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Oh boy we are back on page two of this flashback sequence that is a flashback. A flashback of a different point in time from the previous page but still a flashback.
Oh boy the plot thickens, what will sandy do next
Snoregore December 2, 2011, 12:09 AM EST.
This is amazing! I love this page so much, the expression on Sandy and Mike is just precious, oh god, I can feel a Mike Angst Story Arc coming up. Oh hell, Lucy, you better come back on your feets, strong and steady because Mike is going to have some pretty big issues.
Monanniverse December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
I have to admit I do feel sympathy for Sandy, because it’s obvious that she does care about Mike and his well-being.
Meanwhile the MikeXLucy fans are all “BURN THE WITCH “when it’s pretty obvious she’s not an evil manipulating bitch they make her out to be.
Why so much Sandy bashing? There really is no point. People are saying that Sandy is being to sensitive, while I find her reaction perfectly normal. Her boyfriend is being abused and she can do nothing to help him out, and she’s pretty much taken the hint that Mike might have feelings for the girl who treats him like ****. That’s a lot to understand, and I guess it would be overwhelming for Sandy due to all the **** she has to put up with in her personal life. Modelling, school, and then this.
I don’t understand Sandy hate, is it because she seems perfect? You’d be wrong about that because in To The Top it’s revealed that she has many flaws. Is it because she’s in the way of MikeXLucy? Grow up. You should know better.
Shada December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
Sandy, are you serious? Why so sensitive? o-o
Bluexz December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
Let the Sandy bashing commence!
Smash Genesis December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
Wow. This is getting srs.
CC December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
Ahhh why must you taint such a good soul sandy, why!!!!
Charmdra December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
mike, you gotta try harder to make her understand!
HyperBallistic December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
i dont get why shes crying… she doesn’t need to
Kyute December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
ilovethiscomic December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
infantry56 December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
waealintonomonbiguanuhue December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
And I thought Sandy actually liked Lucy as a friend
It’s all your fault Mike!
o 3o December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
I really hate this girl…ugh
ChicaBoricua December 2, 2011, 12:10 AM EST.
A Flashback to a Flashback leading into another Flashback?
Also sandy brings up a good point.
Ryo December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
SXR123 December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
It’s because of Sandy my favorite character couple will never be! Love is not black and white Sandy!
Seikyuu December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
Ha. aaah. flashback.
Nondell December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
Anybody else think Lucy’s going to bitch slap Sandy?
ultimateZ December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
:X Oh dear, oh deary dear, the flashback filled flashback is getting me really worked up…
Rayjay December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
Ugh, sandy’s too sensitive.
Cyaniede December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
This is interesting. I’m curious to know whats going to happen next.
Also, I feel like Sandy is trying to be manipulative. That may be because I’m exhausted,
Sven December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
Hhhnnnn… as much as I detest Sandy, she brings up a good point. > A >;
I really love how this page is drawn.
Convict December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
Sandy just doesn’t understand… Lucy and Mike have a disfunctional friendship, maybe even unhealthy but they love each other. You take the good with the bad.
Silhouette December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
Wait, this is a flashback?
The Swimmer December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
Mego December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
OWow sandy really doesn’t get that lucy is just messing around doing that…
And the even better part is that we know mike starts to believe her after a while leading up to mikes comment 2 pages ago… seems to me like a child pulling strings
kolarbear December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
SEE GUYS< SEE!? LUCY IS TH E BITCH
Gabriel Kaxbe December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
I get her concern, but my god she is a crybaby
Nate December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
ThatOtherMichael December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
Okay. Mike apparently just got back from the waffle house. Can i hear a flip-flop. Anyways, this is getting kinda interesting, maybe Sandy will end up telling Lucy off, who knows. Maybe this will turn into a deeper realization for Mike. There’s probably gonna be some raging for that Mike thing. Still loving this drama Taeshi. Thank you again.
P.S. Never mind, not quite a flip-flop, forgot to read the description, but still. That is a beautiful Moon. the artwork on this page is amazing. this is a particularly well drawn chapter, unfortunately i think its being a bit overshadowed by the MikexLucyxSandy thing.
Deuce Moose December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
why does she always call him in a towel and her hair wet?
chellby December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
And we see the birth of an ugly jealousy unfold
Flicker December 2, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
Oh no …. Sandy you ruined something that could have been fixed…
Aaron North December 2, 2011, 12:12 AM EST.
Strange that she’s crying, but she really does care about him.
Eveco December 2, 2011, 12:12 AM EST.
Poor sheltered Sandy: unintentially stirring drama like usual…
JD December 2, 2011, 12:12 AM EST.
birds December 2, 2011, 12:12 AM EST.
…. I have a feeling Sandy has never seen how most guys “Bond”… I’ve seen guys nearly break something because they’re horseing around or what not. And I’ve known some girls that do end up hitting and shoving a bit as part of they’re way of voicing oppinions and such… Sandy seems to be in a bubble where “friends” means absolute harmony.
MG December 2, 2011, 12:12 AM EST.
It was a flashback?
What the ****, really??
Captain Obvious December 2, 2011, 12:12 AM EST.
Sandy surely is sensitive.
Waldo December 2, 2011, 12:12 AM EST.
Cant … Resist… Eminating…sandy….hate
Serapharah December 2, 2011, 12:13 AM EST.
I’m not sure how I feel about this… Something, doesn’t seem right with Sandy. I mean friends fight and they do hit, god knows how many times me and my friends have slapped each other around a bit just ‘cause. So, I don’t really know what to think about her.
Also, you never see her eyes in these flashbacks..
Krimskii December 2, 2011, 12:13 AM EST.
OH I SEE WHAT’S HAPPENING IN THIS FLASHBACK. This is when he started to realize (or be forced by Sandy, not sure yet) his hate for Lucy. SHE CAUSED US ALL PAIN. So, I must agree… BURN THE WITCH!!
Taeshi, once again, your art always leaves me breathless. Even if it’s someone who I hate COUGHSANDYCOUGH, I still love it. I HOPE YOU MAKE DESE PAGES PURTY FOREVER.
ThatGirlWithGlasses December 2, 2011, 12:13 AM EST.
MIKE! Y U NO BE NICE TO LUCY!
Wolf December 2, 2011, 12:13 AM EST.
Okay Sandy. Seriously. Crying is not the answer to every problem. And it’s not like Mike hasn’t retaliated. Sandy needs (needed?) to calm her **** and quit her whining.
Kikren December 2, 2011, 12:13 AM EST.
@ultimateZ and Silhouette
Bittersweet PauloxLucy December 2, 2011, 12:13 AM EST.
Don’t cry, Sandy.
B-man December 2, 2011, 12:13 AM EST.
Sandy is the root of all evil or at least the root of all problems for our dear main characters in this comic.
swb December 2, 2011, 12:13 AM EST.
I found the artist comment more enjoyable than the actual page.
It’s not that it isn’t good it’s just that I saw it coming. Not surprised and yet I still have hope for LucyXMike despite how this chapter is going. We just need to erase “Break and, or Crush Lucy’s heart.” off of Taeshi’s to do list.
Teeroy766 December 2, 2011, 12:14 AM EST.
:\\ bitch shut up
Matt December 2, 2011, 12:14 AM EST.
@WOLF yeah another meme !
infantry56 December 2, 2011, 12:14 AM EST.
If only you knew what those words are doing to your boyfriend sandy. If only you knew what you are doing. I hope someone breaks the news to her, and fast
Charmdra December 2, 2011, 12:14 AM EST.
When is this
I dont even
Jake December 2, 2011, 12:14 AM EST.
Ugh, she is such a crybaby. She is too soft and Lucy is too tough. Hmm..
AmberPhoenix December 2, 2011, 12:14 AM EST.
Sandy, stop, you’re breaking my heart.
I am so glad for this flashback though, to finally get to see inside Mike’s head. And it’s good to know what started this in the first place is that it’s Sandy worrying about HIM and not hating on Lucy.
Also, owch at Mike trying to defend Lucy. It’s like him being concerned about Sandy’s concern blinded him to how good of a friend Lucy is. If that makes sense.
I’m loving these pages, though. It’s kind of a nice break from the emotional roller coaster a little bit back.
Sabe December 2, 2011, 12:14 AM EST.
I officially want to slap the crap out of her now. *rage*
Chompy December 2, 2011, 12:14 AM EST.
Sandy, don’t just act like that.
Blue December 2, 2011, 12:14 AM EST.
@Gabriel Kaxbe: you mustn’t judge others.
anyways, I LOVE this page!!!!
sen December 2, 2011, 12:14 AM EST.
someone needs to open sandys eyes (if she even has any O_O)
just… shes stuck in the spoiled kid zone, thinking friendship must be perfect or it doesn’t exist
but something tells me she’ll get the reality beaten into her by, oh id say about 3 or 4 of the characters in a week(in comic time)
i only wish i was there to take part…
steve December 2, 2011, 12:15 AM EST.
Poor Sandy…. Sure, it might seem like she’s overreacting, but think about it; were Lucy the guy and Mike the girl, wouldn’t we all be just as upset?
Lucy’s behavior toward Mike was abusive, regardless of her gender. And yes, Mike was partially at fault for letting it get so bad, but it doesn’t change the facts.
I’m not angry with Sandy at all, but I am still mad at Mike’s actions right now….
Skygaze December 2, 2011, 12:15 AM EST.
She may not realize it but she is being controlling…. Saying that she thinks he loves Lucy, not ostening to what he has to say about her. And last saying a real friend doesn’t do things like that. Sandy’s sweet an all but she’s paranoid and suspicious. Next it will be his other friends. =/
Anagha December 2, 2011, 12:16 AM EST.
It’s generally a bad idea to date overly possessive and excessively clingy people. They usually end up stalking you for months on end and/or chopping you up into little tiny bits so your corpse can fit down the kitchen sink.
ArkaniusXII December 2, 2011, 12:16 AM EST.
oh sheesh sandy. you are too overly sensitive. It’s kind of annoying
Memory Anemone December 2, 2011, 12:16 AM EST.
Um… Sandy, while I do agree with ya, I think the whole crying thing is over-reacting…
Fyre December 2, 2011, 12:16 AM EST.
I like Sandy. She just CARES about Mike. So what if she overexggarates? When you’re separated from someone for a long time and you know that they get hurt a lot from this person especially from the opposite sex you get like this sometimes. And these flashbacks means that Mike has actually defended Lucy and not jump the gun about hating her so he ain’t a jerk. He actually thought about it (For years even) and contemplated about it.
Trouble December 2, 2011, 12:16 AM EST.
Somewhat I feel detached with Sandy’s faceless expressions. As if we’re not supposed to empathize with her…
Lena December 2, 2011, 12:16 AM EST.
Oh my god. She cares about Mike so much.. It breaks my heart. I get her side, her compassion and caring, but she’s assuming it’s a bit worse than it is. I mean, I don’t condone violence, but most of the time they’re just rough-housing.
I do sense bad things in the future though, should Sandy meet Lucy. I feel as though she will probably auto-hate her before knowing her. I have to agree with Mike; she’s a good person, with some issues. Not everyone can understand that though..
Mewzia December 2, 2011, 12:17 AM EST.
I understand your concern, Sandy, but the thing is you don’t know her that well. You wouldn’t understand like Mike does.
You should not have left, Sandy.
Sarge December 2, 2011, 12:17 AM EST.
*cue dramatic music* Now I really want to see the next page.
Curse you plot!
OmegaB December 2, 2011, 12:17 AM EST.
Reaction from BCB fans was expected.
She has good intentions and is concerned about her boyfriend getting hurt. Doesn’t mean she’s a bitch.
Though she is being a little melodramatic right now hahaha
Flara December 2, 2011, 12:17 AM EST.
To be honest, while I understand her sentiment, her statement of “do you love her?” makes me suspicious of her motives. I’m sure she’s not meaning any specific ill will, but that can easily be the start of something ugly. He was clearly saying he was dishing it back. And friends, at least that I’ve had, tend to roughhouse a lot. I don’t find it strange. I find Sandy’s reactions strange. But, I grew up a tomboy, so that’s me.
Still. “Do you love her?”. That says something to me. I’m not sure what, but it makes me… cautious of her future sentiments.
Something Witty December 2, 2011, 12:17 AM EST.
Wait, Lucy threw a tantrum, I thought she was just trying to figure out what is wrong with Mike. And Lucy didn’t scream that much, it was all Mike, and she never tried to slap him she didn’t even threaten him.
So this proves that Mike is exaggerating and lying to Sandy just to get her sympathy.
And again, where is Yashi, Chirpy, Blur, and Lily in all of this.
Lizzy December 2, 2011, 12:18 AM EST.
Hoo boy. Sandy, come on. It’s stuff like this that makes me like Sandy less. Then again, Lucy does not understand the “just friends” barrier. Mike, just punch something, man!
äase December 2, 2011, 12:18 AM EST.
So if Mike has been telling Sandy about what Lucy does, is it possible that Sandy now hates Lucy? And if Mike still hung out with Lucy it would cause problems in their relationship?
Dear god it’s all falling into place.
Despite that, I can’t find myself to hate any of the characters, not Mike, nor Lucy, nor Sandy, nor anyone. I guess it’s because I can see things from their perspective and understand the way their acting. Great comic by the way.
Lejxk December 2, 2011, 12:19 AM EST.
I’ve got a pretty bad feeling about this one, but if this goes over how I expect it to with Sandy breaking up with Mike now and with Lucy being mad at Mike, then it will be a good wake up call for him.
Zabimaru388 December 2, 2011, 12:19 AM EST.
I used to believe mike had turned on us, but now I realize the true enemy was sandy all this time…..
ZEALOTS prepare for battle let all who oppose us be washed in our divine light!
Charmdra December 2, 2011, 12:19 AM EST.
If Mike is all, “OHMYGOD I HATE YOU LUCY GO DIE IN A FIRE”
WHy is he defending her?
MIXED SIGNALS AGH. MIKE. MAKE. UP. YOUR. MIND.
DO YOU HATE HER, OR NOT. SIMPLE QUESTION.
Thank you, great work as always, even though Mike is weird.
Keep it up!
I AM A STEGOSAURUS December 2, 2011, 12:21 AM EST.
LOL Thanks, Taeshi! xD Now that the flashback issue is cleared up…
SO IT IS ALL SANDY’S FAULT! MIKE WAS FINE UNTIL SHE DID THAT!!! I have a couple of friends that are a couple like Mike and Lucy. They always beat each other up over stupid things. They continue to break up and get back together. I suspect Mike will get over this drama and return to Lucy
Silversoma December 2, 2011, 12:21 AM EST.
Sandy’s a good person, and I do agree with her, he shouldn’t put up with someone he hates, but god, the whole crying because your boyfriend got kicked in the knee… A little over the top don’t ya think girl? I’d laugh in her face if she were real. Definatly not a girl I’d ever wanna be around. (Love Lucy, am happy Mike has someone that makes him happy, hate that he’s a jerk to Lucy, but still agree that he shouldn’t /have/ to be her friend just to make her happy)
Blue December 2, 2011, 12:21 AM EST.
i find two things incredible; first off how can people call sandy over protective or oversensitive? how is getting upset that your boyfriend is being hit a bad thing? its a perfectly normal feeling to have for someone you love who is experiencing pain. secondly, its kinda sad that taeshi has to repeatedly say this is a flashback just so people can understand.
The-Gray-Angel December 2, 2011, 12:22 AM EST.
@Lizzy: Do you even read the Author’s Note? Do you even comprehend the brightly-coloured images that make up the comic? It’s a ****ing flashback! Jesus christ this is Another Path all over again.
This is not carrying on from what happened two pages ago, you cloth-brained nonces! Get with it, already!
SushiJaguar December 2, 2011, 12:22 AM EST.
I love this comic. Just though you should know.
Atlas December 2, 2011, 12:22 AM EST.
@I am a stegosaurus this is a flash back scene dummy
Charmdra December 2, 2011, 12:22 AM EST.
Hey everyone, quick reminder:
This is a flashback before all the drama started. Taeshi is showing us why Mike has been leaving Lucy out in the cold.
Just to help hopefully cut down on some confusion.
Sabe December 2, 2011, 12:23 AM EST.
Still calling for a bitch fight! And I see lucy making the first swing over something sandy says
Chelis December 2, 2011, 12:23 AM EST.
Is kind of interesting how poeple are taking so personal a chacter actions
I can understand why people who side with slucy are trying to hate Sandy so bad
but at the end is mike who takes the desitions of his life
besides as far as i can see Sandy is a nice girl who realy cares for who she loves
to bad your Comment message , span detector warning have become so large
, that even this had to pass thru it
Dracke December 2, 2011, 12:23 AM EST.
It would be nice to point out that these are flashbacks IN THE COMIC than in the author’s comments section.
Just sayin’ :U
Anonymous December 2, 2011, 12:23 AM EST.
Well, she’s not really around them, ever. So, I guess its reasonable why she would react like that. But to ask if Mike loves Lucy, right off the bat? Well, she’s not too far off either, and I don’t blame her trying to understand why he’s around someone who hurts Mike, but to get that upset? No wonder Mike’s acting like this, he feels cornered! O.O
Subaru December 2, 2011, 12:24 AM EST.
@Lizzy: We don’t know if this particular incident involving Mike and Lucy even showed up in the comic or not. And Mike isn’t the type to lie for attention from his girlfriend, judging by his surprised reaction.
Flara December 2, 2011, 12:24 AM EST.
Friends don’t hit each other, best friends hit each other. I hit and yell at my friends all the time and they hit me back, it’s all in good fun. I don’t see why Sandy is acting like this to the point of crying. It’s completely pointless to cry over something like that. I do understand what she’s saying, don’t get me wrong, but it seems that she’s using her tears to sway Mike. I, personally, would tell Mike that Lucy shouldn’t be hitting him like that, but I’d never ever start crying about something as simply as screaming and almost getting slapped. That’s just ridiculous.
Since I was too lazy to comment on the other pages, and I have a comment here, I’ll just put this in as a review of the last few pages. Lucy is being unreasonable with her actions in the past and they are unjustifiable, but at least she’s not saying that she hates Mike. She’s trying to restart the bond that Mike and she used to have, but Mike’s just doing as Sandy says because Sandy’s his girlfriend and he’d gladly lose all his friends just to make her stop crying. Yet another reason the tears were unnecessary, look at what they did to Lucy and Mike! Mike and Lucy are both in the wrong here and they should just put the past behind them and keep moving forwards. Just become friends again, it would be less awkward. Lucy- Stop abusing Mike. Mike- stop emotionally breaking Lucy and maybe she’d be less clingy. Mike please, I’m begging you, don’t let her go. You’re the closest friend she had and if you leave her, she’ll have nowhere else to go. You’re just being selfish by doing that, but your actions are reasonable. But to go as far as to scream at her when you’re both supposed to working on a stupid project. Mike is just making this way worse than it should be, and Lucy shouldn’t have reacted the way she did when Mike stopped talking to her. If they had both just grown up, this never would have happened.
Woop-de-doo long rant time. I try to appease both Lucy-supporters and Mike-supporters, because personally I believe they’re both at fault and neither one has a right to do what they did. However I do almost expect responses by hardcore Mike fans or Lucy fans saying I don’t know what I’m talking about. Oh well, more drama in the comments.
LightTribeWarrior December 2, 2011, 12:24 AM EST.
Lawl I totally thought panel 11 was Sandy’s butt for awhile xD I was like “If that’s her butt where’s her tail?!” then I realize it was her crying.
Trouble December 2, 2011, 12:24 AM EST.
So much for my theory that Sandy knows nothing of all this.
I’m guessing Sandy listened to Mike telling her about all the things they do and what we’re seeing are just times where Sandy couldn’t keep her concern bottled up. Mike and Lucy’s circle of friends all understand her personality and their relationship but to someone who hears about it for the first time it sounds a lot like abuse. It kinda was to a degree but Mike kinda knew it came with the territory of being Lucy’s friend. Sandy, however, is probably getting an ugly picture painted in her head and is trying to stir Mike into standing up for himself. There’s also just the slightest hint of jealousy…
Ziur December 2, 2011, 12:25 AM EST.
I understood that the last page was a flashback after I thought about it for just a second but this page had no details on it whatsoever that indicate that it is not after Lucy leaves mike’s house tonight until we reach the third to last pannle.
She is so sheltered, it’s some funny stuff. She must have never had a freind who she swapped insults with regularly before. Not everything is actualy as pointed as it seems. I guess that’s one of the drawbacks of the life she has lead. To her, a freind can’t also be a big fat jerk and they also can’t practice falce torment.
bla December 2, 2011, 12:27 AM EST.
Me: Looks like somebody’s afraid of losing their position
Sandy: Watch your mouth!
Me: that proves it, somebody’s jealous
Charmdra December 2, 2011, 12:27 AM EST.
Okay, now I see where this is going. Intentional or not, she’s playing emotional blackmail here. It isn’t fair on Mike to have to defend Lucy, nor is it fair for Mike to feel guilty for being friends with her, either. It is sad that Sandy places herself as the wedge in their friendship, and won’t even budge when Lucy is at least changing. Also, Lucy really has been avoiding Mike. Mike was the one that got them stuck together in the first place at this time. He knows, deep down, that Lucy really is trying to change, but now it’s getting to the point to where Sandy (now so full of hate for Lucy) is making Mike feel like absolute s*it for it. No, Sandy is not in the right here, and she may not even be coming over. Mike might have said that to try and shoo Lucy away.
Renadt December 2, 2011, 12:28 AM EST.
Hahaha, love the subtle indirect there Taeshi, still loving this comic, so glad I found it like a year ago, but I wished I could have found it even earlier.
As for the comic I kinda get Sandy’s point but I love LucyxMike so much I have a hard time acknowledging that. I love the deepness this comic has taken, I care none bout the art (awesome BTW) but the story is the only thing that catches my attention, this could have been a book and I would have read it like 500 times already.
Keep being awesome Taeshi!
Gyro December 2, 2011, 12:28 AM EST.
ok, i understand this reaction but I still think it is retarded. Trust your man girl…. he can handle himself. well, somewhat usually………………….. She seems like she hasn’t seen enough of the world yet… or dealt with enough awful people………… I feel bad for her but even worse for Mike
kikimmicoa December 2, 2011, 12:29 AM EST.
flashbacks… of course!
would’ve been nice to know that when the flashback actually started…
by the way… sandy is getting on my nerves, now.
god, i hate people who cry over every goddamn thing!
they deserve nothing less than a painful death.
well, atleast that means the scene with mike emotionally assassinating lucy wasn’t skipped!
i can’t wait to see more despair… i love the suffering of others!
Thanatos December 2, 2011, 12:29 AM EST.
Why Sandy why?
Raven December 2, 2011, 12:29 AM EST.
Maybe there was some concern from Sandy that Mike had another girl to pay attention too. As she did bring up ‘Love’. But I think it leans more to Sandy’s “black and white” view of friendship — cause her facts are true.
You know, maybe Mike was tolerating Lucy because he did love her. But when he stopped loving her the toleration had no more point.
Jax December 2, 2011, 12:29 AM EST.
Mixed feelings once again…
In one way, I agree with Sandy. A friend wouldn’t ever hurt you. But in another way, I disagree with her. Some friends are rough with each other (as some people’s past comments have pointed out before); Sandy has never really had that experience before so of course she would be upset about it.
I dunno… I don’t really support MikeXSandy… Sandy’s too perfect; she doesn’t have a single flaw so far and it irritates me. To me, it seems like bad character development or something.
Mike’s probably saying he hates Lucy partly because of realization and mostly to satisfy his girlfriend. But Sandy doesn’t really know Lucy or her side of the story, so… yeah… This probably won’t end well for anyone..
Guest D December 2, 2011, 12:30 AM EST.
*glares* Cant tell if she is either protective or manipulative.
Darf14 December 2, 2011, 12:31 AM EST.
Crap! Shes ruining everything!!!
Redneck December 2, 2011, 12:32 AM EST.
No Lizzy you are an idiot it even says in the description this is a flashback.
Also, Lucy fans are in denial. Sandy haters are insecure because they think she’s too perfect and innocent/sheltered. Just because someone didn’t have it hard and was lucky in life and kept their innocence of childhood longer doesn’t mean you get to bash them cause you didn’t have a perfect childhood. Sandy haters who think she’s perfect aren’t comfortable with themselves because they’re jelly. It’s just like when girls hate girl celebrities that haven’t done anything wrong other than the fact that they’re prettier and get more attention.
Ven December 2, 2011, 12:32 AM EST.
“If you don’t love her then stop hanging around her! You’re better than that!”
I get where she’s coming from, in a way. I mean, if my boyfriend was hanging around someone that hit him, I wouldn’t be too pleased. Hell, if he hung around someone that caused so much abuse to him in the first place, I wouldn’t let that stand. I was in a situation similar to Sandy’s before. I was Sandy (except for being a model); I lived that sheltered life, not understanding abuse, and not understanding others for accepting it.
I almost feel for the girl…but…she still seems off. I still think she has security issues, and using her words to control Mike. Maybe not consciously, but the signs are there.
“Was it that girl again?” Carries that aggravated, annoyed tone, that goes along with “You haven’t dismissed her yet?” wording. Her outbursts too, they throw me off. The “WHY?!” from the previous page, and the “SHE HURTS YOU!” both sound like yelling, like she’s trying to force him to see it from her perspective. She expects him to see the world the way she does, and it baffles her every time he allows something to slip through, and get blurred.
Sandy’s world is very black-and-white. There is no gray fields, and she has a very curt and rigid sense of right and wrong. No abuse should be tolerated, and all violence is the same. She’s an extremely ‘Lawful Good’ entity, and on top of that, she’s empathetic to those close to her. If she knows someone close to her is in pain, she feels it for them, even if they tend to put on a brave face for them.
Sandy, at this point in the story line, is still sheltered to the abrasions in the world, and if she has felt/seen any violence, friendly or fiend, she doesn’t react well to it. She’s probably seen some horrible things in her childhood, like possibly her parents splitting up, or her dad hitting her mom (We haven’t seen her dad at all, so he’s either busy, or left the picture in some fashion, most likely a violent one.)
I guess its how closely I can relate to Sandy is what irks me so. I know exactly where she’s coming from, where her mind is at, and how, if she doesn’t get a thicker skin to the harshness of reality, she’s always going to have this mentality of ‘Violence is an ultimate evil, and anyone that commits it is thus forth evil as well’. She doesn’t take into account verbal abuse, because that’s not as powerful as physical abuse, in her mind. Of course, that’s assuming she’s never had any account of verbal abuse. Knowing Sandy, she doesn’t take kindly to verbal, but physical is the worst sin possible.
I hope I’ve given some insight.
the other white meat December 2, 2011, 12:32 AM EST.
These flashbacks just made me change from MikexLucy to MikexSandy
Bangomango December 2, 2011, 12:32 AM EST.
@Lissy this isn’t after the page three pages back. It’s still a flashback, just look at the Author comment.
Rayjay December 2, 2011, 12:32 AM EST.
Thorban December 2, 2011, 12:34 AM EST.
i can kinda see concern but thing is she knew lucy a lil an thing is i see manipulation an jealousy hitting here…otherwise she wouldn’t of asked him if he was in love with lucy…theres a solid shot of jealousy right there an if im wrong then hell sure as hell don’t wanna see whats right then O.o
DarkFox December 2, 2011, 12:34 AM EST.
It’s pretty obvious at this point Sandy isn’t a really bad person nor is she one who wants Mike to herself, she’s just really concerned that Mike will get seriously hurt because of Lucy’s actions. It kind of amazes me that there is so much hate for Sandy yet none for Lucy who has hurt Mike in the past both physically and probably emotionally. Then again this is like a slap of hard truth for the LucyxMike fan club.
Izaya December 2, 2011, 12:35 AM EST.
Lucy was very critical in these times i will agree… but i dunno i guess i am just mad at mike because he isn’t acting differently when she is trying her best to change and be nice… acting differently as in he’s an abakazaba-hater-from-hell at the time in present. And then i am angry with sandy for making such a judgment on lucy when she really doesn’t even understand their relationship… but i guess if i had someone i loved that much being hurt and not caring i would be protective as well… And lastly I am angry with Lucy for not changing any sooner… but i guess it is better late then never… but there is also do not put off till tomorrow what can be done today…. oh well quotes all just cancel themselves out. well this is a beautiful page! I can see how you have been improving with drawing characters at different angles and perspectives. this page also has a soft tone to it that sets the mood fairly well. thankyou for all of your work!
lemme sleep plz December 2, 2011, 12:35 AM EST.
poor sandy. i feel for you honey. i kinda hope lucy gets crap from sandy when sandy comes.
Rachel Vang December 2, 2011, 12:37 AM EST.
Agh…more mixed emotions. I really can’t bring myself to hate Sandy nor I can’t bring myself to actually like her, probably due to the lack of flaws but then again we don’t really see much of her but when we do she seems like a really sweet girl who’s just concerned for her boyfriend. But like Guest D said, she just seems too perfect so it’s hard for me to relate to her…
I AM SO TORN. STOP BREAKING MY HEART SANDY PLEASE!!!
Megaphone December 2, 2011, 12:37 AM EST.
Anonymous: It is implied in the comic. Pretty clearly. Sorry that you are not at a grade two reading level? :U;
Seriously - the Monday’s page on the final panel Mike says that Sandy has convinced him to stand up for himself. That would imply we are going to see an explanation as to why.
Next page, Mike is scarfless, without his iPhone and complaining about how he doesn’t have a cordless phone, speaking about Lucy like a friend, Sandy isn’t really even aware of Lucy’s existence, the window of her room is clearly daylight.
This page, Mike’s bed is a completely different colour to the green bed where he is arguing with Lucy, and Sandy is wearing different clothes in a different bed, so different from the previous page and different from the modern page. Mike is also not using his iPhone. He is also DEFENDING Lucy like a friend, so clearly he has no hate like in the present time. It is also night time, with no snow??????
Sorry that I am not using a box that says “THIS IS A FLASHBACK” but I rather not treat my readers like children and show the change of time visually. All these contradictions to the real time should clearly show that these events do not take place after Mike and Lucy fight. It would not make any sense.
Taeshi December 2, 2011, 12:38 AM EST.
My goodness, Sandy is so cute it makes my heart hurt.
KillerCobraZ117 December 2, 2011, 12:38 AM EST.
Sandy wasn’t jealous. She was probably worried she was going to lose Mike and was genuinely sad, not plotting and evil jealous bitch mode. Stop comparing sandy to yourselves and what you would do in that situation you haters lol
Ven December 2, 2011, 12:39 AM EST.
Hrm, not entirely convinced that what Sandy’s saying is coming completely from her concern for Mike. Seems a little too quickly judgemental. Then again, from what we’ve seen of her, when left to her own devices, Sandy is a pretty impulsive person. Still, while I’m sure she may not approve of the way Lucy treated Mike, I will think that some of this stems from a bit of jealousy on her part. Remember back when they were together physically and she dominated almost every second of Mike’s time? Starting to think there was more to that than the simple toughtlessness of children…
Daeva December 2, 2011, 12:41 AM EST.
Apparently it is more directly Sandy’s fault than might have been expected; she really did ask him why he hangs out with her (and also showed she caught that he still had feelings for him~ Which of course could mean she is being manipulative, though of course she could also just be enormously soft, given that her parents seem to push on her a lot).
But of course now Mike “hates” her~
Titanium Dragon December 2, 2011, 12:42 AM EST.
I don’t think she’s overreacting because she doesn’t remember Lucy at all and all Mike is telling her is the times he and Lucy get into some kind of fight. Also, she doesn’t quite understand how their friendship is.
So whenever Mike mentions Lucy or she is brought up in their talks, Sandy gets depress and she’ll think, “Oh god, another fight. She’d hurt him again.”
If your only giving bad news to someone about the same thing (Lucy) all the time, what else can you expect the person receiving the info then to have bad feelings towards that?
So based on what Mike has given her, Sandy dislikes Lucy and will try to convince him to see what she is seeing.
Sepiawolf December 2, 2011, 12:43 AM EST.
aja, sandy you are in the hole and mike(by heeding heer) too
Jonny_M December 2, 2011, 12:43 AM EST.
Sandy, why must you brainwash mike? Unintentionaly! I hope someone breaks the news to her and fast. The suspence is killing me!
Charmdra December 2, 2011, 12:44 AM EST.
as much as I like the idea of MikexLucy I have to admit it has many flaws, Sandy really cares about Mike, and good for them. But I really don’t like the how much heartbreak Lucy has to go through for it to be shown she really hasn’t been fair.
longinus212 December 2, 2011, 12:45 AM EST.
Ah passive aggressive guilt trip…nice. I really am not that fond of Sandy. Maybe it’s just her lack of doing anything positive or constructive. She seems more like a plot device then an actual character. That may just be me though.
Battle-chan December 2, 2011, 12:45 AM EST.
I hear a lot of people saying that Sandy just doesn’t get how Mike and Lucy’s friendship works, and that plenty of friends are vitriolic to each other. This is true. Sandy leads a very sheltered lifestyle. I can hardly imagine Sandy’s parents tolerating a friend who treats his/her companions roughly as a suitable friend for Sandy.
But Sandy is right to. Yes, plenty of friends tease each other, and play punch each other. But these actions are (usually) not overly harsh, nor are they done out of anger, but out of jest. If you’re hitting your friend hard enough that their trembling and it hurts to sit down, and because he/she “annoyed” you, you’re doing it wrong. In this case, Lucy’s attempt to slap Mike was not in jest. Mike said that Lucy through a tantrum and they got into an argument that left them hoarse, at which point Lucy tried to slap him. This was done out of anger. And, yes, there are times when Lucy would tease or hit Mike playfully, and I really don’t have a problem with those situations. But there were also times that Lucy was genuinely mistreating Mike. So claiming that Sandy’s naïvety caused her to mislead Mike into hating Lucy, or that Mike has no grounds to be angry with Lucy, and that he’s just a plain old jerk with no justifiable reason to have resentment towards Lucy is wrong. There are elements of all of this, true. Sandy is sheltered and doesn’t really understand Mike and Lucy’s relationship, and Mike is behaving a bit like a jerk, but Lucy is not the innocent victim in all of this. She did mistreat Mike. She was mean to him. Yes, she has her insecurities and problems, but that does not give you license to mistreat others. The situation is not as black-and-white as some make it out to be. Mike and Sandy aren’t heartless monsters, or misled into disliking Lucy. There are genuinely unlikable aspects to Lucy’s character, even though she is a good person overall.
edgelesspigeon December 2, 2011, 12:45 AM EST.
Cant blame Sandy although I wish Mike would stop acting like a dick to sandy, I dont want sandy and mike to break up. he only reason Mike and Sandy should break it off is if Mike doesn not genuiely love Sandy
shoge15 December 2, 2011, 12:46 AM EST.
oopssorry messed up when i said dick to sandy i meant dick to lucy
shoge15 December 2, 2011, 12:48 AM EST.
So, is this a flashback by any chance?
Sidnoea December 2, 2011, 12:49 AM EST.
Huuuuuugh… Why so much Sandy VS Lucy crap? Do you people think that by voicing your opinions loudly enough you can change the author’s mind just like that? There’s a plan for the long term and right now Lucy just doesn’t fit with Michael. End of story.
As for “You’re totally biased towards Sandy, so your argument is invalid!” Ever hear of Tall Poppy Syndrome? I was immunised at birth, so i’m able to see things objectivley. Sandy is responding totally normally to the situation and is maybe taking it less seriously than she should because of Mike’s position at the beginning.
Until I see Sandy torment Lucy in person about “taking Michael from Lucy” Sandy has the moral high ground in this and is (In my eyes) the good guy
Cloudedice December 2, 2011, 12:50 AM EST.
And then Sandy became annoying. Seriously? This is where you’re taking her character? She had potential to be a strong strong but concerned presence who was there for Mike, not a little girl hunched over and sobbing over a boyfriend who’s obviously fine. What a waste of a perfectly good character, just a drama vessel and nothing more! Ugh.
KiwiKoala December 2, 2011, 12:51 AM EST.
Hey taesh, can you please not make any more “Inception” based comments? It’s not that I didn’t like what you said or the “Inception” movie, but just that anytime i think about the concept, my head hurts like hell. The comic didn’t even load beore my mind practically exploded from your response. Anyways, love where this is going……imminent breakup during christmas visit, maybe? Idk, you’ve thrown me a red herring at almost every single turn now that I wouldn’t be surpised if the two of them went did a lil’ cherry poppin’ towards the end of this arc.
phoenix16 December 2, 2011, 12:51 AM EST.
Flashback from a Flashback
Shane-O))) December 2, 2011, 12:51 AM EST.
What sandy is saying is right… but she might be being a little bit overdramatic
Crush December 2, 2011, 12:52 AM EST.
….Drama Llama. Sandy is just an overdramatic baby.
Nyteowl December 2, 2011, 12:54 AM EST.
oh, or this could happen.
I understand where Sandy is coming from but she’s not listening to Mike, which she should.
Nikkisaurus December 2, 2011, 12:54 AM EST.
IS THIS A FLASHBACK?
CAUSE TAESHI NEVER LETS US KNOW.
Don’t friends always beat each other up? Isn’t that the true meaning of friendship? A slap in the face?
JL December 2, 2011, 1:00 AM EST.
What irks me slightly is her comment, “A real friend would never hurt you…EVER!”
Simply for the fact that…even though my friends and I don’t run around slugging each other in the way that Lucy does to Mike, we do occasionally hit and push one another. Generally in good fun. And I know her statement is refering to the physical “abuse” that Lucy inflicts on Mike, but it also makes me think about the emotional/mental hurt too. I know I’ve had my fair share of hurting and being hurt by friends. But in the end that’s what always brought everything around. We were friends. We made mistakes. And they (generally) were owned up to. So I think her saying that is a bit naïve of her. Or maybe it’s simply coming from bad experience with so-called “friends” from her past. -Shrug- I’m unsure because there isn’t too much evidence supporting it one way over the other…
Anyway I’m still all for PauloxLucy here, but I don’t hate Sandy, Mike or Lucy. Or any of the BCB cast for that matter. I just wanna see some healing starting for both Mike and Lucy.
Yaschiri December 2, 2011, 1:01 AM EST.
KiwiKoala: She’s sobbing because she believes Mike is in denial and feels powerless to help him, because at the end of the day there’s no way she could really be there to witness Lucy’s real behaviour and stop her from hitting her boyfriend. There’s a difference between rough-housing and Mike coming home pretty irritated about the whole situation with a giant gash on his leg. And then just rationalising it to being his fault.
“Obviously fine”, so I guess you’re completely cool with domestic abuse so long as the wife says “Oh it’s okay he takes me out to dinner and tells me he loves me, I’m okay even though I got this black eye from him today!” Disgusting.
This is with the implication that these phonecalls are not the only times Mike was all casual about getting abused.
I am admittedly pretty shocked at the amount of abuse-sympathisers here. It’s not exactly very comforting.
Taeshi December 2, 2011, 1:01 AM EST.
We have to go deeper
Blueb December 2, 2011, 1:02 AM EST.
At last, Taeshi speaks! The voice of reason! Lucy wasn’t just “roughhousing”, she was going overboard.
edgelesspigeon December 2, 2011, 1:04 AM EST.
-.- I’m Sorry Sandy But… Your such a crybaby .. I know you really REALLY care about mike…but that’s what friends do.. Lucy didn’t mean to hurt mike.. they usually play like that by fighting..lol.
Leen619 December 2, 2011, 1:05 AM EST.
….and so the friendship was ruined, by an overdramatic little girl, sobbing on the phone about a girl she has NO RIGHT AT ALL to judge. Friendship ruined, by a girl a million miles away, who played a part in turning Lucy into who she is today, and won’t listen to Mikes explanations.
You’re nothing more than a crybaby.
Drink a cup of concrete and harden the **** up. It’s life, sweety, not everyone has the perfect personality you seem to be expecting them to have.
Stuffnthat December 2, 2011, 1:05 AM EST.
@Taeshi, I think people are thinking of it more as rough housing than domestic abuse. Anyways you make an excellent, which i suppose isn’t surprising since your the author. haha, but I admit I never really thought about it in specific terms of abuse.
Deuce Moose December 2, 2011, 1:06 AM EST.
If this is a flashback, I won’t know until the final page of the flashback, flashback. (flash back)
I am starting to get why she would think Lucy is being abusive now I meAn guys she’s a distant girlfriend who is obvy worried about her man. Come on.
Aspear December 2, 2011, 1:07 AM EST.
So, pretty much like I thought, yeah. Sandy is just being a good friend.
How do people have phone sex in this universe?
“So, what are you wearing?”
“Nothing. How about you?”
“Nope, totally nude, like everyone else. ”
“Well, been nice talking to you… ”
Fruvous December 2, 2011, 1:08 AM EST.
I do have some sympathy for Sandy because I was in a long distance relationship myself not long ago, but right now I’m not sure how i feel about their relationship because of that.
and mike…umm… didn’t you just yell “I hate you” at Lucy but you’re telling your girlfriend that you are just friends, and she’s a good person? my goodness man, get your train of thoughts on a one way track and just keep going.
and now I must go to sleep, ten wait 3 days until Monday…
beccy52 December 2, 2011, 1:09 AM EST.
The day Sandy meets Lucy, total bitch slap
Leo December 2, 2011, 1:09 AM EST.
Rusco Istar December 2, 2011, 1:10 AM EST.
What lucy is doing isnt play fighting, she does it out of anger not fun its differnt its abuse, plain and simple.
dont get me wrong i dont think lucy is a terrible person she just needs to know it is not alright to kick people in the shin so hard they can’t walk. Im sure that all these people who say they “fight” with their friends can walk after.
Play fighting is fun, but was lucy and Mike do is not play fighting
Voice December 2, 2011, 1:10 AM EST.
Taeshi, I feel like, perhaps, you are misreading some of the sentiment of the supposed “abuse-sympathisers”. Abuse is not okay. Hitting your significant other to cause a black eye isn’t right. But, at the beginning of this comic, which is where most people read from, the fighting, yelling, and hitting was for comedic affect.
Now, the comedy of it, displaying a rough kind of relationship between two friends, is being shifted to a more serious light. We still see it as two friends just going at each other, which a lot of people do. Lucy represents a lot of people, and their way of friendship. She has a tendency to be a bit out of control and wild with her temper, which many people are, especially in childhood.
And, that’s another key point. For the most of this, both of them were children. Lucy, pretty honestly, didn’t know any better, and no one tried to make her change. Now, it’s all getting hit at her all at once, after her trying to be better. It’s hard for some of us to take.
I have little to no problems with Sandy. I can understand her distress, but I can also see how it could be overreacting, especially since Mike was dishing it back out at Lucy. Mutual abuse is still not good, but it was that.
I don’t think, most of the time, their relationship was abusive. It went into that territory sometimes, but I don’t think that was the entirety of their relationship, at least to the point of hate. Especially since Mike never tried to talk to her about it, or asked her to change. He liked the way she was.
Mistakes were made on both sides. I just think that, perhaps, you’re using too strong of terms for people leaving their thoughts on your site. However, it is your site, and you have every right to see things as you want, and say what you want. I respect that. I just wanted to try and explain it how I see it. Out of control children, who made mistakes, like many children are wont to do.
Something Witty December 2, 2011, 1:11 AM EST.
… Sandy does make sense
Pepe December 2, 2011, 1:11 AM EST.
its a flashback
Voice December 2, 2011, 1:11 AM EST.
Wow I never really thought of Lucy’s slapping and kicking and punching as abuse I mean it always seems playful. I understand Sandy’s posistion shes powerless to help someone she loves that is being treated badly and I think the fact that Mike is so calm and causual about it only makes it worse. This is probably my favorite page so far its very emotional and the way Sandy’s face is hidden kinda strikes me in a weird way not bad but it feels almost ominous. Thank you Taeshi
Dawnest December 2, 2011, 1:12 AM EST.
Lucky you and your book selling, Taeshi. Maybe you could finish the book series before selling them. I like the story but it sounds a little like Sandy wanted to get rid of her in the first place to keep Mike.
WhoCares December 2, 2011, 1:12 AM EST.
there is a an age past witch the aggressive, punchy “I feel things about you so I beat you up” behavior just ceases to be cute.
Fruvous: A: with the vibration setting I would think.
kaze December 2, 2011, 1:13 AM EST.
I’m not sure why some people have said Sandy is being made into a weak character. So far she seems intelligent and capabale to me.
Note that atm this conversation is a flashback farther into the past, Sandy is younger. Now personally, if I knew about a situation where someone I loved was being abused but was putting up with it out of blind loyalty, I’d be angry and go and do something about it. Probably deck the person doing it.
But, if I was that young and I could understand that situation and pick up on what’s going on while being at a ‘long distance location’ there’s two things I would do. The first is try to talk to that person I loved and hopefully get them to see sense. Sandy is right, what Lucy does to Mike is not something a decent friend would do (I realise relationships between friends can be rough sometimes but there’s a point and there are also realisations and apologies that are needed). The second thing I would do is worry and probably feel terrible and sad that I can barely help the person I love.
@Taeshi: I was planning on commenting on this to, but you beat me to it. Totally agree.
Woo, first post from the shadows. Hi everyone.
*edited some curses
AlphaShadow December 2, 2011, 1:13 AM EST.
Taeshi-san’s mad for us not seeing it was a flashback lol
Anyways, people are madly taking Lucy’s side, it’s not like they approve abuse, really…
Still, not showing Sandy’s eyes too often… that’s usually when the author wants to give that character a ‘bad’ look, or at least suspicious…
Anyways, I like the current development. Nice.
Lyucs December 2, 2011, 1:14 AM EST.
I dunno. In my experience, friends hurt each other sometimes, so its not a big deal to some people. But if Mike just tells Sandy about every time Lucy kicks him or whatever, then ya you kind of wonder whats going on. Unless its like, if he mentions Lucy then Sandy says something like, she hurts you and treats you like crap. Then it may be that shes jealous of a girl that spends so much time with him. Who knows, thats why gotta keep reading lol hopefully Lucy doesnt do something silly out of depression
Tutufu December 2, 2011, 1:15 AM EST.
Not enough Meta.
Ranger December 2, 2011, 1:15 AM EST.
Aspear December 2, 2011, 1:16 AM EST.
hmmmm im starting to get it a little. granted, i still hate mike but i can see how Sandy could have switched his view on lucy. I’m not sandy bashing, from her perspective i probably would have said the same thing.
HOWEVER i never never never saw make say “stop hitting me” or “hitting me is hurting our realtionship” then if she didn’t stop she would have grounds of hating her. but hes just a passive aggressive pick so -_-
T_T December 2, 2011, 1:16 AM EST.
Something Witty: I can understand rough-housing and just kidding around, but when people see Mike LIMPING and having trouble walking and going “Oh that Sandy is just being overreactive!”, I just have to question their sympathy. I think it’s really just excuses to hate on Sandy.
Taeshi December 2, 2011, 1:16 AM EST.
Hm…. Would Mike trust Sandy’s concerns and judgement of Lucy? He knows Lucy very well, and it might be a matter of things that just finally add up rather than Sandy being the only influencing matter on this….
Infini December 2, 2011, 1:17 AM EST.
Sandy’s reactions are sensible for a concerned partner to display, and yes she probably is expressing them more due to a sheltered life. However, I don’t think any outside intervention is going to solve Mike and Lucy’s issues. Advising them to end the friendship is not fair until they have had time to talk it out. Nothing but shouting has commenced thus far. They both appear to want to be each other’s friends, and have many common interests. The romantic tension is the only thing causing their anger. I’ve been in a situation similar to this before when I had a friend that an was in love with who didn’t love me back. You sort of put subtle hints out here and there and generally pry for their affection. When the other does not pick up on these however and you boil over trying to figure out what to do in the scenario you start to mentally and emotionally decay. Every little flaw on their part infuriates you, as it adds to harsh feeling of being unnoticed. Eventually you don’t even know who really did what and who is to blame for the problems. I’m still not sure exactly what type of person she is, as I don’t know if the abuse I felt she was forcing onto me was real or all in my head. Eventually, she announced one more minor thing that I would be okay with for anyone else and is actually something I’m usually quite vocal about my activism for it. It was comoletely hypocritical, and it still holds a tarnished reputation on my character and is one mistake I always wish I could take back. We fought and constantly ended and rejuvenated our friendship. Currently we’ve come to avoid sensitive topics and just try to have fun. Tension occasionally arrises, but we’ve made it work for the most part. What I’m saying s I was more or less in Lucy’s place in real life and I did sone stupid ****. Lucy’s actions are understandable, in fact, she’s handling it a hell of a lot better than I did. They should try to work it out before ending the friendship. I’m concerned for Lucy though, as while both Mike and Susan could probably find someone else, Lucy seems to emotionally damaged to have much of a chance with anyone else. Of course, I still am a MikexLucy fan, and am hoping that they end up together. The fact that it is so unlikely is actually why I like it. You can look in and see all the mistakes being made and can easily see what could have been done to fix it. High School drama ends up poorly all to often in reality. I’d like to see a happy ending for everyone for just this once.
Zalanort December 2, 2011, 1:18 AM EST.
I do understand why Sandy is acting the way she is, but the “Do you love her?” comment just seems a bit….off. Clearly she doesn’t like Lucy’s abusive actions against Mike, but I wonder if there’s more to it. Like perhaps, jealousy?
Pinki December 2, 2011, 1:19 AM EST.
I wonder how she would react to everyone else treating mike like a buttmonkey?
Fu-Rank December 2, 2011, 1:20 AM EST.
Thank you Taeshi, I honestly think that its really just and excuse to not blame lucy for things. Lucy fans are not used to lucy being at fault so they are trying any excuse possible to find that she is not in the fault.
Also im sorry that no one is getting that this is a flashback even though it is very obvious T_T since you know you put it in the comment section multiple times
Voice December 2, 2011, 1:21 AM EST.
@Taeshi: I understand that any girl would be upset if her boyfriend is getting hurt but she feels helpless at the situation, but I don’t think Kiwi’s intention was to condone abuse ^^;
Some people would find Sandy annoying, while others think she’s overreacting a bit (I believe Mike certainly thinks so), while I personally (due to my own paranoia and personal experience) suspect she might be borderline obsessed. But “to each their own” as they say.
Where I’m going with this is that as an author/artist, regardless of how top of the line your works are (and believe me I freaking love your work), you gotta be prepared to read/hear something that you may not like regarding it as long as your audience has the ability to comment. It is unpleasant at times but regardless of the situation I don’t think it’s a good thing to attack your audience (intentionally or not).
Not trying to make a point or anything, just wanted to throw that out there.
Chiba December 2, 2011, 1:21 AM EST.
I gotta sympathize with Sandy - there really is nothing worse in a long-distance relationship than hearing about bad things happening to your loved one, and being too far away to really help them. (@Dragnite, you feel the same way? *BROFIST*) Seems like she might be a wee bit jealous too, if she was asking whether he loves Lucy or not!
At the same time, the lack of showing Sandy’s face IS kind of ominous… after all, DO we know Sandy very well? IS she this vision of perfection that Mike paints and perceives, or is there something absolutely no one knows about her yet? I’m not saying she’s evil, just that there could be something we’re not expecting.. if that makes sense. ^_^;
Oh the waiting is so agonizing! Must have answers! Still holding on to the hope that the power of Friendship will win out in the end of it all… though it may be bittersweet! *gnaws handkerchief*
Ryuko December 2, 2011, 1:21 AM EST.
I completely understand where you’re coming from, and there are some people thinking that. But, for a lot of us, it’s difficult to tell anyone at fault versus not. Is Lucy at fault for being out of control? Is Mike at fault for not telling her these things and trying to help their relationship? Is Sandy at fault for driving a wedge, albeit accidentally?
For me, if it had gotten to this point in a relationship, it’s time to speak up and talk about it, not ignore it, especially if it’s causing such strife. Lucy is, honestly, over the line sometimes. But, even though in high school, 9th grade mentality is still very childlike. It could have been stopped, especially given how important Mike is to Lucy.
No one person is at fault, and no one person is solely an innocent. And, many people want it to be that simple. Please try to have patience with them. This is a very emotional chapter, and I think this attests to your ability as a creator. People aren’t the most logical when they get riled like this, especially when they are overlaying their own emotions with that of the characters.
Chiba: I understand and agree with your post, about different takes on the same portrayals. Everyone interprets these things differently.
Something Witty December 2, 2011, 1:23 AM EST.
I still believe that Mike is just over reacting a little
But in a way, he has a right to, right?
I don’t know anymore
tHe PuRpLe ShAdOw December 2, 2011, 1:24 AM EST.
… **** Sandy… you’re spoiled -___-
Nadss December 2, 2011, 1:27 AM EST.
Wow… Sandy is really…emotional…?
End December 2, 2011, 1:28 AM EST.
I think there’s been a major misunderstanding between fans here (at least from my point of view) So, I’ll try to explain myself the best I can:
I do understand Lucy’s actions towards Mike had been abusive in the past. But she had a mountain of issues back then and it was the only way she knew to socialize. It’s still WRONG, but she didn’t know it back then.
I also understand why Mike would be tired of it.
And why Sandy would be concerned.
BUT i’m also seeing people here are encasing in the SAME ARGUMENTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN so, let’s clarify (again, from my pont of view)
I’m not upset at Mike for standing up from himself, I just don’t like the way he’s dealing with it; Lucy now has her guard down, and she’s trying to change and make things better, then Mike goes and smashes her emotionally with all he has. Defending yourself is fair. Kicking the other while they’re on the floor is not.
Also, people, the point here is NOT whether readers hate Sandy or not. What most people has been saying is that yes, it’s perfectly normal to get upset when someone is hurting your boyfriend. However, it’s NOT normal to start crying and screaming hysterically over it. And yes, she IS crying and screaming, unless I’m epically misinterpretting the capital letters and streams of water running down her face.
(And I’m only saying this because the comments section goes something like this:
Commenter A: “oh Sandy, you shouldn’t react so dramatically! calm down”
Commenter B: “Y U HATE SANDY?? she’s been a better girlfriend!!”
Commenter C: “Sandy is such a Mary Sue!! D=< I hate her!”
Long post is long. Phew!
Flying Potato December 2, 2011, 1:30 AM EST.
I really find Sandy kind of… Childish and immature.. Granted she is a child soooo . But in all seriousness, she needs to understand that friends do get rough often and whatnot.
Blarg :D December 2, 2011, 1:31 AM EST.
Aw… she is right though. Lucy is a real jerk to Mike. But guy buddies ARE jerks to each other! It’s kinda tough
nalem December 2, 2011, 1:34 AM EST.
Pinki: She asked if Mike loves her because of what she said next.. because he seems to defend her actions mercilessly even if it causes him a great pain.
Fu-Rank: The difference is that Mike would say that Paulo is a pain and irritating, like is pretty conscious and active about that, however with Lucy he abnormally defends her. I think that’s pretty warranted for a girlfriend to get suspicious over. “Wow you really seem to care a lot about this girl..”
Chiba: I am confused about what you mean. If they have the ability to call Sandy a scared little girl who isn’t a good character, I think I have the right to call their observation short-sighted and sympathetic of people who get abused. Maybe that could cause people to reconsider their point or write it in a way that sounds more fair and balanced rather than just “rarewwrrr sandy is just sooo evul and terribul!!” I mean it’s promoting good discussion now, from both sides.
Something Witty: I definitely agree with you there! I don’t mean to imply that there’s one character fully in the right, I just think the complete and utter protection of Lucy’s actions versus calling Sandy a manipulative oversensitive bitch to be.. very black and white. Especially when it’s clearly causing Mike a lot of pain. Frankly, they’re all stupid. Nobody is perfect, not even Sandy.
Tbh i am throwing statements out to encourage people defending themselves rather than being all Sandy-mob. I mean as I said before, it really is promoting some pretty good points!!
Taeshi December 2, 2011, 1:35 AM EST.
You know what Mike, you irritating moron, you deserve every bit of what is coming you way.
FurryForlife December 2, 2011, 1:37 AM EST.
Still think Sandy is “too good” for her own good. While I see her point that friends can be mean to each other and abusive, this is by no means a new thing. My girlfriend, who’ve I’ve been seeing for 4 years now, and have known for 10 or so, had a relationship like what Mike & Lucy have. we worked it out, and after realizing that we really cared about each other began going out steadily and we haven’t looked back.
Yes, Lucky has been a HUGE tool and been terrible to Mike, I get that, really.
But she still cares about him, and not just on a “OMFG-I-WANNA-HAS-YOU” scale. Let us forget not the “drowning” arc and the whole pool episode (conveniently located in the “Remember When” section”) where she was so worried for him she had a panic attack and collapsed. She might not know how to successfully express her feelings, but that doesn’t make them any less legitimize or valid.
Mike, while being the victim here, has to learn to get over his grudge and be a man about it.
You want to hate Lucy? Fine. Cool. God speed. But you BREAK IT TO HER GENTLY you moron.
It’s OK to not like someone and resent them, but be a GENTLEMAN and do it right.
Still hoping for MikeXLucy eventually, else that poor girl is going to either mass murder Sandy and Mike, or make-out with a revolver. Or both.
Hang in there, kitty-cat.
Neko December 2, 2011, 1:38 AM EST.
I wasn’t much of a fan of sandy before, but this isn’t helping.
Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate her, I don’t think she’s evil, but the way she has been reacting to what mike tells her of Lucy makes her seem a tad bit naive and a little too idealistic, being unable to comprehend an argument and/or a little roughhousing occurring between friends. although this does make some sense, seeing as how she and daisy were best friends at one point. but then again, this is merely an assumption on my part, pieced together from the information given up to this page. I look forward to seeing what else could be revealed in coming pages, perhaps my opinion is subject to change.
randomguy228 December 2, 2011, 1:39 AM EST.
I like how Sandy is suggesting that Lucy isn’t a real friend but I doubt she knows the full story
In all honesty she should be berating Mike as well as Lucy
From Mike’s perspective Lucy is quite abusive and resorts to violence quite a lot and is generally clingy
From Lucy’s perspective He is the only “friend” she ever had and he wishes to be real friends but he is being an ******* about it
My Perspective They’re as bad as each other;; Lucy was quite abusive to Mike but it was the only way she knew to be a “friend”, doesn’t excuse her treatment towards Mike.(Although in later “arcs” she mellows out)
Mike almost completely ignored/neglected Lucy (effectively making her “friendless”) when Sandy was still around. When Sandy left he went back to Lucy as though nothing happened. Lucy insisted that she was better off alone but Mike refused to leave her be. In this arc he complains how he was her babysitter, that she was the cause of all his problems and generally being “holier than thou”. Well he seems completely oblivious to the fact that he brought it on himself.
Now given the current situation if Sandy was to drop contact with Mike he WILL crawl back to Lucy as if nothing happened, hopefully Lucy will reject him
Russia December 2, 2011, 1:39 AM EST.
all hail Taeshi-sama and her incredibly good points! =D
BTW… I really hope David appears soon to relieve some of all this tension, it’s killing me TT-TT
Flying Potato December 2, 2011, 1:40 AM EST.
And then 100 pages later of this drama Lucy and Mike realize that this is just the wrong dimension and so they return to the cat nebula where they can fight evil clam aliens together as friends…shazing
LeLucySheIsMagnifique December 2, 2011, 1:42 AM EST.
She has a point, Mike wouldn’t put up with it so often if he didn’t have some sort of feelings for Lucy. That in turn makes Mike feel guilty, and the guilt would cause sudden and irrational outburst of rage. Sandy meanwhile is feeling hurt because she believes Mike is betraying her by having feelings for another girl, and she’s trying to make sense of it all. My guess is that Sandy will offer an ultimatum that will force Mike to essentially stop being friends with Lucy.
Xenos December 2, 2011, 1:42 AM EST.
Sounds like a good plan, Le Lucy. time for some serious “Surrealist” moments. anyone else think so?
Neko December 2, 2011, 1:44 AM EST.
Honestly? Sandy isn’t doing anything wrong, she’s showing concern which is what a good girlfriend would do.
Zuzu December 2, 2011, 1:44 AM EST.
It is, indeed, bringing out more complete thoughts in people, which is very valuable, much more so than the usual comments. I suppose it’s silly to worry about people getting offended by your statements. You’re fully aware of what could happen.
In my opinion, they’re all just being short sighted kids, which happens. Sandy is, to me, overreacting a little, with the screaming. And, while I understand her asking “Do you love her”, it seems emotionally manipulative to me, especially for young ones in their first relationship, and a long distance one at that. But, she has every right, and should be concerned for someone she loves. She sees things differently than some people, which is all right.
Mike wants her and Lucy to be happy, leaving himself at risk. But, he had to choose eventually, and he chose to make Sandy happy. I think, if he had tried talking this out with Lucy first, a lot of this would have been avoided. But, talking about feelings and relationships isn’t always the first thought on the minds of people, especially when they are emotionally charged.
I understand Lucy the most, because i was very much like her growing up. I rambled on this a page or two ago, i won’t repeat it here. Needless to say, her actions were sometimes over the top, but it’s often hard to change yourself as a person, especially when no one informs you you’re wrong. It took me years to change, and that was with gentle guidance from my best friend, who put up with all manner of insanity.
Mike didn’t deserve the abuse, but Lucy doesn’t really deserve this sort of emotional mauling back. Two wrongs and all that. Mike is very emotional and I worry his actions will come back to haunt him, especially because things like what he’s done can often shut down a person. No one is in the clear, yet no one is in the wrong. You’ve made a very intricate, and emotionally confusing, comic. Good work!
Something Witty December 2, 2011, 1:45 AM EST.
OMG Second to last panel WHERE IS HER TAIL? AHHHHH
Vincent December 2, 2011, 1:46 AM EST.
Okay. I’m getting really annoyed by all these comments about how Lucy is changing, she’s changing. Sandy shouldn’t be like that blahblahblah. This is a flash back, to when Lucy was SERIOUSLY immature. Sure, Sandy might seem a bit childish in the last page but they are children.
Everyone is just defending Lucy now because we have seen her growth and story. Sandy hasn’t! If we were in her position I don’t see why we wouldn’t be mad at Lucy when we can’t do anything about it.
Jade December 2, 2011, 1:46 AM EST.
I just realized something. Remember how we were all really confused by Mike’s guilty expression after playing video games with Lucy a couple pages back? I don’t think he was guilty about being nice to Lucy, he was guilty because he probably felt like he was going behind Sandy’s back. If I remember correctly, he was looking at his phone remorsefully.
And I don’t mean “Going behind Sandy’s back” like cheating on her with Lucy emotionally, but by doing something he knows will upset Sandy. This page is showing exactly how badly Lucy’s physicality hurts Sandy. And Mike, being a good guy- a deeply caring guy- doesn’t want to hurt Sandy, especially considering Sandy is his girlfriend. Hell, Sandy has been the one girl he always wanted to be with since he can really remember.
Mike is caught in the worst kind of position, and I think he’s doing what is the right thing to and for him. The right thing for him, in his mind, is to keep his girlfriend happy, to protect himself from a perceived threat (being Lucy), and to eliminate said threat from his life. Don’t forget how young he is, people are easily swayed by others in all aspects of life so long as the other opinion is stronger than their own.
IN CONCLUSION, I suck at conclusions. But now at least I think I have a good understanding on why Mike has been acting how he is. Sometimes does he step over the line? Oh my goodness, yes. However, trying to see things from his perspective has definitely made me far more willing to defend him.
(And for the record, I still love Lucy to death. I honestly prefer her over Sandy, but that’s mostly because I relate to Lucy more.)
The end. c:
Sabe December 2, 2011, 1:47 AM EST.
Edit@Vincet: She’s facing forwards. **** mine…
SushiJaguar December 2, 2011, 1:48 AM EST.
Sadny is too ignorant about Mike and Lucy… no, I’m not saying she’s STUPID, I’m saying she lacks certain knowledge about that situation, she needs to calm down, hold her tongue, and just let Michael handle it. Instead of trying to be all propaganda girl on his *** about her hurting him.
Because of that, to appease to Sandy Michael foolishly razes everything he has…well… had, with Lucy.
They could have been friends, and they technically still were. Sandy just had to say the wrong things, and that set the wheels in motion.
Keep it up guys, love this comic ALOT!
tony December 2, 2011, 1:48 AM EST.
Oh never mind, that is a front view. Back to front, I am too tired to understand
Vincent December 2, 2011, 1:49 AM EST.
Taeshi: You have to understand that while you have this all figured out in your head, and probably have for a while now, this concept of ‘abuse’ is completely new to us readers in the context of Mike and Lucy’s friendship. You never portrayed their roughhousing as abuse, and never made it appear that Mike was at all physically affected by it in any serious way. Now all of a sudden it is ‘abuse’ and the whole time Mike was apparently suffering from it. Berating us ‘abuse-sympathizers’ is not only unwarranted, but completely unnecessary.
KiwiKoala December 2, 2011, 1:49 AM EST.
I dunno Blarg, to cause that kind of pain? Sure, friends sometimes get rough, but this is kinda pushing it.
ZoeStellan December 2, 2011, 1:50 AM EST.
2nd to last panel reaction: dat a$$- oh, wait thats her legs from the front of her
paulosawesome December 2, 2011, 1:50 AM EST.
Too much drama. Bring the Abbey/Daisey good feelings back. :’(
Blur December 2, 2011, 1:51 AM EST.
you know i almost get the feeling that Sandy has been witnessing some domestic abuse on her end that she can’t do anything about (like her mom or something but not her then again maybe her….donno) but her reaction seems to strong for just an “outsider” and this page just makes my suspicions stronger…
Luna December 2, 2011, 1:52 AM EST.
While I understand why Sandy is concerned, it is a bit silly in a way (at least in my opinion). I had friends that fought each other with swords in high school for fun. Kids do things that are dangerous with each other, for fun even, especially guys. I am not saying that going around and hitting someone is okay, but if the other person doesn’t freak out at it and tell you no, how are you supposed to know? For Mike to suddenly come out and freak over how Lucy has been acting is not fair to her. It is out of the blue and a nasty way to do it. Also, Sandy seems to be pushing her emotions onto Mike here, which is not a good thing. She also doesn’t seem to be listening to what Mike thinks about the situation in the first place, which makes me think that he originally was okay with it. I do wonder a bit about her background, as her freaking out over someone getting slightly injured is a bit unusual. All in all, I think Mike is going about this in a totally jerky way. It is alright to say that you don’t like how someone is behaving and that you want that behavior to stop. To suddenly say that you totally hate a person, especially when you were just having fun with them, because of their previous behavior which you did not protest much about is just dumb. It seems to me that Mike wants to purposefully burn bridges with Lucy, for whatever reason, and I hope that it also burns him with his other friends as well (that they will stand up for Lucy) as it will show him that it isn’t the proper way to do things.
Facepalm December 2, 2011, 1:52 AM EST.
*throws hat into ring*
This seems more like a case of uber-subjectivity from an observer’s standpoint rather than an objective case of morality. The problem is that you can’t objectively debate whether or not Sandy’s point of view is morally correct/incorrect because you’re inherently going to be biased based on your own personal experiences, be this based on your environment, how you were raised, if you were raised, what literature you’re exposed to, etc.
A truly objective debate would be more along the lines of a psychology course than a “Sandy is a good/bad person”. For example, Freud would probably say something about Sandy wanting to bone her mom*.
Now, there HAVE been some arguments back and forth about the moral fitness of some of the posters on this forum.
The issue then is: are you trying to treat this as an objective case to the best your ability
AND are you deliberately wording your posts to sound as neutral as possible
AND are you or are you not attacking any one person who is on this site (Administrator or otherwise).
If the answer is “yes” to any of the above, then I would argue that you are, at least, out of line in this forum. HOWEVER, I would ALSO ARGUE that this does NOT SPEAK TOWARDS THE MORAL FITNESS OF THAT INDIVIDUAL.**
And now, the obligatory stance:
I’d argue that Sandy’s upbringing and career as a teen-model has left her ill-prepared to seriously consider a less-than-cordial familiar relationship between two individuals. It is probably due to her background that she possesses a romanticized view of what friendship and romance should be, and Mike’s sweet-boyfriend mentality is probably backing up that claim. Ergo, Sandy’s reaction is understandable and highly probable.
I’d also argue that Maishul is overreacting just a tad***. “Hate” is a bit of a strong word, especially given how Mike SHOULD know that Lucy’s emotions are mostly made of crystallized sugar. I also doubt that he actually “hates” Lucy. I personally would have expected their relationship to reach a more Mike vs. Paulo state, leaving Lucy without an emotional ground but also not shattered upon the ground.
Incidentally, yes, I do in fact feel that Lucy is getting her emotional *** kicked around. Not the point here, not going to argue it.
So those are my thoughts. Feel free to troll away.
*Psychology majors: Just Kidding, yo.
**All caps to really make sure you get this point.
Bambalooza December 2, 2011, 1:53 AM EST.
@Taeshi: I completely understand what you mean, but an author shouldn’t attack their precious audience. When it comes to what I put out there whether someone thinks its great, thinks it blows, or says something that just completely confounds me, I’m just happy to get some kind of feedback. For better or worse, a producer is nothing without their consumers.
And if all that I’m saying just now is a bit pretentious, then by all means disregard.
Chiba December 2, 2011, 1:56 AM EST.
Oh boy flashbacks. Sandy appears quite concerned. I wonder if she will meet Lucy when she comes over and if she’ll have anything to say to her, because obviously she doesn’t have a very good image about her.
TehLulzinator December 2, 2011, 1:56 AM EST.
Sandy you child.
no i am not a Sandy hater, i just believe she is being a child, she should trust mike can work this out himself, and I’m sick of the all the people saying “oh your just a sandy hater!” when really sandy is being a child and you idiots are failing to recongnize that so you become confused and just call us sandy haters
Aries December 2, 2011, 1:58 AM EST.
Talking on the phone at 9:38 PM?! THE FIENDS!
Blueeyes December 2, 2011, 2:01 AM EST.
Sandy’s reaction is completely warranted, I think. Lucy is constantly beating Mike up, sometimes to the point of bleeding, and people think this is “just rough housing”. Seriously, while I rough house with friends, when arguing, I would think that the “playful hitting” would be put aside - particularly when black eyes, bleeding, and kicking to the point of limping is involved. Since she doesn’t know Lucy, Sandy came to a very logical explanation of the abuse that Mike puts up with: that Mike may just possibly like Lucy. Why else would someone put up with that much crap from someone of the opposite sex unless they had some kind of feelings for them? If it was a guy, sure, you can attribute it to “male bonding”, but it’s a girl that Mike presumably talks about…a lot. I would like to know more about this relationship if I were Sandy, too.
Someone mentioned way back in the comments that Mike should stay with Lucy because if Lucy becomes unhinged, she might do something stupid like hurt herself. Oddly enough, this is a tactic that many abusers use to keep their victims with them. They threaten to kill themselves, to hurt themselves, and so forth to guilt the other to stay with them. Other abusers, as Taeshi mentioned, beat the snot out of their sig others, then apologize later, and make up only to beat the snot out of them later anyways. This is NOT okay. Very rarely do victims do anything about it, too. Many keep silent, saying that “he didn’t mean it”, or “this is just his nature”.
If the roles were switched, and Mike was the temperamental one who truly loves Lucy, but beat her all the time for stupid little reasons, nobody - and I mean NOBODY - would support him, no matter how much he loves her. I’m presuming people are forgiving Lucy because she’s a girl and that she can’t hurt Mike physically as much as a boy - but according to the damage Mike is shown to take, she apparently dishes it out as badly as any guy. I’m in absolute shock that people support Lucy as much as they do. In the Acapulco arc pages 4-8, Zach really summed Lucy up perfectly - obsessed, and in dire need of help.
KttyKat16 December 2, 2011, 2:04 AM EST.
Food for thought, the only person Lucy is ever violent towards is Mike. You see her hit some guys for hitting on her or causing hassle, but she’s not really assaulted anyone outside of Mike really (though she did slap Rachel at the sleepover)
Besides that, it’s not like it’s something Lucy CAN’T control. She would never dare hit Yashy or any of her other pets. She didn’t even land a scratch on Paulo after finding out out about his sleeping around. Yet she’s so used to kicking Mike about that she still does it regardless. In part because Mike had simply accepted it up till now and because with him it was supposedly okay, I guess he let himself be the punchbag out of guilt.
Maybe at one point the rekindled relationship actually worked, but it was based on a groundwork of guilt and resentment to begin with. Plus Mike just really was looking to subsitute the Sandy shaped void to begin with. Its not a healthy relationship at all, and unfair on both characters.
Maybe without Mike to abuse anymore, it’ll help Lucy grow to become a better person, in order to prevent losing anyone else. Besides that, she has a small growing base of friends anyway - so she won’t be entirely on her own this time
Jennytablina December 2, 2011, 2:04 AM EST.
Sandy looks really creepy in this page… Kinda like the witch from L4D
Blackstar117 December 2, 2011, 2:05 AM EST.
SOMEBODY’S jealous… Well, this makes everything pretty much clear now. Sandy thinks the only reason he has to put up with Lucy’s violence is if he loved her. Long-distance relationships never work out well…
Perhaps he already told Sandy that he ditched Lucy to calm her down, and now he has to get rid of her before Sandy arrives.
CatTrooper December 2, 2011, 2:08 AM EST.
Would you mind if I asked if you meant it to be taken as abuse?
There’s a lot of factors involved.
For starters, in the past it’s been used for a sort of comidic slap-stick humor, so it’s hard to tell the context.
By the same token, because of the artstyle and format, it can be difficult to tell the severity of injuries. Was Mike’s leg actually bleeding in that last flashback? With many artists, a similar red mark might have simply indicated pain or just soreness…
And finally, a lot of friends engage in “roughhousing”, usually resulting in injuries that do nothing but sting a little at worse, (but occationally result in injuries a little more serious when somebody accidentailly goes too far, which is probably why it’s not the best idea to begin with.)
All that taken into consideration, it’s no surprise there are a lot of different interpretations among the readers.
someguy December 2, 2011, 2:10 AM EST.
TO ALL MIKEXLUCY PEOPLE: Stop being such asses. From Sandy’s perspective, this Lucy person is abusive. And, well, Lucy WAS abusive, as well as being a total bitch. Thankfully, she’s done a little bit of growing up, and she is no longer punching people for commenting that she’s in love with Mike. Sandy is overracting a little by bursting into tears, but her concerns are legitimate. Try to think from her point of view for a minute before you scream “STOP OVERREACTING YOU STUPID BITCH”.
fnord December 2, 2011, 2:10 AM EST.
ehh… I dont hate Sandy as much anymore cuz she cares SUPA much about Mike that she bursted into tears when Mike told her his MANY stories of getting abused by Lucy… but I still luv Mike x Lucy more then Mike x Sandy
Valentines Day December 2, 2011, 2:15 AM EST.
Not all MikeXLucy people think Sandy is overreacting, or that she’s a bad person. Just like not all MikeXSandy, or LucyXPaulo, or whatever other ship, think other characters are bad. It’s a select group. Please don’t yell at everyone who supports that relationship over a few others. It just makes people angry, and makes people not want to support you.
I appreciate your sentiments, but insults and swearing and generalizations aren’t helpful to anyone. This is not just at you, but at all the commentors who are just blindly freaking out and yelling, so please don’t take this as an attack. You have valid points. Perhaps you could just express them in a way that isn’t so antagonistic.
Something Witty December 2, 2011, 2:16 AM EST.
This isn`t hard to understand. Sandy is stating how a real friend would never hurt another friend. And Mike is taking this into thought. Its like Sandy`s teaching him a lesson. If Mike said that Lucy`s just a friend and HE hurt Lucy. Mike is feelin the burn.
Haiku December 2, 2011, 2:19 AM EST.
Oh..oh… looks like “SOMEBODY’S ” JEALOUS … What will she do next? I hope there’s a fight between you know and you know who….
D December 2, 2011, 2:20 AM EST.
By the way, guys, I’m totally insane.
Watch me slaughter Lucy on Monday!
Sandy December 2, 2011, 2:20 AM EST.
Lights off! There’s a witch around here somewhere. =3
Chillent December 2, 2011, 2:21 AM EST.
You go, girl! It’s about time someone told Mike the ropes.
In the second-to-last panel, i thought that was showing her from behind for a moment. I thought her knees were her butt. I was like “o.e …Nicki Minaj?”
StarSturdy December 2, 2011, 2:22 AM EST.
I think all of the OMG SANDY SO SENSITIVE comments are only justified by the way Lucy’s behavior has been portrayed… It’s always been for comedic purposes, and just a personality trait of hers.
Had she been more blatantly brutalizing Mike, or even been made to be a less likable character, Sandy’s concern might come off as less extreme.
Sandy is right, though. Lucy gets away with it around her friends, who are used to it, while Sandy can see from an outside POV that Lucy’s behavior is not normal and potentially dangerous to her boyfriend.
It might help to simply put yourself in her shoes, sandy-haters. what would you do if someone you cared about dearly was reporting every night that their friend was repeatedly treating them that way, and you were too far away to do anything about it? What a helpless and frustrated way to feel, hm? :’(
Deftinwolf December 2, 2011, 2:28 AM EST.
I don’t think she’s really overreacting - she is right, friends don’t do that. But, I do think she sounds awfully childish. “Did you tell the teacher?!” And bursting out crying over this? Really? I thought she was supposed to be intelligent and high-achieving, not a five-year-old. She’s right about the way Lucy treated Mike, but she herself doesn’t sound mature enough for a relationship…
EDIT - I just want to add, I like both Lucy and Sandy. I’ve been pretty fond of Sandy since the short update about her life, she seems sweet. Also note, I’m not rooting for either one. That’s for the story to decide. I just find Sandy’s sudden immaturity to be kind of… Well, unexpected. Being very upset that your boyfriend is bullied by his so-called best friend? Sure. Crying and yelling about it? Eh…
N December 2, 2011, 2:30 AM EST.
Little mikie has been defending lucy for a very long time. I still think he went to far saying he hates lucy but he is in the right to push away. Just didn’t need to shut her out completely like that. Screaming I HATE U! That was kinda too much. So is Sandys over freaking out ness. O…..Its my Birthday! Teshie make me a bittersweetcandybowl happy birthday intermission pleeeeeeeeease!
JustSomeCritic December 2, 2011, 2:30 AM EST.
I like Mike x Lucy and I dont think Sandy’s being a stupid bitch
I know Lucy was abusive but she saved Mike so she actually cares for him.
And Sandy also cares for Mike.
So right now im all Lucy x Mike x Sandy
Valentines Day December 2, 2011, 2:30 AM EST.
Something Witty: I agree that my post could have been phrased more politely, however, polite phrasing is rarely effective. I am sure that some people will look at my post and go “Well they’re being insulting, no reason to pay attention to them”, but I am also sure that if I made a long post with softer wording and more step-by-step arguments, I am sure that the majority of the readership would ignore it completely.
Edit: I do, indeed, make it a policy to tell people when they are being asses, unless it is in a formal setting, in which case I just subtly hint at it.
fnord December 2, 2011, 2:31 AM EST.
I must admit I do find it a little funny how many people seem to dislike Mike for his actions this chapter.
Makes me wonder what they would do in the situation.
Dubs December 2, 2011, 2:33 AM EST.
Valentine’s Day: In that case, you are a reasonable person and not an ***, although my arguments still apply.
Edit: Please ignore the extra “I am sure” in my previous post. It was not my intention to put it there.
fnord December 2, 2011, 2:34 AM EST.
KiwiKoala: Then defend yourself better rather than calling Sandy a crybaby drama-vessel for caring about her boyfriend. You made a generic blanket attack at a character, a character that is sympathetic towards her boyfriend, you can’t blame me for being really shocked at your lack of regard towards her feelings and thinking she’s not strong because she’s concerned about him. And many other people have been attacking her for the same reasons rather than actually justifying their intentions.
I think it’s an awful belief that the abuse Mike received is somehow fully acceptable. I can only assume that everyone here would have different standards of what was acceptable if it was Mike causing Lucy to limp in pain, or bruise her over her body, etc. Obviously, I’ve written the comic in a way that has glossed over that, but this page and the last are supposed to start reminding you of just how bad Lucy has been, perhaps without you noticing it. It’s a shame that I am spoonfeeding that, though to be honest I hope that is clearly shown in the comic by the end of this chapter. Yet again another problem with Mon-Wed-Fri schedule.
So to make it clear, it’s fine for people to debate rough housing, but to vocally demonise Sandy for CARING ABOUT HER BOYFRIEND, I think is absolutely ridiculous. That was my beef with KiwiKoala. And to assume that Mike is perfectly fine dealing with it, when it was very apparent he wasn’t, is irritating to me because it’s a reminder of people who constantly get abused by their partners but “deal with it” so that must mean they’re “perfectly fine with it”. It’s those lines that really offended me.
Chiba, what does “an author shouldn’t attack their precious audience” mean? It seems to be that to challenge shortsighted opinions with a clear apparent bias counts as an “attack” to you. I wholly disagree with that idea. If you’d prefer me to quietly read comments that seem generally shortsighted and not post to prod those people into thinking harder, it seems that I’m going to come across as vicious to you, and there’s not much I can do about it.
Taeshi December 2, 2011, 2:36 AM EST.
Hm… I see where this is going…
Hoheh December 2, 2011, 2:37 AM EST.
I love how so many are so quick to bash Sandy and say she’s overreacting. Shada has it right; any normal and sane girl would be pretty broken up hearing her boyfriend is getting beaten up by a friend, and knowing there’s nothing she can do to help. Sandy’s reaction makes perfect sense.
Love how there’s so many people picking sides in the relationships here. What is the point exactly? It’s not like getting ****** off will magically make Taeshi change how her comic will go. It’s idiotic and pointless; Just enjoy the comic. A lot of the plot points and events are pretty easy to relate to, which I think is where a lot of the appeal of it comes from — that and the perfectly-timed comedy is what keeps me reading it at least.
Aren Kitsune December 2, 2011, 2:40 AM EST.
Y’know, I can’t believe anyone ever thought Sandy was out to get Lucy in some crazed revenge scheme. She seriously cares about Mike and the girl is beating him on a daily basis. No one should approve of that behavior towards someone they care about. NO ONE. Sandy, I don’t know how you’re going to go about this but you’re doing the right thing. Their relationship was not healthy and Mike is better off. It sucks for Lucy now but she’ll cope and grow. Go enjoy your time with Sandy, Mike, and go bang Paulo, Lucy. Get some of that angst out and try again later.
Kroth December 2, 2011, 2:42 AM EST.
I wouldn’t respond like this, that’s for sure. Especially if it’s only a personality trait of a friend. So, guy friends can beat up on one another, but if it’s a girl, it’s wrong? Me and my friends hit each other all the time. And I’ve seen friends who verbally torment one another in ways that made my jaw drop, then laugh about it two seconds later.
That being said, I feel like Sandy isn’t… Normal here. Not in a bad way, but more in another. This reaction is far too extreme for the facts given. Breaking down because of this, even accusing him of loving Lucy, all because they fight here and there? Have we ever gotten a view of Sandy’s friends? Does she even HAVE friends? Or maybe, just maybe, after moving away, Sandy became part of an abusive relationship, or a ‘friend’ who only used her to assert his own dominance and abused her. Either of these would lead to intense trauma, likely a inferiority complex and bring on, by extension, an intense reaction. That would also explain Sandy’s comment about him loving Lucy. She feels insecure and weak, not being able to be there with him, a common issue in long distance relationships where one of the two is intensely insecure… I should know. It’s why I myself can’t do long distance relationships.
People bash Lucy for her violent personality, but we all know Lucy cares about him, even if she sucks at showing it. More-so, after Mike stood up and protected Lucy after, does anyone really, truly think she doesn’t care about Mike and him about her? All Mike needed to do was sit down and talk to Lucy about this. Tell her that this violence was getting a bit childish and to tone it down, for the sake of their friendship. I’m sure if he gave Lucy the options of “Be less violent or out friendship is over” I know which route she’d take.
In the end, I don’t think anyone was entirely at fault. While Lucy’s behavior was a little extreme, I’d say Sandy may be overreacting a might bit. And I do use a might very loosely, because from her angle, it very well could seem Mike is simply taking abuse from Lucy. But all this is merely speculation on my part, a fragment of my opinion on issues in the story and a random prediction. Don’t take it too seriously, ya?
EternalOne December 2, 2011, 2:44 AM EST.
Kroth: I couldn’t have put it better myself.
And off-topic, where is Yashy? Lucy’s pets seem to be appearing less and less as the comic gets more serious.
EternalOne: Please read Taeshi’s comment on why Sandy was crying. Your theory is an interesting one, though.
fnord December 2, 2011, 2:44 AM EST.
Honestly, after having read these last two pages, I don’t really feel that much sympathy for Sandy… I don’t exactly know /what/ it is that makes me dislike her so strongly, but every time I see her in the comic, or read her dialogue, there is just something in the back of my mind that cringes…
And now, only after these two pages, there is something about Sandy that distinctly creeps me out… I think it has something to do with how suddenly she breaks into tears, and moreover how suddenly her mood seems to change… A part of it reminds me of Lucy, but with more tears and less internal conflicts…
The first time we encountered Sandy in this comic, she appeared as such a strong and individual person (albeit who aggravatingly pronounced Michael’s name wrong) and I did somewhat enjoy her character… Then she just became this problematic thing, and not just for Lucy but, as it would seem, for Mike as well… With the distance and all, and the internal conflict he faces when comparing her to Lucy…
But now, after reading these most recent pages, Sandy seems less like a strong and confident individual, and more like a weak and feable character. Most would say that it is her concern for Michael that causes her to react so strongly, but let’s be honest with ourselves (ladies): If we heard, and over the phone mind you, that another girl had gotten into a small fight with our boyfriend that resulted in a slight injury or two, would our first reaction be to burst into tears and scream at him (our boyfriend) over the phone as he attempted to explain himself..? I truly don’t think so and I, for one, would sooner react in anger or amusement (of sorts) than I would break into tears…
It all seems rather far fetched to me, and while Lucy’s actions aren’t exactly justified by any kind of troubled past (aside from the water incident, and perhaps the troubling confrontation in… well… in ‘Confrontation’ ), I have a bit of a hard time believing that it’s normal for someone to react as Sandy has… Over reacting is the word I’d like to use, even though most would say she’s only trying to help, but that’s what I see when I read her dialogue: A complete over reaction…
And more appauling than that is the fact that Sandy doesn’t seem willing to allow Mike to explain himself, or justify Lucy, at all. Even though, as he seemed to have realized time and time again in pages past (and certainly in the ‘Confrontation’ chapter), Lucy practically seems willing to die for Mike, as well as her other friends, at a moments notice…
Lucy is just confused, as it would seem, and while she certainly doesn’t have the right to treat Mike like she has, she definitely doesn’t deserve hatred… From what I’ve read so far, very few individuals in this comic deserve something as strong as hate… Not even Augstus.
Lola December 2, 2011, 2:47 AM EST.
fnord: These flashbacks take place at Mike’s house. So Yashy wouldn’t be there, since she chills at Lucy’s place. You would be right to question where Blur is, though! But tbh Blur would often hang out with Yashy :-[ Because they are top bros. So he’s either at Lucy’s house or somewhere else around the house, sick of hearing Mike and Sandy’s baby snuggle talk.
Taeshi December 2, 2011, 2:48 AM EST.
I saw, after posting.
But still, I stand by my ideals. She is worried, I understand and it actually is a moving thing, seeing how much she cares, but the level of worry is a little intense. Maybe it’s from a lack of life experience that I say that. Really, I don’t know. Then again, I need to remember this is a DRAMA COMIC.
EternalOne December 2, 2011, 2:50 AM EST.
Blur and Yashy. Bros 4 Life!
You can’t not love the pets! They’re all wonderful!
EternalOne December 2, 2011, 2:53 AM EST.
I’m going to be a compromising person because I usually am (and my GF sometimes doesn’t like that about me lol)
Sandy is a loyal, caring partner in a relationship that is only trying to help Mike realize he is being mistreated and needs to seriously re-evaluate who he allows to be near him, aka Lucy, aka miss punch-you-in-da-face girl. Sandy is a good person for doing this but I feel her suggestions is a bit too radical.
Lucy is trying to (finally) make up for all the crap she’s put Mike through and just become a friend to Mike. I admire her attempts at recovery but after years of that kind of torment, the situation will take a long time to full heal. That said, Mike is being a complete emotional dick (please excuse me) for venting all this out onto Lucy, and with this latest flashback revealing of his discussions with Sandy, his views are being manipulated by the person who he has deep emotional ties with, which only multiplies the impact of her words on him. Even if the manipulation isn’t intended, it’s occurring. And that’s probably the reason why Mike is screaming, “I hate you!” at Lucy now.
And now the seeds of destruction have been sown into a friendship that could have been saved. *sigh* This drama is amazing! Great work Taeshi.
Michael S. December 2, 2011, 2:54 AM EST.
Taeshi: I was speaking more generally, as in “We haven’t seen Yashy at all recently”, but yeah, she/he and Blur wouldn’t be at Mike’s place.
EternalOne: I can understand your point of view, and I respect your arguments.
Edit: Yashy is female, and I am an idiot. -ahem- Nothing to see here.
fnord December 2, 2011, 2:56 AM EST.
really it’s friend stuff between them it doesn’t matter what they do true friends do WHATEVER they want to one another why cause they never mean it and you’d know if they did mean what they do or say
Anima December 2, 2011, 2:58 AM EST.
It’s more panel… Four? -Checks- Well… Kinda five or six… Or eight. Where Sandy shouts. That reaction seems like the reaction of not only a concerned lover, but also a victim. Someone who has been through this and is seeing her hell from the other side.
Honestly, I know I’m likely wrong. Guessing is just half the fun, yeah?
EternalOne December 2, 2011, 2:59 AM EST.
=_________= i am starting to think Sandy is just a dramatic person who takes things over the top i mean really? REAL FRIENDS CAN BE A PAIN IN ARSE SOMETIMES. maybe most of the time
but yeeeaaa . Sandy. you are such a baby with an idol face i guess.
HellinTheCloudz December 2, 2011, 3:00 AM EST.
Anima: Yes, but Sandy doesn’t know that, as she has a limited perspective into the relationship. From her point of view, Lucy is an abusive person who hurts her boyfriend. She doesn’t know the good points of Lucy and her friendship with Mike, because Mike never mentions them, as he’d rather talk to his girlfriend about other things.
fnord December 2, 2011, 3:01 AM EST.
From what I’ve been able to tell from the entirety of the comic so far…
Lucy’s a pretty violent chick. I’ve personally had experience in this area, since my first high school crush happened to enjoy popping me in the arm/tackling me/wrestling/kicking me/etc. which was cool at the time. It wasn’t really bad or particularly painful, just a bit irritating and… all right, semi-painful at times.
I’d gloss over it without much thought since, hell, I liked her, she apparently liked me, and she was hot. Not my brightest moment in retrospect.
Now, having said that, I don’t really think it’s as terrible as Sandy is making it out to be. As I said before, Lucy’s a pretty violent chick, which is something that needs and needed to change, but it doesn’t make her worthy of hatred or being tossed aside as a friend….perhaps serious rebuke is in order. Though I can certainly understand her viewpoint on this, given her utter helplessness in the situation coupled with the blatant emotional connection between Mike and Lucy.
Mike’s overcompensating in general. He’s running with this idea that Sandy, with admittedly admirable intentions, put in his head and opting to HATE Lucy rather than be a grown up about the situation. Which is understandable, young age and all, but its still no less of an inordinate response.
Much like in life, they’re not talking through their problems, they’re just getting angry, cloistered off from one another, and propagating more unnecessary hostility. Which is par for the course, since it’s an Angst™ comic, but it’s still quite frustrating.
Gryph December 2, 2011, 3:04 AM EST.
EternalOne: You know, looking at panel six, I can see what you’re talking about. Her body language there and the panicked yell in Wednesday’s page does seem remeniscent of a past abuse victim’s potential reaction to this sort of situation. In Wednesday’s page, there was a moment right after she learned of Mike’s injury where she seemed both thoughtful and very upset, as though she was reliving something. If your theory was true, it would also add some interesting depth to the character, though we wouldn’t really know unless Taeshi said so.
fnord December 2, 2011, 3:07 AM EST.
E-yup! And personally, I hope it’s kept a secret until the last moment. That way, when all these inconsiderate people, not willing to step into the shoes of another, see a flashback arc or something, and see the abuse Sandy was put through, they’ll realize the error of their ways. Or not. After all, shippers gonna ship.
God, I need to make a picture of that now. Just… Must think up good image to put on a ship…
Maybe Mike kicking Lucy off of a ship with him and Sandy on it. Then just the words “Shippers gonna Ship” on the bottom.
Woah, I got off topic. Either way, this is a lovely development in the story. I personally cannot wait until Lucy and Sandy meet in person. If my theory is right and Sandy is the victim of some intense emotional trauma, she’ll hate Lucy rather intensely now, I assume.
EternalOne December 2, 2011, 3:12 AM EST.
Is it just me, or did anyone else here have their “School Days” early warning system go off? Because I swear I felt mine go off a little bit when reading this page…
Ignis December 2, 2011, 3:12 AM EST.
Ugh ugh ugh. I’m not a MikeXLucy shipper, I just like the comic. Er, Liked. As in, no more. I get that they’re young and it’s like a game of telephone with incidents. I don’t understand how we’re supposed to understand that it’s been “serious abuse” when it hasn’t ever been presented that way, only as rough housing. The author’s comments aren’t helping anything. I know no one’s going to care, it’s just one person, but I’m done with this comic. While the art has gotten better throughout, the writing seems to have diminished and the storyline seems to be getting forgotten left and right.
Blegh December 2, 2011, 3:15 AM EST.
Storyline? It seems to all be in order, if you ask me. Sandy is finally coming. That is the current story.
EternalOne December 2, 2011, 3:17 AM EST.
I don’t understand how they’re not helping? But if you wanna give up without even viewing the entire chapter as a whole and making your decision that way, then I can’t stop you?
Though it’s funny because before people were like WHY IS MIKE SUCH A JERK I DON’T GET IT. Now I’m explaining it, don’t see how anything is getting forgotten.
Taeshi December 2, 2011, 3:17 AM EST.
Sometimes naivety can be cute. Sandy’s naivety is just plain irritating however… Maybe it’s because I’ve dealt with people that either didn’t understand something or just plain wanted someone else outta my life, but this really doesn’t put Sandy in a good light for me.
Jessica U. Ingmann December 2, 2011, 3:23 AM EST.
Girls hitting in boys is always okay. Like an animu.
Whatever, another beautifully colored page.
Knux-the-Killer December 2, 2011, 3:24 AM EST.
wow over dramatic? Someone never heard of play hitting i see lol
Koi December 2, 2011, 3:25 AM EST.
@Ignis you mean the Anime “School Days” Right? cause if you mean that, then I completely understand what you mean…. and my god your right mine did go off as well…. I hope everything doesn’t turn out like that….
Ryou December 2, 2011, 3:25 AM EST.
EternalOne: Alright, I think you’ve converted me. Your theory is perfectly plausible, given Sandy’s behavior. I, personally, would like it to be revealed in little bits and hints (if it is indeed true), and then to have all the hints tied together in a seperate arc.
Also, the “shippers gonna ship” image should have a person standing on the prow of a boat, wearing clothes covered in pairing buttons similar to those from the store, with a determined expression on their face and the words “Shippers Gonna Ship” below them.
Blegh: Go and read everything from the viewpoint of “hitting friends/family who have not hit you or explicitly provoked you is abuse”, and then come back.
Jessica U. Ingmann: Sandy is not being naïve, she is being concerned for her boyfriend, who, from her perspective, is being abused by a “friend”.
fnord December 2, 2011, 3:30 AM EST.
Sure, Mike. Way to leave out all the **** you said to Lucy before she hit you.
Luvandia December 2, 2011, 3:30 AM EST.
So this is why Mike started being an ***. Okay. I think Sandy could win the Sheltered Princess Of The Year Award. I mean, a kick in the shin ain’t that bad and OH NOES they yelled at eachother HE MUST LOVE HER - riiight. And I think Mike is so defensive because he did love Lucy once and if he told Sandy that she’d be jealous and Mike doesn’t want that so now he hates Lucy. Or claims he does, anyway.
And then I thought about ALL the times I’ve hit my friends.. And they’ve hit me. So none of us are “Real” Friends. Your logic is invalid, Sandy, try again
I can’t wait for Monday! 8D
Cam December 2, 2011, 3:32 AM EST.
Well this clearly shows more of the situation. First i’d like to comment on the friendship matter though.
Friendships can be different in many ways, i have a friend that we call each other names, do stupid things, yet we trust each other and have a deep bond. What Mike describes is a kind of a rough friendship where all that teasing takes part, but he accepts it all, not caring much about it until someone say so. Mike and Lucy do get along quite well, this shows when they play games, behaving like in the old times.
Secondly, Sandy seems to have a really deep influence on Mike. I think we’ll see more of it soon. I will stay with the statement that Mike and Lucys relationship wasn’t too rough. It’s sometimes tough to say it so, but otherwise they wouldn’t feel good with each other for so long. Clearly Sandy (though she isn’t a bad girl) shows Mike some other point of view, influencing him to follow it all the way.
I don’t think it will be good though…
Ranadiel December 2, 2011, 3:33 AM EST.
Wow u guys notice that we havent seen sandys whole face yet we have only seen here 2 eyes and pictures without the eyes I wonder if she has a scar on here head like harry potter
dustin December 2, 2011, 3:34 AM EST.
Sandy, sandy, sandy. You pure sheltered thing. That’s just what friend do.
But you’re pretty adorable when you’re concerned, so it’s okay. I forgive you. <3
Ani December 2, 2011, 3:36 AM EST.
You have given me a goal. It shall be done… If I wasn’t a HORRIBLE artist. I can’t even draw hair. It’d look awful. Might get a friend of mine to commission it though. Just because it makes me happy.
I can’t wait to see how this story progresses. Where others see one-sided drama and pointless angst, I see possibilities behind every action and subtle cues in their words. But now it’s a lovely 3:36am here and I must be off. Goodnight! Farewell~! -floats away to my home planet-
EternalOne December 2, 2011, 3:37 AM EST.
the only thing We shall remember from this page is sandra’s finely shaped derrier
Dext December 2, 2011, 3:38 AM EST.
ok, we now jumped further ahead from the last flash back, just showing that there is a communication pattern with Mike and Sandy(which they talk about Lucy, weird). Sandy is crying because she doesn’t want the guy she likes getting hurt, makes sense, i wouldn’t want the girl i like getting hurt by somebody either. Also, she sees the mean one(Lucy) as a threat to her relationship with Mike, that has to stop. Kinda the same deal with Daisy back in the day but she wasn’t in a relationship with him, no power in what she told him. Sandy did bring up a good question with “do you like her and if not why do you stand her?” bit, so if Mike hangs with Lucy it makes Sandy feel that Mike likes her.
I’m a bit sad that Sandy’s character is now in rapid flashbacks, it’s like she will never have any real character depth to her.
can’t wait to see what happens
reader December 2, 2011, 3:41 AM EST.
I see I’m not the only one who feels that the last two pages imply something horrible may have happened to Sandy.
Mattx2 December 2, 2011, 3:42 AM EST.
Now I’m starting to think she might have actually just been jealous, in which case she’s less of a terrible person (though still terrible), but I still hate her. Actually I might hate her more.
This is awesome.
Souffrir December 2, 2011, 3:44 AM EST.
FOR NO REASON.
Cadlington December 2, 2011, 3:44 AM EST.
@Taeshi I don’t know why people are getting so upset about the flashbacks, as this goes along I’m starting to see more and more about how the pieces are fitting together (though I still don’t like Mike’s approach to confronting Lucy a few pages ago).
Also I think to call people abuse-sympathizers is going too far. It’s just people have different perceptions of the comic and the events portrayed so far. Some see it as abuse, others see it as two friends roughhousing that’s gone too far, still other see just to friends acting normally together as they always had.
OmegaB December 2, 2011, 3:47 AM EST.
@Taeshi, is this a flashback?
Seriously though, just wanted to say how awesome your writing/comics have gotten. I went back and reread a few chapters before this arc (Like… a little too many) and I can’t believe I didn’t see this coming. It’s been foreshadowed in panels for a long time! Are you a wizard? Or just really planned all this out in advanced?
The Sarcastic Spoon December 2, 2011, 3:48 AM EST.
Cadlignton: Those are her knees.
Mattx2: Her behavior certainly fits it.
fnord December 2, 2011, 3:49 AM EST.
Sandy is soooo….idk
Aoriki December 2, 2011, 3:49 AM EST.
OmegaB: once again, the name was not meant to be a sweeping statement about rough housing in general, it’s for those who demonise Sandy and call her horrible for worrying about her boyfriend, and saying that Mike seems to be “dealing with it fine.” That creates alarm bells for me, and is offensive.
It was not aimed at everyone who was rational about it, rather the ones who were all MIKE AND LUCY ARE COMPLETELY OKAY MIKE IS FINE WHY IS SANDY SUCH A WHINY BITCH
They are not stable, and anyone who thinks that are kidding themselves.
Cadlington: those are her legs, get your mind out of the gutter!
Taeshi December 2, 2011, 3:51 AM EST.
Ooooohhhh goooooodddddd, so manipulative.
I unno, some guy December 2, 2011, 3:52 AM EST.
@Taeshi Ah I see, I get it now.
OmegaB December 2, 2011, 3:54 AM EST.
I don’t hate sandy, really…but GOD she’s a cry baby
IDog December 2, 2011, 3:55 AM EST.
I hate Sandy! Will you please stop? Now I know why their friendship end up so baaad.
Aubi December 2, 2011, 3:55 AM EST.
I unno, some guy: How is Sandy being manipulative? She’s showing concern because someone she loves has been hurt. She may be overreacting a little, but the concern is genuine. Look at the panel where she is crying. She’s talking to Mike over the phone, so if she was trying to manipulate him, why would she start to actually cry? Visual effects do not carry over to sound, and making sobbing noises does not require water to run down your face. Also, her body language is that of someone who is obviously upset. Why would it be like that if she was faking emotions over the phone?
Aubi: Their friendship ended up bad because Lucy was emotionally dependant on Mike and he decided not to put up with it anymore. When Lucy did some growing up and tried to reach out to him again, he lashed out at her and pushed her away to avoid having to go through being Lucy’s comfort pillow again. Personally I think he was a bit vicious about it, but that’s a different discussion entirely.
fnord December 2, 2011, 3:56 AM EST.
Does…Sandy even have friends to compare friendships with? She seems to be getting insecure, and it seems like from more sources than just Mike…
VTDisease December 2, 2011, 3:56 AM EST.
what the hell people, how is sandy being the bad guy here?
she’s clearly concerned, and i really dont believe she’s a cry baby. she’s worried, and the fact that she can’t really do anything for mike other than ask him to please take care at that stage makes her hurt.
insensitive people >:T
milkfruit December 2, 2011, 4:10 AM EST.
No, must….resist….taeshi’s infallible logic! NOOOOOoooooooooo………. I honestly didn’t think lucy’s abuse was actually that bad and not comic humor abuse (though that may have been the case early in the comic….)poor mike. I really didn’t think it was this bad.
I hope we don’t just see the aftermath of the abuse, but get to witness the abuse that is not good and funny comic kind, because I’m interested in seeing what causes Lucy to do such things.
Deadspace II December 2, 2011, 4:13 AM EST.
And this goes to show what a little bias can do.
Apparently it’s perfectly okay to abuse someone when you dislike the person that says it’s wrong.
Keep bashing that Sandy people, can’t let her make Mike open his eyes.
ZoeStellan December 2, 2011, 4:14 AM EST.
Ohhhh alright! I get it now! Oh silly me.
Kirby Boi December 2, 2011, 4:18 AM EST.
I was gonna do a long explanation, but it think Ziur and the other white meat did a good job of explaining what i was thinking myself. so i’m gonna sit back this time and watch all sandy haters try to twist this into something it’s not so they can support their precious theorems and the sinking SS MxL. but i will digress that this is MIKE’s fault, he’s doing a pretty good job of playing the “abused and battered” friend. seriously isn’t everytime you see a battered wife their argument for being abused is “their a good person.” “you just don’t know them like i do” or “but i love them” so i definitely see, once again, where sandy is coming from, also if you look from her perspective once again her reaction is justified. seriously i don’t think she’s jealous, her emotions are based on the fact that she thinks mike is in denial (in this update) about the abuse, just like a battered housewife would be in denial about her husband.
strider December 2, 2011, 4:19 AM EST.
Honestly I want Mike to do what my boyfriend did, I was a bit of a whiny baby a bit like this and my boyfriend basically told me to grow up a bit. I’ve stopped all that nonsense now. I think Sandy really has no need to cry and is probably half doing it out of jealously and the desire for attention, but we will see…
Kite December 2, 2011, 4:22 AM EST.
Pulling the ol’ “I’m going to make you feel so bad for this character that you will never be able to hate such adorable pitiful preciousness”, are we, Taeshi? Well, it’s working… poor Sandy. 3
Meanwhile, Mike is all “Uhhmmmmmmm what do I do halp”
And Lucy… well, we’ll see.
Mocha December 2, 2011, 4:26 AM EST.
I have been here about a year now (no clue how i ended up here though) and i have to say this isnt my favorite page i dont know if its because i hate mikexsandy or that the page just doesnt flow nicely.
DinR December 2, 2011, 4:32 AM EST.
Damn you Mike! Damn YOU!
You said you hate her, and now your saying that she’s your friend. You faging cat!
Izaackjl December 2, 2011, 4:38 AM EST.
*facepalm* Izaackjl and harriso12, read the author note, taeshi says this is another flashback. just of a different time in the past
strider December 2, 2011, 4:41 AM EST.
Boy, oh boy. What is Mike really thinking and how does he really feel about all of this? Sometimes, I just don’t know what you’re thinking. So, in a nutshell, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ON?
Harris012 December 2, 2011, 4:43 AM EST.
Izaackjl and Harris012: This is a flashback. This is from BEFORE he said that he hated her.
fnord December 2, 2011, 4:43 AM EST.
Ah Flash Back, how you enjoy confusing me xD.
I’m just not liking Sandy all that much :\\ She’s over reacting to some horse play, if it had been Mike and another male he probably would have gotten a wagged finger but not cried at. Though I’m glad to see she’s not a perfect character with how she doesn’t fully understand rough housing (Though Lucy will take it too far though she has been slowly getting better) and showing her black and white view on friendship. The thing I do like about her is her boyfriend to be her as I can related on not wanting loved ones hurt.
Also, even though I love Lucy alot, She does have her problems, like going overboard when reacting to things. She just really needed someone to help her with learning different ways to control herself. If probably doesn’t help that she’s a tom boy and thinks more masculine then feminine when It comes to reacting to things. She’s learning to get better but these changes don’t happen overnight unfortunately. Lucy’s in the wrong for hurting Mike (and not catching onto her own actions) but Mike’s in the wrong for not saying everything that happened in the day as well as never telling Lucy that she was going to far. If it had been brought up earlier it could have been dealt with earlier.
If Mike had brought this up earlier to Lucy, maybe they could have worked on it… though I don’t really this Mike hates Lucy… More of strong dislike (And It’s not because I support LucyxMike ;D ) and he could have brought it up in a better way. Like ‘I do not want to be your friend anymore but I don’t want things to be awkward around our other friends so let’s be civil’. Also He really shouldn’t have brought the home work up to the bed room if he didn’t want to do any friend activities up there. Yes he would have had to deal with his family but then it wouldn’t have produced an awkward situation where Lucy tried to ease the tension. Also when Lucy commented what she did about playing a game, he could have said ‘Let’s either take this downstairs or meet at the library tomorrow.’ … But He reacting in how a child would but that too makes sense because he’s still so young. I hope that they do not lose their friendship and I also hope this doesn’t cause Lucy to do something drastic from losing who she considered her closest friend…. Also I hope for MikexLucy but I shale hope for Renewed friendship first they maybe a relationship xD.
Yume December 2, 2011, 4:51 AM EST.
MAH HOLY PREDICTION HERE:
WHEN SANDY GOES TO VISIT MIKE NEXT WEEK….LUCY WILL TRY TO BE AWAY FROM MIKE….
LUCY VS. SANDY….. CATFIGHT!!!….(my bet’s on Lucy she’s and *** slapper).
Shephard December 2, 2011, 4:53 AM EST.
Amen, i agree with what your saying on everything except i don’t think sandy’s reaction should be considered an over reaction. think about it she has very little info on lucy. so from what info mike is telling her he’s sounding like the abused and battered friend who’s in denial.
pretty much mike is painting a pretty bad representation of the relationship between him and lucy for sandy.
strider December 2, 2011, 4:58 AM EST.
True, It just comes off as one. I suppose Mike’s more in the wrong there as I doubt he talked about all the fun times he has had with his female best friend with his girlfriend in-case she wouldn’t understand and got anger or jealous or upset. More of the upset more then likely as I doubt Mike thinks she comes with the other two functions.
So Basically Yes, He has painted a bad portrait
Yume December 2, 2011, 5:02 AM EST.
If Lucy is abusive, what would say Sandy to that when Paulo made the people practically lynch Mike every time he was “cheating” Sandy?
Adri December 2, 2011, 5:25 AM EST.
Sandy isn’t manipulating mike guys, she’s merely helping the poor kid out the best as can.
Think about it, would you be friends with someone who constantly abuse you until you get to that breaking point?
Mike is better off with out Lucy to be honest with you because what did Lucy do?
And I love how sandy is turned into this HARLOT.
guys…. She’s far from that.
She’s a girlfriend.
Ragna December 2, 2011, 5:26 AM EST.
Sandy doesn’t really know the friendship that Lucy and Mike have though. She should trust him when he says he’s ok (although he does seem to be fishing for sympathy everytime he tells her). I know I have a friend I constantly fight with, but like Lucy for Mike, we’d do anything for eachother.
So yes Sandy is over reacting and not really trusting. Sounds pretty melodramatic too. What if Lucy was a guy? Would she react the same way? Paolo and him fight and yet…
I’m not a MikexLucy shipper necessarily, I just want Lucy to be happy. Mike’s a bit of a jerk.
GUP December 2, 2011, 5:30 AM EST.
Guess Paulo’s not a friend either.
Also; depending on the next page, I wonder if Sandy will try to use her breaking up with Mike as leverage to get Mike to end his friendship with Lucy. She’s pretty upset.
Just Saiyan December 2, 2011, 5:31 AM EST.
Pretty much @Just Saiyan.
Ragna December 2, 2011, 5:33 AM EST.
i stated the misconception with that logic already, she thinks mike is in denial about an abusive relationship. it’s not an over reaction, it’s an attempt at intervention.
or we’ll never see what her reactions to them was, because their not important to this particular story line and would just unnecessarily drag out the flashback sequence.
strider December 2, 2011, 5:37 AM EST.
Doesn’t matter if we’ll never see her reaction.
She said it herself: “A real friend would NEVER hurt you..ever!”
Just Saiyan December 2, 2011, 5:44 AM EST.
She’s using him to get rid of all of his friends…
badger December 2, 2011, 5:47 AM EST.
Not going against Sandy or anything, I’m just going to say some interesting things. What if Sandy really is manipulating Mike out of jealousy by feeling guilty? I mean Mike seems to talk to Sandy about Lucy a lot, so maybe she feels insecure and is trying to guilt trip Mike into ending his friendship with Lucy. Plus Sandy with her hair covering her eyes makes me think of those psycho chicks from anime. O . o
It’s just a thought, I’m not MikexLucy or MikexSandy or anything, I just like reading the comic and seeing where it all goes.
Midnight December 2, 2011, 5:49 AM EST.
Aha! I knew Mike wouldn’t really bitch to Sandy about Lucy and I also knew that Sandy would suspect something incongruous about this whole thing between them.
However, I’m now beginning to see it improbable that Sandy should sympathize with Lucy; as far as she’s concerned, she’s a potential rival.
Mike’s motives for distancing himself further away from Lucy are much clearer now. Hehe, despite Mike’s practicality, his sentimentalism led himself into this situation, and now he’s trying to rectify it on Lucy’s expense.
Mess December 2, 2011, 5:49 AM EST.
oookay, my bad. i thought you were saying that you wondered what her reaction was to them for comparison. sorry for the mistranslation, i’m in kind of a sandy-hater counter defense mode right now. anyhow, by her definition yes more than likely they are not friends. if mike even talked about these events at all, which i think he may have since he did have that similar outburst at his friends before (don’t ask me where cause i don’t remember off hand).
I don’t think that’s the case, i can’t really prove that off hand except that there’s no proof that sandy is being manipulative. i guess it’s all about the readers perception and how they view sandy. for instance from my perspective, i’m seeing sandy as a protective girlfriend, not a scheming pyschotic. as for the hair thing that anime technique is not only used to show psychosis, it also hides the eyes during the beginning of emotional scenes to give it more of a punch when you see the tears.
strider December 2, 2011, 5:50 AM EST.
I think Sandy is acting like this because of something that is happening to her…
Dont really think Lucy has some direct connection at all….
Loki December 2, 2011, 5:51 AM EST.
I think from Sandy’s perspective… Mike regularly talks about lucy… and all her whining and arguements…. When you talk about another person alot in a long distance relationship i think it naturally would put some strain on it since the other person has no idea what is really happening… hence why Sandy asks whether Mike loves lucy or not. Doubts arise naturally… I’d imagine Sandy feels hurt and panicky just listening to Mike talk about Lucy as well as Lucy’s treatment of Mike.
Still I’m eagerly waiting for Sandy to arrive in the comic proper… Well this is good insight into Sandy as well but it gets a bit sad and painful when they still havent seen each other since forever.
Delta December 2, 2011, 5:52 AM EST.
Technically that’s just pointing to her bring rather shelthered. She probably doesn’t know much about the more rougher friendships a person can have. That’s why it’s bad on mike for not explaining more on this so (in Theory) Sandy could understand a bit better.
Lucy is trying to better herself though as she didn’t deserve how he exploded at her, just because he decided to ignore the slow changes she was making to better herself. Sandy’s allowed to be a concerned girlfriend but because she doesn’t have all sides of the situation so her freaking out comes off a bit over the top.
Yume December 2, 2011, 5:53 AM EST.
I think from Sandy’s perspective… Mike regularly talks about lucy… and all her whining and arguements…. When you talk about another person alot in a long distance relationship i think it naturally would put some strain on it since the other person has no idea what is really happening… hence why Sandy asks whether Mike loves lucy or not. Doubts arise naturally… I’d imagine Sandy feels hurt and panicky just listening to Mike talk about Lucy as well as Lucy’s treatment of Mike.
Sandy seems sweet enough altho abit prone to crying, I do want to see how she will get along with Lucy when she arrives… I think she is gonna have this distain for lucy altho…. Altho Mike really has taken to hating Lucy so maybe they’ll just avoid her altogether.
Lucy is forever alone… so crushingly sad… I wonder what will happen to her… I say deep down she’s insecure enough to contemplate suicide…
 double posted cos net disconnected during posting… my bad…
Delta December 2, 2011, 5:58 AM EST.
Ok. I read todays comic, and was all ready to make some disparaging remark about idiots trying to justify demonising Sandy. But I stopped and thought “No… That’s just a dumb played out joke. I’ll post it and look the fool because nobody was actually dumb enough to still be riding that train of thought.”
OH HOW WRONG I WAS!
I just don’t get how some of you people can justify your comments!
I’m not going to bother addressing all the idiocy, because honestly, it’s all been pointed out and covered already. I will say only this.
This is a photo I took of myself after I stopped reading these comments.
Yes that’s real. No I’m not joking.
Maverik December 2, 2011, 6:05 AM EST.
Is it just me or is Sandy holding the phone behind her ear in panel 8.
Viken December 2, 2011, 6:08 AM EST.
what the heck did you do to yourself. was that purely from rage or the did you do a *head-desk* thing
strider December 2, 2011, 6:08 AM EST.
I personally think she’s being a tad over the top, but that’s just how I see it. Everyone has their own opinion on the matter, there’s not really any right or wrong.
I certainly feel that Mike should grow a pair and figure things out for himself, rather than let the opinions of another influence his friendship. He could quite happily remain friends with Lucy and stick with Sandy. Sandy should also be a tad more open minded, while I understand she’s hurting because she cares for Mike, I also feel she lacks experience with friends of that nature. Just because Lucy gets violent doesn’t make her any less of a friend or makes her care any less, for Mike.
There’s two sides to this and no winner, sadly, SOMEONE will get hurt regardless and Mike has a difficult decision to make.
Meface December 2, 2011, 6:14 AM EST.
ok time for my long rantyness (yay first one…) here goes. In my own defense i never interpreted Lucy and Mike’s fights as Lucy abusing Mike. There were no warning signs (at least to me) even in the Acupoco arc. When Mike got annoyed at Lucy crying over and clinging to him I honestly thought it was because (in my opinion) she was being overly clingy especially when she saw that in the end he was fine and it has been my exprience that guys do not like overly clingy girls. As far as the pushing, shoving, kicking ect… goes I (again personally/in my opinon) never attributed it to abuse because I honestly thought she was behaving like an immature, tomboyish kid. And kids like that (minus the tomboish part) tend to pick on the ones they like the most ( i know because i was like that when i was younger.) for my 2nd point I can see where Sandy is coming from. As a person who is currently in a very very long distance relationship (he lives in canada and I live in Louisiana) it physically hurts to see/hear/know the one you like (i won’t say love because I personally believe they are still a little to immature to know love and I myself don’t know if i love him yet) is suffering whether they realize it or not. On the other hand (again i know this personally) a person who has seen/suffered some sort of abuse will often see “trigger” signs that may or may not be there (thus explaining her panicking) also leading her to believe that Lucy is abusing Mike that their other friends just didn’t see or didn’t care about. Finally for those who are saying that Lucy won’t do anything stupid because she’s stronger than that (although i could be totally wrong and Taeshi proves to us all that Lucy has become an emotionally capable teenager) lets not forget that Lucy is not strong emotionally at all. Remember how she broke down when she thought she lost mike at the Acopoco arc? now keeping that in mind imagine her reaction to knowing she’s lost Mike. Granted she may not do something stupid to get back at him personally but I (again personally) don’t believe she is strong enough to come out of this arc unscathed and all the better for it. when a person’s main support comes crashing down it tears them up and kills them a little on the inside (and sometimes it kills them a lot). Finally Mike. now that we’ve got some insight from Taeshi herself I can see where the Lucy bashing from him is coming from. When you hurt it’s only human (or in this case furry?) nature to get back and hurt the ones who hurt you. And that’s exactly what he’s doing to Lucy except he’s doing it emotionally because he knows physically won’t get his point across even if he did hit a girl. (again personally) when you are bullied the first and foremost thought in your mind is on how to get revenge when the bully tries to make amends. you don’t want to be friends you don’t want to be buddy buddy and pretend that everything never happened….you want them to experience the same if not a fraction of the pain that they caused you. and so (i’m not saying it’s right) the way Mike is treating Lucy makes a heck of a lot more sense now and (at least for now) he truly does hate lucy. and again this is all just from my own personal perspective of how i’ve personally viewed the comic. i am by no means saying that my pov is right because i will admit a lot of my points are rather jaded and for that i apologize. but i can also say this i am going to go back and re-read the comic with this new perspective and I also do view Sandy in a different light and i have Taeshi and the others who took the time to explain their view points to thank for that.
Luna December 2, 2011, 6:15 AM EST.
Oook now realy, i understando sandy point of view and all, but now she is beeing a drama queen. I know iknow, friends that hurts each other and bla bla bla not real friends bla bla bla. Realy? not at all!
Real friends can fight sometimes, of course, Lucy do not fight SOMETIMES, she fight every time and do not HIT Mike, she HURT Mike, buuuut, that do not defines friendship.
a true friendship is when you have a problem with your friend and go talk to him about it! Like mike and lucy in the begining, remember? Now they don’t do this, of course the hole “i love you” mess this up, but in the end, they were honest and trustfull of each other and THAT is what beeing a friend is about. Trust and Honesty!
Of course, that’s my point of view, and i’m not say it’s the right one, but no one, sady or lucy lovers, can’t say that is a bit of execive drama from Sandy, and previously from Lucy!
Arthorius December 2, 2011, 6:21 AM EST.
I was reading comments and thinking “These are physically painful to read”, and then I felt blood rolling down my upper lip.
You make your own connections.
Maverik December 2, 2011, 6:23 AM EST.
quick question, would you consider individuals who get teary and emotional at an intervention (alcoholic or otherwise) being overdramatic?
ah, the good old blood rush. i see now. (i think)
strider December 2, 2011, 6:25 AM EST.
Oh gosh…Sandy is such a baby!
Lucas December 2, 2011, 6:28 AM EST.
I’m starting to get the feeling that Sandy’s a bit too precious, or something’s happened to her while being away that’s made her a bit over-protective of things like injuries.
She just seems to be overreacting far too oddly for it to be normal. And Taeshi not showing her face entirely either, this is two strips now where all we’ve seen of Sandy’s face is her whiskers and mouth with her hair over her eyes.
Something’s not right with Sandy.
Variun December 2, 2011, 6:29 AM EST.
Oh now she’s your friend again?
Austin December 2, 2011, 6:31 AM EST.
o_0 Sandy is being pretty oversensitive.
I’m personally a MikexLucy person, but I feel really bad for Sandy by this point. She thinks her boyfriend is in love with another girl who only wants to see him in pain. Lucy doesn’t WANT to hurt anyone, (except when she’s pwning perverts) she’s just having a hard time expressing herself I think.
Mike is going to have to make a hard choice soon.
Jackiesoarous December 2, 2011, 6:34 AM EST.
Ehh, Sandy? Learn how to not bump into other’s business. Girls who whine about their bf’s friends aren’t exactly a good thing, believe it or not.
Udyr December 2, 2011, 6:34 AM EST.
Ah i can remember back when I was a MikexLucy fan. Then came a flashback and shattered it like a vase. So I replaced that vase with a LucyxPaulo one.
Mike can go off and live with Sandy now right? I’m tired of him.
Kindle_kat December 2, 2011, 6:44 AM EST.
I would think that’s a perfectly normal reaction, although it IS sort of exaggerated, I’m guessing ‘cause this is a comic and such, and also maybe ‘cause Sandy is an emotional girl. I mean, Sandy (and Lucy) only has one side of the story to rely upon, it’s only natural she fills in the gaps by herself.
I’m still seeing how this is really freakin’ exactly like something recent that happened to me; my Mike had something with a Sandy and I was stuck as Lucy, not having a single idea why Sandy was so appealing. Hits like a truck and I guess that’s why I keep reading this comic; it’s situations I’ve already been through, played out by other actors and with different outcomes.
Also, Udyr, you’re a LoL fan as well? ;P
Paash December 2, 2011, 6:53 AM EST.
So She did Break their Friendship up….But not out of vindictiveness. She was worried about mike….There Really is No Bad Guys just bad choices in this Chapter.
AnthonyDafox December 2, 2011, 6:54 AM EST.
Yeah, you tell him, Sandy! I can’t wait for her to arrive at Roseville. I support MikexSandy.
Peppermint December 2, 2011, 7:00 AM EST.
I see Sandy’s intentions, and I find those good, but—
She’s really getting on my nerves.
Yeah, I know she’s not doing anything wrong, but— I mean, come on! She’s getting in the way of Mike and Lucy’s friendship! Seriously? She had already severed any possibility of Mike and Lucy being in a relationship, but breaking their friendship as well? Not cool, Sandy. Not cool.
LeXee December 2, 2011, 7:09 AM EST.
Sandy should eat a breakupwithmikepizza. with cheese.
AnonymousUbahn December 2, 2011, 7:20 AM EST.
Putting myself in Sandy’s shoes here (or partly anyways)
If my boyfriend, whom i love very very much, was hurt (verbally or physically) by a friend, boy or girl, i would be very sad even if i knew what kind of person it was or not.
Some say Sandy is a crybaby and she’s overreacting an so on…. BUT if someone you loved dearly told you that he was being hurt by a supposed friend, wouldn’t you be sad about it?? I know i would and i would react like Sandy… I would be angry, I would perhaps cry and i would tell him that no one should treat him like that specially if it happens more than once… I might even tell him to think about the friendship and where it’s heading.
It all makes sense
Though it is sad that Mike and Lucys friendship ends it also means that they can start again when time has healed the scars of the past… or what ever.
I’m not even gonna try guessing what’s gonna happen. love the story so far
LilleCille December 2, 2011, 7:22 AM EST.
@Maverik, Now I’m picturing you smashing your face into your computer in rage. It makes me giggle, almost as much as the silly people who think Sandy is the queen of evil because Mike is explaining compiled abuses.
@Everyone, Are you really surprised? Can you REALLY justify the hate for poor Sandy? Really? She’s just worried that this bitch friend of his is abusing him and Mike’s blind to it because of their child-hood friendship.
The Sarcastic Spoon December 2, 2011, 7:28 AM EST.
Sandy is the exact opposite of Lucy! I wonder is if she is from a parallel demintion…
no one December 2, 2011, 7:31 AM EST.
@the sarcastic spoon,
that’s why it’s so infuriating, i’ve only seen one person justify his sandy hate and it was based on personal preference of the character. for the most part it’s like arguing with a bunch of kids. they’re putting their hands on their ears and saying “lalalalalala i can’t hear you, i hate sandy.” over and over again with no just cause. because they think she’s perfect/a mary sue or that she’s manipulative, when it’s proven that they have no basis for their claims the go into the aforementioned child mode.
strider December 2, 2011, 7:37 AM EST.
Why must we have to wait untill monday for the next page ; - ;
Its gotten soooo goood Dx
AND DAMN IT
Why must you leave us on a huge clift hanger like this !
So much toment x.x;
Sarahrawr December 2, 2011, 7:42 AM EST.
Ok, most of the time I’m on Sandy’s side, because Lucy is an emotional hurricane, but who is Sandy to judge their friendship? That’s not right.
Kit December 2, 2011, 7:42 AM EST.
Sandy is seriously acting like a child. Calling Mike Mishal or whatever, saying “ARE YOU GONNA TELL A TEACHER?!” Seriously? That’s only stuff kids do, idiot. And “Why would you put up with that wah wah”. Friends put up with friends. It’s the way **** happens. But Sandy over here grew up with a silver spoon in her mouth. She obviously gets everything she wants. She has a job, she stole Mike from Lucy a huge amount of times (including the one right now, with how Mike is flipping the **** out). She’s such a spoiled little brat it’s disgusting. Lucy has a temper, sure, but she ALSO has days where she can be the sweetest girl in the world! And most of the time it’s just playful manner. Calling Mike a “jerkface” is playful! Not OH I’M GONNA TELL DA TEACHER ON U EVEN THO WE ARE AT MY HOUSE AND THIS IS ALL HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF ****ING SCHOOL. Sandy needs to GROW. UP. >:L
EpicGamerGirl December 2, 2011, 7:45 AM EST.
Yeah, if Sandy really did care for Mike she would try even for a single hour to be with him for a year at least. I mean its been a long time, she should know that love changes through time. Mike is no saint, Sandy, he cares for Lucy too. He can’t lose either of one of you yet he goes for the one that hasn’t really shown affection .Actions speak louder than words.I’m not seeing any, Sandy.
P.S. Being as pampered as you have been and as busy as you have been,you should know how valuable a friendship that Mike and Lucy has built over the years. You can’t sever that because You think its best for him because he knows its not.
meinpain December 2, 2011, 7:49 AM EST.
… LUCY threw the tandrum? I don’t think so *******
AllJustShadesOfGray December 2, 2011, 7:49 AM EST.
When u get right down to it sandy is the reason. But Lucy’s behavior is taken to effect. Yes Lucy has backed off, and while she addmitted her feelings she is at fault for all the drama and crap she has given mike. Though she only treated him that way out of her own insecuritys. She treated him, that way in the event that she would lose him or he’d leave her. In realyity he is distant from her because of her crap. If she was honest from begining she wouldn’t be as mesed up as she is…..but what u going to do. I respect mikes attedude to lucy…. i realy do. I think he whent to far?…..yes. I do! U can have a moment of respect. Damit. But to say i HATE U! IS still harsh! I believe he needed to stand up for him self but to deny her altogether is exactly y she treated him the way she did. She is so afraid of losing a friend that she treats him bad. I been there. We all been there. We treat bad to protect our selfeves then bites us in the *** later when we hurt that person, and wish we didn’t care and said what we realy mean without fear of rejection. Thats lucys prob. She has been the way she is so long in fear of the day a guy like mike would harshly set her striaght. If she was true doesn’t mean she’d get the good result but i think she’d be less ****ed up for theropy and proned for suicide like early er this chapter if she was less insecure and ready for people or others crap if she was true.
JustSomeCritic December 2, 2011, 7:53 AM EST.
here we go again, are we seriously gonna start the silverspoon debate again. you’re overlaying your perception of good things and not paying attention to sandy’s perception. when has she shown herself to be a “spoiled brat”? do you think she wants to do that work? don’t you think she just wants a normal life? let me answer that in order:
never, there is no evidence to this claim
no, you can see how miserable she is doing it, read “to the top” if you don’t believe me.
yes, again read “to the top” and look at things that could symbolize a normal life in comparison to her.
stop making your own comic in your head by adding your perception of reality and social class stereotypes on the characters.
furthermore, her reaction is justified because mike has tainted her vision of lucy. since mike only really talks about the bad times, sandy views that lucy isn’t a friend, but a bully. also sandy’s perception of reality is based on the info she has, it is showing that mike is in denial of this fact. so her reaction here is one of trying to make mike see her perception (aka an intervention)
strider December 2, 2011, 7:55 AM EST.
you are so over reacting sandy….dont jump on your conclusion before seeing the truth…very not wise…very childish I think… poor lucy…
animelover December 2, 2011, 7:56 AM EST.
Oh my god, Panel 11.
I LIKE BIG BUTTS AND I CAN NOT LIE! YOU OTHER BROTHERS CAN’T DENY! WHEN A GIRL WALK IN WITH AN ITTY BITTY WAIST AND A ROUND THING IN YOUR FACE YOU GET SPRUNG!
But seriously, dem some serious curves for a 12 year old. (or however old they are in this flashback)
Jorje December 2, 2011, 7:59 AM EST.
Y’know, there’s such a thing as being TOO protective and emotional.
Friends, especially kids/teens, can hit each other and hurt each other all the time as long as it’s either not serious or they apologize later and move on. Hell, even relationships have times where the two hurt each other (hopefully just emotionally and not physically), but if they’re successful, they’re able to make up and put it past them. To think that there can be a friendship where the two participants DON’T hurt each other at least once, especially in more “masculine” friendships like Mike’s and tomboy Lucy’s, is very naive and misunderstanding of human (cat?) nature. Lucy has anger issues and goes just a bit too far, true enough, but Mike seems fine with it since he smiles it off and they were able to move on and continue being friends. An establishment of boundaries and limits and examination of actions before they go too far surely would be necessary in the future, but there’s no malice or evil intentions going on.
What Sandy here is doing is emotional manipulation. She seems incredibly overprotective and clinging of Mike to the point that knowing he’s been hurt in the slightest causes her to become very depressed and defensive. She seems to be the type of person that would forbid her boyfriend from stepping onto a gravel driveway ever again if he tripped on a rock and bruised his knee once. She also has the optimistic but naive mindset that friends are never allowed to hurt each other or else they’re not “really” friends. These, while seemingly romantic qualities, are in reality rather bad to have in a partner, especially to this extreme, as you either find yourself to be forced into situations or mindsets that do more damage to yourself and others than before, or you find yourself arguing with your partner’s differing opinions and this can lead to fighting and break-ups.
It seems that Sandy has caused the former to occur with Mike. He was pretty much okay with the situation, but due to her overbearing overreaction, he slowly began to feel and think the same way she does, interpreting Lucy’s behavior as evil rather than playful and unintentional, and that real friends never hurt each other. This has led to the supposed declaration of “we were never friends”, a hatred born out of this emotional manipulation via tears and overbearing love. It’s very unintentional manipulation, but it’s manipulation nonetheless.
TL;DR: Mike’s whipped.
QuetzaDrake December 2, 2011, 7:59 AM EST.
bla bla bla
MIKE YOU IDIOT
bla bla bla
SANDY , ROT IN HELL
bla bla bla
It’s okay, Lucy. Mike doesn’t know the meaning of Tsundere.
juDEX December 2, 2011, 8:00 AM EST.
no guys. to those who say “sandy is right because she is only worried”. do you think someone knows lucy better than mike? go read “confrontation and you will see mike says “I like your punches in my face”.
sandy, not intentionally, is making mike doubt about lucy. I think he let her convince him only because she’s his girlfriend. sandy’s not the best person to talk about friendship. don’t you remember that, when she was with mike in third grade, she stopped seeing daisy (her best friend) and that she didn’t even tell her that she was to leave (go read “pillow talk”, page 39) ?
now, for sandy’s “fault”, mike changed idea about lucy. and this is bad, because it’s evident he forces himself to think she isn’t his friend (why would he cry telling her “I hate you”? why would he still be able to smile and laugh with her if he was really convinced she is as sandy thinks?).
edit. QuetzaDrake, I read your post and I agree with you with almost everything you wrote.
I wanted to add to my post:
probably mike doesn’t argue with sandy about lucy because he doesn’t want to risk losing her.
but you already wrote it in another (better) way.
boh... December 2, 2011, 8:01 AM EST.
Perspective makes it look like Sandy’s rump is massive in the second-to-last panel.
Hannibal December 2, 2011, 8:02 AM EST.
mike, you liar, you’re the one who started it! She didn’t do anything til you yelled first.
asimplefangirl December 2, 2011, 8:04 AM EST.
Ok I’ve been in Mike’s spot before. My Lucy wasn’t worth even spitting on by the end of it. I’ve had friends tell me to get away from her that a real friend wouldn’t play with my heart that way. Well ya should have listened to them. Here is hoping that things go better for you then they did for me Mike.
anon December 2, 2011, 8:05 AM EST.
its all Mike fault…. he was not able to explained about his friendship with lucy…such a drama king you are mike…you now it was not like that but you easily throw away your friendship with lucy just because sandy said so.
i agree with boh.. that mike doesn’t argue with sandy about lucy because he doesn’t want to risk losing her.
animelover December 2, 2011, 8:10 AM EST.
you’re correct it wasn’t intentional. but here’s the problem, sandy didn’t put a gun to mike’s head and say stop being her friend. he did that on his own because he didn’t want to go into details about his relationship with lucy. she’s an innocent bystander who tried to give her boyfriend advice based on bad intel. who wouldn’t do that if you thought your love was in danger? also, couldn’t that line in confrontation have been sarcasm? cause i really don’t think mike is a masochist.
also, some people need to stop seeing this so narrowly. remember we have all the facts in this case, that’s the perk of being the viewer you get to see all sides of things. sandy doesn’t have that same perk she can’t see what we’ve seen, her perception of what’s going on is based solely on what mike is telling her.
~edit~ boh, drunk doesn’t = sincere, it means you’re more likely to say messed up things. trust me i’m a former alcoholic, and i had cases where i said things that weren’t sincere that i thought were funny at the time, but were uber embarrasing in hind sight.
if that were the case then a guy telling another guy he loves him when their drunk would mean their gay, right?
strider December 2, 2011, 8:10 AM EST.
something about sandy makes me feel as though she did something bad…
Bioniclema90 December 2, 2011, 8:11 AM EST.
Quetzre is spot on.
DJ Breadwinner December 2, 2011, 8:12 AM EST.
mike was drunk in that part. he was 100% sincere.
I didn’t say anything against sandy. I’m saying it’s mike’s fault, because he didn’t have the courage to tell her how lucy really is, so he ended up convincing himself that she was right. but he knows it’s not true and we can see that from the fact he cries etc. (I already wrote this in the other post…).
boh... December 2, 2011, 8:15 AM EST.
These flashbacks are making me love Sandy more, that’s true, but I can’t help feeling that something’s up with her to be reacting this way.
It’s perfectly understandable for her to come to this conclusion after the way Mike stands up for Lucy, especially with her abusing him so mercilessly, and for her to be worried, but since we don’t know her back story, maybe there’s something we’re missing to this equation?
Milly December 2, 2011, 8:20 AM EST.
Sandy is a drama-queen
Avory December 2, 2011, 8:21 AM EST.
Dear Lord, still with Sandy bashing? Would you not be concerned if your lover was taking abuse from someone? My God, she loves him, and he’s letting himself go through this because he insists that Lucy is a good person, but what evidence does Sandy have of that besides what Mike is saying?
Tsukaiz December 2, 2011, 8:22 AM EST.
Wow be more of a bitch really.
Jay Tea December 2, 2011, 8:33 AM EST.
I do not think it is obvious enough that this is a flashback.
Some guy December 2, 2011, 8:41 AM EST.
Something’s not right here… shes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to sheltered and seems almost clingy… welp, guess we all have our negative traits but.. something still seems off..
Krystal McCloud December 2, 2011, 8:43 AM EST.
Don’t lie to her, Mike. You know fully well you started it the fight in the first place…
Tickle Monster December 2, 2011, 8:46 AM EST.
Well…I can imagine for Sandy’s point of view that it would seem Mike’s situation with Lucy is kind of ****ed up. Especially when the things he tells Sandy about lucy involved physical abuse
Iris December 2, 2011, 8:46 AM EST.
Tbh I use to like Sandy before this chapter but this overreacting is making me dislike her. I think she’s jealous and using tears to control him. If Lucy was a boy I’m sure Sandy wouldn’t care that much. Sure she cares but dam is she overreacting over it. My boyfriends friend hurt his neck, sure I was concerned and ****** but I didn’t start crying over it.
Kitten December 2, 2011, 8:47 AM EST.
She’s just overreacting. And Mike hates her because Lucy hits her? They’ve been fighting for years and NOW that Sandy is kind of crying because of that, Mike finally realises that he’s not Lucy’s friend? I must confess, I have a friend that punches me, for real. And I still like her very much.
Sorry if you like Sandy, but she looks like an overprotective mother to me.
anon December 2, 2011, 8:47 AM EST.
Quite the over dramatic little princess. She’s not even there to see them. That’s all right, I do hope her perfect persona is shattered when she comes to visit.
Suzume December 2, 2011, 8:50 AM EST.
It is okay to bash Sandy if you only bash the fact that her nature is overly sensitive and protective, leading to unintentional emotional manipulation.
It is okay to bash Lucy if you only bash the fact that she has aggression and anger issues that she’s mostly unaware of.
It is okay to bash Mike if you only bash the fact that he let his mind descend into such a hateful state due to the hatred of his love being depressed and disapproving.
The ideal resolution this whole thing should’ve had long ago is one where Mike both informs and reassures Sandy that he’ll discuss the situation with Lucy, and then does so, with Sandy realizing that it isn’t as serious as she first thought, Lucy realizing that her aggression is or could cause a lot of strain in the future if she doesn’t learn to hold it back, and Mike realizing that talking and explaining how things are and how to fix them is the best way to solve a problem.
This is not what happened in the slightest, though, and thus everyone is indirectly to blame but no one is intentionally to blame.
QuetzaDrake December 2, 2011, 8:52 AM EST.
This must be a flashback to a few years ago or something, right? Sandy is acting too much like a little kid…the way she’s talking…but maybe this is just a subject that makes Sandy really, really emotional?…
TheGirlWhoNeverComments December 2, 2011, 8:52 AM EST.
Oh my, oh my. Sandy DOES have a point though. I’m sort of jumbled with the flashback sequence, but I do expect moar drama to unfold.
Fauxpas December 2, 2011, 8:53 AM EST.
Who knows if she even knows about all the fighting though…I don’t really see this as over-reacting yet. I mean…if Mike isn’t really telling Sandy anything else about Lucy except for the hurting bits…then yeah I would be really concerned too. It probably hurts her that her boyfriend lets himself be hurt. Maybe Mike is a “pity party” type with her and he only tells her when Lucy is mean to him and not when she is nice.
Iris December 2, 2011, 8:53 AM EST.
If you were in a relationship with someone and you heard that a friend of theirs had been shouting at them and hitting them, wouldn’t you be worried?
I know I would be.
Darth Gw7 December 2, 2011, 8:53 AM EST.
oh ou its geting tens
gobo744 December 2, 2011, 8:57 AM EST.
Even though I would be EXTREMELY angry instead of crying over my boyfriend’s abuse, I think Sandy has a good point. Who, in their right mind, would let someone else kick him around like that? Considering this is serious. Even though Sandy had a ‘sheltered’ life, I don’t think her concern has anything to do with it.
Though, I still wonder how serious that ‘abuse’ is. When first reading the comic, I kinda laughed about it because it seemd like slap-stick humor. Should I feel guilty now?
LH December 2, 2011, 9:04 AM EST.
Poor Sandy :[ She cares so much for him. But I still love Lucy… I’M SO CONFUSED. I’ll just sit on the fence for now :3 wew. I prefer PauloxLucy right now, anyway Then again, I think she’s crying, not only because her boyfriend is getting hurt, but also because she feels that her relationship with Mikie is being threatened. OHZ NOEZ
LikexMucy December 2, 2011, 9:09 AM EST.
God, what a drama queen.
I used to struggle all the time with my girlfriend, just because a little roughhousing can be fun.
Davey December 2, 2011, 9:13 AM EST.
Tsk tsk… Mike you’re not being completle honest. You’re the reason Lucy hurts you (Because u hurt her feelings)
cagedbird December 2, 2011, 9:24 AM EST.
go cry a river sandy……..
mike why did u put up with her WHY .
and it’s much better and easy Taeshi to wirte on a page (flashback) it’s easy 4 u and the other people and @shada i kinda dissagree sorry
i think still sandy make him do this becaus mike dont want to let sandy cry so he’s harsh to lucy and still harsh. mike kan stand up for it’s self and say stop puching me and kicking. but lucy doe’s that becaus mike ignores her and kill’s her hart that’s why i hate sandy becaus now mike and lucy are agruing with each other still for mikexlucy xD.
thathurts,good? December 2, 2011, 9:25 AM EST.
Me and my friend do that sort of **** all the time (minus the screaming and yelling) but his girlfriend doesnt say that friends dont do that. though yet again i think the fact that she hasnt hanged out out with the whole group maybe if she had then she wouldnt think like this?
SAXsamus December 2, 2011, 9:27 AM EST.
People come from all kinds of backgrounds. It shouldn’t be surprising someone would be alarmed at the fact Lucy is being abusive. Especially Sandy. Imagine someone is kicking, beating, and screaming at your boyfriend/girlfriend all the time and dragging them into random situations. And they’re totally okay with it while you have to sit back and do nothing because it’s long distance. The fact he’s okay with that shows he really wants to stick with Lucy, or is forced to. He could walk away but he doesn’t. I can’t blame her for being unsettled by that. Also Sandy would probably be a very pretty girl considering she’s a model. So her boyfriend cheating on her or dealing with another girl would probably hit her self esteem. Hard.
I’m curious as to what Sandy’s are though as I can’t seem to remember. :C She seems generally concerned but who knows at this point?
Mills December 2, 2011, 9:47 AM EST.
Gone from 2 months and the story is been freaking amazing
yoshikan December 2, 2011, 9:48 AM EST.
Waitwaitwaitwait… Mike and Lucy have been at it for years now.. and yet all of you are JUST NOW freaking out over the fact that she hits him? … Your joking right??
Krystal McCloud December 2, 2011, 9:51 AM EST.
I actually find Sandy really off-putting. Every line of her dialogue makes me think there’s something wrong in her head, like she’s wired backwards or something. It makes me wonder what on earth the two of them ACTUALLY talk about when it isn’t bare snips of dialogue like this, because what we’re being shown obviously isn’t the norm for them… they wouldn’t spend all day every day talking about Lucy. And Sandy really doesn’t seem capable of carrying a conversation.
adekii December 2, 2011, 9:59 AM EST.
@SAXsamus I agree with you statement because how Lucy and Mike at (yelling at each other hitting one another) how me and me friends have acted and still act to this day. It’s not because we’re not good friends but we’re just having a good laugh.
But I can see where Sandy is just worried for Mike and his health, and does wanna see him hurt.
There I put my two cents in just wanted to share that and that not all MikexLucy shippers thinks Sandy is an evil bitch
Jewinja December 2, 2011, 9:59 AM EST.
@ Krystal McCloud
Well, before the ‘abuse’ only occured in the comic as it were. We didn’t have another character commenting on it and it was a much lighter time in the comic. However now we are meant to think of it a s being more realistic and we can see a realistic response to the ‘abuse’. We aren’t sffected by it any more as viewers, but we are meant to see the gravity of the situation for Sandy and Mike and others involved.
BarbedFire December 2, 2011, 10:02 AM EST.
Wait, back up! This was a flashback? Well now everything makes sense but you should had a transition text like “Earlier that- “; now I see why and now I want to know is what is going to happen when flashback is over?
Starkeyblade December 2, 2011, 10:03 AM EST.
Evil?…. na, probably naive ~
Huh? December 2, 2011, 10:04 AM EST.
Dramatic Sandy is dramatic.
akipolies December 2, 2011, 10:11 AM EST.
ok… that seems kind of… controlling???
I know we don´t know the whole story, but what if she is jealous??, i know i would not like it if my girl is “that”close to another guy as to hit him and stuff like that, its weird, but i would first say that instead of creating a whole drama where I try to take away one of her friends away because i´m “concerned” about her well being, i mean, she knows what she is doing, if she doesnt care to be hit and bruised, why would i?? the closeness is the one thing that i would find objectionable, not the hitting and stuff
JMOR December 2, 2011, 10:17 AM EST.
Oooooooh! I’m intrigued now. I love this page. So much love.
novascottch December 2, 2011, 10:23 AM EST.
I agree with JMOR. I would definitely be angry at my s.o.’s seemingly abusive friend, but I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t imply that I knew more about the relationship than I did (ie: telling him she’s not his friend). I would just roll my eyes and say, “I don’t understand why you hang out with them,” and I definitely wouldn’t cry about it. Sandy’s quite sensitive and judge-y.
Quite honestly, Sandy would probably bother me in real life just as much as Lucy, if not more so. At least Lucy would be able to handle a joke or two. Sandy would probably dissolve into tears.
Naraka December 2, 2011, 10:31 AM EST.
I must say I really hate Sandy. They are teens for goodness sakes friends smack each other around when they are that age. Sandy is just so terribly naive to not realize that. It is none of her business how Mike interacts with his friends if it doesn’t bother him then she should stay out of his business.
Then again I’m a Lucy fan I might be a wee bit bias…
Ariel December 2, 2011, 10:34 AM EST.
So the calls with Sandy are flashbacks, now that explains better. Still what? Friends can’t have arguements now and then? Just because a some arguements and a kick on the shin, Lucy is a bad friend? Sandy hasn’t been there in God knows how long. She doesn’t even knows how Mike and Lucy’s friendship works. And Mike was too stupid in let Sandy tell him all those things and worse, believe them.
LPatamon December 2, 2011, 10:34 AM EST.
Ok, here’s what may be going on,
either Sandy is being that crazy lover and wants to put Lucy in the spot of the bad guy(girl), OR she just cares about his health….
I would think, by the amount of drama in this comic, that she is just crazily in love with him, but not in the way of being a bitch, just being greedy for Mikes love which may lead to more drama! so lets hope!
Irondude December 2, 2011, 10:38 AM EST.
Aaaand the drama kicks in!
Harry December 2, 2011, 10:42 AM EST.
My god, Sand y just made my list of people I want to slap.
Well maybe not slap. More of a konk on the head for being so babyish. Unless something else happened to make her cry.
Lunas December 2, 2011, 10:53 AM EST.
@the description: oh Taeshi <3
and ofcourse…. I see how this goes… :\ ugh.
on the one hand, Sandy seems to be innocent, so maybe she’s just concerned.
on the other hand, maybe she’s jealous and using her tears against him.
I’M NOT SAYING WHICH THIS IS. I’m just saying they’re both possibilities. as some people really can be this silly an naive and too concerned over the person that they don’t think about that fact that there might be a story behind it ( WHICH IS //NOT// AN INSULT, SO DO NOT START WITH ME. )
and I’ve also had for example my last ex, who always seemed concerned about me and my well-being, but when it got down to it, really had his own selfish shizz at the core~. they both exist, and unfortunately it’s really hard to tell them apart :|
Mike… you KNOW Lucy…. come on…. don’t do this…. :\
anon December 2, 2011, 11:05 AM EST.
Leave Sandy alone guys.. Sandy doesn’t know Lucy or doesn’t remember her well (since all her attention when she was younger was devoted to mike), so she can’t understand the concept of lucy’s and Mike’s situation. Sandy is living far away, probably coping with stress everyday due to her daily activities, and it is a shame that everyone is Dissing her. I am A mike/Sandy fan as much as a Lucy/Mike fan, but I’m not calling her harsh things. If you were not worried about your Boyfriend/girlfriend when they comes home everyday injured or something along those lines (even if the injury isn’t as bad as what she’s exaggerating) because of some person you dont know who is close to them, then what state of mind are you in? or perhaps, for those who would care but still disagree, Is this hatred directed at her over your Fandom of mike/Lucy? would you be mentally capapble of ignoring it or letting it pass without worrying? when the situation could perhaps grow into a worse form of ‘bullying’.
Sandy lives too far away to help him or do anything about lucy’s current imaturity, And I’m sure if she was living in the same area as mike at the time this was happening she would Stick up for him or speak to Lucy. Any good girlfriend wouldn’t let that pass. Sandy is NOT a bad person for worrying perhaps a little too much about Mike’s wellfare. Give the girl some credit.
TimeTraveller December 2, 2011, 11:11 AM EST.
A lot of people think sandy is turning weak, but you got to realise that this is a flashback and doesnt necessarily mean that she will be “weak” in the future.
I dont necessarily believe sandy is “weak” but i do find the fact that she cries to be a little strange. In her situation i would expect her to get angry, or frustrated at lucy’s treatment of mike, but not crying.
MC93 December 2, 2011, 11:12 AM EST.
Also you know who we havn’t seen in a while. yashi and lily
MC93 December 2, 2011, 11:14 AM EST.
Sandy’s right, good friends don’t hurt you
BEST friends however
elinn December 2, 2011, 11:24 AM EST.
Sandy was sheltered growing up. So was I. I’m a guy and 20 and I never hit my friends or best friends. I thought people who did were dumb because they couldn’t figure out a better way to express or talk about their feelings. I have the same view of sandy. Friends don’t hit friends. But when they lie to themselves and say that everything is fine and take it because it was a friend that hit them, it magically makes it ok? I don’t think so.
Ven December 2, 2011, 11:25 AM EST.
ven, listen, maybe you never saw friends who “hurt” eachother, but they exist and are more numerous than you think. you can’t say “you are dumb because you prefer physical contact than words”. it’s more spontaneous asd has no drawbacks if it is accepted by both sides. the only thing is that sometimes it happens that you hurt someone worse than you intended to do, but if he’s a good friend, he will understand and forgive you instantly. it happened to me several times.
with mike and lucy, we don’t know if she hurt him so bad intentionally (in the previous page, I mean), so we really can’t take anything for sure…
boh... December 2, 2011, 11:32 AM EST.
You should consider some sort of indicator that we’re dealing with a flashback here, because I didn’t notice at all.
SgtRed December 2, 2011, 11:39 AM EST.
2nd last pic.
Wim December 2, 2011, 11:41 AM EST.
Hmm, good point… this page could easily be mistaken as an aftermath of what was happening between Lucy and Mike.
I would perhaps suggest giving a slight faded grayscale to the flashback pages? Keep the colors, but make them paler than “current” events.
Skygaze December 2, 2011, 11:44 AM EST.
I understand that Sandy is just concerned for Mike…
But she thinks that there is only one type of friendship.
Lucy and Mike are BEST friends. That’s why they fought before and always never too it to heart too much.
Sandy doesn’t understand that Lucy is just that kind of person. The angry slightly violent person but has good intentions mostly. I mean Sandy should understand there is a REASON they are friends.
Or maybe she does realize it and think Mike is in love with someone else and is jealous and the whole “innocent sweetheart” thing could be an act. Maybe she only acts this way because THAT is how Mike remembers her.
BUT I AM OVER-ANYLISING I AM SURE!
Mr. Morningstar December 2, 2011, 11:48 AM EST.
Oh god… I remember when I used to think like Sandy, when I was a kid… Worse days of my life. Ruined by my own self.
I can see where this is going… Michael, DROP OUT! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! This is a train wreck going full speed towards a dam barrage!
Billy MT December 2, 2011, 11:51 AM EST.
As you say “if accepted by both sides.” mike didn’t like it but he put up with it anyway. Lucy didn’t give anything back. He was the giver in the relationship and she needed him so he felt obligated to help her. He was a good friend but she wasn’t to him. Yes there were times where they had fun. But one day mike stopped doing it to be nice and did it because she needed him. That wasn’t selfish at all. That’s SELFLESS. one day he said enough was enough. They’re not perfect, Mike wasn’t happy. He needed to do what he needed to do to focus on himself for once.
I don’t deny that there are some situations where playfighting is ok and it’s like a secret inside joke/secret friend language, but really what it is, is people using it as a cover to avoid saying how they actually feel. Lucy admitted to doing this.
Even though Mike is sort of yelling it out, Lucy had MANY SIGNS and had the chances to be prepared. She got told at acupulco, after when mike didn’t talk to her, and when he didn’t so anything for her birthday. This was a long time coming and Mike tried to “let her down easy by distancing himself from her but she doesn’t get that he’s trying to get her to stop being dependent.
Let’s give Lucy some credit though, she doesn’t need him anymore and they did legit have fun before Sandy called, and she’s talking to other people, and she just wants to try and be actual friends with Mike. I like that. But Mike still needs time to heal from the buildup of all re abuse over the years and it’s too late to forget all of it but also to early to start being on good terms again.
Ven December 2, 2011, 11:55 AM EST.
I like your comment, it impresses me. (not that it matters, of course…)
Doodlebug December 2, 2011, 11:57 AM EST.
FLASHBACK FLASHBACK FLASHBACK FLASHBACK FLASHBACK
FLASHBACK FLASHBACK FLASHBACK FLASHBACK FLASHBACK
TAESHI SAID FLASHBACK 4 TIMES IN THE COMIC DESCRIPTION. ANYONE WHO THINKS THIS ISN’T ENOUGH IS RETARDED.
Ven December 2, 2011, 11:59 AM EST.
What a cry baby bitch, she now’s she’s jealous and was trying to breakup their friendship!
THE BITCH DID IT SO HE WOULD HATE HER AND SHE’S COMING OVER TO SEAL THE DEAL TO!!!
I hope her corps rots in Hell
p.s. sandy really is cry a baby though.
Rozon December 2, 2011, 12:10 PM EST.
you say that mike didn’t like it… go read “confrontation”, page 7, table 2. and remember that drunk people are sincere.
maybe playfighting is a cover between a boy and a girl, but not between boys. you don’t need to say all the time “we are friends, we are happy together”… it would be boring (and strange) asd. so playfighting boys are not dumb, you see (it’s what I understood from what you wrote).
I don’t think mike is trying to stop lucy being dependent on him…
boh... December 2, 2011, 12:12 PM EST.
Confrontation was before he called Sandy and asked her where they stood as far as a relationship. He even mentions Sandy when he’s drunk too.
Ven December 2, 2011, 12:16 PM EST.
O.k. Sandy is REALLY overreacting.
…aaaaaaand Dat *** :3
Your Mom December 2, 2011, 12:22 PM EST.
friends hurt each other, my best friend broke my arm and a few ribs were still best friends.
kickash December 2, 2011, 12:24 PM EST.
Any rational person’s opinion of Sandy should be neutral.
There are things though that make me concerned however. I wonder how much of a mastery Sandy has over her emotions, since on Page 5 of To The Top you can see her change her disposition in a heartbeat. I also wonder whether or not she’ll use her relationship with Mike as leveridge to end Mike and Lucy’s friendship.
Then I’ll hate her.
Just Saiyan December 2, 2011, 12:26 PM EST.
While I’ll agree with some saying that Sandy does care for Mike and his well being like a good girlfriend, and that is infact very admirable. But it just feels like she’s the one who orders him what to do in this relationship, which could end with Mike being the bitch and Sandy wearing the pants. The thing is, I already saw such a scenario happen between two friends of mine, eventually it came down to my friends GF telling him what people he should hang out, and he just dumped her. I’m not saying Mike will do the same with Sandy, but he must decide for himself with whom he’ll be friends and whom he won’t, Sandy shouldn’t have any power over this, honestly it just makes her appear as to much of a control freak and less of a good person.
Kanashe December 2, 2011, 12:28 PM EST.
oh ****, is the protective tipe
WHAT A SURPRIZE
wolfile December 2, 2011, 12:28 PM EST.
I HATES YOU SANDY. YOU’RE SPONGEBOB FORM WAS BETTTUR
HUR HUR HUR
BURN THAT B(W)ITCH
RAAGIIN MIKEXLUCY FAN December 2, 2011, 12:29 PM EST.
I just can’t feel sorry for Lucy. You spend so much time keeping people at arm’s length and pushing people away, don’t be surprised when those people leave. Mike got it worse because she likes him. A LOT. So she pushed him away harder and Mike the Doormat took it like a champ. Now that he’s decided he doesn’t want to be the Doormat anymore, she’s in full damage control trying to pull Mike back in, but she obviously has no idea what she’s doing and making things worse. You made your bed, you gotta lie in it.
And really, “She tried to slap me across the face”? JEEZ. That’s not a friendly move no matter who you are. A physically-delivered “F*** YOU” if I ever saw one. I don’t blame Sandy for wondering what’s up with Mike not being a little ****** about that (her A-BLOO-HOO-HOO’ing aside.)
TK December 2, 2011, 12:29 PM EST.
ah… well thank you for this taeshi, my hatred for mike has waned
Thespianut December 2, 2011, 12:29 PM EST.
My friend slapped me around the face with a book today, I didn’t care I laughed. I’d only be ****** if I told him to stop and he didn’t. Mike never bothered to talk to Lucy about it. I think it’s wrong to give her no warning like that. If he had explained to her he disliked it instead of laughing along and encouraging her none of this would have happened.
Kite December 2, 2011, 12:31 PM EST.
This girl doesn’t know what a little play fighting is?!? Well, I suppose, different cultures, being raised differently can give you a differeny point of view on allot of things, but he should try harder to explain that instead of just going with the flow ‘cause his girl’s a sook
Troubling to see the flashbacks…
Aquarian December 2, 2011, 12:33 PM EST.
@QuetzaDrake Like I said 10 hours ago. We will know more on Monday, but at the same time, I think that Mike really hasn’t “grown a pair,” as some people are thinking. He still relied on Sandy’s opinion to shape his own. It will take someone else to straighten this all out in the end. Either Abbey, Paulo, or even Tess. I’m pulling for Tess. It could be her redemption.
Renadt December 2, 2011, 12:38 PM EST.
I’m starting to emphasize with this situation. I had the role of mike and a friend was being like sandy. Kind of generalizing my best friend or being rubbed the wrong way by her behaviour anyway the friend kind of said some flippant things I took to heart and I was a little mad at my best friend for those comments. Luckily it didn’t get blown out of proportion and I realized that she was just being herself I shouldn’t feel upset with her.
I can see where mike got brainwashed along the way and his influences are stronger considering he does care a great deal for sandy. It’s just a shame he couldn’t think for himself and realize that they are friends despite difference in opinion.
dimes should have stores December 2, 2011, 12:47 PM EST.
I’m not impressed with Sandy’s lack of character depth at the moment. Right now she just looks like a whiny, insecure bitch.
ObsidianSnow December 2, 2011, 1:04 PM EST.
I can’t really feel sorry for Mike or really support him for his actions. I don’t hate him and its not wrong to be mad at someone for hitting you or anything.
However, he is acting exactly like Lucy did with him. Lucy relied on Mike to help shape her world and be a crutch. Mike is basically doing that with Sandy. He is relying on someone who lives miles away and probably doesn’t really understand the deal with him and Lucy to make a choice on his friendship with Lucy. I’m not saying Lucy is the best of friends, but for someone he “hates” so much, what was the deal with the video games, laughing and even the blushing? Anything, such as Lucy, that might tear that little world he lives in apart is a threat to his stability. Heck, for all we know, he could be telling Lucy he hates her simply cause he fears loosing Sandy.
Just as Mike was Lucy’s crutch that kept her from falling, I think the same could be said with Mike and Sandy.
WildChoco December 2, 2011, 1:05 PM EST.
its not just because i’m a mikexlucy shipper, but i think sandy is being a TAD bit too overemotional. by god, you cant even REMEMBER lucy. was she THAT unimportant? i guess she was because you were always with you’re dear “Maishul” huh? darn, i’m getting to into this, i’m starting to talk to an imaginary character …
anyway, i respect her concern, i really do. heck if i knew my boyfriend was being beat up i’d be mad. but if it were by a GIRL, then i’d tell him to man the hell up and not take it like a sissy, i wouldnt cry my eyes out.
i agree with @dimes should have stores. mike was too easily influenced and didnt assert himself enough when he said he and lucy were friends.
lets see how this plays out then …
sigh... December 2, 2011, 1:07 PM EST.
a couple of words to mike
blackpanther360 December 2, 2011, 1:08 PM EST.
Aw ****, dawg. I totally love that train of thought. As Mike was Lucy’s crutch, Sandy is Mikes. Makes Mike look like a hypocritical assclown. Why couldn’t Mike confront Lucy even earlier about her abusive tendencies, instead simply bottling them up, and unleashing them before having these conversations with Sandy?
Just Saiyan December 2, 2011, 1:12 PM EST.
Hmmm, I’m still trying to pinpoint where this conversations started happening….I think it was before the beach arc….or was it?…..hmm…….
Fu-Rank December 2, 2011, 1:16 PM EST.
I don’t usually comment (mostly because I prefer reading the debates rather than get mixed up in them), but I’d just like to say to Taeshi that I’m sorry so many people are missing the point. I remember when the signs that Mike was was getting sick of her and thought she was abusingfirst came up, I actually went back and reread the archive. It gave me a different percpective on what’s been going on, and even though I think both sides are kind of in the wrong, I’m not surprised by what’s happened, and I can’t blame any of the characters for acting the way they do. The fact of the matter is, Lucy and Mike’s relationship is abusive, and Sandy has every right to act the way she is. I can only hope that in the end everything turns out alright for all these characters in the end.
Floweramon December 2, 2011, 1:41 PM EST.
True Mike could have brought it up earlier and prevented this little lash out. After all, it does look like Lucy is attempting to correct the error of her ways.
Lucy isn’t in the right. Hurting your friend so bad that they limp? That’s not rough housing, that’s abuse…I sort of went through that with my family and it’s not right. Sandy isn’t in the right either. She doesn’t know much about Lucy and Mike’s friendship. Mike is also not in the right for lashing out at his friend like this instead of talking to her before.
I admit Lucy is messed up in the head and I believe her actions towards Mike are wrong. Before we going raging on characters however, we need to consider these facts: we don’t know alot about sandy yet, we don’t know about Lucy’s past before school (I never saw a father for her which might or might not explain some things) and things just aren’t black and white in this story. We should wait for more pages before laying down who we should and shouldn’t hate in the end.
That, in my opinion as a writer, is what makes this story so great.
WildChoco December 2, 2011, 1:41 PM EST.
You know, most actual relationships have conflict as opposed to “endless sparkles and bliss” like Mike seems to have with Sandy. Not saying Sandy is portrayed as bad but jeez it’s a bit much sometimes
Blank100 December 2, 2011, 1:43 PM EST.
Yeah it wasn’t obvious that this was a flashback. Don’t get all angry when the readers can’t tell.
Jay Tea December 2, 2011, 1:56 PM EST.
Aaaaahhhhhhh, I can’t take this angst anymore. Lucy has to grow up. Mike has to stop being a wuss. Sandy has to stop… I don’t know, but she does.
Ryoushi-kun December 2, 2011, 2:06 PM EST.
Actually, it’s very obvious this is a flashback.
1)Lucy isn’t there
2)The last page was also an obvious flashback
3)Exterior shot broke up this page from the previous page so we know it’s different from the previous page/flashback
4)Mike’s scarf is different.
So, if you were reading this all in context, you would pretty much know it’s a flashback. If you were confused you would read the dialogue, realize something was weird, go back a few pages to read, and then you should be able to come to the conclusion that this is a flashback.
Don’t get all angry when the authors don’t hold your hand through their story and expect you to reread/keep up with what’s going on.
Rereading did wonders for me a few days ago and I’m none too surprised with this either. I don’t think either side is right, and I don’t think Sandy is wrong to be upset, but the crying kind of ****** me off. Not sure why.
The distance is probably a bit of help with avoiding conflict.
They both have a common enemy (distance and time), a common goal (being together at some point), and don’t spend a lot of time with each other so there’s not much of a chance to get really annoyed or upset with each other.
Xiface December 2, 2011, 2:14 PM EST.
Sandy<======very hot and attractive…………..only catch. mind set of a 3 year old everybody
JustSomeCritic December 2, 2011, 2:16 PM EST.
I just think it’s interesting how inconsistent Mike’s phrases are (unless I’m missing something). “I HATE YOU” becomes “she’s a good person/ my friend.” Also, the fact that Mike blew up on Lucy after she basically said “I’m glad you’re happy now” becomes “SHE threw the biggest tantrum.”
But you know. Time can do that to a story. Anyway, Sandy cares and anxiously is trying to put pieces together, but I feel like it’ll hit Mike in the wrong way….I can’t wait for Monday!
Chi.chan December 2, 2011, 2:17 PM EST.
Taeshi December 2, 2011, 2:20 PM EST.
You know something..
Maybe sandy is perfect. She’s an innocent little lamb. And she can be as sacrifical as one too. If this chapter ends with Augustus and Lucy having a conversation about these events, there will surely be heartbreak, nay, tragedy at sometime during Sandys visit.
As long as the previous chapters are canon, anyway.
Just Saiyan December 2, 2011, 2:21 PM EST.
I think that’s just human (or cat) nature. We misinterpret things and look at thing only from our own perspective, especially when we’re telling a story, especially if makes us look better and them look worse, especially if the person we’re talking to doesn’t know the person, AND especially since Mike can pretty much only talk to Sandy about Lucy’s ******** without ******* the rest of his friends off and/or getting his abuse blown off by them.
Xiface December 2, 2011, 2:26 PM EST.
dont you radicals think your getting out of hand just a little?
dont get me wrong imean hardcore mikexlucy fanboy over here but really guys calm your hateboners and let it all unfold
steve December 2, 2011, 2:29 PM EST.
I can understand Sandy’s concern to an extent, but the crying? Really? What is she, three? Grow up, little girl, and just say it, don’t sob it. I’d rather see angry, protective Sandy than a little whiny goop-ball. There’s a big gap between concerned and hysterical, and she leapt it like she had eagle wings.
PossiblyVenomous December 2, 2011, 2:30 PM EST.
We all need friends (and they also act as crutches)
You might be right, he could do thiss to lucy because of Sandy … then again it would be A LOT simpler to avoid telling things about lucy to Sandy … that way he would loose none of them. (I mean not loose Lucy in sense of a friend)
you have no idea of female psychology do you?
… you’re a bright guy.
Zarylo December 2, 2011, 2:35 PM EST.
The first page of the flash back.. when I read it I thought the rest of what happened between Mike and Daisy that night had happened already and this was taking place after. Only after the second page, when Sandy is all like “FRIENDS DON’T DO THATT”, I realized that it was a flash back cause Mike said she helped him realize that Daisy wasn’t his friend. And as for the scarf… I don’t know I just thought he had taken it off..?
Edit: OH GOD POSTED ON WRONG PAGE LOL. IM COOL. wow how can I stop.
Jay Tea December 2, 2011, 2:37 PM EST.
I had (or are actually still having i guess) a long distence relationship. And i understand why Sandy is reacting in that way. (because i did a similar thing)
If your loved one has problems, issues or pains and whatnot you want to be there for him/her. Now If your beloved one is really far far away and mentions something that is “not a big deal” (but is one in your opinion) you want to check up on the situation … but you can’t since he/she is too far away … so all you can do is ask questions about what is happening and give (with or without force) some advice.
You will slowly break because there is nothing you can do; that’s what’s happening with Sandy, and that’s why she reacts in this way … (and that’s why she’s crying @ possiblyvenomous)because she fears for the well-being of mike.
@ Taeshi: I’m seriously impressed by the psychological logic in the comic. Thumbs up
Zarylo December 2, 2011, 2:47 PM EST.
My goodness, Sandy is overreacting. Lucy can be really aggressive sometimes, but it isn’t that bad…
You should grow up and stop arguing, it’s just a (wonderful and awesome) comic.
Cthulu December 2, 2011, 2:56 PM EST.
aw yah i smell a breakup
Nolames December 2, 2011, 2:58 PM EST.
Sandy, your concern is understandable, but no need to cry, right?
Michael, once again the question of $ 1,000,000:
You are trying to convince others or yourself?
Jack Silvermoon December 2, 2011, 3:00 PM EST.
i start to suspect 90% of the comments here are written by people not reading the comments.
@Nolames, Why would there be a breakup? I’ts a hard time for Sandy see his boyfriend “suffer” but takes more than that to end a relationship.
Zarylo December 2, 2011, 3:02 PM EST.
@Zarylo Thank you! I have an online friend and I constantly want to help him and such but since I can’t do anything I tend to be very sensitive about issues that come up for him even when he say’s everything is okay. And i’d cry my eyes out even if it’s not a big deal, because you don’t know that! You didn’t see anything and for all you know they could be sayin’ it’s okay just so you don’t worry you or something which makes you freak out more. I don’t think it’s because she’s sheltered but because she cares alot. And sure she’s sheltered but why hate her for it? It’s not like it’s her fault she’s sheltered geez. Sandy can’t see how aggressive Lucy is or isn’t it’s not her fault if she doesn’t know either. Sandy and Lucy were never good friends Sandy would invite her to play but out of kindness and maybe sympathy they never were like the best of buds so it’s understandable she wouldn’t remember her.
Trouble December 2, 2011, 3:06 PM EST.
She’s kind of right. Friends normally don’t assault other friends.
nAar December 2, 2011, 3:09 PM EST.
I hate Sandy. She seems too obsessive over Mike and her crying is annoying.
KairaWolf December 2, 2011, 3:12 PM EST.
So, would you like to explain your particular brand of crazy to the audience Sandy? We’d LOVE to know.
Krys the Wytch December 2, 2011, 3:21 PM EST.
Everyone go read Trouble’s Post, it contains all of the essence!
@nAar: yes it kind of is. Depends on the age.
What Mike and Lucy are doing wrong is not talk to each other about their problems, whishes. Mike should have told Lucy that he dislikes … um … being treated that way (this sounds weird i know). He obviously cares in some way for lucy, he wouldn’t cry otherwise. If they only found a solution when it was not too late.
@KairaWolf: why why WHY do people like you just not get it? Can’t you take a deeper look into the plot?
Zarylo December 2, 2011, 3:30 PM EST.
I think everyone should let go of this needless rage -.- I mean sure, the story is great and we all hate/love the characters. But getting this upset over a few (can’t stress this enough.) Fictional characters seems like a massive waste of energy to get so pissy over -.- but on another note it just shows how well the characters are written to get these sort of reactions. Even if they are out of hand
Leo December 2, 2011, 3:31 PM EST.
I was wondering, if the current story arc is happening in December, at what month is the school play planned to premiere? Thanks for the answer.
potemkin December 2, 2011, 3:31 PM EST.
i love this comic because its hard to take sides because we slowly get to know the characters so well
onomnom December 2, 2011, 3:32 PM EST.
Tcj333 December 2, 2011, 3:33 PM EST.
THIS. I think the same thing about her. Sorry if I’m bashing, but that’s my opinion. I really hate her. :I
Maii December 2, 2011, 3:34 PM EST.
sandy. You should burn in bloody hell.
I am sorry to say that, but srsly. SHE RUINED EVERYTHING
Tika December 2, 2011, 3:37 PM EST.
I think so too, but that’s my optimistic side. My pessimistic side says those commenters are narrow minded idiots
Sorry for the friendly fire earlier, I was in the zone. Now I’m just frustrated at certain narrow minded individuals
strider December 2, 2011, 3:37 PM EST.
I understand how Sandy must feels, living so far from the one she loves and hearing about how a girl that he considers as a friend treats him…
It’s normal for her to react like that anyone would, but however she’s only judged Lucy by what she’s heard when she doesn’t know the first thing about Lucy…
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve learned enough about Sandy to know she’s a kind person. But in her attempt to protect Mike she’s also unknowingly hurting Lucy. If Sandy had a chance to get to know Lucy I’m sure she would finally see the good person that Mike once knew…
The same good person that kept Mike’s hopes up when Sandy moved away, the same good person that jumped into a river to save Mike despite the fact she couldn’t swim, the same good person that cried as she said “Don’t leave me!” when she thought Mike was dead…
So if you ask me, I’d say Lucy has always been a true friend to Mike. It’s just at first she found it hard to let out her true feelings.
AlphaMoon December 2, 2011, 3:38 PM EST.
I have thusly decided: I do not like Sandy.
hiromiyamoto27 December 2, 2011, 3:39 PM EST.
Well, I get the point that she’s being nice, but…..
Excuuuuuuse me princess Sandy, but you need some advice on social relationships with tomboys. Not that Lucy deserves the BEST of defenses, though…. I mean, she does go overboard quite often…
spicybleachedhead December 2, 2011, 3:42 PM EST.
Hm…. it seems that Sandy is nothing more than a manipulator… trying to eliminate the competition seems to be her game.
Rofloraganaflorgan December 2, 2011, 3:43 PM EST.
@hiromiyamoto27 thus what?
spicy and rofl, are the two of you being serious?
(bad comment warning no# 5 in a row)
Zarylo December 2, 2011, 3:45 PM EST.
Hahahaha it’s funny because you are all saying Sandy should know better but you wouldn’t care a crap if you were in her position.
TehLulzinator December 2, 2011, 3:46 PM EST.
Guys, think of this from Sandy’s point of view. She loves Mike, and obviously doesn’t want him to get hurt. You wouldn’t sit by happily while your father beat your mother, would you? Sandy is trying to protect Mike the best she can while she is so far away, and the only way she can help is by telling Mike that being friends with Lucy will only harm him. And, Sandy`s right. Look where being friends with Lucy got him. Things only started to be good for Mike when he split up with Lucy, and that`s just the way it is.
Wolf December 2, 2011, 3:47 PM EST.
Also, the ONLY thing Confontation tells us is that Mike think’s Lucy is cute. We see that later when she sings. That proves physical attraction. Nothing else. We can’t prove anything else with certainty.
Ventus December 2, 2011, 3:48 PM EST.
*Highfives TehLulzinator* Thank you!
Zarylo December 2, 2011, 3:48 PM EST.
In my honest opinion..Sandy had moved away and Lucy has been there for Mike through thick and thin. Yeah she abuses him but I think that’s the way she shows she cares for him greatly. Mike doesnt deserve Lucy, Paulo deserves Lucy cause he cares for her greatly
Amai December 2, 2011, 3:48 PM EST.
Well here are my observations (don’t mind me )
I think that Sandy is genuinely concerned for Mike - at this point of the flashback. That may change.
She is also paranoid (like most girls in a relationship) that Mike’s falling for Lucy, which may at a later date cause her to be manipulative enough to make him say that he hates Lucy.
On the other hand, Mike may have had an epiphany due to Sandy’s concern about his situation with Lucy and he obviously remembers the amount of times Lucy’s hurt him, physically, mentally, intentionally and un-intentionally. So he may genuinely have had enough of Lucy’s attitude.
It’s all very confusing and I’m trying to keep a neutral viewpoint and not bash any of the characters/pairings.
Overall, this page is truly food for though. Well done Taeshi. (:
JustAndie December 2, 2011, 3:54 PM EST.
I think I dislike Sandy now
The Doctor December 2, 2011, 3:56 PM EST.
Sandy is obviously the jealous type. You can tell from this page. And Lucy is a violent-flirt type. I feel bad for Mike in both situations, he has to give up his friend because his girlfriend is jealous and she has led him to believe that Lucy is a bad person just because she is violent by crying and acting like its horrible. And with Lucy she is very violent towards him, and if they ever did get into a relationship they would probably scream at eachother everyday and be extremely unhappy unless she changes how she acts in a relationship. I think Sandy it the better choice here because she is looking out for Mike’s well being despite the hint of jealousy.
Either way you shouldn’t be saying “Kill the witch” or “Lucy is such a bitch” because whether you like the pairing or not, its going to happen. Also for people fighting with eachother about mikexlucy and mikexsandy. It isnt your comic, grow up. Sandy doesnt know what lucy is like, she is hurting lucy too and no one deserves that. Like Alpha said is Sandy got to know Lucy it would probably be different, but seriously, Lucy needs to stop being so violent, if sandy knew how much Lucy had helped him then maybe she wouldnt react this way but she did so. yeah.
Hi December 2, 2011, 4:03 PM EST.
The “do you love her” comment just kinda came out of nowhere, I think Sandy remembers exactly who Lucy is. I really can’t stand Sandy not because I’m a MikexLucy shipper ‘cause I could careless who Mike ends up with but something about little miss perfect makes me want to punch her in the face.
Rii December 2, 2011, 4:05 PM EST.
So that’s what’s the fuss about it
Feline-Gamer December 2, 2011, 4:07 PM EST.
ohhhhh no… thats sooo wrong… “a real friend would never do that to you”
thats ALL FRIENDS DO TO YOU!!
Sue December 2, 2011, 4:15 PM EST.
Sue? your second name is not by any chance Lucy?
Zarylo December 2, 2011, 4:19 PM EST.
Mike. QUIT LYING, K?
A December 2, 2011, 4:26 PM EST.
******* of cat… sandy… stealing my man… WHAT NEXT *****?!?! YOUR GONNA TAKE PAULO FROM ME TOO??!?! …. hi paulo
PAULO: oh u think im YOUR man
louise ( my cat ) : wellll…. a little
PAULO: then c’mon i know the best place to go
louise ( my cat ) : ok first * whoops yashys *** * ok lets go
PAULO: * runs in the place we secretly going to *
louise ( my cat ): bye ppl
who wants to see my cat ill send a link in my next SOONEST comment bye!
luvercandy December 2, 2011, 4:36 PM EST.
Sandy does know Lucy… If you have read the comic you should know that. Sandy came after Lucy during their elementery school time. Besides I like a girl that is that “violent-flirt” type, honestly she’s really sweet once you get to know her. She doesn’t date though, although I really wish she did. Either way usually once they get in a relationship they mellow down a lot, atleast in my sight. Hi don’t forget this may not be their comic, but this is their comment. They can say what they want and you can never change their mind even if you want too.
Anhysbys December 2, 2011, 4:38 PM EST.
Lame. Sandy is lame. Stop taking it so seriously. Mike stop acting like a victim. You were as much a joker as Lucy was. Pfft you cried over something that stupid then life will WRECK YOU. She’s taking it all out of context, we might not have seen the altercation but it’s not like Lucy is ****ing beating him. Jesus Mike and Sandy grow a pair. Although I do have to say I would not want to get slapped- but if they were yelling in that manner that makes us all laugh (like in anime, manga, and cartoons) where characters become extremely boisterous and hilariously ****** at each other and they slap punch and fight. But it’s not like they abuse one another. It’s comedy. The way Mike’s phrasing things makes him appear like a victim when I really don’t feel like he is one.
Hurr December 2, 2011, 4:40 PM EST.
@ snoreegore (sp?)
Uh, cry some more? be worthless? Tell Mike what a horrible friend Lucy is? lol
I just think Sandy is too nice, I hate these nice sappy bitches.
Hurr December 2, 2011, 4:43 PM EST.
I don’t like Sandy. I hope mike and lucy will become friends before christmas!!
defutz December 2, 2011, 4:43 PM EST.
BURN THE WITCH. not really. im not a mikeXlucy shipper, or a lucyfer-ist. sandy is showing that she cares about mike here, in her own way. she’s asking about mike, and is genuinely worried. however, the whole “a friend would never do that to you” thing lets show a crack in her ‘perfect’ personality. lucy and mike have a relationship like many of my friends, albeit with less screaming. it seems sandy thinks that for someone to be a friend, they have to be one of those 60s nuclear families. no fights, only standing for eachother. sadly, thats not how it works. however, i noticed something. last page, sandy had to be told about lucy, and only showed faint recognition. however, with the “do you love her” line, it seems she remembers lucy. seems a bit sketchy. although, last page mike had no scarf, so this is later, and this phone call could have happened enough times to warrant that. one last thing: GET CHO HAIR OUTA YO FACE! U WANT ZITZ FER YO MODELIN SHOOT? *snortey-laughy-thing*
curtisimo - SPAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!
curtisimo December 2, 2011, 4:45 PM EST.
The drama continues….
Mangoes December 2, 2011, 4:48 PM EST.
A short rhyme by Ventus.
Why so much Sandy bashing to make you frustrate,
When your real problems are inside, insecurities and hate.
Being innocent and “pefect”, is it so threatening to you?
that hostilities arise, because you wish you were that too?
When your loved one is hurting, from abuse they can’t notice,
would you leave them in ignoance? Or help them to focus?
Is it so hard to realize she’s not evil or possessive?
Some of these statements are very excessive.
Friends sometimes hurt each other, in play or in jest,
But Lucy it seems, failed Mike’s friendship test.
Hopefully their other friends will see what’s wrong,
And help them through this, while getting along
Lucy, to her credit is finaly changing,
But Mike just needs time, to calm down from his raging.
Is their friendship over? Forever? Kaput?
Taeshi will show us in time, what’s afoot.
Friendships are emotional, as we’ve seen them unfold,
Thus ends my rhyme, of Bittersweet Candy Bowl.
Thank you for reading
Ventus December 2, 2011, 4:49 PM EST.
idk if i were his girlfriend i wouldnt have a problem with it..especially if my boyfriend didnt
who else thinks sandy views lucy as a giant ape by this point?
i dislike sandy because i dont know her personality honestly..and i dont think she knows the situation enough to be CRYING about it. It must be because I tend to not cry in front of people (or on a phone) so seeing someone cry and make someone else worry over something that they dont fully understand is weird
moo December 2, 2011, 4:50 PM EST.
Jesus Sandy’s a wimp! i hurt all of my friends…not like a serious hurt but a playful fun hurt you know? and I’m a girl -_- is it so wrong? lol
RAWRcoon December 2, 2011, 4:54 PM EST.
Ventus you sly genius I really like!
everyone else harrow with despite!
Zarylo December 2, 2011, 5:00 PM EST.
My theory is that, now Lucy is going to freak out and blame sandy for keeping mike from her. Mike gets really angry at her for bad-mouthing Sandy (unfoundedly too), and she runs away crying.
Later, Lucy gets a good talking-to (or just thinks by herself) to make her realize that what sandy says is true and that she was being completely abusive and stupidly tsundere. Like that time during and after the Acapulco Arc (ch. 42 - 48).
P.S. Read chapter 49. It pretty much sums up the whole BCB story.
Edit: After Posting I realized what a shitload of comments there actually is. =|
You have a successful webcomic, Taeshi
Sancta_Atrus December 2, 2011, 5:01 PM EST.
I have a feeling mike and lucy split, and that will end up splitting the whole groups of friends.
I don’t know. But I have a feeling the other friends will have to decide whether to hang out with mike or lucy.
Lara December 2, 2011, 5:04 PM EST.
Nope Sancta, i don’t think the girls are mad at each other … i think they both fear each other.
Bst thing that could happen was if those two would suddenly meet an have a chance to have a little girl-talk.
Sandy would maybe find that Lucy is no bad character, and Lucy finally may understand that she is totally treating Mike wrong …
Or well though … they just might hate each other as well … nevermind.
Zarylo December 2, 2011, 5:07 PM EST.
Ventus you are a born written genius.
Cyt December 2, 2011, 5:09 PM EST.
Well, you certainly weren’t kidding that this chapter was gonna be a doozy. Enough drama to fill a year’s worth of soap opera episodes.
Polaris December 2, 2011, 5:12 PM EST.
Thank you! First time i’ve done anything like that.
Ventus December 2, 2011, 5:14 PM EST.
Sandy is so overreacting.. If only she knew Lucy better… If only Mike would realize long-distance relationships don’t work well…
I myself love LucyXPaulo.. But I still wish Mike would be nicer to her.
marmar December 2, 2011, 5:15 PM EST.
great rhyme (or would that be a poem, i get the two confused), i really hope others will see it. although i’m banking on they won’t since it seems the majority here just jumps to the text box to put their two cents in without checking the comments.
strider December 2, 2011, 5:21 PM EST.
ohh…..just realized that these two last chapters were a mike’s backflash….
Flavio December 2, 2011, 5:22 PM EST.
It’s true that Lucy and Sandy should have known each other in elementary school, but Mike and Sandy were so deep in there own little world that even with Lucy nearby she was still miles apart from them…
So it’s pretty much like Sandy never met Lucy…
AlphaMoon December 2, 2011, 5:37 PM EST.
I like how “Do you love her?” is tinged with blue, making it a bit more special than the rest of Sandy’s speech bubbles.
Tickle Monster December 2, 2011, 5:44 PM EST.
that and the amount of time out of contact with everyone but mike means she also doesn’t remember her. memory of a person can be lost if a person isn’t constantly reminded of them.
strider December 2, 2011, 5:46 PM EST.
Everybody in the friend group will probably side with Lucy, since they all like her and Mike is irritating them more than she is.
Daisy and Abbey, however, are smart and avoid the drama, so they’d probably be neutral.
I enjoy your poem very, very much.
Tickle Monster December 2, 2011, 5:47 PM EST.
LucyXPaulo! Sweet kind Paulo <3
And yeah, mike gould be a bit nicer about this, even though Lucy has been a bitch, Mike of all people should know why! :o
*wisper* LucyXPaulo, gogogo!
Nerhat December 2, 2011, 5:50 PM EST.
Gotta hate it when people get like this >.> me and my friends hit eachother all the time! Dont see me cryin’. *rubs black eye*
Laviavani December 2, 2011, 5:54 PM EST.
Apparently, Sandy is unaware that this is a webcomic; people get hurt all the time and then are miraculously fine at which point they forget what even happened.
Random Internet Loser December 2, 2011, 6:07 PM EST.
@fnord: The number one way to manipulate someone to your own cause is to throw on the water works, Sandy is going above and beyond over trivial matters between friends, sticking her nose into their business, and having a hissy fit over it. Whether she just chooses to ignore Mikey’s part in it all, or what, here we have the finest example of “Emotional Rhetoric” - no guy is going to listen to their “girlfriend” (seriously is this even really a relationship? Mike is so stupid). She’s slowly worked him, over time, to think its okay to treat his friend(s?) like garbage, isolating them, and putting them all on the back shelf for HER. Bro’s before Ho’s, Friends before…whatever Sandy is. It’s ridiculous; it’s lead him to even annoy his FAMILY. This is a classic case of “This bint is poisonous and not good for you, run now you silly twit.”
i unno, some guy December 2, 2011, 6:07 PM EST.
And from all I saw there, Lucy was trying her best just to mend things and move along, instead he cracks open her heart and poops in it, instead saying he hates her, but I garuntee you the minute Sandy floozes out, what do you suppose will happen?
i unno, some guy December 2, 2011, 6:09 PM EST.
Hmm… I get Sandys position, but her crying really annoys me somehow…
Throughout the comic, in my perspective, I’ve seen her as a really oversensitive person, but that cares deeply for Mike. What bothers me is that I haven’t really SEEN her put much effort into their relationship, other than the phone calls, and the letter which started it all….
But the problem is, many of that content hasn’t been shown or known yet.
So I cant REALLY say she’s done squat for Mike. Because, was I there? No. I realized this thanks to the last 2 pages. I had NO IDEA Mike actually got hurt. As many others, I thought that was part of the comic, just to give it some comic relief…
I was wrong.
So I guess my view on Sandy’s different now. Not just some irritating plot device, but an irritating, sympatic, loyal girlfriend. And Lucy, well I love ya Lucy dear, but Mike DOES have a good reason to hate you. Doesn’t really justify his actions towards you, but yours aren’t justified either.
(on another note: I finnaly get Mike’s reaction to Lucy’s abrupt speech about her “knowing he didn’t hate her” in Carry Me)
C: December 2, 2011, 6:10 PM EST.
Her “face” is creepy. It’s a witch! Kill her!! KILL HER WITH FIRE!!!
Argondr December 2, 2011, 6:10 PM EST.
Okaaaay. While reading through tons and tons of comments posted on the last few chapters, I completely agreed with everyone who claimed Mike was being a jerk. However, after seeing Sandy’s interpretation of Mike and Lucy’s relationship, I now agree with the ones who say it’s pretty much Lucy’s fault. I think Sandy’s being a little over-dramatic because friends do hit and bully one another sometimes, but, hell, if it was my boyfriend’s friends acting like Lucy, I’d be a little angry too.
And I don’t even like Sandy that much.
KiraCapri December 2, 2011, 6:11 PM EST.
i think shes overreacting a liiiiittle much here
Sweet Kitty December 2, 2011, 6:12 PM EST.
I HAVE SEEN MANY GREEN LONG COMMENTS IN THIS PAGE…TAESHI IS INTERNET GOD… ( u mad troll face? )
_-SHEPERD-_ and Shephard…is only one person… LOL LOl
Shephard December 2, 2011, 6:14 PM EST.
i hate your rhymes so d@mn much,
now im going to eat some lunch.
not really, that was a great poem. i could tell you really put some thought into it, and was great in itself to even think of it, let alone suck it up and post it. great job.
@i unno, some guy
shut up. bros before hos and all that, but if this were real life, would you say that?
curtisimo - mocks trolls, yet is occasionally a troll.
curtisimo December 2, 2011, 6:16 PM EST.
I guess Mike hadn’t told Sandy that Lucy tried to save his life (not sure if it happened yet at this point). And I particularly favor Augustus, being sort of the empty loner one in the series. Not that I like him as a loner, but its just the fact that my life is ending up a lot like his. And the fact that were both Asian(sort of). I respect him and hope he ends up happy in the end. (Taeshi, I will do the unimaginable if you do anything to make his life worse….if it can get worse.)
Roxas December 2, 2011, 6:20 PM EST.
Oh gosh, Sandy, no…
Jenn December 2, 2011, 6:21 PM EST.
You know, now I’m wondering if Mike’s lashing out at Lucy not because of the way she hurts him, but the way her actions indirectly hurt Sandy.
If that’s the case, and Mike’s only reason for hating on Lucy is because Sandy disapproves of her behavior, then he really is a complete a-hole.
Still not mad at Sandy, though, nor do I think she deserves to be burned at the stake or something.
Skygaze December 2, 2011, 6:36 PM EST.
I keep reading this and feel like Sandy is faking for some weird reason *sigh’s and shake’s head* I think I need to stop watching all those Girl movies with my mom for awhile
Zen December 2, 2011, 6:47 PM EST.
About this page; I find Sandy’s suspition of Mike loving Lucy and her sorrow very interesting. Is she showing just concern or also her own fears and insecurities? If so, might she be as dependent of Mike as Lucy is, only without the vitriol? What would her reaction be about Lucy’s love confession to Mike? I’m looking forward to more of this story.
Redd December 2, 2011, 6:47 PM EST.
While I agree that Sandy is being a little bit over dramatic, you have to remember that she is (more than likely) living a sheltered life. Someone getting hurt is a BIG deal. Someone you care about getting hurt is even worse.
I’ve always agreed with the aspect that Lucy didn’t treat Mike right. Sandy made him question things he might have never sat down to question before. Sometimes you just accept friendships as what they are, then you see others friendships and realize something is wrong. Lucy made an attempt to correct what she was doing wrong, which was a step in the right direction.
However that does not excuse Mike’s actions. Yes it is understandable in ways, but that doesn’t make it right. There were much better ways he could have gone about it. Lucy was originally the one acting childish and now Mike is the one acting childish.
Regardless it is good that he has found such a caring person. Hopefully she will rub off on him.
Or leave him. That’s ok too.
Kara December 2, 2011, 6:48 PM EST.
Hmmm a little bit of a drama queen, Sandy. Hah teenagers.
But you do have to kind of wonder if she’d be making this much of a fuss if it was one of his guy friends. Guys do rough house, and no one thinks anything of it.
That One December 2, 2011, 6:56 PM EST.
Haters gon hate.
Shan-Chan December 2, 2011, 6:57 PM EST.
…Ok is it just me, or is Mike kinda mixing up the story to make himself sound like the victim?
First, he says he must have “annoyed” Lucy. He warranted his kick to the shin when he told her he hated her, yet there is no mention of that. Secondly, /Lucy/ threw a tantrum? Mike was clearly looking for a fight, Lucy was just trying to be a friendly.
Now he’s trying to defend her when all Sandy (I’m assuming) has only heard bad things about her? Not only is he making him self look like the victim, but because Sandy doesn’t know any better, is making himself look like a saint in her eyes. I hope I’m just missing something, otherwise, Mike is seriously manipulating the situation to make him look good….
(Sorry for how long this is)
Megami December 2, 2011, 7:00 PM EST.
and potaters gonna potate,
dangit i swear i can’t stop that. it stays in my mind till i type it. sorry.
strider December 2, 2011, 7:01 PM EST.
THIS IS A FLASHBACK
HE NEVER SAID HE HATED HER YET AND HE DOESN’T THINK HE HATES HER YET
bla December 2, 2011, 7:08 PM EST.
So, I think the reason people are confused is that Wednesday’s page could follow right after Monday’s - that is, Mike told Lucy he hated her, she beat the crap out of him and walked out, and now he’s on the phone to Sandy. That’s perfectly plausible and not inconsistent with any of the characters; it just happens to be wrong.
Unfortunately, that interpretation covers (or could be held to cover) most of the obvious visual inconsistencies that are supposed to be cues that it’s not the same day; so to realize that it’s wrong you have to pick up on the more subtle things, and many people didn’t. I didn’t.
Some people apparently still haven’t even though it’s been made pretty explicit now… get with the program guys :-)
ocelot December 2, 2011, 7:15 PM EST.
I’m not sure what to make of this page.
But..uh…WHOOOO AN UPDATE <3
Lolly December 2, 2011, 7:20 PM EST.
I can’t help but think there’s a MLP FiM reference in here.
Rob64 December 2, 2011, 7:23 PM EST.
I wish everything would be all right between Mike and Lucy again..
But I’m pretty sure that’s never going to happen.
PLUS, then we wouldn’t have an awesome drama
Sandra December 2, 2011, 7:32 PM EST.
MAN UP Lucy
Sandra December 2, 2011, 7:34 PM EST.
Guys. I think this is maybe possibly… a flashback.
I might be crazy here, but I just got a feeling that it is.
Minty Lime Green December 2, 2011, 7:37 PM EST.
I can see where Sandy is coming from, yet I can also see where all the Sandy bashing is coming from. Is most of it just an excuse to hate her, probably. To me it seems she is overreacting, in a big way. Sure she cares for Mike, but bursting into tears is alittle exseive to me. Was her question of love out of jealousy or disbelief, I am leaning to disbelief. In her little world that would be the only way possible some one would be able to tolerate what Lucy was doing. To her its not possible that it couldn’t be considered anything but a abuse. Did Lucy take her roughhousing to far, on occasion yes I think she did.
Sandy has always had that air of naivety about her that all ways rubbed me the wrong way. I have never been fond of her, and I probably never will be, thats just me.
I also agree that what Lucy has done to Mike can be seen as abuse in one light and roughhousing in another. I don’t condone abuse, but then every one has their own opions about what is abuse to them and what isn’t. I don’t think what Lucy was doing was really abuse untill later in the story, but that is just my opinion. That doesn’t condone Mikes handling of this situation though, hate is a strong word to take back, and Lucy is just begging to start her change. I fear that his words could do some major damage to our Lucy.
I don’t consider myself a shipper, but I do admit that I wouldn’t mind seeing Lucy with Paulo or FFC. Just anyone else other then Mike for the time being, I think once they grow up and mature then I would like to see them together.
***None of this was ment to be offensive in any way, If I have offened someone then I am deeply and truely sorry.***
******I just have to say that for some reason, Sandy’s little pet name for Mike irks me to no end. No clue why, but it does ******
***Long time reader/lurker…first time poster, so go easy on me ***
Nightcrystal December 2, 2011, 7:45 PM EST.
I agree Minty, this is the impression I got as well, a continuation of the previous flashback. It’s revealing where Mike’s growing guilt and resentment was coming from over time. Our perceptions and our relationships with some are heavily influenced by others…when we care what they think of us.
This story is amazing. We all thought Sandy was perfect, but two major flaws have been suddenly unveiled about her: 1) she has a penchant for overreaction, probably a direct result from leading such a sheltered life. 2) She is judgmental as all get out; quick to leap to conclusions without waiting for further context or explanation.
She’s also had a layer stripped away to reveal that she was, in fact, jealous of the time Lucy spends with Mike in today’s comic’s conversation. I don’t list that as a flaw, though, it’s natural to be jealous of something like that. The flaw is in how you act on it.
Kaylana December 2, 2011, 7:46 PM EST.
MarshallLee11 December 2, 2011, 7:47 PM EST.
i laugh at mike’s hypocrisy, tell someone you hate them, yet still claim they are your “friend”
WiggleWonder December 2, 2011, 7:49 PM EST.
Sandy you are overreacting and you annoy me so much oh well
Tigerdolphin December 2, 2011, 7:49 PM EST.
Ugh. I understand Sandy’s concern for Mike’s well-being, but he has known Lucy for so long that this is their natural relationship. It seems that Sandy is one of those girls that over-analyzes every negative thing as something more serious than it is. It may lead to a potential downfall in their relationship. It would satisfy my MikexLucy side if this happened, but you never truly know with this comic.
Ark December 2, 2011, 7:51 PM EST.
wow, that was your first, kudos.
that being said, i agree with your ideas here. actually i’m very appreciative that you put it the way you do since the sandy bashing has been boggling and frustrating me for so long i’ve wanted to bash my head into a table, lol. i guess if you see it as an over reaction i could see that as a bit childish. i however see it as a justified reaction considering how i think sandy’s been raised, but that’s me.
i defend the character not the shipping myself, because, i believe, sandy’s personality isn’t 100% her fault. i believe her parents have something to do with this, however i have no evidence of this, except my own thoughts that her parents are of the user variety (as in their using sandy to live their lives, like most model parents do *cough*ramseys*cough.)
anyhow good first, hope to hear more from you.
strider December 2, 2011, 8:00 PM EST.
Taeshi! Why’d you stop updating the ask BCB thing?
Seikyuu December 2, 2011, 8:04 PM EST.
Y’know when a certain major character was killed off at the end of Game of Thrones, I certainly didn’t write to George R R Martin to complain. Now granted, this is a webcomic, where fan interaction is more direct. And this wouldn’t be the direction I would take these characters in if I were the creator. But it isn’t, it’s Miss Taeshi. Her webcomic. Her characters. Stop complaining.
No-one wants a story where everything that happens is predictable and likeable.
I honestly have ‘rarely’ seen such bickering about any media, let alone a webcomic. Whether that’s down to Miss Taeshi’s utter brilliance at character development and expression, or just 90% of fanbase getting a little too involved for comfort. Probably both.
Keep up the great work Miss Taeshi. *thumbs up*
Masket December 2, 2011, 8:14 PM EST.
@Strider about our last conversation. Lucy did give mike space, she wasn’t around at tess’ birthday and from what her behavior said when she wanted to hitch a ride with Augustus, she left mike alone. Mike is just being unintentionaly brainwashed to believe that Lucy is just a jerk no matter what. So let’s let karma decide on what happens
Charmdra December 2, 2011, 8:18 PM EST.
Is there a line between giving someone space and avoiding them or is this just another example of how every negative word has a possitive word that means the same thing?
bla December 2, 2011, 8:38 PM EST.
@bla giving someone space is leaving them alone to do what they want for a while
Avoiding is when you actively try to stay away, not wanting anything with that person
Charmdra December 2, 2011, 8:43 PM EST.
So then, the difference is Lucy’s intention?
She was staying away because he was being mean. There is no way to know if she was attempting not to be emotionally injured further on a daily basis or just respecting his wishes.
I would say that the frames where she looks like she wants to pop a cyanide pill because he didn’t say hello to her give her a reason to avoid him but that doesn’t really prove that she wasn’t also trying to be respectful of his wishes. So…..she might be doing both?
bla December 2, 2011, 8:50 PM EST.
Bloop! December 2, 2011, 8:55 PM EST.
I don’t hate Sandy or anything but it seems to me that she’s overreacting a bit here. I mean crying? Really? Or maybe it’s just me and my lack of sympathy. Either way, now I can’t wait for Monday.
Novachi December 2, 2011, 8:56 PM EST.
I pretty don’t care much about the comic but i understand. I’m here for sandy’s luscious hair.
Hurr December 2, 2011, 9:09 PM EST.
@Bloop! It’s not a flashback at all. People thought it was a flashback last page, so they’re being mocked.
Anyways, OBJECTION! There is clearly a contradiction in the defendant’s testimony! You just said you hated Lucy, and that you two were never friends, Mike! Then how come you just told Sandy that she’s your friend?! Can you explain this, Mike? I think not!
Turtle Hermit December 2, 2011, 9:10 PM EST.
Jesus Christ Sandy! GET OVER IT. You dont know Lucy’s situation! Shut up and go cry to your mother!
sammi December 2, 2011, 9:20 PM EST.
Heres what I dont get and what everyone seems to be overlooking. Sandy made an effort, way back when, to keep Lucy in the group. Right? Right. And Mike completely ignored her back then.
Lucy has issues about abandonment and is mean BECAUSE, not only was she a tomboy, but Mike left her when they were young to be with Sandy. Like hardcore ignored, never hung out, never talked left. And hes doing it again. No matter what you say, she has abandonment issues and everyones blaming sandy when she didn’t do it. Everyones saying Lucy is a bitch but she can’t help it. Mike’s at fault here. Im not saying Mike should have stayed her friend, but if he had a problem, fix it. Don’t say you hate someone when, in all honesty, you’re the creepy boyfriend that abandoned the friend you knew had issues for some girl.
Kenyahp December 2, 2011, 9:33 PM EST.
Real friends don’t hurt each other…there’s a difference between emotional and physical pain. Physical pain tends to be associated with certain sets of friends (easily Mike and Lucy), emotional…well that’s between the entire cast
Besides, friends bail you out of jail. Best friends are sitting next to you saying, “Man, we really f-ed it up this time.”
Kaiser December 2, 2011, 9:33 PM EST.
Sandy, that’s the type of relationship they’ve had and, suprisingly, it’s worked very well so BACK OFF.
I’m testy today. >: /
JC December 2, 2011, 9:39 PM EST.
Won’t let me edit, so let me just add: I am no way condoning Lucy’s behavior. I am simply stating that dropping a friend doesn’t seem right and not in the way Sandy wants him to, not the way he did. If theres something that really irks you, discuss it. Work on it. I get Lucy gets too rough. Sometimes I think she doesn’t realize it. Abuse is wrong, yeah. And its GOOD that Sandy cares about her bf. Hating her is stupid. But…all I’m saying is that Sandy comes off jealous in this one rather than concerned and Lucy can be bitchy but she has her good points. Dropping someone for the bad points just prove shortsidedness, like you are ignoring the good things, too. These are very insightful flashbacks, though, and my opinion is constantly changing and developing. Very nice.
Kenyahp December 2, 2011, 9:53 PM EST.
Called this page. Called it.
Now we have to wait an agonizing 48 hours to see the next page and see if we have a chance of seeing how Lucy reacts to Mike.
Taeshi, you troll.
And I know this is a bit inappropriate, but my eye can’t help but be drawn to the second to last panel.
And yes, I did just fully discover the power of the emoticons.
As to the flash back page (which I totally didn’t get that this page and the previous page, despite all clues to the contrary, were flash back pages! Except I, and anyone with half a brain totally did. ), I suppose I could never understand someone else’s line of thinking completely, even though I sympathise with her. But I have to say that I feel Sandy’s over-reacting a bit. And not one of those sarcastic bits where I really mean that I hate her interferance in the MxL relationship; I mean a real bit. I can attempt to understand being upset at your suitor being so far away, being unable to help them, and knowing that they are in pain, physically or emotionally, dealing with some problem you can’t fix and such. I’m just not seeing the reason for the full on water works. Maybe that’s just part of the additional drama involved in a long distance relationship, especially when another person is involved.
I should look up in the coments again and see if anyone else’s had any theory as to when this particular flash back (which, omg, this page is a flash back page!?! I can not believe it! ) took place. Still on a corded phone, so definitely long before he got his amazing new phone. Hm…
How do artists (for lack of a better term for writers/musicians/actual artists/spriters/web comic authors) on the internet deal with the constant idiocy of fans? I followed Alvin Earthworm for a while, ‘cause I like Sonic, Mario Bros, and DBZ, and that was the first real time I ever noticed what a fanbase was like. And looking here, I can see that it seems to be a problem everywhere. Even knowing that you were being creepily followed and stalked by a malicious bunch of rat brained slack jawed fools would turn me off to half the work people like you put in.
Glad you’re a stronger person than me. I just can’t see how the hell you make it. Between real life and the zerg-swarm of fools that haunt you, I salute people like you, Veronica, for the quality and consistency of work you put into your endeavors.
Anonymous One December 2, 2011, 10:00 PM EST.
Couldn’t have said better words than Kenyahp…
People are too caught up in what seems to be fantasy to realize that the harshness of such a ‘false’ world does not surpass their own reality.
Not sure what else to say, as honestly I believe that it’s best to read first, comment later.
(Edit: this is disregarding Kenyahp’s first post, and focused on the second only.)
Welgaea December 2, 2011, 10:00 PM EST.
I just love everybody here. I realy do. I mean Tashie said it best. They are unstable! Not the commenters i’ll get to u . The cast BSC.The whole group. There kids for christ sake and havent matured yet. Thats y this series has so many fans that pick sides and attack the others, because we love drama! I just love reading peoples opinions because i’ve seen this kind of drama so much. I don’t have an opinion i just agree with Tashie. I Agree that they r unstable. Not adult, don’t know how to handle them selfs maturly yet. People get mad at mike…..lol well so do I. I Think he needs to defend himself but i do think he went way to far and could of done it better. Again, KIDS They r kids ahhhhhhhh lol. But hey love the drama. Next up people hate lucy. Well She’s good hearted but realy needs to sort out her ishues so people can stop attacking her. People call her a bitch…does this look like a bitch to u=====> lol bad example. Next and my absolute favorite………….. Sandra ****ing D. I poked fun at her and ya i enjoyed it People attack this person so much in real life its disterbing. Every time a guy gets a girlfriend and isn’t around his own friends that much anymore what happens The friends attack the girl tell there friend she’s trying to change u were your friends bla bla bla! Shut up my god. First of all the girl didn’t change him he changes himself. If the guy wants to be souly with his gf gooooood for him. On the other side u got the gf doing the same thing back at the friends. Not Sandy. She’s pointing out she doesn’t like that he gets treated that way. If she were there she’d have put a stop to that day one with lucy. Its mike who is lashing out right now. So stop hating on her. I c this everyday with all my friends. I stay out of it. Tashie i realy want to know which cat u were in highschool lol i realy do. My guess u were Or the only two decent people in this series who remain Bi-est to the drama. As for me i will always had been this guy in my highschool years=======> The only person i can relate too.
JustSomeCritic December 2, 2011, 10:07 PM EST.
lovingly rooting for mike and lucy, but sandy’s beauty is captivating, and she is a genuine person. genuine but slightly childish… its unsettling. for reality sake, i root for sandy.
farla December 2, 2011, 10:30 PM EST.
…… I just realised that Sandy hadn’t moved, which means her second to last pose was her on her knees, not a shot of her from behind.
Holy Freudian Screw Ups, Batman!
Anonymous One December 2, 2011, 10:31 PM EST.
@just some critic,
well said, you raised some very good points in your post.
@everyone else (mostly the sandy bashers)
this will be my last post for a while but it’s gonna be brutal so deal, i’m honestly getting tired of arguing with those ******* (I of course mean the ones who say she’s overreacting, manipulative, or a spoiled brat etc…) over this subject. I’m gonna wait to see this comic play out and when it’s put right in your face that your hatred was unwarranted and you feel like s*** and total d***heads for bashing the poor girl i’ll be right there laughing your f***ing face. i’m done being nice and trying to be somewhat objective, so when what i said earlier happens don’t expect any sympathy from me. adios for now.
strider December 2, 2011, 10:33 PM EST.
@strider Dude, chill.
Anyhow, it’s wrong to let your girlfriend manage YOUR social life the same way it’s wrong for a friend to manage YOUR personal life. Draw your own conclusions, don’t let your girlfriend/friend put words in your mouth regardless of how much you care for them.
Mike and Lucy were decent enough friends until Sandy blunders in and ruins it. Not out of anger or malice but rather of concern for her boyfriend. The end result is the same even if Sandy had malicious intentions - conflict. The one thing that drives plots. Sandy in reality is a minor character in comparison to many of the characters in BSCB in terms of character development. The character’s primary purpose is to create a volatile mix between Mike and Lucy friendship. Hence, Bittersweet candy bowl.
ArkaniusXII December 2, 2011, 10:43 PM EST.
I’m friends with someone who does the same thing as Lucy. She’s got a temper, especially when I end up Ticking her off repeatedly, and she’s always calling me gay, but despite that, She IS a friend….no matter HOW loosely I use the word ‘friend’. Since I haven’t got many friends in general, and seeing as how she’s not the WORST friend in the world, I just kinda, y’know, live with it.Take what I can get, as it were.. After all, it’s not like she’s going out of her way to injure me….except for that one time during a field trip….(Shudders) Either way, THAT one I sorta deserved. I almost broke her wrist after all.
If this were You-Tube, I would ask for Thumbs up, but whatever. LOL.
LucyXPaulo4EVAR December 2, 2011, 10:56 PM EST.
To further prove how attached and effected Mike is by Sandy’s emotions, examine the panel where Mike has a drastic expression change from laughter to oh-my-god-the-world-is-ending shock after hearing just a “sniff” from her.
Yup, poor ol’ boy’s being unknowingly manipulated, even if it’s unintentional.
Michael S. December 2, 2011, 11:07 PM EST.
Take note that we can’t see ANYTHING of Sandy’s eyes in all of these frames. Suuuspiiisioooouuuussss!!!
TurtleMan December 2, 2011, 11:18 PM EST.
Hey….. Is this a flashback?
Lexi December 2, 2011, 11:22 PM EST.
Lol guys it’s called a conversation not Sandy manipulating Mike jeez havent you ever talked to a person before
Snoregore December 2, 2011, 11:25 PM EST.
I don’t hate Sandy, I don’t exactly like her either, It’s in between… She’s cute and I can see how she’d worry. But she’s too perfect…
But yet I wouldn’t bash on her or call her a bi*tch or anything. The way she’s acting now is just how she acts, but She also needs to realize that if Mike’s okay with what Lucy’s doing then she should let them handle their friendship however way.
… also, one thing that ****** me off is that Mike would of never called Sandy if it wasn’t for Lucy and then when their dating Mike is so rude to her >=(
But I can understand why Sandy would worry about Mike. My boyfriend always gets bullyed by my best friend, and it kinda reminds me of this.(‘course I think my best friend’s jealous but that’s my drama, not yours =3)
CocoTR December 2, 2011, 11:31 PM EST.
Oh so THIS is why Mike’s been such an asshat lately!
OneLonelyPickle December 2, 2011, 11:41 PM EST.
I hate how, before Sandy even said anything, Mike was fine with how Lucy acted. I mean, he knew she was aggressive and maybe he didn’t exactly adore her behavior, but he always knew she was a good friend underneath it all. Then Sandy seems to come along and make him think otherwise.
Nyxa December 2, 2011, 11:41 PM EST.
the plot thickens lets see what happens next
reaper December 2, 2011, 11:42 PM EST.
This is the very last time he isn’t mean to her.
His very next appearence where he talks to Lucy is the one where he finds out about the rebound with Paulo.
That’s both of his issues consentrated in two consecutive appearances and he hasn’t been nice since.
Actualy, there was an appearence in between but he was just seen smiling like a goofball in the hall.
bla December 2, 2011, 11:50 PM EST.
If it REALLY bothered him, he wouldn’t even let it happen. He merely tells Sandy to get sympathy. Otherwise, if it didn’t bother him and he knew it would just worry her, he wouldn’t say anything at all.
DrakesOfWrath December 3, 2011, 12:04 AM EST.
this only makes me like sandy less and less. It’s like she’s a five year old. I mean, my friends and I are usually expressing ourselves physically rather than orally. Punches, slaps, kicks, and a fractured limb (that one was my fault… and my limb), by this means we express in moments what could have taken ages to express in words. If sandy tried to have real life relationships with people around her instead of spending 24/7 on a phone with Mike, she’d know that.
This could be used to formulate the new theory that sandy has no social life whatsoever other than speaking with Mike, which is in itself unhealthy and blatantly crazy, and thus knows d*ck about close quarters friendship, mike will eventually realize that, and how wrong that is, and will tell her to go have a life instead of being with him.
Theory two, she’s spent so much time without interacting with anyone other than mike, that she turns out to be a psycho beeyatch that treats everyone like ****, or something. My mind is actually flooded with 50+ theories, but for the time being, those are the two I like the most.
Gabe December 3, 2011, 12:08 AM EST.
so its all just a big miscommunication
Thespianut December 3, 2011, 12:08 AM EST.
Welp, a big part of my argument just got stabbed through the stomach. *SHLUNK* And all that. Oh, well. I still maintain that Sandy’s reaction is acceptable, given her lack of understanding. She does seem to be flirting with the line between OK and overreacting, though.
Lyons December 3, 2011, 12:16 AM EST.
I hope it’s not bad if I feel kinda annoyed with Sandy. I mean like, so what? It doesn’t bother Mike obviously, he still realizes the friendship between himself and Lucy. Yeah, I know, Sandy doesn’t even really know Lucy. I would think that’d be a bit more of a reason to just let it go. I think of two things, either Sandy was feeling both jealous and sympathetic and she reacted that way, OR Sandy doesn’t socialize with people very often and doesn’t understand the kind of friendship Mike and Lucy have (“had” I guess. But C’mon we know they’ll get back together). Both are pretty justified I guess, I still think it makes Sandy kinda annoying.
MikexSandy supporters can cry however much they want about how this post is “demeaning Sandy” or whatever the hell it is those guys say to try to make it look like their not the ones complaining. Either way its pretty true.
Cocoron December 3, 2011, 12:19 AM EST.
Oh, I understand the why quite well, Taeshi, where the blame in this case lies, but I still say he should have never said that.
Biblioholic December 3, 2011, 12:25 AM EST.
People people please.you forogten that sandy hasentheard the entire storey here,and when she dos well let’s just I wouldn’t want to be in mikes shoes
lov/hate December 3, 2011, 12:27 AM EST.
It took me about 30 seconds to realize that was her legs, not her butt. Geez, please tell me I’m not the only one who thought that at first, I feel like a ******.
S0me001 December 3, 2011, 12:27 AM EST.
It seems that most relationships, immature ones especially, lead many friendships to their end. Jealousy can be hidden in many forms of “affection” such as concern or showing a desire to be protective. Sandy is right to be concerned; however, Mike is old enough to make choices on his own when it comes to who he spends his free time with. If Mike doesn’t see Lucy as a threat to his well-being, then Sandy should accept that and leave their friendship be—-but Sandy knows there’s potentially more to the relationship than just mere friendship so she pushes the issue. When words aren’t enough she moves on to manipulating Mike with her heartfelt sobs. Of course this makes Mike feel guilty, after all his girlfriend is crying on his account. Instead of telling Sandy to basically suck it up he decides to appease her by bashing Lucy. Did Lucy deserve it? Not in the form she got it. She needed a wake-up call that her behavior was poor at best, but she still deserved to have her friendship with Mike preserved. In short, Sandy is not my favorite character and she’d make an awful real life girlfriend/wife. Mike needs to be honest without being hurtful and Lucy needs to interact with others in a positive manner…all of which is learned with age.
AwkwardlyMorbid December 3, 2011, 12:35 AM EST.
OOOOOHHHHH! This is BEFORE the “Mike hates Lucy” thing!
Sandy does have a point there, though…
Ice Shield December 3, 2011, 12:37 AM EST.
I love you AM ;w; that’s a really good point to make and it’s what I was trying to say but you said it a whole lot better.
Cocoron December 3, 2011, 12:37 AM EST.
Thank you Cocoron!
Typing all this up on my phone is super time consuming. lol
AwkwardlyMorbid December 3, 2011, 12:43 AM EST.
Panel 10 = dat ***…
El-MerY December 3, 2011, 12:47 AM EST.
@AM: Truthful words, and I concur. And considering how you took your time typing that on your phone, you have my praise. And yeah, that ‘Mike needs to be honest without being hurtful’ part; maybe he should have taken it slowly over time instead of just dropping the whole thing at one time, eh? Well, that’s how I understand it and how I’d do it.
Harris012 December 3, 2011, 12:52 AM EST.
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagan, Elfen Leid, Two Kinds, HighSchool of the Dead, Spice and Wolf, Bittersweet Candy bowl…what do these all have in common? The make me want to go into that universe and SLAP EACH LOVE CONFUSED CHARACTER AND TELL THEM TO GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER AND SMELL THE ROSES CAUSE ITS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS WHATS HAPPENING BETWEEN THEM!
~<3 all these comics/animes though.
Leo December 3, 2011, 12:57 AM EST.
Sorry Taeshi, I don’t buy the ‘abuse’ you’re trying to sell here. Through the majority of the chapters, you depicted Mike as fine with how he was treated, even reciprocating Lucy’s more abrasive actions and comments at times. Now to simply say you’ve just ‘glossed over’ all the ‘abuse’ throughout the years and throw in some minor injuries in flashbacks, that’s simply absurd. If readers don’t understand something and have legitimate reasons for a belief, its your job to CONSIDER the possibility that your story-telling was a tad flawed.
I maintain my opinion that Sandy is currently doing nothing to advance the story line besides bringing in seemingly out-of-character drama, simply a drama-vessel, as I said before. I feel that Sandy would have been much better received in this chapter had her character been better explored before-hand, since these outbursts seem obnoxiously random.
Also, why would it be alarming for you to hear that someone thinks Mike is dealing with Lucy just fine? He does not seem worried, angry, or at all distressed beyond minor physical ailments. Mike is a big boy, and he knows how to handle Lucy. He’s not the type to go complaining about some little scrapes and bruises. And do not keep pushing the fact that he was limping. Again, he did not portray any signs of distress, just physical pain that he had quite clearly adapted to and had no qualms with beyond it being an annoyance.
Mike and Lucy’s relationship was a lot different from domestic abuse situations. To insist that they are one and the same lacks good judgement and knowledge of actual domestic abuse. Lucy acted in one of the only ways she knew, and Mike fed this and encouraged it. Lucy eventually became reflexively violent as a result. This is why it is hard for me to see Mike’s injuries as ‘abuse’. He stoked the fire then got burned. If it was your intention for their relationship to be abusive, then I’m sorry, but I think the comic needs some reworking for the term ‘abuse’ to be applicable.
KiwiKoala December 3, 2011, 12:57 AM EST.
Am I the only one here that thinks Sandy is reacting just fine? Jeez, I really hope none of you guys bashing Sandy are friends with very sensitive and caring people…..
I used to hate Sandy and how Mike acted towards Lucy too. But frankly, when you really do look back, Lucy IS pretty dang abusive and bitchy to Mike when he’s just trying to be a good friend to her. He reaches out, she angrily pushes away. We as the audience know how much she does care about Mike and how much she needs him-But Sandy doesn’t know and Mike’s had to put up with this for years.
It’s no wonder that Mike’s sick of it and no wonder that Sandy is upset when she hears about it all. Also, please keep in mind that this probably took place a good deal of time after the last flashback. Mike could have told her about more and more incidents with Lucy, and this could be Sandy finally snapping from the pain of listening to her boyfriend insist on being friends with a girl who abuses him; particularly when she just has to LISTEN and is halfway across the country, unable to help her boyfriend. How would you like it if your loved one insisted on hanging out and putting up with someone who verbally and physically abused them, while you couldn’t do a THING to help? I’m pretty certain you’d at least be a little upset-and for someone as caring and sensitive and Sandy, it’s pretty dang upsetting.
I actually really like Sandy and Mike’s relationship more now than ever…of course, I still love Lucy.
I hope she and Mike can repair their friendship someday, but frankly I think Lucy needs to move on. Mike isn’t right for her. And Mike-he’s just so happy with Sandy! They seem to really love each other and work as a couple.
Of course I’m not the writer and artist here so I can’t say what will and will not happen-and I dont know the full story. Maybe my opinions will completely change…those are just my two cents on this whole fiasco!!
Rizza December 3, 2011, 1:06 AM EST.
Wow, AM. That’s another thing I need to know in life.
BlossomWolf December 3, 2011, 1:06 AM EST.
REALLY?? Why would she CRY like really??!! Over him getting lttle slap or a little kick and she starts freakin out all of a sudden she should be crying when he gets like a broken foot or somthin, NOT when u get a little injury like THAT. BLANK FACE I LUV —->
MikexLucy fan December 3, 2011, 1:16 AM EST.
really feelin for Sandy, i wanna hug
PS, is there any way that you could condense the comments? it takes me forever to scroll down to comment
neb December 3, 2011, 1:18 AM EST.
This comic needs less Lucy defenders. I don’t think Mike isn’t right for Lucy… I think Lucy isn’t right for Mike. And to be fair, I don’t think she deserves Paulo either. So that gives the majority of shippers a reason to dislike me.
However, my opinion is based on Lucy in the present. She isn’t mature enough to handle a relationship at this point. The last thing she needs is another person to cling to. It’s preventing her from becoming self-sufficient. As Mike said, he’s not her babysitter anymore. Pick yourself up and deal.
The Observer December 3, 2011, 1:26 AM EST.
seems to me that cause mikes not telling Sandy everything there may be problems between Lucy and sandy but once the truth revealed i know that lucy and sandy wont be hating eachother but one thing in like to know is why is mike being such a jerk and making the plot so angst-a-fied and now making sandy mad at lucy when it is his fault at times.(lucyxmike fan and i like sandy cause hell she didnt do ANYTHING wrong it just mike being such a jerk and hiding it from sandy so she wont break up with him) P.S. Mike what the hell man just what the hell.
47 December 3, 2011, 1:31 AM EST.
I really can’t see why there are any lucy defenders at this point. She’s an immature, psychotic, needy, clingly, self-pitying, self-centered wreck.
Therapy and medication are in her future.
Yben December 3, 2011, 1:52 AM EST.
There are many different types of friendships, SANDY. It’s too bad you’re too much of a sissy b**** to handle some of them.
SJ December 3, 2011, 1:52 AM EST.
ugh shes so manipulative ugh i hate her although it did make mike remember how lucy was actually his friend so i guess its just ugh mixed feelings are annoying
rocky December 3, 2011, 2:06 AM EST.
Just like she doesn’t know about MikexLucy friendships,
YOU don’t know everything about anything.
Her point of view is different than Mike’s.
Mike sees it as two friends rough-housing.
Sandy sees it as Mike getting hurt, because he comes home every day to talk about more pain he gets from Lucy [Joking around or not].
Sandy probably doesn’t hate Lucy as a person (excluding her violent nature), but hates that Mike has to come home all day with a different bruise.
Also, your comment is very shortsighted, and immature. I honestly expected more from people who read this comic.
As to my original comment before I read SJ’s:
I’m feeling for Sandy. Like.
While I DO think that Mike was happy with Lucy hitting him [He saw it as friendship], his emotions for Sandy and her obvious discomfort from him getting hurt made him start thinking another way. Whether or not he honestly dislikes getting hurt by Lucy, or he’s doing it just for Sandy, is up for debate.
MrYoungzman December 3, 2011, 2:10 AM EST.
I think it’s true that this page and the last have made the abuse out to seem worse than it was portrayed. You can choose to assess that as bad storytelling if you like, but I was more generous in reading over this chapter. I personally think it’s a clever turnaround that highlights some of Lucy’s worse traits and reflects the way Lucy so often gets a free pass on behaviour that would otherwise be horrible and vicious and uncaring. I thought it good writing, but again, I can also see why it might be read the other way.
I’m personally quite pleased that the response is split, and that there are a lot of people defending Lucy and taking her side. In trying to come up with reasons that Sandy might want to drive a wedge between Mike and Lucy, I think this is getting at the heart of what’s so difficult about Lucy as a character. She’s obviously portrayed very sympathetically and is taken as such by most readers, but is that really fair?
SuitCase December 3, 2011, 2:12 AM EST.
dat tsundere deconstruction
Taeshi December 3, 2011, 2:16 AM EST.
I actually admire Taeshi’s way of showing the story. I now feel sympathy for Sandy, and kinda get why Michael is acting like that, but still not totally support it. But I understand what Suitcase is saying.
V December 3, 2011, 2:19 AM EST.
“A real friend would never hurt you” Pft. Sandy doesn’t know real friends…
Snorlax December 3, 2011, 2:42 AM EST.
I think that sandy is just jealous of Lucy and Mike’s relationship
Unknown. . . December 3, 2011, 2:57 AM EST.
Why would you be jealous of someone beating up your boyfriend.
How is that something a normal person is jealous about. :y
Pencil December 3, 2011, 3:01 AM EST.
Lucy really didn’t throw any manner of tantrum…. And I wanna smack Sandy for being such a wuss.
badoolia December 3, 2011, 3:03 AM EST.
Is it really that hard to imagine Sandy might, I don’t know, CARE about him as much as she says? Jealousy? Spite? She doesn’t remember her. All she knows is Mike seems to be getting hurt and he’s the only friend from her childhood she still has. Silly commentators are silly. The trope The Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism may be relevant to her reactions. How Mike’s denial began becomes more clear.
Hoheh is amused again. Flashing back flashback flashes back. Flashback.
Hoheh December 3, 2011, 3:06 AM EST.
@Taeshi: Thanks for the clarification on that line. I guess I was caught a little off guard since it seemed like such a powerful thing to say to somebody else. But Sandy does have a point, and I feel like she took such an approach in order to get Mike to finally realize that his passive behavior towards Lucy’s abuse was pretty unhealthy.
With that said, I wonder how Sandy would approach Lucy if the 2 were to even meet.
Pinki December 3, 2011, 3:20 AM EST.
Sandy, grow up.
Epicosity December 3, 2011, 3:28 AM EST.
I think it’s safe to say Sandy is not a bad person.
The Guy Nobody Knows December 3, 2011, 3:32 AM EST.
(seeing as I was reading the comments and didn’t get the time to edit, I have to do this)
I understand that sandy is trying to protect Mike, and that it is disgusting how people are brushing off Lucy abusing Mike. However, we all know that Lucy has a problem and isn’t as able to express her feelings like… Well… A normal person. (A normal cat?) we all know that Mike did say he cared for Lucy, so that explains why he is trying to defend her. He’s known her since pre-school (right?), and he felt bad because of the water incident and leaving her in third grade, going to show that Mike isn’t a bad guy. He “hates” Lucy (which I still don’t believe) because he has finally realized how morally wrong it is to abuse someone like she has. However, I believe that deep down the Mike from the earlier chapters is still there. Sandy has just helped him believe how WRONG it is.
Sandy needs to grow up because she seems to be overreacting to this, either that or I just relate to Lucy too much and know how to show my feelings as much as she does… But still. I understand why she’s sobbing, and how bothered she is, but she doesn’t need to overly freak out. So… I understand it, but it’s a little too much.
Lucy is at fault for abusing Mike. I mean, seriously, Luce? Is her moral compas just south or WHAT?
And that’s what I think.
Epicosity December 3, 2011, 3:53 AM EST.
I think it’s fair enough to say that any leniency toward Lucy is largely due to the fact that much of the story is told from her point of view. Had any other character had the same spotlight, many more people would sympathize with Mike. Since the reader feels more connected to Lucy, they’re more likely to side with her. Of course that’s a geralization, but I think it’s a fair one.
KiwiKoala December 3, 2011, 4:05 AM EST.
I think sandy missed the piont somewhere, me and my friends have huge fights and when we’re done trying to tear each other apart we’re ready to share a beer.
The best of friends tear into eachother sometimes and come out stronger for it.
Rjpoofy December 3, 2011, 4:15 AM EST.
Yes, Kiwi, but doesn’t this page lead you to reconsider whether it was right to be suckered in by the story’s character perspective?
SuitCase December 3, 2011, 4:20 AM EST.
Sandy’s original fault: She was sheltered
Lucy’s original fault: She liked cars
Mike’s original fault: He was susceptible to antagonism
bla December 3, 2011, 4:47 AM EST.
From that to a few pages ago? Really? It’s sad. I’ve been rereading
As much as Lucy “abused” Mike i feel that he has been horrible to her too, especially since she told him her feelings. He thinks of noone but Sandy and the way he chucks lucy to the wind (after a fun night with her) is harsh.
Hmm I dunno.. The comics great though, has got my feelings all in a jumble of what mikes doing. I hope hes just saying that he hates her to help her, the tears show its difficult for him… But I think hes definately been worn down by Sandy to see her view of the situation…. GAH! Just bring out more comics so I can see where its going!!!!!!!
Happyone111 December 3, 2011, 5:04 AM EST.
In the earlier comics there was a clear slant towards comedy over long term plot (as many internet based shows and comics do to draw readers in). Lucy’s abusive side has for the most part been portrayed more comically until now when mike is considering it in retrospective.
I think its fair to say that it’d be a tad weird/impractical/counter productive for Lucy to have been portrayed as an extremely aggressive and abusive character from the get go, so all we have ever really had to show the true level of her abuse is daisy’s comments over her and mike’s friendship in early comics like confrontation.
A lot of people may claim they have friendships just like Mike and Lucy’s, and maybe that’s true, but I don’t think many people are seriously stopping to consider exactly how Mike and Lucy’s friendship has played out. Look back at how Lucy treats mike and seriously pretend its not a web comic about cats but actually real life. Mike has done a hell of a lot to support and help Lucy, who has done comparatively little for him. Prior to Lucy’s confession, can anyone honestly say Mike ever did anything to actually war rent the beatings or the fights? Have you really ever flat out punched a mate? not some half arsed play punch that hardly leaves a mark, but a full and proper punch to the face? Because Lucy has! Here are just a few of the earlier examples
This isn’t friendly banter in physical form. This really is full and proper assault. People just aren’t seeing it that way because it was used for comedy at the time. And those are just examples of violence against Mike. Paulo and David also both received regular beatings in those early comics as well. How often have you given you’re mates blood noses? Or kicked them out of your home? If its as much or more then Lucy does, you worry me.
I understand that Lucy has social difficulties, but that’s no excuse. It doesn’t make it ok at all.
I’d urge people to go back and read earlier comics and try to ignore the comedic portrayal of Lucy’s actions. I think alot of commenters are too caught up in the moment this chapter represents and not really considering the past before the end of the vacation arc where Lucy was far more aggressive towards pretty much everyone. That was when Mike began to hate her and when he began to distance himself from her. Sure she has been a lot better recently but the damage is done.
Don’t get me wrong. I like Mike x Lucy and i like both characters fairly equally, but Lucy, over the course of the entire comic really hasn’t been any better then Mike of the course of the recent comics.
Alpharius December 3, 2011, 5:08 AM EST.
Basically, I would love to say that mike earned a fraction of his abuse when he forgot about Lucy for Sandy but that’s not totally true. It would be but mike never actually tried to be Lucy’s friend. He didn’t “forget about Lucy” when he was transferred to a different class prior to meeting Sandy, he simply enjoyed the fact that that girl who was following him around and being unpleasant was gone. The vast majority of the interaction between Lucy and Mike was entirely orchestrated by Lucy. If she had done the right thing, her reward would have been zero friends rather than one friend. So, she did the wrong thing and was rewarded with her only source of social interaction. Mikes original fault was not realizing he had been swindled. That one time when he was drunk, he said “I like your punches in my face.” That should say it all.
bla December 3, 2011, 5:26 AM EST.
sandys butt stcks out a little on pannel 10
dusgy December 3, 2011, 7:15 AM EST.
….i think that’s meant to be her lap dusgy
Alpharius December 3, 2011, 7:24 AM EST.
I actually thought the same thing as Dusgy the first time I read through this page. I dunno, just seems like a weird angle, or strangely placed shadows or something.
Kindren December 3, 2011, 7:37 AM EST.
I cant unsee it now
Alpharius December 3, 2011, 7:38 AM EST.
Don’t forget why Lucy is like this. When she grew up the only person that could tolerate her was Mike. Then Mike just up and left her. Think about that, your best friend just walking out on you leaving you with nobody, and you know he didn’t even like you in the first place. That would be a terrible thing to go through. Then as soon as number one is gone, he crawls back to number two. She finally had the spotlight. Remember when Lucy was so willing to not let Paulo (her new source of attention) go, she would even have sex with him? I think that in a way, she thinks that she can bully Mike into staying. Lucy has some issues she needs to work out, kind of like Abbey, and I hate to say it, but Mike is the cause of these issues.
Jackiesoarous December 3, 2011, 8:21 AM EST.
Mike,I think you should talk about Confrontion.As when LUCY SAVED HIS FREAKING LIFE?!
BitterSweetCandyBowl December 3, 2011, 8:49 AM EST.
Ventas, I love you. Your rhyming has officially made my day.
Also, yo, Sandy haters! Tall Poppy Syndrome, alert!
Arcaii December 3, 2011, 8:59 AM EST.
I get what you’re saying, but i don’t entirely see how mike is to blame for Lucy’s major social issues. Her violent approach to people was developed without his input. She was an aggressive loner before he came into the picture.
Prior to him beginning to hate her he was her friend and felt obliged to be there for her. what was he suppose to do? abandon her and force her to make new friends, cause he kinda did that now, and now the reader base seems to hate him for it.
Lucy isn’t really what she is because of Mike. At best Mike facilitated her continued lonerism by providing her with that one single friend but as I said, what was the realistic alternative? Towards high school Lucy at least began to widen her social horizons, and this was before all the drama between her and Mike!
As for when mike was spending most all of his time with sandy he did at least try to involve Lucy. You have to remember though that they were way way way way way younger then (wasn’t it like grade 3 or something? ), and lets face it, you don’t always make the best decisions back then, let alone in your teen years. Plus Mike has since had his revelation about how bad that truly was for Lucy and apologized over it.
@Derp. You’re example is pretty much dead on. We all laugh at slap stick on the tv, but what if we’re walking pass it on the street?
Alpharius December 3, 2011, 9:04 AM EST.
Second last panel
Raincloud December 3, 2011, 9:25 AM EST.
I don’t like Sandy. She has a rude tendency to interrupt from what we’ve seen so far, which I despise. Whenever my ‘friends’ (I don’t really consider them friends any more because we never talk at school or outside of school or even spend 2 seconds together) interrupted me, I hated it and often lost my train of thought thanks to them. Though now I don’t have that problem because I have no one to talk to at break or lunch.
And no, my dislike doesn’t stem from me being a Mike x Lucy shipper. I’d actually rather see Mike with Sandy or alone and Lucy with Jessica or alone.
@Raincloud: Those are her knees.
Moogle December 3, 2011, 9:48 AM EST.
honestly I dont post a comment often, but im love this series.
I also must say I’m a MikexLucy lover, but I dont undersatand the bashing either. We get to see more of sandy, and she just honestly cares for Mike. I understand where she’s coming from.
allycat411 December 3, 2011, 10:08 AM EST.
Why did so much people want to find someone responsible for all the mess? Nobody is “guilty”.
Sandy don’t know Lucy, and she has grown in a very protective context, it’s not her fault if she doesn’t understand what is going on. She just want to protect her boyfriend because he doesn’t defend himself for what she understand.
Lucy is not violent, it’s just a way to show her friendship -and also to hide her true feeling-, I understand that because me and my friend are constantly hitting each other, it was the same with my brothers. It’s rough friendship but still friendship.
Mike is not a jerk -I didn’t approve his behavior but I have to stay neutral- he is only changing, he has been thinking about him and Lucy and he realised that he doesn’t fit anymore with this friendship, and he want to make her girlfriend happy.
Still even after reading that I am still MikexLucy. I’ve probably read too much love story. Even when everything seem to say that love is now impossible it is still possibles in loves stories.
Ho and… Telling someone that you hate him is pretty easy (unless it’s someone stronger with a bad temper or if you don’t mean it) because when you truly hate someone you don’t care about what he think.
But confessing your love… it’s hard, especially to a friend, because you CARE about what they think! You are afraid of ruining everything, even if you only have their friendship it mean you are close to this person and confessing may scare her/him.
PS: My comment is probably full of grammar errors and that stuff, I’m french. So I retroactively apologize in advance for your poor eyes.
AsOfSpade December 3, 2011, 11:10 AM EST.
*Crosses fingers that Paulo will leap into room and kick Mike’s ****
Chimera December 3, 2011, 11:23 AM EST.
Second to last panel: That is not her rump. Those are her knees.
Rakshiv December 3, 2011, 11:24 AM EST.
More Sandy bashers in the comments on this page. I was hoping that the fact that she burst into tears might have tipped people off to the fact that she’s not being manipulative. But no. I mean, it’s not like she has any motive to be manipulative! She’s already Mike’s girlfriend, and she has no idea that Lucy has feelings for Mike! Also, consider this from Sandy’s point of view: she has heard nothing about Lucy except for instances where she has hurt, attempted to hurt, or yelled at Mike. She hasn’t heard about the nice times; nothing about the positive aspects of her, only the negative. So it stands to reason that she would incorrectly assume the worst about Lucy. That doesn’t mean she’s being manipulative, it means that she cares about Mike and doesn’t want him to get hurt by this girl she has been lead to believe is nothing but a jerk. Stop making wild assumptions, people.
Turbocharge December 3, 2011, 11:41 AM EST.
@Turbocharge: I’m sorry to say that manipulative people stop at nothing to achieve their goal. Crying is not a big deal, some peoples learn how to cry at will, and it’s an effective way to manipulate kind people.
It doesn’t mean I think Sandy is being manipulative. It’s a possibility but I wouldn’t guess a penny on it. There is still peoples that burst into tears because they are sad after all.
AsOfSpade December 3, 2011, 11:48 AM EST.
@AsOfSpade Sorry I wasn’t clear, but I meant that she burst into tears over the phone, when all she would have to do to “manipulate” him is fake sob, no tears required (I decided that was overthinking things, so I took that bit out of my first comment, though I now realize I probably should have left it in for clarity.) But yeah, some people just don’t seem to know the difference between fact and their own assumptions.
Turbocharge December 3, 2011, 11:52 AM EST.
@Turbocharge: I think she is to an extent manipulating his thoughts with her tears, but I also don’t think it is intentional or something she would actually want to do. I think she is being overly sensitive considering Mike is fine with the situation but, the fact she is getting so upset is quite possibly what makes him really think hard about whether Lucy is really his friend or not and whether she is really abusive or not.
I don’t blame Sandy for what happened though because it is Mike who took things the way he did and chose to act horrible to Lucy.
Moogle December 3, 2011, 12:30 PM EST.
Yes, this page and the last did a decent job of providing opposition to Lucy sympathizers. However, it was rather jarring and sudden. The reader can’t help but ask why nothing of this calibre was ever mentioned before, and why it is only now that we conveniently learn that Lucy may actually have been hurting Mike. Furthermore, if this sort of thing had happened repeatedly, why is it only now we are hearing about it? The lack of evidence through the comic provides a strong argument against the statement that Lucy is abusive. While that may be the point you are trying to convey now, I don’t feel that it matches with previous characterizations.
KiwiKoala December 3, 2011, 12:41 PM EST.
I want Mike to say “she saved my life…twice! thats why damit >:C”
Kite December 3, 2011, 12:44 PM EST.
Can we all be honest with ourselves, just for a minute here?
Sandy is a dumb ***** who should be burned on a cross - and that’s only because I’m in a good mood. I feel as though I know Sandy better than I know myself, and therefore know for an absolute fact that she is gay and Lucy is far better for Mike (like myself). If you believe anything else, you’re retarded and more suited for shipping FCs with minor characters.
MikeXLucy is the OTP, and that is fact. For starters, Sandy, as can be proved by her conniving **** in the last few pages, is a bitch. Lucy may have her moments, but she is a tortured soul who is simply venting. The venting itself isn’t even entirely hostile, either. It is just how her and Mike communicate. Mike obviously enjoys it if he can sit there and laugh about it. Third, Sandy is a model, and models are drug addicts. Lucy is not a drug addict.
So yeah, maybe if you think promoting anti-Christian rhetoric like crucifixion, homosexually, and drug-abuse are good things, MikeXSandy is for you. Otherwise, you can remain a True Child of God and be MikeXLucy.
OmoMeowth December 3, 2011, 12:50 PM EST.
Too much effort.
Just Saiyan December 3, 2011, 12:59 PM EST.
*see’s OmoMeowth’s comment*
haters gonna hate.
Wr3h December 3, 2011, 1:03 PM EST.
*see OmoMeowth comment and hope it’s a fake*
The cross is a Cristian symbol… it represent the martyr of the Christ. Crucifing and burning Sandy on a cross would make her a saint and a martyr.
But I’m not keen on religion, maybe that I don’t get it.
Jesus says to love each other and if I wasn’t an agnostic that had be one of the reasons why I’m trying to see the bright sides in everyone. I admit it is easier with comic caracters than with real peoples… but comic caracters are a good start. You should try.
AsOfSpade December 3, 2011, 1:21 PM EST.
Gosh, a lot of Sandy haters. I mean, I’m not for her, but I don’t she should be “burned on a cross” and i highly doubt she’s “gay” as someone has said.
I think Sandy has a hard time dealing with the distance issues. Long distance relationships usually never work, so maybe we should just sit back and see what happens instead of screaming “OTP IS LUCYXMIKE” “EWWWW SANDY SUCKS” and such.
Honestly, I’m a fan of LucyxPaulo, but I really want to see what happens instead. :|
Snowy December 3, 2011, 1:25 PM EST.
don’t be trippin’ bitches
chiops December 3, 2011, 1:54 PM EST.
Lol, second to last panel. Nice butt sandy ^.^
MiM December 3, 2011, 2:22 PM EST.
usually every comment i post gets a REALLY bad reception, but i do have to say, while i am totally PauloXLucy, Sandy IS on hell of a manipulator! people have friends. people hurt people. it’s not something the they ALWAYS intend to do! people with tempers need friends too!! i happen to be one of those people… it’s a good way to sort out true friends from the dregs, but it leaves one with very few people to hold onto. Mike was a great friend for Lucy until Sandy got her claws on him. Frankly, she’s not the brightest rock in the box and he must not be as very smart as he is made out to be. (it IS easier to be manipulated when you have a lower IQ… though, sometimes you can tell when some one is trying when all ya got is streets smarts.) and no, i am not calling ANYONE dumb! >_>
Draaka December 3, 2011, 2:24 PM EST.
@MiM: Those are her KNEES. If it was her butt, you’d see her tail.
Moogle December 3, 2011, 2:25 PM EST.
@mim lol, it does look like it could be a butt, huh? but it’s her knees =x
Draaka December 3, 2011, 2:25 PM EST.
@moogle not being that close, since she has a nighty on!
Draaka December 3, 2011, 2:26 PM EST.
I think Sandy is jelous that Mike is hanging around another girl she didn’t care when she was a kid, but now that she understands relationships, she just wants to ruin mikes relationship with lucy.
I don’t think Sandy understands Lucy and Mike’s relationship, which revolves around hurting eachother physically. They enjoy it, but Sandy grew up to be a happy child where everyone is like ‘love and peace’ and where everyone lives in harmony.
Sandy doesn’t even know the girl dammit.
Man, I feel deep.
Jess December 3, 2011, 2:26 PM EST.
@Moogle Exactly. Sandy isn’t trying to manipulate Mike at all, but she did unintentionally influence him enough to make him rethink his friendship with Lucy. Sandy really cares about Mike and is honestly concerned about him.
Turbocharge December 3, 2011, 2:26 PM EST.
Taeshi, I swear by all you love that if Mike and Sandy break up I shall KILL YOUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!
Kristy December 3, 2011, 2:28 PM EST.
She makes a good point. friends don’t usually physically abuse each other.
bluesub6 December 3, 2011, 2:43 PM EST.
*looks at MiM’s comment.*
*looks back up at comic*
I haven’t read any of the comments between the top 3/bottom 6 comments, but I can assume there’s a lot of hate for Sandy? I’m not exactly sure why.
She does have a valid point.
I understand a bit of “physical love” does happen between two really good friends, that ****’s a given. It’s when that begins to become a dominant aspect of that friendship that the problem begins.
Here’s the thing: if someone is on the receiving end of that “friendship between beatings”, they might not be able to see it. They’ll relish in the good aspects of the friendship (when it’s there) and not focus on the bad. They may already be accustomed to the numerous random hits during times when they are hanging out.
It may take someone outside another’s friendship to actually notice it. Then you’ve got to ask yourself “Hey…do you like being a punching bag? Do you like being a door-mat?”
I think we can see Mike’s answer to those two questions.
Now, Sandy doesn’t know the full extent of Mike and Lucy’s friendship, so she may/may not be overreacting in this. However, when you talk to someone ya like about your friends and the first thing that comes to your mouth is “Yeah, I got smacked around a few times by my friend, but—”, then their reaction (especially if it’s one like Sandy’s) is completely understandable.
Chocothunda December 3, 2011, 2:54 PM EST.
@bluesub6: That depend. I’ve grow with three older brothers, something there is really friendly brawl. It the same with my friends. Except that we call each other “idiot” “stupid” “terroriste” “walking pine cone” “talking potatoe” and even “toilet brush” (I have long hair for a guy). Same with my brothers friends.
After it depend on what you call physical abuse. For me it only apply if the person fell abused. Mike wasn’t. Well I can’t say I am in his head, so maybe he alway’s hide the feeling of being threatened.
I agree with Moogle by the way.
Edit: @Kristy. I undestand that you can be addited to the comic (I am too) and that you make a choice of shipping. But… HEY! It’s Taeshi’s webcomic! Not your. She can do whatever she want with her characters.
And also you will feel silly if you kill her and read in the storyboard that they go back together later or something like that.
Taeshi gave us a great and really addicting comic. We have to trust her in whaterver she is doing about it because she will alway’s want to keep the story interesting.
AsOfSpade December 3, 2011, 2:56 PM EST.
although i can see how sandy would react to this and i might react even moreso if i heard about my girlfriend being mistreated i have to agree with kiwikoala i myself have been through abuse (the government already knows so you dont have to get freaked out) but with how mike has reacted and dealt with the abuse it is not realistic at all for you to show flashbacks now that disagree with the entire rest of the story line i cosider it absolutly rediculous take it from someone who would know noone put through abuse and acted like he did for the storyline would also act like this i recommend taesha that you atleast give an effort to ghange direction in this capter and the upcoming chapters ahead
yoshdude December 3, 2011, 3:11 PM EST.
Although the MikexLucy shippers will HATE me for this…
I got in a fight with one of my friends, because he was bullying a new kid,
so we both ended up beat-up in the end. (I won, though. )
Two days after the fight, I comforted and befriended the new kid,
and then dumped my older friend down the drain.
Yes, It hurt to face the fact my closest friend was a monster,
But I did the right thing, like Mike is now.
(Now I know that my ex-friend will never mess with a white girl again. )
A Visitor December 3, 2011, 3:29 PM EST.
I totally agree with what Yoshdude said.
Most of the readers here never really looked at it as full on abuse, and the tone in which previous chapters related to it looked at it as a comical effect. To completely change the tone of the storyline with this flashback, is throwing a lot of readers off. We can’t read your mind and know that way back when, it was actual abuse (at least now how you’re defending these flashback segments). Honestly, we all knew Lucy had some issues, her physical aggressiveness along with how Mike would dish it back out verbally (as shown in this current piece) was something we’d all grown accustomed to.
Honestly, I understand where Sandy is coming from, but all the same, she never knew the relationship between Mike and Lucy (and apparently, we never fully understood it as well, at least from your point of view) and it seems that no matter how Mike tries to explain it, she takes it the wrong way.
You made a bold move, Taeshi. If earlier on you would have shown their relationship to be a purely negative abuse situation (meaning there was no comical undertone), you wouldn’t see such backlash from readers throwing Sandy under the bus.
Nyteowl December 3, 2011, 3:31 PM EST.
ooooooh…so thats it….Sandy was jealous all this time and turned Mike on Lucy…its that…that….cow Sandy causing this!!!
Desolatekitty December 3, 2011, 3:34 PM EST.
Yeesh, drama queen much? She has a much more sheltered life than Mike, so her reaction is kind of understandable.
Cadenn December 3, 2011, 4:03 PM EST.
I think your page comment might have possibly made me confused when I wasn’t initially.
potomac December 3, 2011, 4:22 PM EST.
SHUT UP SANDY *SLAP* NOT EVERYTHING IS AS YOU THINK *SLAP*
Hehe... December 3, 2011, 4:39 PM EST.
Diagnose: Identity Crisis.
What the heck are you man? Cat ot obedident puppy in training?
Mad December 3, 2011, 5:19 PM EST.
@A Visitor: Your ex-friend may have been a bad person but it is different with Lucy because underneath the surface layer, she is a GOOD person. She has just never been told her behaviour is unacceptable by anyone besides an older guy she had no reason to believe. He was the only one that saw it as abuse (besides Mike at the time I think) because to Lucy and her friends (excluding Mike) it was simply her normal rough-housing with her best friend.
Mike’s behaviour towards her currently is inexcusable no matter what Lucy has done to him anyway. Two wrongs don’t make a right and Lucy was never told when she went too far by him in the first place.
Sandy isn’t right because some REAL friends DO hit each other. She just doesn’t know enough about Lucy to make a completely informed judgement on what action Mike should really take.
Moogle December 3, 2011, 5:28 PM EST.
there’s a difference between ‘seriously hurting someone’ and ‘horseplaying’
Corn December 3, 2011, 5:30 PM EST.
Sandy really shouldn’t judge.
But I guess it’s kinda hard not to the way Mike explains it, eh?
MissCaitlyn December 3, 2011, 5:33 PM EST.
all you guys need to calm down,before you over react read the comic a few times and you will figured out its a flashback……my sister is 7 and she figured it out right away
I think Sandy is taking it a little bit seriously, maybe because she doesn’t know lucy like Mike does,also Sandy has been protected her whole life so i can see how she is worried for him
and remember when Mike said “you know my friend Lucy, right” Sandy said no.so sandy thinks its just this random girl
after long thinking i no longer vote for MikeXLucy.i mean Mike and Sandy are both head over paws(heals) for each other you guys need to open your eyes and see if mike dies so will sandy,and vice verse
anyway i really think Mike and Lucy should be friends,they really like each other..As friends. but they are both different people. Mike is the lovey dopey guy and is kind of corny, Wile lucy is well…the total opposite
also i think Lucy and Paulo are made for each other. If you notice they kind of act like Mike and sandy but aren’t the corny couple lol. Remember time when Lucy was sick and she was outside, do you remember all the things he did for lucy so she could go home safe. And that time when Mike made her cry he punched Mike.and aren’t they both alike in personality!
Still not believe me…..Lucy punches Mike (a lot), and so does Paulo (a lot)……how many times does Lucy punch Paulo almost none, except when he is tiring to lay with her
And remember when Lucy tried to have “IT” with Paulo,he said no…anyway in general he cares about Lucy
And something tells me there might be a cat fight between Lucy and sandy lol I can’t wait
~~I hope Taeshi reads this
enxhi December 3, 2011, 5:46 PM EST.
@AsOfSpade: haha guess ur rite! It’s just that I love this webcomic sooooo much I worry a lot about the characters. I can even identify myself with a few, like daisy or sue.
Keep up the good work Taeshi! I like your webcomic so much I actually drew all the people in my class BCB StyleWriter!!
Kristy December 3, 2011, 5:51 PM EST.
I am not one of those people that hate Sandy because she is with Mike, even though I do ship Mike x Lucy. I dislike Sandy because she over reacts, She talks like a baby ( ‘Maishul’, for example. ), and she doesn’t seem to be all that grateful of everything she has. Yes, Sandy, friends shouldn’t hit eachother, but there are things called disagreements or bickering , etc.
Sandy also acts like a Goody-two-shoes. I’m not trying to be a ’ hater ’ or whatever, this is just my honest opinion.
Can’t wait for the update on Monday.
@ enxhi If Mike died, I think Lucy would die before Sandy. You saw how she reacted when he fell off the waterfall, and the narrow cliff / bridge. Sandy might die, but everyone knows how Lucy is. She’s known him longer, too. Sandy just came along in Third grade and swept him away.
ChocolateShake December 3, 2011, 5:59 PM EST.
Long comments is looooong
Joshua Roberts December 3, 2011, 6:01 PM EST.
She’s not just crying about this one time guys, she’s also probably crying about the OTHER times Lucy has hurt, or attempted to hurt Mike too. She’s probably heard about of it already at multiple times and it’s eating her inside. Imagine it guys, you’re young like in kindegarten and you have a friend over a long distance who tells you they’re getting hit at and being yelled at during the years all the way to high school. That’s distressing. We need to look at the big picture here man. If you look at it like that it’s not overreacting just genuine care. So when she days a real friend wouldn’t hurt you ever she’s probably thinking about the multiple times stuff like this has happen between Mike and Lucy.
Enderman December 3, 2011, 6:08 PM EST.
Sandy has a cute butt, next to last panel…i’m just saying
Maddawg December 3, 2011, 6:16 PM EST.
Oh god you guys, that’s NOT Sandys butt! It just so happens to vaguely LOOK like one! You’re looking at her front asdfgh
Major Renko December 3, 2011, 6:39 PM EST.
I realize that Sandy cares…but crying about…that…? My friends and I hit each other all the time…I still consider them real friends…..sheesh…. (I’m a girl so…yeah…)
RiverSong December 3, 2011, 6:58 PM EST.
Honestly, Sandy doesn’t even know Lucy, she even admitted not remembering who she was last page. For her to say Lucy isn’t a real friend to Mike based on the fact that they sometimes hit each other is ridiculous. When I was that age I used to hit and get hit by my guy friends all the time. I kicked shins on a regular basis.
What frustrates me about this is that she doesn’t know about the time that Lucy put herself in very REAL danger to protect and try to save Mike. She doesn’t know the dynamic of their relationship, she lives so far away that it’s unfair for her to think she can talk about Mikes friends, ANY OF THEM not just Lucy. She doesn’t know them. If Mike said Lucy was his friend and if he’s telling you she’s not like that, he’d know better than Sandy would and she shouldn’t try to spin him against people he cares about. Now, she has every right to express concern over it, maybe tell him he shouldn’t let someone smack him around but it’s not her place to meddle. The fact that she asked if Mike loved Lucy to me, is a sign she might find Lucy to be a threat to her relationship, maybe she’s feeling insecure, and the tears are motivated by the thought of losing her boyfriend to a girl who gets to spend a lot of time with him. If her first assumption was ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH HER it’s obviously something that’s an issue to her, something she’s worried about.
Also, just her wording of Lucy being “that girl” is very telling. She obviously doesn’t think much of Lucy to begin with if she can’t even be bothered to address her by name. That’s basically how you address or speak about someone you don’t like.
Chrissi December 3, 2011, 7:43 PM EST.
I believe she’s crying because he already has told her about other abuses Lucy did to him, also it makes her feel terrible that she can’t do anything to stop it. And you guys are missing the fact that Lucy not only has hit him in a friendly way, she has even made his nose bleed, and remember that time when his leg was broken and Yashy kept torturing him by kicking it? Would a good friend let that? Maybe in some cases friends use to friendly punch each other but Lucy have done more than that, what she’ve done isn’t only friendly, it’s abuse not only with Mike but with other characters. So the “that’s how some friends work you over-reacting bitch” is not a valid justification for Lucy’s abusive behavior with Mike.
Effie December 3, 2011, 7:54 PM EST.
@Maddawg those are her knees.
GameBoy December 3, 2011, 8:00 PM EST.
Sandy is such a crybaby.
Arkairyn December 3, 2011, 8:38 PM EST.
Mike, tell Lucy to stop bugging you every day, it’s really putting strains between you and Sandy.
And no, I don’t care about what Lucy+Mike shippers will say.
Besides, Lucy is a bit of a bitch and needs to find an emotinoal crutch who is single. Too bad she was too slow to swipe Paulo.
Kuro Fox December 3, 2011, 9:41 PM EST.
Umm i guess you do have to look at this in Sandy’s perspective her boyfriend is being abused she can’t do anything and the stress from school and her job just builds. I’m not really taking sides anymore because both sides have good reasons
Tigerdolphin December 3, 2011, 9:44 PM EST.
Why do I feel like something in here is going to lead to suicide…
Selidor December 3, 2011, 9:47 PM EST.
BECAUSE SHE’S LUCY
Firefly December 3, 2011, 10:31 PM EST.
@Kuro Fox, she can have Paulo if she wants him, but she doesn’t just want an emotional crutch she wants Mike.
Kite December 3, 2011, 10:41 PM EST.
-second last panel- DAT ***
Reiza December 3, 2011, 10:50 PM EST.
Those are knees dear.
My only issue is that Mike is totally not mentioning that he pretty much deserved it. He told her he hated her, that he had never viewed her as a friend, and now he’s telling Sandy that Lucy is his friend. He either needs to admit he had said things that “crossed the line” in their friendship, or not say anything about it. He’s doing a good job of not giving Sandy the whole picture.
Mirasia December 3, 2011, 10:57 PM EST.
uh … Mirasia … this is a flashback and so was the last post. I completely agree he deserved it but we’re looking at Mike’s recount of conversations that happened a while ago.
Ayami December 3, 2011, 11:15 PM EST.
i seem to get this creeping feeling that…Sandy is still getting back at Lucy. Habit seems to show that misunderstandins happen alot. Maybe Lucy “wronged” her when they were little and shes gotten attatched to Mike because of such THEN she hears how Lucy shows Mike her feelings >.> however violent, and is like oh yeah Lucy…i hate her. And offers her opinion/ advice…
maymay December 3, 2011, 11:15 PM EST.
I don’t want to hate you, and its not even cuz of anything because of MikeXLucy.
BUT STOP BEING SUCH A DANG PRINCESS. Or whatever.
Ranki December 3, 2011, 11:34 PM EST.
Maybe for those who apparently failed Reading Comics 101 you should put a button that will pop a flashing message up on people’s screen.
Because APPARENTLY they don’t even read your comment RIGHT UNDER the comic.
Blur December 4, 2011, 12:11 AM EST.
A lot of hate for this character, seriously i think that the comments are silly, why?
a), yes, since Sandy its a character that doesn’t appear so often and the only things that could make us a image for her are the things that Mike tells or says about her, so of course she is perfect! She IS HIS girlfriend, sometimes love can make the people perfect to our eyes, even their flaws are perfect, it’s logical
b), Lucy kinda deserved it, when i started to follow this comic i read all of the archives to make me an idea about the plot, the characters, don’t mistake me, i like Lucy but her relationship with Mike it’s a broken one, yes there are friends who like be rough around each other, but c’mon everyone has a limit! constant abuse or “rough” friendship makes you wonder if their are your friends or what you truly are for them, since you make a lot for them,
c), if Mike can change his friends only because someone told him to not be their friend, shame on him, he is weak
N_Edix December 4, 2011, 12:21 AM EST.
For once, I’m in the minority.
As much of a MikexLucy shipper I was, Sandy’s concern is valid. This is the first time we’ve really seen any obvious signs of what getting smacked around by Lucy did.
It makes you wonder, how many times as Lucy injured Mike in a pretty nasty manner? How many times has he limped home, lost his voice? And Mike is obviously the kind of guy that doesn’t believe in hitting girls back so all he could do is flee from Lucy’s angry rages. Is there a time she even say… pushed him down the stairs? Has she ever accidentally made him break a bone?
Like I mentioned yesterday, this is seriously not kosher. Even if they were rough housing, Lucy obviously had (or had) no sense of her limits. At all. Even if this could be considered playing, usually when injuries result, then normal friends back the hell off. And you know… apologize for going to far…
I’m just saying. Maybe some of you need to get out of the “Die for Your Ship” mindset and give this some real thought.
DiDi December 4, 2011, 12:41 AM EST.
I wonder what will happen when Sandy comes over and see Lucy after all thoughs years. I know she don’t remember Lucy but I know something isn’t gonna be good when Sandy sees Lucy. Oh Lucy when she comes over just stay home and away from them.
Love December 4, 2011, 12:49 AM EST.
I want to know what kind of fancy, fairytale world Sandy lives in. She can’t have real friends if she thinks friends never hurt one another. And what’s a beauty like her doing with a long distance boyfriend- and they’re still in high school?
I’m not a shipper for anyone, but I’ll say this- Sandy is bad news. Baaaad mojo. She’s got something jacked in the head. Sure, it’s *possible* that she’s really just that sweet and loving and innocent, but it is incredibly unlikely in my mind. People think Lucy is damaged goods? Once we get to know Sandy, Luc’ll be perfectly normal in comparison.
gabrek December 4, 2011, 1:11 AM EST.
Ok I think I don’t like Sandy anymore.
jarcor December 4, 2011, 2:13 AM EST.
Thank you for clarifying the flashback status. My confusion regarding this page and the the previous has been resolved.
Mick G. December 4, 2011, 2:25 AM EST.
And then Sandy believes Mike can’t stand up for himself and drops her modeling career and ruins Mike and Lucy’s friendship even more but then they manage to get together and Sandy is heart broken and was an idiot to leave her job for a silly boy. The End.
Meg December 4, 2011, 2:39 AM EST.
All of this because of Sandy
why does this have to happen
*it makes the story longer *
….I hate Sandy
stalker December 4, 2011, 3:13 AM EST.
…I think the whole “hiding of the face” thing works better when we haven’t…y’know…already seen her face. And quite recently too. Just sayin~
Seichi December 4, 2011, 3:14 AM EST.
I don’t think Sandy hate Lucy. She doesn’t understand her friendship with Mike but she doesn’t hate her (it is possible that she say she hate her, but in fact she will hate an imaginary girl that do nothing except bullying Mike), she doesn’t even remenber her… but if you read the archives you can see that she often call Lucy to play with her and Mike (but because Mike was only thinking about Sandy they always ended playing without Lucy).
Sandy doesn’t have the same moral standards, she has a really limited vision of the real world where nobody is all bad or good. She is just trying to protect her boyfriend, it’s silly because she doesn’t know everything. Silly but not mean. She doesn’t have any selfish purpose, she is only overreacting.
AsOfSpade December 4, 2011, 3:20 AM EST.
Please don’t yell at me, but it seems that her dress color changed from pink to a blueish color. Epic clothes color change power go!
The Flying Acronim December 4, 2011, 5:18 AM EST.
@Gabe I actually think the theory of her not having a social life beyond Mike is more accurate. As we saw before, Sandy works as model and doesn’t have much of a social life aside from work, school and practicing. Her only contact with the real world is Mike, which say’s she doesn’t have any friends where she lives, not even her own mother talks to her. Living such a sheltered life shows that she doesn’t know how people or even friends act between each other sometimes, I guess she believes that friends should not hurt each other and all that jazz. So naturally she views such stuff between Mike and Lucy as not only wrong, but a signal that eventually Mike’s and Lucy’s friendship might become more than just simple companionship.
Now going a little of topic, I wanna say something bout the thing with Lucy. Yes she does have issues, one of them to be more accurate is when she can’t win in an argument or feels like a less type, she needs to result to violence to show she isn’t a weak girl. Plus it doesn’t help that like Sandy, her only social interaction was Mike (her siblings not counting), who in a way introduced her to others and allowed her to get a wide circle of friends/companions. Thing is, this is all because her only role models for that were boys and naturally her old brother, hence where she got her tomboyish nature and view on life. I also wanna add that no point has Mike ever been against Lucy’s ‘abuse’, he was angry at times and even annoyed, but he never full out lashed out on her until this very moment. I think this situation could have been averted or even went easier if Mike just explained that he is annoyed with it, and just would ask her to stop. This way he could have showed her that she doesn’t need to display her tough attitude infront of him, that he already respects her strong nature and personality.
Kanashe December 4, 2011, 5:35 AM EST.
is really going to lash out at lucy when she comes
hello December 4, 2011, 6:33 AM EST.
@Kanashe: Good constructive comment, I like it
@THe flying acronime: this is another flasback. There is not continuity. You can also see that mike got is scarf on, he no longer have his leg hurt and well… they are talking about another situation…
Not to mention Taeshi’s comment that say it is another flasback from another point of time.
AsOfSpade December 4, 2011, 7:07 AM EST.
She is just too emotional. This, coming from personal experience, is not good. She’s gonna flip out all the time, and yell and cry and blame you for everything, mike. Not good. Noooot Goood.
Mattykins December 4, 2011, 7:53 AM EST.
Little cocky arn’t u taeshi! 691 commenters not 700 readers
JustSomeCritic December 4, 2011, 8:01 AM EST.
I think mike will end up having to choose between sandy and his friends…
don’t ask me why, I only feel it will happen…
boh... December 4, 2011, 9:07 AM EST.
The suspense is killing me… what’s going to happen NEXT!!?!!?!?! >_<;
Leonmaster December 4, 2011, 10:00 AM EST.
Probably more flashback.
Just Saiyan December 4, 2011, 10:00 AM EST.
Like i said, Sandy’s cameo prevent all the interesting things from happening to me. I can understand Mike’s reason for saying that, but hate is very strong and perhaps the poor dear is letting his feelings get the best of him. I think Lucy should turn to someone who is single, or stay single i know Paulo has feelings and respect for her, and she the brown dog forgot his name , seriously or become a lesbian
Chazz December 4, 2011, 10:12 AM EST.
@Shada Two words, Isolation Tactics. Despite what she says, they’ve had no problem getting along UNTIL she came into the picture. And it always starts with the closest to you. And then it branches further and further out. Before long, our dear beloved Mike here is going to be lost to his friends, a mere shadow, because Sandy will eventually pull him away. He’s lit the candle from both ends, now we wait to see which burns him first.
Becquerel Noir December 4, 2011, 11:04 AM EST.
They always say that when you fall in love, you lose 2 of your closest friends.
1 down, 1 more to go.
Lolbot December 4, 2011, 11:24 AM EST.
@Chazz: The only thing about that comment which annoys me is the use of the phrase ‘become a lesbian’. You’re probably not trying to cause any harm but it is the completely wrong phrase to use. Women can’t just ‘become’ lesbians, it depends entirely on their actual sexual and romantic preferences as to what they are.
If Lucy started to develop feelings for a female she would be biromantic due to being attracted to both genders romantically, but we have no indication as to what her actual sexual preferences are so there is no reason to believe she would specifically be homosexual if she developed a crush on a female considering she could just as easily be heterosexual, bisexual, pansexual, demi-sexual, asexual or so on.
Not trying to be hostile, just trying to give an explanation.
Moogle December 4, 2011, 11:28 AM EST.
I don’t think Asexual applies ANYWHERE except for Amaya because Taeshi said so
Major Renko December 4, 2011, 11:56 AM EST.
@ Taeshi you get over 2000 Comments a week. Not bad for an onlinecomic i’d say. (Even though many of them are stupid like hell.)
I’d be proud of myself if I were you
Zarylo December 4, 2011, 12:31 PM EST.
Becquerel Noir, I must agree. I have a slight fear that Sandy’s highly emotional reactions will make Mike push everyone away.
I don’t think he’s chewing Lucy out like this just because he suddenly felt “oh, wait, you hit me. I dun like it :I ”
I believe that it’s mostly “Telling Sandy about you made her cry! I HATE YOU >:[ “
Skygaze December 4, 2011, 1:19 PM EST.
Sandy reminds me of a friend of mine, back when we were both in middle school. We were both shut-ins of a different sort. I was a shut-in by way of I spent all my time with my family, and my family was… ‘Full Contact’. We shoved each other around, wrestled over TV remotes, gave friendly punches in the arm, and so on and so forth. In her case she was an only child with a weak immune system, so her mother made a point of keeping her inside and treating her gently. When she got out to the real world she was convinced that friendships were all sunshine and rainbows and friends should never fight, emotionally or physically. That friendships were perfect, golden, and a real friend would never disagree with you or express a different opinion, or punch you in the shoulder, or tackle you, or whatever.
Well, five years later and we’re still friends, and I still tackle her whenever I see her. Sandy needs to get over her issues of thinking the same way as my old friend and realize that our relationships are what we make of them. You don’t just drop a person when they’re rough around the edges, you COMMUNICATE with them and let them know when their behavior is too exuberant/not okay. That friend will usually try to do better by you, while maintaining who they are.
Mike should figure out the whole extreme ‘**** YOU GET OUT OF MY LIFE’ approach is way too out there and hurts too many people, starting a conflict that will never be resolved in the hearts of those that were closest.
Loor December 4, 2011, 1:43 PM EST.
Seems to me that Mike is still trying to explain Lucy’s side, even though in the last panel he looks slightly less convinced of himself (or maybe that’s just me). Wonder what’ll happen that leads to him confronting Lucy.
Ps: this is obviously the teacher’s fault. He should’ve paired Mike with Susan.
Ditto December 4, 2011, 1:53 PM EST.
Gratz on the flashback humour, Taeshi.
domo December 4, 2011, 2:00 PM EST.
Oh my goodness.
A Rampaging Hobo December 4, 2011, 2:32 PM EST.
Right, everyone has their own preferences and orientations, nothing ‘makes’ these things happen, gay is not a ‘choice’…
…except, sometimes it is. Not everybody is the same. I’m bisexual, by choice- I had my fill of women, and chose to date guys and girls for a while. Now I’m happy in a heterosexual relationship, married, and because of that, will no longer be persuing men.
Everybody’s different. I’d argue plenty of girls ‘become lesbians’ because they’re tired of men. Enjoying same sex relations is something that can be learned. Plenty of people are born gay; plenty of people become that way by choice. And there’s nothing wrong with making that choice! I believe that alot of the “not a choice” attitude stems from people not wanting to be judged by christians and other damnationists- we should not be ashamed if we did in fact choose that lifestyle.
gabrek December 4, 2011, 2:37 PM EST.
Whys sandy such a baby, seriously she’s acting like a little 3 year old
I'm a turtle December 4, 2011, 2:58 PM EST.
@Ditto: He was going to. But then Mike began to yell because he was soooo sure that he was going to be paired with Lucy… If a was a teacher a would at least try to lower the hate between people by forcing them to work together…
Hey there is still hope! Their work isn’t finished yet! They will continue to work together, maybe it will solve some issues.
AsOfSpade December 4, 2011, 3:02 PM EST.
I don’t think that WW2 paper is EVER going to be finished the way things are going. Unless they can ignore what just happened, I’d say the paper is going to be finished by one person, not both. And frankly, I have absolutely no idea who’s that gonna be.
It’s too bad. The paper could actually serve as a way of repairing the burnt bridge.
Edit: Even considering her face, I’d say Susan and Cletus are going to produce a better paper than these two…
Ditto December 4, 2011, 3:27 PM EST.
Over react much Sandy?
ShadowAce December 4, 2011, 3:37 PM EST.
im a total lucy+Mike fan and i totally hate sandy she doesnt know the half of it
Lucy December 4, 2011, 4:07 PM EST.
SANDY! YOU ARE A PANSY!!!!! You gotta learn to be tough. Lucy is simply getting Mike ready.
Grubey December 4, 2011, 4:29 PM EST.
sandy is way oversensitive and over protective
jkattz December 4, 2011, 4:36 PM EST.
I can understand Sandy’s concern, but… Kinda innocent. And naive.
Tailsdoll December 4, 2011, 4:37 PM EST.
I’ve read many coments about Sandy in one of the last pannels, THAT IS NOT HER BUTT!!! She is obviously sitting on her legs. Please, think before you make a coment.
no one December 4, 2011, 4:41 PM EST.
You’d think it would be obvious to anyone that a normal person can’t rotate their uper body 180 degrees, wouldn’t you?
Tailsdoll December 4, 2011, 4:47 PM EST.
Also with her hair hanging in her face it would make a little since to why someone would mistake her for being turned around.
no one December 4, 2011, 4:59 PM EST.
Ya know, after reading a few of these comments over the passed few days, I’m surprised and glad that peeps are noting one crucial detail.
How in the HELL are Mike and Lucy gonna get this project finished now?!
Chocothunda December 4, 2011, 5:15 PM EST.
@ Ditto and Chocothunda:
you are forgetting sue’s play…
boh... December 4, 2011, 5:39 PM EST.
Oh dear lord, I completely forgot about that! How the heck are they going to do something like that now? Unless…
Can anyone else see Mike and Lucy demanding “I want out” at the same time, then turning the play into a competition and basically daring each other to give up until they end up performing wonderfully?
Ditto December 4, 2011, 5:48 PM EST.
She kinda reminds me of the girl from The Ring in panel 8
TheDinosaursRevenge December 4, 2011, 6:21 PM EST.
I’ll admit that Sandy has a few points and a lot of good reasoning to be upset but that doesn’t mean she can sabotage a friendship that’s been in the making since Mike and Lucy were kids. EVERYONE has a friend like Lucy, admit it. Some of our friends just can’t express themselves properly and they don’t know how to express certain emotions.
I am in no way a LucyxMike fan nor am I a SandyxMike fan.
So everyone just shut up about how “Sandy’s such a bitch for doing that!” She just can’t understand their friendship. Can any of us who has a friendship like this say that even we understand it? No, we stay with that person because we know the real them and that they care about us.
Also everyone saying “Finally Sandy saved Mike from that Bitch!” Would you honestly think that if you were in this situation?
Sandy said what she thought was right and Lucy was just trying to save what little friendship she and Mike had left. It’s just a large conflict which can probably never be resolved by conventional means.
Sorry for the rant but after reading the same generic comment over and over again I get sick of it.
Just a Wanderer December 4, 2011, 7:11 PM EST.
Sooooo…is Sandy saying that if he loved her ill be fine?also i agree with Just a Wanderer i had friends like that and at some point i was also like that…i think its a difficult situation.
? December 4, 2011, 7:35 PM EST.
D= Sandy is breaking up Mike and Lucy’s hate-love relationship!
i also agree with Just A Wanderer, i have a friend like that now (although i do the same to him lmao) and we are still best mates, no matter what happens, he calls me fat, I call him farg, we both laugh and continue playing Pokemon or something
Lakie December 4, 2011, 7:44 PM EST.
I like how Sandy assumes she knows everything. Good to know she cares, but god she’s pretentious, talking about how friends HAVE to act towards one another.
Rockenos December 4, 2011, 8:42 PM EST.
She isn’t just crying because he is getting hit she appears to be crying because she cant be there and is scared of loosing him to Lucy so she feels powerless I’m not a sandy fan but I understand why she would react that way ):
Mego December 4, 2011, 8:54 PM EST.
what’s going on with the no face policy? it freaks me out when the author leaves out something…where’s Sandy’s face?
Houle Nemo December 4, 2011, 8:57 PM EST.
How is Sandy not being ridiculously sensitive?
Waterseas December 4, 2011, 8:59 PM EST.
I knew Sandy said something to Mike concerning Lucy’s violent behavior. He really, truly likes Sandy and is trying to stay with her. Long range.
That’s hard, especially with Lucy here close to him. Their relationship was never really just a friendship, there has always been an invisible vein of love, thickening at times, then shriveling at others. Mike has finally decided to slit the vein and stop the angst. He has Sandy and doesn’t need this connection with Lucy. But he doesn’t hate her, he’s just unsure he can keep up the drama act with her without deeply upsetting his girlfriend and jeopardizing the golden relationship. It is painful for him though, you could tell by his tears.
Adrian Fife December 4, 2011, 9:00 PM EST.
That’s sweet that Sandy cares. :’) BUT MIKE CAN TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF. I don’t know, she just seems…waaayy too childish. I mean, really? Have you read her dialogue for the last two pages? I still like Mike and Lucy more, although I am wondering what will be in store for us tomorrowww~~
WhatisThisIDontEven December 4, 2011, 9:32 PM EST.
She kinda looks like the grudge in this one
Pookie December 4, 2011, 9:33 PM EST.
Daisy had pretty much the same thoughts about Lucy at first, y’know.
But then she got to see how Lucy actually cares about Mike.
If Sandy had gotten to know Lucy more instead of jumping into conclusions like Daisy did at first, she would learn that Lucy is actually a very sweet person deep down (just look at how she’s with her pets).
I don’t blame her for thinking that Lucy is no-good for Mike, not even as a friend. It’s a normal reaction of course because of Lucy’s first impression.
That’s why I wish she would get to see the other side of Lucy and understand her more, like the rest of the gang has learned to with time.
Mike wouldn’t put up with Lucy all this time, and actually ENJOY many of those times, if he didn’t know about it himself.
Lucy does care about those she hold dear. She just have a bad way of showing it. And few know about it, the rest just take it that she’s an violent woman with no sympathy for others.
Yumikarp December 4, 2011, 9:57 PM EST.
Sandy: You are seriously overrating Mrs. Drama Queen. What are you, five? Friends get into fights and hit and scream sometimes. Everyone does every once in a wile…
Mike: You’re a total sleaze for not being completely honest with your girlfriend. You are trying to defend yourself, if you’re going to tell her something like that tell her the whole story. I wouldn’t be surprised if she hates Lucky for all the wrong reasons just because you didn’t tell her the whole truth. No wonder Sandy thinks you are so wonderful. You’re really a bit of a *****.
Lucky: Good job trying to be friends again and all, but Mike is gonna need a little space. Stop being so darn clingy. That’s why your friends can’t handle you. You need to get over it and start standing on your own two feet. You just have a lot of crap wrong with you, some of it is your fault some of it is not. Figure it out.
All of you guys just need to all have a talk and GROW UP! Mike, at least try to be nice and friends with Lucy again. Lucy stop clinging. Sandy, find out the truth and stop being so melodramatic. Just TALK. CRIPES! That would help things SO much.
cagedbirdsongs December 4, 2011, 10:05 PM EST.
Talking doesn’t solve everything.
The Solution December 4, 2011, 10:21 PM EST.
Phhht, I love how worked up people get over cat characters made of pixels. Some even give them a pep talk. Pretty amusing….Looking forward to a new page!
Lolly December 4, 2011, 10:27 PM EST.
I have a question,
hipster December 4, 2011, 10:37 PM EST.
If things where like that, then it wouldn’t be very interesting.
no one December 4, 2011, 10:54 PM EST.
You do realize the characters personalities are whatever Taeshi, the owner of this world, decides right? lol Don’t try to change the characters and just keep reading.
Michael S. December 4, 2011, 10:57 PM EST.
Why has no one commented on the Lucky thing yet.
Seriously, her name is Lucy.
Minty Lime Green December 4, 2011, 11:11 PM EST.
SANDYS A JEALOUS BITCH
MIKEE December 4, 2011, 11:36 PM EST.
because a girl being extremely concerned (nothing wrong about that, imo) about her boyfriend makes her gay, a devil, and many other things that make absolutely no connection to being kind? these comments are making no sense whatsoever.
MERP December 4, 2011, 11:39 PM EST.
*shivers* I am disliking Sandy…SHE DOESN’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED! Michael was being the mean one there! At least, in my opinion…
Zariyo December 4, 2011, 11:54 PM EST.
meh, nevermind. When I think about it, she’s not that…y’know… She’s just worried…
Zariyo December 4, 2011, 11:56 PM EST.
well as karma finishes with lucy karma will bite mike in the butt. . sandy could just have work stress i’m mean she models right?
bobby December 4, 2011, 11:58 PM EST.
@Mirasia A man can dream.
Reiza December 5, 2011, 2:13 AM EST.
Do not plagarise my name :p
Zarylo December 5, 2011, 10:39 AM EST.
Though I’m not a Sandy fan, I can see where she’s coming from.
True in this situation, Lucy is actually nothing really to worry about but Sandy doesn’t really know all the deets. You can’t get mad at her for not having complete understanding when she’s not even there.
Nomnomnom December 6, 2011, 8:29 PM EST.
Man! I swear, Sandy’s trying to have Mike break up with Lucy!
Lucy’s not happy to see this comment.
She’s going to Mike’s place right now.
Don\'t hate ppl December 12, 2011, 9:25 AM EST.
It is in fact back to because Sandy is indeed too sensitive, among other flaws.
First off the cuff example, right from this page!
“A real friend would never hurt you.” This is both true and false.
As she’s using it she implies that Lucy should never be causing any form of harm to him. Can you honestly say that anyone you know, friends, family, strangers, etc haven’t caused even a smidgen of physical or mental pain? That’s little more than just part of being human. No one is entirely the same and there’s many ways to express oneself.
On top of that, Lucy does in fact care about whether or not she hurts people, Mike definitely so. She physically FIGHTS people, outmatched and at risk of severe injury to herself, to defend him from being hurt even.
Both sides go overboard, but it’s pretty distinctly the Lucy haters that are out of touch here.
Priscilla January 12, 2012, 9:23 PM EST.
Well, I honestly don’t think there are ANY ‘bad guys’ in this situation.
Sandy honestly seems to care about Mike, as does Lucy. Mike’s been dealing with Lucy and hasn’t really told her anything about this beforehand because he didn’t really know how to put it, and has been somewhat of a pushover for quite some time.
Lucy’s problem… yes, she’s making changes, she’s trying to accept that Mike is happy with someone else, and is trying to change, but these changes appear to be just… too late.
It’s a bit heartbreaking to see her go through all of this to try to save their relationship, and to see him too far gone to want to see any of it.
I have nothing against Sandy, and Mike seems like he’s just blowing off pent-up frustration, and Lucy… I’m afraid it’s a too-little-too-late thing with her.
I’ve been a fan of how Lucy’s character progression has been going, she’s made some big changes, and… I’d like to see her pull through this.
I just hope she’s strong enough.
Sebastion January 28, 2012, 6:09 PM EST.
Funny. I treat my friends realitively like crap, but they know I care about them. (I also hinted about that to them)
ScrabMaster March 31, 2012, 12:58 AM EST.
Sandy still have to die!
Fire Pelle April 29, 2012, 7:23 PM EST.
i dont like sandy anymore she dosent even know what happend
reddeer May 18, 2012, 11:41 AM EST.
sandy got some prob eh..
hanisu93 May 24, 2012, 3:25 AM EST.
Sandy doesn’t know how their friendship works!!!! She knows nothing about Lucy!!!
Sophia123 June 1, 2012, 9:57 PM EST.
I’m sorry, but I’ve read the whole comic and I’m affraid to say this is the only page I don’t like. I’m pretty sure there’s gonna be many people hating on me for saying this, but so far it all seemed to be mike’s fault, like him being overreacting to being in love with Sandy, and Lucy not knowing how to react due to her “lack of experience”, if we can call it thet way. You did,’t have to make Sandy look like an evil unknowing bitch. I’m sorry, but I just can’t enjoy a twist like that on the ideas I had on what was happening on this story. Just my personal opinion, tho
ZeroTehShadowZ June 12, 2012, 7:37 PM EST.
Honestly, as much as I like the idea of Mike and Lucy, I agree shes bad for him, and she is abusive, and sandy is a lot nicer, like an older Jasmine. Paulo had Tess at first, who was bad for him, then he discovered Jasmine, who is kind to him and a good match. And as much as it pains me to admit, its the same deal with the Mike-Lucy relationship. Its a poor fit, and sandy is good for mike, no matter how much hate and flac she gets from people who wanted the relationship to work.
Frodomann1 June 14, 2012, 11:04 PM EST.
It’s pretty clear Mike and Lucy will not work out. Whenever those two get together, they’re beating the **** out of each other, either physically or emotionally.
The fact that one or both ends still try to meet each other makes it even more ludicrous.
They’ve built up so many walls against each other that it’s hard to find the foundation where it all began at.
Better for both of them to just walk away and if they can at least be friends, thank God for small favors to the readers.
KickYourselfMore June 27, 2012, 5:07 PM EST.
Okay, I feel kinda bad saying this, but Sandy is being a baby. “What kind of person does that wahhhh”
Random Cat July 5, 2012, 11:12 AM EST.
Last three panels, if this isn’t a flashback Mike is the bipolar one.
Someone September 2, 2012, 3:50 PM EST.
I used to like that Sandy character, but now… SHE SEEMS EVIL, SHE’S GOT IT ALL WRONG MAN! A friend of mine and I slug each other all the time, not even in a joking way sometimes. When we dislike one of each other’s jokes or something *BAM* right in the chest. Sometimes you need to realise that that’s just the way people communicarte sometimes.
You may be saying, “Oh WAIT! You guys hit each other all the time!”
Well guess what, that friend isn’t a guy. She’s just a regular chick.
Rylan October 19, 2012, 6:14 PM EST.
Whats that micheal! Shes youre FRIEND! When you cleary shouted at her I HATE YOU and you’ll never be my friend? Suuure, thats not hypacritical at all!
AprilKitty October 24, 2012, 2:36 PM EST.
take back what I posted before a few chapters ago……I hate Sandy….
Song November 18, 2012, 9:47 PM EST.
Sandy! You would know about Lucy if you weren’t up there in whereeveryoulive makin’ business deals! Hmph! Show some respect for the girl YOU stole that man of yours from! Lucy deserves better than “Maishul” anyway! You’re 15 and you still can’t pronounce your “boyfriend’s” name!
Sarathewise February 1, 2013, 11:52 PM EST.
Sandy do we need that talk again cuz i think we do
izzy March 20, 2013, 6:26 PM EST.
I understand where you’re coming from (a real friend wouldn’t hurt you) but you don’t need to cry!
NoName XD April 18, 2013, 8:22 PM EST.
Sandy… Are you CEREAL??
NoName XD April 18, 2013, 8:25 PM EST.
UuuuggggGGGHHHHH SANDYYYY WHYYYYY. I do the same thing as Lucy does to pretty much every friend I have. We were born in the same month. Scorpio is a misunderstood sign. They try to hide their feelings. So I guess Lucy is doing that. But she was trying to fix that ;A;
minichoco July 12, 2013, 11:57 AM EST.
SANDY!! That … little … bijatch. -.- OMG how I hate her. Because of her Mike hates Lucy and that Sandy can’t even remember Mike’s name ors … Because of her fake tears … SHE SHOULD DISSAPPEAR! She should DIE! And Mike should Marry Lucy. -.- This bijaych :
C0oOkie August 19, 2013, 4:07 AM EST.
She is obviously REALLY sheltered. I can relate, but it makes me hate her even more - despite kinda feeling the same way, you NEVER tell your significant other who their friends should be, EVER.
Vix October 25, 2013, 8:46 AM EST.
Shame on you, Sandy! You should understand that this abusive relationship is acceptable!
Yes January 6, 2014, 6:32 PM EST.
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TemplarArchon_Hunter July 28, 2014, 11:20 PM EST.
And here’s the part where Sandy screws everything up because she’s a clueless idiot and Mike is too obsessed with her to argue
Chop body fuzzy fall fun April 27, 2015, 5:53 PM EST.
Fu sandy…you look pathetic and you ruin everything my otp…*cries* ruined
Lucy's the best April 27, 2015, 8:48 PM EST.
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