
I wonder how Abbey’s policy would work. Would he start expelling bullies after the policy comes into place? Or would it be based on past crimes too?
If so, then bye bye Tess O-o
Naw it’ll probably be the bullies afterwards 8D
In which case, bye bye Jessica and Rachel.
aquati December 17, 2010, 2:55 PM EST.
I forgot to add, Daisy looks so cute <3
aquati December 17, 2010, 2:56 PM EST.
omg.amen Abraham,the window thing is also very true.
Eagammer1 December 17, 2010, 3:01 PM EST.
Okay. Windows aside, what if the person being pegged as a bully isn’t bullying at all? “I saw a tall cat with brown fur push that person down”. The wrong person gets expelled. Tough beans, right? And how can you monitor verbal abuse? If one person is talking about someone behind that person’s back, you are going to expel that person? Who is going to tell you? That person’s friends? Last time I checked, teens are pretty careful about what they say, and to who they say it. What if the person is just playing around, but the other person takes it the wrong way? That person can’t get an education anymore. When you are so severe with a policy like
Taseli December 17, 2010, 3:07 PM EST.
Damn, you go Abbey!
Draixen December 17, 2010, 3:20 PM EST.
@ Taseli= and that is why while many high schools take the instant expulsion route, it rarely, if ever works. because what qualifies as bullying isn’t so cut and dry, and expulsion is a very serious thing, you have to be ABSOLUTELY sure you’re expelling the right person. to the point where since there is little solid proof that said person is a bully, no one gets expelled.
Sean December 17, 2010, 3:23 PM EST.
ALso, why does Mike suddenly looks like someone ****** in his cheerios after this bully speech? He looks like a guilty man, but when has Mike ever been a bully?
Sean December 17, 2010, 3:25 PM EST.
Yes…lets just put the bullies back at home where their problems probably started…sigh…
Iris December 17, 2010, 3:30 PM EST.
From my own guess, it’d be his harsh words towards his friends on the topic of Sandy, and towards Lucy on the same(Or similar, considering her love towards Mikie interferes with his love for Sandy) subject.
“It’s never acceptable to be violent towards the innocent”
The innocent(Or, mostly, at least, from my mind) would be Lucy in this case.
Frair December 17, 2010, 3:32 PM EST.
Taseli: That is how I feel too. Where does one draw the line?…What are we going to call bullying?…All it does is pass the problem to someone/something else and it just doesn’t get resolved….
Iris December 17, 2010, 3:32 PM EST.
@ Titanium Dragon: Nope! I’m an architecture student whose spoken to a lot of people, and I have to say Abbey is spot-on.
Sure, the windows might get broken because of crime, but if they’re not fixed, it sends a message to the community around it that says “nobody cares about this building.” More vandals will come, emboldened and unafraid of repercussions. Most likely, they’d be just kids, boredly throwing rocks at the windows. Once the windows are gone, older vandals and thieves will see it and go inside, destroying the insides and stealing what is valuable.
That’s how it works, once there is one crack, it needs to be taken care of right away otherwise you’ll soon have to replace ALL the windows. The broken windows ESCALATE crime, which is exactly Abbey’s point.
Varanus December 17, 2010, 3:36 PM EST.
If Abbey gets in, then Lucy will be expelled within around 30 seconds. She’s spent most of the plot thumping people.
Actually, given Mike’s usual response to such, he’ll probably get expelled a few seconds later. Ah, brutal fights. It’s how we know it’s twoo luv.
Yappy December 17, 2010, 3:48 PM EST.
Anyone else notice Sue getting crushed by Abbey’s Speech Bubble?
EDIT: And it’s mentioned in the very first post.
Carcharocles December 17, 2010, 3:55 PM EST.
mike looks like a girl….
Porcipine December 17, 2010, 4:05 PM EST.
@Aethrys: That’s legal?
Hoheh December 17, 2010, 4:20 PM EST.
This whole chapter will be wasted if there isn’t at least one “OBJECTION!”
techdude300 December 17, 2010, 4:38 PM EST.
Mike’s looking pretty feminine.
Hannibal December 17, 2010, 4:46 PM EST.
Mike is so inspired by the speech he becomes genderbent and marries Abbey
Senpai December 17, 2010, 5:05 PM EST.
mike looks like a female
weeeee! December 17, 2010, 5:09 PM EST.
Sue is getting crushed
we dont need no education!
Pink Floyd - The Happiest Days Of Our Lives / Another Brick In The Wall (part 2)
(We Dont Need No Education)
rocknrollDaVE December 17, 2010, 5:14 PM EST.
WORDS: they CAN kill you
kiala December 17, 2010, 5:20 PM EST.
If Abbey wins, I guess Lucy better let up on the ol’ kicking people in the face, huh?
Neena December 17, 2010, 5:31 PM EST.
Everybody beats me to typing a funny comment.
VenEastman December 17, 2010, 5:34 PM EST.
Sound argument from Abbey. As expected
TheNameless December 17, 2010, 5:42 PM EST.
Abbey, that is a one sided, blindfolded truth.
Lycan December 17, 2010, 5:46 PM EST.
Bambalooza December 17, 2010, 6:18 PM EST.
Uh-oh; Lucy must be freaking out right about now.
Saiyza December 17, 2010, 6:30 PM EST.
Oh, and comic. Yeh, comic is good. :3c
Lurkah December 17, 2010, 6:40 PM EST.
And no mention of Cesare Beccaria was mentioned.
“Corporal punishment is wrong, the amount of maltreatment should be met with the adequate amount of punishment.”
Machiavelli, on the other hand, says:
If you do not be strict with a nation, then all hell will break loose. Be strict, but leave a few good treatments to whatever people need it. For all we know, people only remember the good aspects of living life, rather than remembering the rest of their lives being in turmoil.
If they were ever to meet, then all I can say, in relation to the comic, Sue would most likely be Beccaria, while Abbey is Machiavelli. Both want to eradicate all of which could have a simple solution, yet it would not be attainable unless other people were open to realize that not just one solution can solve all problems, as is how not only one government would be suitable to all nations.
(Thank you, AP European classes.)
Then again, people would always see things from different angles, as how all people are made to be different. It’s no less than just saying what others would object to immediately.
Sycal December 17, 2010, 6:40 PM EST.
This Comic is so awesome. my birthday is coming up in december 26. These last few months have been the best thanx to your comic. this is the biggest and best comic ever. i added this websites link to my youtube channel if you dont mind
shadowfir December 17, 2010, 6:51 PM EST.
2 Points to make:
1) Harshness of sentence: I don’t think that being nasty to someone once counts as bullying, seems more like a random lash out at anonymous. Its only if someone is singling you out and repeatedly being nasty to you that it really becomes bullying, so first incident’s wouldn’t get you expelled, though maybe i’m interpreting it wrong.
2) Incorrect sentencing: When someone was bullied at my school, a teacher gave the victim access to the registration system (complete with everyone’s school photo on file) so that they could search through and show the teacher who had hurt them. Oh and by the way Taseli if they did **** up and expel the wrong person it’s not like they cant un-expel him.
I second Mookie’s comment. HAVE MY BABIES ABBEY!
Anialator December 17, 2010, 6:56 PM EST.
GAH. POLITICAL COMMENTS ARE POLITICAL.
Baeleox December 17, 2010, 7:12 PM EST.
Even though i kind of support him (not really) it looks like the majority of people in the school are bullies so that might not be in the schools favor
WTF December 17, 2010, 7:12 PM EST.
Awesome speech Abbey. I am rooting for him.
And as always.
SANDY IS EEEEEVVIIILLLLL!!!
AflacMan13 December 17, 2010, 7:17 PM EST.
Mike looks like a girl =^.^=
HOMAHGOSH MAH NAMES STEVE December 17, 2010, 7:17 PM EST.
Kikikiki December 17, 2010, 7:54 PM EST.
If anyone butthurts you EXPEL THEM :B This is both fair and valid?
God damn he is a weepy sonnabitch. Seriously. Imagine a society where not a single feeling would be hurt? Nothing would get done, nobody would improve as a person, they’d just be self-absorbed bubbles of vanity and failure.
LordWaffles December 17, 2010, 8:12 PM EST.
LordWaffles; Nice straw man fallacy there. Not sure if you’re misguided or just an obvious troll.
Anyway, I mostly support Abbey’s position, but immediate expulsion won’t really solve many problems. Personally I’d go with a formal warning, suspend them if they don’t listen, THEN expel them if they still fail get their act together.
Of course, with every system there are problems; some people might abuse the system and act like someone is bullying them when they’re not. If they can get some friends on their side, then the innocent person could be expelled for no reason. This could be curbed by installing security cameras in the halls and other communal areas, but I’m not sure if the school would be willing to foot the bill or go through the security camera footage every time to verify if something did or didn’t take place.
Abbey, I know you mean well, but your proposal seems far too easy to exploit.
Blaze December 17, 2010, 8:30 PM EST.
TLDR, sorry Abbey
MJ December 17, 2010, 8:37 PM EST.
Hey, that’s the broken window theory! I’ve heard that before! And abbey is not kidding….
Hipster December 17, 2010, 8:42 PM EST.
Mike in the last panel looks like how I draw 0____0 whooooaaoaaooaa
Huskei December 17, 2010, 8:43 PM EST.
This would work in some case but it’s like cutting a weed at the stem.Yeah it’s gone but in a while another one will grow into its place.
Guest December 17, 2010, 8:51 PM EST.
@Blaze He has a different opinion to you so he is trolling?
He is actually right without conflict, humans wouldn’t have evolved and adapted as far as we have. The biggest technological achievements were due to war, sorry to say man but LordWaffles is right.
Lycinder-Rabbit December 17, 2010, 8:54 PM EST.
Wait…Sue holding up a speech bubble because someone is going off on one?
Thats a reference to a manga I have read but the name escapes me…
(Oh and the reason Mike looks so feminine is because Taeshi gave him eyeliner, I mean those lines are so thick around the eyes.)
Lycinder-Rabbit December 17, 2010, 8:56 PM EST.
aww! poor sue! abbys got this whole speech prepared and shes getting crushed!
love mike in the last panel! hes like WOOOAAAHHH!
lol December 17, 2010, 9:24 PM EST.
So if I’m suspected of bullying, I get expelled, just like that?!?
I’m rooting for Sue. Go Sue go!
... December 17, 2010, 9:37 PM EST.
I’m getting a faint whiff of upcoming drama involving some troubled pasts……Smells like making up with a certain snowy feline and *sniff* a conflict with someone’s old ex perhaps :|?
Phlea December 17, 2010, 9:54 PM EST.
so is mike coming to grips with the fact he did somthing rong?
kylus December 17, 2010, 10:02 PM EST.
Luls Daisy. <3
Heireau December 17, 2010, 10:03 PM EST.
Heh, Sue’s getting crushed by Abbey’s giant speech bubble in panel 5.
Blue-Eyed Wolf December 17, 2010, 10:04 PM EST.
Abby reminds me of the Basatins from the TwoKinds Comic.
Beltbuster December 17, 2010, 10:13 PM EST.
Woah you’re right! How did I miss that?
Hoheh December 17, 2010, 10:13 PM EST.
I can’t decide where there are more walls of text, in the comic or in the comments. Wow you guys have a lot to say ( I’m saying that in an admiring way in case anyone takes that the wrong way)
dotdotdot? December 17, 2010, 10:19 PM EST.
WAIT IS IT SUPPOSED TO PREPARED OR REPAIRED?? it seems like it needs to be repared not prepare just saying so read my comment
This is in the window analogy
Ps yay go comic
DeadspaceII December 17, 2010, 10:22 PM EST.
Sure is logical fallacies and opinions in here. But really, nobody expected any less of our token White Knight. Get off your high horse, Abbie.
The Color Herple December 17, 2010, 10:26 PM EST.
There’s Mike’s guilty face.
Maishul December 17, 2010, 10:43 PM EST.
all i hear is “Blah blah blah blah”…
Raxki December 17, 2010, 11:14 PM EST.
why would mike b guilty?
awsome December 17, 2010, 11:39 PM EST.
Abby, you are wrong you know. Your perfect world is unimaginable. What you recommend is a environment in which the student will be constantly looking over their shoulder, afraid that even the slightest bit of horseplay will be punished with horrible consequences. Those who bully should not be rewarded though either. Problem cases should be monitored. But they must also be helped. They are sick, infested with the notation that hurting others will give them power they never had, attention they never received. They need to be cured of this disease. The School should report cases to Parents and only remove if problem persists heavily. SO I must respectfully disagree with you on this case.
Spazix December 17, 2010, 11:57 PM EST.
i think mike was remembering the time when abby got violent to him and then he like punched him or something way back in freshmen year
i thiinnk. idk i dont relly rember
Aly December 18, 2010, 12:23 AM EST.
Um. He didn’t get that violent with Abbey. He was about to, then Molly made him rethink it. And probably feel hella-guilty.
Hoheh December 18, 2010, 1:41 AM EST.
Oh Mike, you look like duch a girl
Sue, you are getting squashed by words. <3
And Abbey, dear dear Abbey, I completly agree. Bullying is a matter that needs to be taken into action. All around, kids are getting bullied each day. Trust me, I’ve experienced it. I hate how they can get away with whatever they want.
Bot oh well, bed teim. I’ll continue my post some other time. =3=
Sky-Chan December 18, 2010, 1:50 AM EST.
What I noticed is how Abby stated that ANY visitor can come in and bully a student. And with the flashback panel of Tess being strangled I’m inferring that it is an alumnus that walked into the school to get revenge. And who is to say an adult can come and do the same thing? Or for someone to bring a weapon?
That is a serious problem bigger than bullying alone and out of the hands of a student government. It is the school’s and adult’s responsibility. Yet it is obvious that a school run under the sort of system he proposes will not be any happier than it is now; it will create the new problem of misuse of the expulsions and make the bullies all the more discrete or dominate. School’s aren’t that good with no tolerance policies. However, I agree that it is a “…harsh, yet effective method.”
You really do feel for the guy. Not only has he experienced this personally on both sides of the situation, but he also sees someone he cares about bullied on what seems to be a daily basis. Anyone would get sick of it, fast. So it isn’t shocking that he feels this way, in fact it’s kinda normal. But he definitely brought his emotions into play, because come on, he’s practically calling Tess an “innocent”, which she isn’t.
I think that the school will either be polarized with this approach because it takes at least two people for there to be bullying, or completely against it considering all the seniors and juniors hate Tess, and the others seeing it as an extreme measure. That said I do hope Sue is able to counter that with a more realistic approach, so I’m anticipating what comes next!
Also, how the heck did Tess end up being the person to ask about this question? Seems really out of place that someone so intensely disliked by the school would have anything to do with a public appearance or with the policy regarding her problem. It was the very first question as well, which is really suspicious.
Oh my I didn’t mean to write a WoT…
The problem is bigger than bullying.
The problem won’t be solved with extreme measures.
The extreme attitude was forged by constant exposure to bullying.
Sue better counter with something more realistic.
Why in the world is Tess the debate coordinator?
Zylar December 18, 2010, 1:50 AM EST.
Also, according to the previous strip, since it was a “reported increase in school bullying” I wonder if that means the school is aware of the problem. But if so, why turn to the students for a solution?
Bah, I need to go sleep…
Zylar December 18, 2010, 2:07 AM EST.
holy crap zylar…..
lolsup December 18, 2010, 2:12 AM EST.
Man, in my school there wasn’t any bullying. In fact I always am encountering people who had to deal with things in High School that I don’t know of anyone in my school encountering. Its weird. I’m thankful that I didn’t have to deal with that ****, but sometimes I feel like I might have missed something, like I got off too easy and can’t empathize as well with others.
Oh well, I have beer.
The Master December 18, 2010, 2:22 AM EST.
Define innocent. Tess is an ex-bully who’s trying to make up for it. Contrast the load of bullies who still do it, or do it even more violllently. Innocent in this case means more not out to hurt anyone. You can report all you want, but never fixing the problem is still never fixing the problem. Abbey is out to make it clear: Bully if you want, but you will be expelled for it. Don’t like it? Don’t bully. Basically, he’s trying to draw a line that they have to cross knowingly. And in doing so, they can’t whine about not knowing. It’s extreme, but it has a fair chance of changing the situation. Not just saying bullying is too high and idly complaining. Making it a fight against the problem. Putting the ball in their court and calling it when they break the rules. Long post is long now.
Hoheh December 18, 2010, 2:25 AM EST.
Cute daisy is cute ^-^
Maishul December 18, 2010, 3:10 AM EST.
talking, talking, more talking and then a compliment to daisy followed by an Asian Emoticon.
I love reading comments <3
Anton December 18, 2010, 3:55 AM EST.
Sue on panel 5 ftw
TheBlueDragoness December 18, 2010, 3:58 AM EST.
YOU’RE MEAN ABBY. I DISLIKE YOU NOW.
Buwaro76 December 18, 2010, 4:23 AM EST.
Oh, Sue, you just lost this one. Abbey is higher in the pecking order because he wears less clothing than Sue. Look at those lowly bullies, they’re all wearing shirts.
Dude December 18, 2010, 5:23 AM EST.
I agree with Abby, but having a bully expulsion policy won’t help if it’s not enforced. Bullies are rampant at my high school even though they are supposed to be suspended and eventually expelled, but the teachers instead of punishing look the other way. Also, even though there is a LOT of text this page, I like the imagery a lot.
CatTrooper December 18, 2010, 5:23 AM EST.
Ooh, that is right. We still have the old emoticons here. ^_^
ILB December 18, 2010, 6:50 AM EST.
Wow. I’ve been trying to ignore it, but Abbey has been getting consistently crazier and crazier throughout this whole comic. This is just too much. He’s being completely ridiculous and unrealistic here. First of all, how do you even define bullying? Do you expel everyone that calls someone a name? What if two kids that don’t like each other bump into each other in the hallway and each claim the other did it on purpose? Do you just expel them both? What if a kid is being relentlessly picked on, but only verbally, and ends of throwing a punch at one of his tormentors? Do you expel the kid who was being picked on? Then you have to take into consideration how much pressure there would be to not report bullying, because a lot of kids would find such a policy to be completely unreasonable. Kids could be bullied by a more popular kid and find themselves in a situation where they would be completely shunned and possibly even bullied worse if they reported the bullying.
A zero tolerance policy on bullying is nice talk if you don’t have to implement it, but despite what Abbey claims here it simply doesn’t work. It never has and it never will.
Yozul December 18, 2010, 6:55 AM EST.
Panel 6 ABBEY’S SERIOUS FACE!
Sandvich December 18, 2010, 7:18 AM EST.
nvm that other comment, Abbey always has a serious face…
@Lycinder-Rabbit Yes, without conflict the human race would not have arrived to this point. My problem was not that he had a ‘different opinion’ to me; he oversimplified and/or removed from context Abbey’s argument to mean ‘“If anyone butthurts you EXPEL THEM :B This is both fair and valid?”.
I do not feel that this was the argument Abbey was trying to make. and he was just turning Abbey’s argument into an easier to attack ‘straw man’ argument. However, at the same time, I do see how it could devolve into what he mentioned, as outlined by what I (and others) wrote earlier about how the system could be abused.
Also at no point did I disagree that conflict was important to the human race and is necessary for our advancement (I for one greatly value criticism - itself a misunderstood term by many as criticism need not be negative - because it can be very helpful for improvement), but I don’t regard bullying as a form of conflict that anything good could come of; it’s a form of abuse.
Bullying is not just ‘a few hurt feelings’ or something that just starts up and then stops a little way down the line. It is long term, and bullying has in some cases driven people to suicide because it just got that bad. There is in fact some controversy if ‘Bullycide’ should be counted as murder. I do personally, but the law has yet to as far as I know.
But, I digress.
I felt that LordWaffles was presenting bullying as equivelant to petty arguments or other minor things. That is what I was disagreeing with. If I was mistaken then I apologise, but looking at his/her post again, I really don’t think I was.
Then again, all I said in response to him/her was “Nice straw man fallacy there. Not sure if you’re misguided or just an obvious troll.” so in hindsight I can understand how other people would think I was possibly calling him/her a troll for no good reason, so I’ll apologise for that.
TLDR; I feel you have misunderstood my position and I’m sorry for not making it clearer.
Blaze December 18, 2010, 7:53 AM EST.
tell it like it is abbey.
o December 18, 2010, 8:02 AM EST.
Cutest Maishul ever *w*
Snerky December 18, 2010, 8:04 AM EST.
Let’s face it: kids (no matter what age) are just mean to each other. It sucks I know…and sometimes it produces really bad consequences (e.g. socially akward when ones gets older, inability to trust). In actuality…this can be a good thing. IF children are raised so that there is zero conflict….what will they do when they face the real world? Adults can be quite cold and cynical…and some co-workers can be down-right mean and hard to work with but guess what? You just might have to find a way to deal with them anyway. If your boss is being an *******, he isn’t going to get expelled for it.
I think the solution is to not only take better measures on how to deal with bullys (i.e. don’t expell them right away but assess what the hell is going on first), but to also help kids getting bullied deal with it. Does anyone remember the DEBUG system (as stupid as it sounded to most kids)? Do they even use that anymore? It actually worked for me a couple time…even though most kids got made fun of for using it (ironic)…but honestly you just have to accept those consequences because ultimately we want kids to go strong and healthy and be able to stand up for themselves in a non-bullying fashion.
Iris December 18, 2010, 8:21 AM EST.
I’m only going to say one thing.
Either everyone has the right to an education, or nobody does.
The Bromeister December 18, 2010, 8:52 AM EST.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand abbey wins
Lakie December 18, 2010, 9:05 AM EST.
mike looks like a little girl. o.o
Poppy Gum Bear December 18, 2010, 9:55 AM EST.
Rachel December 18, 2010, 10:51 AM EST.
All hail Iron Fist Abby!
Reader December 18, 2010, 10:53 AM EST.
*High-fives Reader* HELL YEAH!!!
Apoc December 18, 2010, 11:30 AM EST.
If only the school directors were half as smart as Abbey.
Mind December 18, 2010, 11:52 AM EST.
Oh Abbey, if you were debating anyone who is actually good at Speech and Debate, your argument would be torn apart. You also didn’t really disprove Sue’s point. You are so emotional invested that you went to the extreme (albeit with a long speech) when it has been proven time and time again that those types of extremes don’t work.
I actually believe Sue is a better candidate for the school, but she really needs to make her views more apparent, and she needs to make a good counter argument here.
(On the other hand, the Gym looks pretty empty. That’s how little kids care about school politics. Much like real politics, it will just come down to who is more popular.)
Kindren December 18, 2010, 11:55 AM EST.
I agree with Abby, and that should apply outside the school (as in ‘teh law’)
A thief? DEATH PENALTY, no excuses.
i’ts the same principle basically
Law enforcer December 18, 2010, 11:56 AM EST.
Abbey, the Paragon!!!!!
WooooHooooo >o< YEAH!
Kyle December 18, 2010, 12:00 PM EST.
oh… oh my god…. politics? POLOTICS?!?! AND BCB?!?!?! NOOOOO! NOOOO! ITS MADNESSSS! MAAAADDDNNNEEESSSSSS!!! -chucks computer out window-
Mira December 18, 2010, 12:39 PM EST.
*Catches Mira’s computer* THANKS!!!
Apoc December 18, 2010, 12:54 PM EST.
Actually abbey’s argument is pretty sound. Except for the windows thing. If you leave the bullies alone then they’ll just keep at it. Expell the ******* (thats what they do in my school now). We dont have as many bullying or fights anymore. it doesn’t solve it completely but it does help.
ho-hum December 18, 2010, 1:07 PM EST.
Hey!!! I want it!!! *Take down Apoc*
BradNeko14 December 18, 2010, 1:09 PM EST.
*Charges BradNeko and Apoc*
JimmyP424 December 18, 2010, 3:53 PM EST.
lol it raining free computers
ima weird December 18, 2010, 4:11 PM EST.
all i see is brock in panel 4…
MissCaitlyn December 18, 2010, 7:04 PM EST.
What did you mean when you said “If the windows are not prepared”? If the windows are not prepared for vandals then they will be broken?
Zavala December 18, 2010, 7:43 PM EST.
Arbitrary December 18, 2010, 10:14 PM EST.
yeah i had same comment above
lolwut December 18, 2010, 10:38 PM EST.
I second Abbey’s notion… No I’m not kidding…
Rober2 December 18, 2010, 10:42 PM EST.
Abbey seems to be bordering on becoming a bit of a bully himself.
His example is wacky and completely untrue, even if it did relate to the subject.
Sue would be well to point out that harsh penalties actually don’t necessarily solve much of anything. The death penalty, which must be considered the ultimate punishment, fails to lower crime.
At any rate, if the first incident results in an expulsion, it would leave false charges a rather potent weapon. Alternately, no teacher would want to enforce such a draconic rule, so they overlook it. Neither is satisfactory.
Indeed, Abbey acts as if if was all or nothing - the only possible penalty is the harshest one the school can administer. It seems more sensible to save expulsion for a second offense if nothing else, and merely kick the supposed bully home for a week or so the first time around. Of course, a significantly serious offense would result in expulsion anyway.
…And geeze, that example was positively horrid.
Tzenker December 18, 2010, 10:51 PM EST.
Just a random observation, didn’t Tess have a like, choker collar in the other page now it’s beaded? o_o
Rachel Vang December 18, 2010, 11:25 PM EST.
Ah daisy the perfect assistant
Voice December 18, 2010, 11:36 PM EST.
She is the cutest one too! ^^
James December 19, 2010, 12:23 AM EST.
IRRELEVANT COMMENT GO
Lucy and Mike remind me of Nabi and Doki. lol pink bow and scarf
Just wanted to say that.
But good /lord/ is Abbey going deep into this debate. And Sue’s getting cuter and more relevant. (BACKSTORY GO)
Rorona December 19, 2010, 3:25 AM EST.
Eeeeeew, he’s using the Slippery Slope “Argument” with that window situation. I feel dirty just reading it.
Sue could use Teresa as an example, but Abbey could easily demand a larger sample size.
Come on Sue, his logic is flawed. That means there’s an easy counter in it somewhere. Shove that word balloon out of the way and show him who’s the boss of wordswordswords! >(
Davtwan December 19, 2010, 3:40 AM EST.
Sue, get ready to lose
anyway, I love your speech…
Maybe I will do that speech in my school LoL~
BCB fan December 19, 2010, 4:39 AM EST.
Abbey reminds me of Brock in panel 4.
Xenni December 19, 2010, 5:43 AM EST.
Actually, I disagree with Abbey. Expulsion is not the answer to bullying, because in most cases, bullies do not care about school and they do not care if they are no longer in it. In school suspension on the other hand… that would force them to stay in school but for that they would get absolutely no credit for the days they are in ISS.
I’m still going to back Sue, even though she might somehow… lose… I’m not fond of going that route to solve the problem.
Bullies need help and they need to stay in school. They should not get removed from the school because that only makes the problem worse, even in the slightest bit.
I do like how Abbey is making his approach though. He has the right idea, but wrong type of punishment. The speech was excellent :3
Chris December 19, 2010, 8:21 AM EST.
First Time commenting but this subject is an excellent item to discuss,
Abbey approach is excellent with setting strict guidelines but expulsion isn’t resolving the problem it’s just removing the problem, Because bullying is a behavior issue that stems from the home. Suspension that requires consoling for the student which also requires the parents to be involved addresses the problem from a 360 degree perspective as your addressing the problem from all angles.
If Sue wish’s to counter she’ll need to directive in picking apart his speech with directive questions which will require him to re-think his previous statement, Once your accomplish this then she can start her own speech providing her solution to give the students her perspective vs his. Pro’s vs Con’s of each directive and of course making her’s sound better.
Overall excellent comic and subject.
Chris R. December 19, 2010, 8:51 AM EST.
Another thing that kind of bothers me about abbey’s little speech is that I see no fact in his argument…I mean sure there is probably truth to his little story bout where are the facts? Give me some numbers/stats/observations/data /whatever and I’ll trust your competence to be a leader
Iris December 19, 2010, 9:49 AM EST.
i hate politics…. what i think instead of expulsion you should just crack open they’re asses with a paddle, i know i would
Snake December 19, 2010, 9:51 AM EST.
He makes an excellent point. Yeah maybe a bit harsh but still.
And I see nothing wrong with Mike : o
mrsaturn123 December 19, 2010, 11:11 AM EST.
i agree completely with abby on this, because bullys are the cause for a lot of problems in most schools. bullying is usually the only thing the have and the only thing they go to school for, and removing them would cause them to have nothing they want to do, and they would probebly take another look at their lives.
poor mike, i bet he’s thinking about lucy… and tess…
saturn December 19, 2010, 11:22 AM EST.
I have to disagree with Saturn. Most bullies do not go to school specifically to bully. They are kind of forced by the law to attend school, and as long as they are there they decide to go for some power. If we expelled them they would look for power in other places, i.e. in street gangs, and we do not need more teenagers on the streets smoking weed and mugging civilians. The answer is to either eliminate or satisfy the bully’s lust for power in a nondestructive way.
Also, who’s the creeper in Panel 7 who’s making Tess cry? I mean, really?
Sylph of Clockwork December 19, 2010, 12:25 PM EST.
Thinking of that last speech bubble, i can’t help but have Lucy come to mind. She’s not completely violent, but she has a temper xD
Raylene December 19, 2010, 1:02 PM EST.
i lol’d at sue being crushed by the speech bubble in panel 5
ds9x3tg December 19, 2010, 2:15 PM EST.
Abbey is such a smart ***
Note to Taeshi: i read BCB on my touch screen phone, and its kinda a pain in the *** to scroll down HUNDREDS of comments just to type 1 comment, so can u do the same to the mobile site like u do in the main site. its that thing where it says click to see 300 comments. thanks!
ad December 19, 2010, 2:21 PM EST.
Abbey is such a smart ***\\r\\n\\r\\nNote to Taeshi: i read BCB on my touch screen phone, and its kinda a pain in the *** to scroll down HUNDREDS of comments just to type 1 comment, so can u do the same to the mobile site like u do in the main site. its that thing where it says click to see 300 comments. thanks!
Mike looks like a girl in the last panel.
IDNHO December 19, 2010, 2:22 PM EST.
I hope Sue doesn’t go strawman.
Icsifil December 19, 2010, 2:41 PM EST.
Is the guy in the 8th panel the one who drugged mike two chapters ago?
CAC assassin December 19, 2010, 3:06 PM EST.
@Blaze you wound me. My point was in more detailed terms:
Humanity exists based on overcoming adversity and opposition.
People don’t tend to get stronger without some strenuous activity which breaks down the muscle to regrow and renew itself stronger, able to deal with the strain you put it through. Achieving power through beating the odds is biological in nature.
Furthermore if you want more of an applicable background you could possibly take playing a game. You rarely get better if you just gigastomp it over and over, but if you lose, you’ll practice much harder to get better.
In a larger scale societal reference, take the city of Rome. No matter how many times it burned/got sacked/bad emperor, it’d always come back with higher walls
LordWaffles December 19, 2010, 4:27 PM EST.
Abbey = Fascist
**** JUST GOT REAL !!
Faustii_Goethe December 19, 2010, 4:27 PM EST.
Cute Daisy is cute :3
Ken December 19, 2010, 6:59 PM EST.
My thoughts exactly! I love Daisy so much! She’s the cutest character ever!
Bowdensaft December 19, 2010, 7:06 PM EST.
…ohhhh….the guy abbey was talking to looks familiar….oh right! he’s the one that threw the ball at tess and then MUCH later he apologized…makes sense
TalonStripe December 19, 2010, 7:18 PM EST.
How would expulsing students keep any one who just comes in the school from wreaking havoc?
The Wise Elizah December 19, 2010, 7:18 PM EST.
@The Wise Elizah: The question was about school bullying. Abbie is implying that because the authorities aren’t strict with the students, other people feel they can start **** without consequences. With expulsion, Abbie believes that the school will have a more strict atmosphere, deterring other people from wreaking havix.
cha0s December 19, 2010, 7:36 PM EST.
You know, his theroy actually kinda does make sense…..If people see what other people have done, then they’ll be pressured to do it as well. One person breaking one window CAN turn into several people breaking several windows.
chickbabe2081 December 19, 2010, 7:54 PM EST.
Does Mike finally realize that being a jerk to Lucy isn’t helping anything at all, especially his relationship with Sandy? That he doesn’t have to be a jerk to show to himself and everyone else that he is uninterested in Lucy with regards to dating, and can simply be friends Best friends, hopefully.
CJTocean December 19, 2010, 7:57 PM EST.
I had to go back and read over the old chapters, trying to figure out who those guys in the flashbacks were. I figured it out.
….But it made me remember how much I missed Abbey’s long ears. Sadface.
Spot December 19, 2010, 7:58 PM EST.
@Taeshi: I was referring to the lineart. It sort of looks like you accidentally drew it short and had to add little segments onto it.
Again, not trying to insult. Just checking.
Male Snorunt December 19, 2010, 8:34 PM EST.
I disagree with Abbey on this issue… How does it make sense that cracking down on bullying with extremely strict punishment would be logical… You would end up with a school of 30 students. Not to mention the inherent possibilities of someone abusing the punishment system to get someone they don’t like expelled.
Miniman889 December 19, 2010, 9:39 PM EST.
Haha, Sue’s being crushed by the speech bubble Oh man Mike’s realizing something! :o
Caeleighh December 19, 2010, 9:49 PM EST.
‘sticks ands stones may break my bones but words will freakin crush me’
IpodAnonymous December 19, 2010, 10:20 PM EST.
When I saw the RSS link and it’s picture, my first thought was Sue seeing a headline and spitting out all her coffee. Please make it so, Taeshi.
GoodBurger December 19, 2010, 10:54 PM EST.
Well actually, think of it like a geometrically repeating number sequence. It starts of with just one or two events or occasions, but left alone, and said sequence is allowed to continue, it multiplies, and multiplies, and multiplies until its quite the number to deal with
for more info on geo//numbers, check out wiki.
Also…after finally catching up from page one a day ago….my heart hurts :-(
Gone with the Wind December 19, 2010, 11:04 PM EST.
You have contracted a sound based Advertisement.
ObscureDragom December 19, 2010, 11:08 PM EST.
where’s the next page??
cutel09 December 19, 2010, 11:13 PM EST.
its not monday yet so chill bruh
lolwut December 19, 2010, 11:15 PM EST.
Panel 4: Abbey’s eyes look like Brock/Takeshi’s…. That’s not a bad thing, by the way.
Mick G. December 19, 2010, 11:21 PM EST.
I think that’s used to show more expression in his seriousness, although I think Brock always looks like that because his eyes are more wide than tall naturally.
James December 19, 2010, 11:24 PM EST.
Abby is a high schooler and therefore, his policies and opinions are bound to be flawed— he’s still a kid, same as the rest. Plus, he’s had personal experience with abuse and as such is most likely letting his feelings on the matter color his policy.
Tess, once again, is running the debates for the Sophomores, not the people she bullied, which would be the juniors and seniors. So, in case you missed Taeshi explaining that last page, she’s not among the people who hate her— each grade gets their own separate elections!
It’s great that people have such passionate opinions about bullying— it’s definitely something that should be talked more about. That being said, I don’t think Abby’s stance= the artist’s stance, at least not absolutely. Keep in mind that these are her character’s opinions, not necessarily her own.
Lily (the real one!!!) December 19, 2010, 11:36 PM EST.
And David is running for Communism?
Not that I disagree with Abbey, of course.
GoodBurger December 19, 2010, 11:43 PM EST.
Mike looks quite feminine in the last panel.
Or maybe it’s just me.
johnnyBUZZ December 19, 2010, 11:44 PM EST.
he blushes cause he beat up abbey one time i think or yyeah he is just a little bitch like usual, sammiches…
lolwut December 19, 2010, 11:46 PM EST.
stolen accounts suck
Mick G. December 19, 2010, 11:53 PM EST.
Omg new page is a few seconds late!!! It doesn’t matter though because I can wait for something this good ;D
DeadspaceII December 19, 2010, 11:59 PM EST.
That is alot of words right there, I tell you what.
RainbowChiwawa December 20, 2010, 1:04 AM EST.
I made a whole bunch of more words in the next page’s comments, and a summary of that four paragraph comment.
Jeez my hands hurt….
James December 20, 2010, 1:54 AM EST.
Bro, take it easy on the paragraphs
RainbowChiwawa December 20, 2010, 3:04 AM EST.
It seems someone used the same pseudonym as me in a recent post on this page stating that stolen accounts suck. Just for my own sanity, is it possible for someone to hack my computer using the cookies from this site?
Mick G. December 21, 2010, 11:11 AM EST.
Wait didn’t they try this **** on youtube with copyright infringement?
So everybody hates the system, the system is abused to spite people you don’t like, and it’s more common than ever to find pirated stuff on the website.
EXTREME PREJUDICE NO WORK IN LARGE NUMBERS.
LordWaffles December 21, 2010, 4:09 PM EST.
why does mike have that expression in the last pannel? he looks guilty…
Echo December 21, 2010, 11:20 PM EST.
this just makes me like abbey more
dranor44 December 22, 2010, 3:23 AM EST.
Oh, typo. In Abbey’s speech about the broken window, the word should be “Repaired” not “prepared.”
Zensae December 24, 2010, 4:57 AM EST.
something tells me Mike is remembering the day he almost slit Abbey’s throat.
Isaac January 10, 2011, 12:35 PM EST.
I wish real political debates still went like this.
ArchangelM127 February 11, 2011, 7:08 PM EST.
ABBY!!!So manly, his SPEACH BUBBLES lean on the forth wall!(And try to crush people under it.)
Twiztid April 2, 2011, 2:59 PM EST.
Wow emo abbey. and in panel 2 what he says seems like some thing off of kaze no stigma(Funmation)
DJango Prower April 5, 2011, 2:58 AM EST.
(yes, i know my speling sucks, get over it) i disagry, abby, your aprouch is resonable in some digreas, however all you are doing is stuping to these peoples level. punisment should be dilt with by digree of the crime, not for the crime itself.
zes April 21, 2011, 4:10 PM EST.
Heh. Oh, Abbey, and your extreme methods.
OCD. Sue me. “Yes, I know my spelling sucks. Get over it. I disagree, Abbey. Your approach is reasonable in some degrees. However, all you’re doing is stooping to these peoples’ level. Punishment should be dealt by the degree of the crime, not for the crime itself.”
Hoheh May 4, 2011, 3:04 AM EST.
poor Mike, he looks so sad on the last panel…
Jicak4t May 19, 2011, 2:24 PM EST.
I really loved it when Abbey defended Tess against that one *******…You know, come to think of it, I bet they would work well together, don’t you think? AbbeyXTess, anyone?
I don’t remember the second flashback, though.
I’m glad Abbey’s speech is having an obvious effect on everyone. It’s heavy ****, man.
NintendoSegaSonyGuy May 24, 2011, 3:14 PM EST.
Looooooooooool Panel 5.
IcedHotChocolate June 7, 2011, 3:59 AM EST.
anyone else think Mike looks like a girl in the last panel?
Brogurt July 6, 2011, 2:23 PM EST.
I’d like AbbeyxTess.
Instead of gaping and pointing and shouting “Das EXACTLY what I think!” I’ll just quote myself a little. Word for word, I’m staring at this paper right now, this was an opinion essay I wrote about four years ago, in about the last two months of middle school.
“Men and women have worth. Life itself has worth. We all know this to be true. But I think that trying to martyrize the bully is a fool’s cause. To value the criminal as much as the honest worker is a grave mistake.
“We all live in this town. We all communicate and learn in this facility, we all speak the same language. We all grew up here, we all know those unspoken taboos that we [Name of state]ians define, and consider to be, “Bad.” We all know right and wrong, and if you do not know, it is because you do not look around and see it for yourself what we think. One can learn so much by shutting up and listening.
“Why should we be lenient? Why should we let kids be terrorized because a bully has decided he’s an easy target for his or her power trips? Why should we stand idle, why should we prescribe the weak ineffectual slap on the wrist of detention and suspension, only to delay it rather than permanently end this little everyday terrorism?
“Some idealistic people, my friends but on some manners blissfully naivè, have attempted to admonish me before on this matter, that bullies are misunderstood and unwell kids. Well, if it is by this standard that you wish to label it, then label it as such we shall. We are all a little insane, are we not? It is the very nature of man, we have two minds by default, the conscious and subconscious. Where then do we draw the lines between “normal” and “insane?” Where do we draw the line to say “We cannot live with you here among us any longer?” When society and the individual can no longer coincide. When the individual lives in a different and incompatible world, when the individual’s perception of right and wrong are honestly askew. When they become violent and unpredictable.
“We all know the difference between the actions exalted in our culture and the actions scorned. We all feel the desire on occasion to do these scorned actions. Minor offenses should be discouraged, lest they lead to greater, but even I sometimes snap at people (should probably note I was a renowned unflappable pacifist). I am not saying that anyone who has ever put fear into another be expelled. The line must be drawn, however, where we have to stand up and declare “no more.” As freedom must be defended, as this country and it’s ideals must be defended, so too should our community and it’s members be protected. To bully is to assert fear over another, is to terrorize. Should we fight terrorism internationally, yet ignore it domestically?
“Should we stand aside and allow those who spread fear and doubt among innocent minds to continue only minorly inconvenienced, or should we do something? It is my position that action is necessary.”
Yep. It’s an opinion essay without much of a format. So sorry.
Anyway, on this, I wholeheartedly concur with Abbey.
Biblioholic July 12, 2011, 9:16 AM EST.
90 lady cops and he’s arrested for doing 80. (this is in response to Taeshi’s page comment, its a Bo Burnham song for those who don’t know it)
Deuce Moose August 10, 2011, 2:23 PM EST.
And this… is why Abbey is ****ing awesome.
jackkuro August 17, 2011, 9:58 PM EST.
Holy ****, Abbey, holy ****.
Why can’t I vote for you in REAL LIFE?
That broken windows thing is exactly like something I have been saying for decades now, how letting one thing slide sends the signal that “this doesn’t matter” or in this case “this behaviour is fine, we don’t care, bully whoever you want and we won’t do anything. ”
I was severely bullied as a child, and the teachers and administrators all knew about it, and did absolutely nothing except basically blame me.
I would have there be a warning… instant expulsion is too harsh, the system cannot be that unforgiving because systems make mistakes.
But still, I am with you, man. Am I ever.
Fruvous September 9, 2011, 8:43 AM EST.
i like the fith panel cuz i forgot her name but i think t was sue but antway itts funny cuz shes getting crushed by the speechbubble
Demon Wolf October 11, 2011, 8:41 PM EST.
In biblical terms: An eye for an eye reduces eye-gouging rates by up to 90%, because no one wants their eye gouged out
Random Internet Loser November 3, 2011, 7:40 PM EST.
Abbey, are you definitely, absolutely sure you’re not the Abe Lincoln?
Or at least a descendant.
Harris012 November 13, 2011, 5:36 AM EST.
Last panel foreshadow~
The Sarcastic Spoon December 5, 2011, 7:11 PM EST.
Was this what sparked Mike’s ‘abuse’ claims?
KiwiKoala December 30, 2011, 1:25 AM EST.
So by his reasoning capital punishment should deter crimes like murder right? Well it doesn’t, and people are still gonna pick on people. I love the comic, but it doesn’t get that violent in real life. What people label as bullying is kids picking on each other, and people need to get over it.
Vannabelle December 30, 2011, 4:54 AM EST.
I sense that Abbey must have beat Ray up awhile back.
SniperFox February 2, 2012, 6:00 PM EST.
poor Sue. squished under abbeys giant loud word bubble
Sue: jerko Abbey or probably his name is Abigail
Abbey: WAT DID JU JUSS SAY
Daisy: please stopp we talked about this
Daisy and Abbey: HEYY!!
GoldenCapuccinoFlame June 10, 2012, 11:56 PM EST.
Huh….notice Mike on the bottom panel…it’s like he seems to be taking Abbey’s words to heart. So I am assuming it wasn’t just Sandy who made him realize that the abuse he was taking was no ok either. Am I correct?
DemonicBounty July 12, 2012, 10:11 PM EST.
And that realization of green eye’s over there is the reason why I want to PUNCH to sense into his skull…
El Legendario October 29, 2012, 7:15 AM EST.
Wait a sec - it’s that guy that apologized to Tess when he was all beat up! Abbey did it!
Also, is Mike maybe thinking about Lucy here?
Bleh November 10, 2012, 1:04 AM EST.
So…what’s up with Mike there? He almost looks like he got violent with someone recently and hasn’t said anything about it. Waaaaiiiit…
I'll Eat Yourself January 8, 2013, 7:34 PM EST.
Abbey made an excellent discourse
SpaceMDC January 15, 2013, 8:59 AM EST.
I’m comfused; when you said “prepared”, did you mean “repaired”?
IForgotMyUsername April 21, 2013, 11:27 PM EST.
@Davtwan Word Sword Swords?
Stickman18 May 6, 2013, 11:17 AM EST.
WORD SWORDS WORD SWORDS WORDS
Sambo June 14, 2013, 7:29 PM EST.
I’m not sure preparing the windows will be effective. Repairing maybe, but not preparing.
Grammar Nazi December 18, 2013, 9:12 PM EST.
Yes! This school is slipping into chaos! We need Norsefi- I mean Abbey!
Yes January 6, 2014, 3:29 PM EST.
Ugh… Guilty until proven Innocent? Really now, Abbey?
SotiCoto December 14, 2014, 7:16 AM EST.
I fully agreed with Abbey until I remembered Tess’ past… Hmm, that’s a tough one.
yellowcrash10 April 2, 2015, 2:25 AM EST.
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