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WELL YOU PUT SOME SENSE INTO HER
NIKITA YOU HAVE TO STEP UP YOUR GAME GOD
also last-panel derp lucy, Taeshi, don’t be afraid to be artistic with the panels. It’s obvious you crammed Lucy into that little box.
The Ebola Virus January 11, 2013, 12:00 AM EST.
ಠ_ಠ Looks like I have competition. (and slow internet)
She waits for him to get to the bottom and then jumps anyways. “**** you *******!” *Splat* That would make my day.
Still though, something’s definitely going to happen. You don’t have scenes like that without some kind of earthshaking development or epiphany. Otherwise, this entire thing would be completely pointless. Plus, twelve pages doesn’t exactly pass quickly, something’s gotta happen, right? I hate waiting for stuff.
Nikita January 11, 2013, 12:00 AM EST.
bjk January 11, 2013, 12:00 AM EST.
That last panel…
Ditto January 11, 2013, 12:00 AM EST.
Whoa! Is Augustus using reverse psychology on Lucy? Maybe Augustus realized it is pointless to argue with Lucy when she is angry? Well it makes sense since the last thing Lucy needs right now is a guy yelling at her again or somebody that will try to tell her what to do. That’s right Augustus just wait downstairs until Lucy is ready to talk.
supertails19 January 11, 2013, 12:00 AM EST.
i thought it was impossible to make a cliffhanger from the last panel but i guess i was wrong
Pirari January 11, 2013, 12:00 AM EST.
Oh smexy Augustus….
Arkhaela January 11, 2013, 12:01 AM EST.
Well, you wanted to act like an adult, go for it Lucy, take responsibility for your actions. Let’s see how many people you can alienate. It’s a shame too, she is my favorite character in the series.
Thaedael January 11, 2013, 12:01 AM EST.
lucyxpaulo27 January 11, 2013, 12:01 AM EST.
This is what I waited for????
Aiya January 11, 2013, 12:01 AM EST.
Wow, that was such a downer.
Nimbus26 January 11, 2013, 12:03 AM EST.
Well that was anticlimatic.
Day~Day January 11, 2013, 12:03 AM EST.
…Wow….just…wow to both of them
bankai January 11, 2013, 12:05 AM EST.
Aaaand he locks the roof access door…. lol
SpiritWolf15x January 11, 2013, 12:10 AM EST.
Pay attention to the eyes you can tell when they change moods like when Lucy’s eyes are cloudy, and on panel 2 Augustus’s eyes squint after what Lucy says.
Uncle Green January 11, 2013, 12:11 AM EST.
The way Lucy was drawn in the last panel make me giggle.
Pew January 11, 2013, 12:12 AM EST.
This makes me wonder if she will actually jump. I mean, I doubt the fall would kill her, I’m sure shed sustain some serious injuries. But since auggie is ther she wouldn’t die.
Rioo January 11, 2013, 12:12 AM EST.
Wow. I think Auggie is furious.
The four stages of Augustus’ facial expressions:
Bargaining (last panel, previous page): “What’s best for you? I was worried! That’s worth the checking on you, right?”
Acceptance: “That kinda makes sense. I don’t much like others dictating to me, either.”
Denial: “Oh, she did NOT just misinterpret my trying to save her life into being about CONTROL!!?”
Anger: “F*** you, b****. Do what you want, I’ll still be here when you decide to be sane.”
Coyote January 11, 2013, 12:12 AM EST.
Feels a little anticlimactic. But least it isn’t a uber cliffhanger like last week.
Blaze33405 January 11, 2013, 12:13 AM EST.
That ended more peacefuly than I thought itwould, you think he tell her off with her thinking her life suck so mutch becouse her family cares about her and his family doesn’t even give a damn about him,but insted he’d did the mature thing and gaind his composer and just let her have her moment
lov/hate/hurt January 11, 2013, 12:13 AM EST.
Auggie cares <3 I like him because he isn’t all sugary and corny to show his concern and seems like he really understands Lucy, even if he thinks she’s some sort of a whiny bitch, I love the way he copes and gives her space, yet will be waiting until ‘she’s done’.
KarmaKitty January 11, 2013, 12:15 AM EST.
Augustus doesn’t get bitched at and Lucy get’s time to think, while also getting a subtle hint that he somehow actually cares at least a little bit for her.
Well it isn’t ideal, but could’ve easily have gotten worse given both of them’s typical way of reacting.
werner January 11, 2013, 12:19 AM EST.
wait a sec i just picked up on the fact he said hed be waiting for her yaay
and that did end better than i thought it would!
Pirari January 11, 2013, 12:20 AM EST.
Final Fantasy cat, you are doing it all wrong!
Or maybe you are doing it right, hell, I cant even tell with Lucy anymore.
Hopefully she doesnt take the plunge to spite him.
Frodomann1 January 11, 2013, 12:20 AM EST.
I bet next week’s going to go back to the party! >w>
MonsieurWTF January 11, 2013, 12:24 AM EST.
Looks like he’s finally done with her ****. Good job, she doesn’t need constant ***-pats anytime she does something.
I expected more, with the page before ending with him having such a shocked face, but whatever. I like this more than a screaming fit.
Jinx. January 11, 2013, 12:26 AM EST.
looks like the pity party is over, thanks Augustus
sen January 11, 2013, 12:35 AM EST.
You may think that Augustus is kind of distanced from everything, but he has a kind of 6th sense. He knows resistance is futile and just lets people be.
Still can’t decide whether Augustus is trying to be nice, just being humane, or trying to coo Lucy into some trap. Can’t get the fact outta my head that Augustus is involved with some bad ppl, and that Lucy is a target of some sort.
Hope to see some sort of development with that soon.
On the artistic note, great choice by Taeshi to make dramatic moments like this with a neutral grey-white back ground. Fits the mood perfectly!
foreveryoung5 January 11, 2013, 12:37 AM EST.
Lucy is an *******, not mikey :3
Super troll January 11, 2013, 12:47 AM EST.
He’s going to wait for her?
Woahhhhh, it just feeds the hope.
jerkface January 11, 2013, 12:49 AM EST.
Augustus is the only one that could understand how she feels right now because he knows what she was ready to do and why she was ready to do it… and he decides it is better to leave her… alone… on a roof top. This plan seems legit(it actually does). Before you think i’m crazy it does make sense she just told him how she felt about how people are trying to make decisions for her. So what better way to prove he is on her side then by saying “okay if that is how you feel go ahead make whatever decision you want I will be right downstairs if you need any help.” Augustus is being smart about this, he chose not to argue whatever point he was going to make with Lucy and is now giving Lucy what she wants a choice(that was something her family didn’t give her when they were talking earlier).
supertails19 January 11, 2013, 12:50 AM EST.
Sing on the rooftop.
Sally! January 11, 2013, 1:04 AM EST.
Don’t feed the Tsundere! Augustus knows what’s needs to be done.
Just-A-Lurker January 11, 2013, 1:06 AM EST.
@foreveryoung5: You are right the background fits the mood perfectly. This chapter was obviously well thought out. Taeshi sure knows how to plan ahead and keep us coming for more .
@KarmaKitty: Augustus cares in his own way and I adore him for it . He is not too dominant and he is not too submissive he is in between. Now if only he didn’t hang out with Lucy’s number one enemy. Oh that is going to be hard to explain .
@Nikita: This Chapter is called Ten Seconds to Midnight, I guarantee a Drama Nuke will go off by the time this chapter is done. How it happens though is a complete mystery to me. Especially since Augustus just blew away half of my predictions with that “Oh you don’t want advice that will help? Fine i’m out. talk to me when you want to get better.” move of his :|.
The chapter is not over yet so you can wait some more, in the meantime try think about what might happen next. Make it a game, Call it Unpredictable, create a hard mode for it and if that is not enough make Unpredictable CRAZY MODE .
Let your imagination run wild if you are so bored and have nothing better to do. If you have to worry about bad thoughts make sure you have the BCB Archives ready and go to your favorite chapter to cheer you up. I have this down to a science… the fun kind.
supertails19 January 11, 2013, 1:07 AM EST.
This entire sequence is just dripping with possibilities. I can’t imagine what direction this will take, as pretty much all predictions I’ve read or entertained myself seem to be so far off of the mark.
Looking forward to whatever reveal is coming.
Random Phrases January 11, 2013, 1:17 AM EST.
The look on Aug’s face on the second panel is so deflated, so anti-dramatic compared to his facial expressions in the last few pages, that it’s become freakin’ hilarious to me.
At first he’s all going “omg! omg! Lucy’s gonna jump!” and all of a sudden his face turns into a slab of stone like something just kicked all the emotions out of him. Actually, it makes it seem like he was pretending to be worried, when behind the mask he was all “Meh”.
Lucy’s facial expression on the last panel is a little weird, but guessing from the body language (position of her arms/hands and the slight bending of one leg), is she starting to have mixed feelings about Aug?
Good stuff, but I’m still waiting for a breakthrough to happen though. I mean, are they gonna kiss, fight, or what? They just keep stalemating.
Blank On Purpose January 11, 2013, 1:17 AM EST.
Wow, I’m being sincere when I say he’s being pretty awesome right now. Although there was a drop in my heart with his decision, he’s willing to wait for her. They may be contempt with each other, but this is the perfect reaction that could happen. Just, wow. I can’t.
JamieMoonbeams January 11, 2013, 1:31 AM EST.
I’m calling that just at the moment when he steps outside of that building she hits the sidewalk just a few feet away from him…
thedragon133 January 11, 2013, 1:32 AM EST.
Lucy… Why you actin so cray cray!?
Anthony_frost January 11, 2013, 1:53 AM EST.
Second panel says “…are you ****ing kidding me?”. Suppose he doesn’t have much love for her childish angst right now.
Stoker January 11, 2013, 2:08 AM EST.
I was a little caught off guard by his ‘Whatever’ response at first, but I thought about it for a while, and I guess it makes sense. Augustus probably deals with enough ******** in his life that a little snappy attitude isn’t enough to penetrate the shell of indifference (as opposed to the near suicide moments ago - THAT sure did the trick). Another possibility is that his habitual reaction to getting told off is to turn around and walk away to avoid getting lashed at, because continuing an argument only leads to more anger and possibly abuse. This could be connected to the relationship he has with his family - alcoholic parents and a thug of an older brother (I’m guessing that’s rapecat, no one really knows; he could just be a bully) - which I’m sure is nowhere close to healthy for a developing, learning teenager.
Also, because ‘Whatever’ is just the natural teen default response to just about everything. Have homework to do? Whatever. It’s past two in the morning? Whatever. Paper’s late? Whatever. New BCB out tonight? Whate- OMFG WHUT MUST SEE IT NOW! *spazz*
PocketGodPygmy January 11, 2013, 2:22 AM EST.
And that’s why I find Lucy/Augustus-interactions so interesting! He doesn’t put up with her BS but doesn’t explode like Mike would nowadays.
Really hoping we’re getting to see more of them (even if I’m still a Paulo/Lucy-shipper).
Janara January 11, 2013, 2:46 AM EST.
Yeah, I understand Aug’s attitude in the second panel. I used to be all “whatever” myself, especially when I felt myself getting to an emotional boiling point. However, I learned that the “whatever” attitude means other people just look at you and say “whatever”. You want good feelings? Then be ready to give good feelings; not “whatever”. As a side, people who attack others with good intentions are free game to kick around; such things are a two-way street.
But still, look at Aug’s face on panel one for a good ten to fifteen seconds, then roll your eyes over to panel two. Freakin’ hilarious how the sudden transition from a ton of emotions goes suddenly to “whatever”.
Blank On Purpose January 11, 2013, 3:05 AM EST.
I love his reaction, his face expression made me giggle. To be honest he took the right direction. He’s now acting like he doesn’t care, now she might think
“darn even though people meddle with my life it sucks even more when people don’t care”.
Katie January 11, 2013, 3:12 AM EST.
I think Lucy just seriously ****** off Augustus. He essentially got whatever he talked with Lucy about in the past thrown back into his face.
At the same time, he’s handling this situation well, and other peeps definitely spotted it too. With him waiting downstairs, Lucy’s last words in the last page kind of go out the window, and now she actually has a choice. The question is, given her state, what will it be?
TUNE IN MONDAY ON BCB!
Chocothunda January 11, 2013, 3:35 AM EST.
Not to be weird or rude or anything, but it would be interresting If she jumped anyway, landing right infront of Augustus.. leaving him speechless..
sunny-lucy January 11, 2013, 3:46 AM EST.
“Yell yell yell yell!”
“Well, fine then.” *walks away*
“Wait wait wait wait hold up hold up hold UP! Did… he just… walk away?”
I can just SEE her next reaction happening… but I’m not the writer, so we’ll see. xD
Anon January 11, 2013, 3:50 AM EST.
God Augustus is just so
the way he’s not tacking her schnitzel but in such a cool way is just so aaaaa
and the fact that he’s going to wait for her I just
he makes me comment on every single page he’s in sob sob
Milkfruit January 11, 2013, 3:50 AM EST.
Well he’s going to wait downstairs for her. That’s something. I would’ve expected him to just leave her to her whatever-ness. I can’t really foresee what he’s going to say to her when they meet at the bottom, besides “You don’t have it hard” or “You’re being melo-****ing-dramatic”
Maomao January 11, 2013, 4:11 AM EST.
Well this may start to get interesting.
Anon-Anon January 11, 2013, 5:24 AM EST.
It was horrible, I was gone for a week and without internet and the last page I had seen was when Lucy seemed just about to jump, I can’t handle cliffhangers that long.
On a more related note, Augustus continues to be awesome, trying to help people while pretending not to care.
Alfador January 11, 2013, 6:41 AM EST.
I was hoping Augustus would just kiss her
Snowflower January 11, 2013, 7:24 AM EST.
Unamused Augustus is unamused.
Mayamayagirl January 11, 2013, 7:35 AM EST.
This comic is so much like my high school… it’s freaky..
Hadron January 11, 2013, 7:58 AM EST.
I reallly really really wish he would have just gave her a long look and walk away
BluePringlez January 11, 2013, 8:04 AM EST.
Augustus you were no help at all!
Shadow January 11, 2013, 8:25 AM EST.
Your blue snowstorm is throwing off my gray snowstorm anyway~
Huh? January 11, 2013, 8:37 AM EST.
Good job on calling her bluff, Augustus.
Angie January 11, 2013, 8:38 AM EST.
Augustus does show some wisdom in his actions here. If Lucy wants to do what she thinks is best for her, then he’ll just have let her do so. He can’t stop her and he’ll be there to help if she needs it.
Whatever you’re doing Lucy, always make sure your fingers are warm. Cold fingers are a little irritating. (I just felt like saying that.)
Keyblade Dragon January 11, 2013, 9:29 AM EST.
What Lucy said in the second last panel of the previous page bothered Augustus is some extend. It may be because he heard the same words in the past from some moment which scarred him or simply saw himself in that instant. Or not.
They are both hopeless tsunderes, which just share a lot in common.
Knux-the-Killer January 11, 2013, 9:35 AM EST.
This may actually start to become a worse love story then twilight… and it feels so wrong to say that…
Liro Raeriyo January 11, 2013, 9:40 AM EST.
Wait what the hell?
Did Gussie just go into Lucy’s house?
AoJ-DeciA January 11, 2013, 9:52 AM EST.
x ughhh, lucy starting to get on my nerves. why can’t you see that mike anit the only one concern for your well-being? she’s gonna lose out on alot of decent ppl that come her way.
kiki January 11, 2013, 10:06 AM EST.
JUMP! JUMP! JUMP!
Tired of Lucy January 11, 2013, 10:30 AM EST.
There’s nothing worse than other people making your decisions for you. Augustus knows this too. So he knows what’s best: to let someone make their own decision. What actually matters here is that he said he’d wait for her. That’s what Lucy needs to hear. It’s things like that which let people make good decisions in their lives.
Macca January 11, 2013, 10:39 AM EST.
How will he even know when she’s “done”? And what does he mean exactly when he says done?
paulosawesome January 11, 2013, 11:24 AM EST.
come on people are we forgetting agustus is in cahoots with the gang that jacked up the crew when they were lost in that comptin like city. something big is coming i can feel it
chase January 11, 2013, 11:41 AM EST.
Okay, that was pointless and awkward.
At least he’s going to wait for her… so there is still hope!
Lime Cake January 11, 2013, 11:49 AM EST.
Can’t wait to see what happens!
For some reason I kind of want Lucy to go start a punk rock band and vent through loud music. With McCain on drums.
Ket January 11, 2013, 12:43 PM EST.
DON’T. YOU. DARE. JUMP. Hopefully, she’s having second thoughts about it, just because he talked to her and because of the few things he said to her.
I'll Eat Yourself January 11, 2013, 3:04 PM EST.
I’m starting to hate the water color and wish you would use the type of pages you used to do. But then again it’s just my opinion.
youwishyouknewmyname January 11, 2013, 3:36 PM EST.
I sometimes think Augustus is the most mature character in the comic.
It’s simply a matter of choosing your battles. Lucy said she wasn’t going to jump, so the chances of her still choosing to jump are really low. If he pushed the issue, the chance of her jumping would go down just a tiny bit more, but he would lose status by being exactly as smothering as everyone else. Whereas if he gives her some space (as he’s doing now), he avoids rewarding her attention-seeking behavior, and demonstrates that he does care about things like personal choices.
Grif January 11, 2013, 4:02 PM EST.
Sadly the first thing that came to mind was “Dat ***”.
I think she wanted to just be left alone with out the eyes of her family on her 24/7. Umm Maybe she got ****** also because maybe Augustus doesn’t think she should be left alone. People need their space.
Angry, sad, deep in thought. WHAT THE **** is going on in the mind of your’s Lucy!
I think Augustus is trying like reverse sociology. But I could be wrong.
Also I am alone on this? I have this strong need to hug her… I probably just being weird.
Someone January 11, 2013, 4:16 PM EST.
Whoaa…. August really understanding… =////=
Yu January 11, 2013, 4:43 PM EST.
Ashamed Lucy is ashamed. I think she just really hurt his feelings.
I_Love_Lucy January 11, 2013, 5:49 PM EST.
HA! Take that indifference!
Giodude January 11, 2013, 7:10 PM EST.
“I’ll wait downstairs until you’re done.”
“I don’t believe your word that you won’t jump, so I’m staying here even though you probably came up here for solitude.”
“I can’t just walk away from this; I want the last word.”
A contest of one-upmanship.
Just what Lucy needs…
Insanity_Prevails January 11, 2013, 8:17 PM EST.
And in one page, Augustus becomes my favorite character.
Idon'tusuallycomment January 11, 2013, 10:25 PM EST.
Augustus is one fine understander, he sees that Lucy needs space and accepts that. But some close consolation wouldn’t be a problem at all either, hee hee.
Though I especially love Augustus’s last words. ” I’ll wait downstairs until you’re down. ” He’s pretty much saying in a way ‘Hurry up and get over it, when you’re done I’ll be here’
Miskix January 11, 2013, 10:57 PM EST.
@KeybladeDragon: I think cold fingers are the least of her worries right now. Also Lucy actually likes the cold and snow so this is probably her favorite weather right now .
@Chase: I did not forget about Alejandro(the mugger) and I know something big is coming, but I got a feeling that Augustus is going to regret working for Alejandro and then try to protect his precious Daisy and her friends from Alejandro’s revenge. Augustus won’t be able to protect everybody on his own though he will need help .
@Someone: Hopefully this will be enough for your daily dose of hugs > http://askbcb.tumblr.com/post/14371966573 What is more adorable than a kitten giving a sad girl a hug? The answer is when that kitten is Molly .
@Insanity_Prevails: Nah, I think Lucy just needs somebody that won’t treat her like a little kid and let her make grown up decisions while being close enough to help her if she needs it. Lucy wants to make her own decisions and Augustus is going to let her. I wonder how Lucy will respond to Augustus’ decision? Well Lucy you said you weren’t going to jump so prove it by walking down the stairs after you had your moment to think about whatever you want to think about.
supertails19 January 11, 2013, 11:11 PM EST.
It’s interesting to see how this story is developing. I’m loving it, been a big fan of BCB since he had his OLD blue scarf, and it feels like I’m growing up with these characters, and I can totally relate to these kind of situations.
I really think Augustus is a good guy, just really misunderstood… I don’t see him managing to pull a fast one of Lucy, since she’s really not the type to take **** from anyone other than maybe Mike. And even then it’s a big maybe, but still… can’t wait for this chapter to finish!
Alex January 12, 2013, 1:30 AM EST.
If I’m supposed to hate Augustus, stop making me like him so much.
I mean JEEZ REALLY.
I like characters, like ol’ Zachary, who can navigate the kind of wailing, flailing drama the cast generates, and Augustus just dodges it so smoothly. He almost got swept up in it. Almost.
Idunno. I guess I like all characters. Bad guys or good. I like characters who are good at what they do.
Even if what they do isn’t very nice.
MykelTDT January 12, 2013, 2:33 AM EST.
Im like, mortally frozen just looking at all that snow. How are they not frozen?
Marucat! January 12, 2013, 4:17 AM EST.
@Marucat!: To answer your question: Augustus is wearing a sweater underneath his poncho. Lucy could use her tail to warm her up like a self-made coat. I understand your concern though it is the middle of winter and Lucy has been standing outside in a snowstorm for who knows how long. I wouldn’t be too surprised if she got sick . Hopefully she will decide it is better to do her thinking where it is warmer, back inside the building. Or Lucy could continue to enjoy the view, the silence, and her thoughts .
supertails19 January 12, 2013, 11:16 AM EST.
Honestly i have grown to love this sereis and its characters. Growing with them, watching them grow. I also love how dramatic its getting from starting out so campy begging. Having said that ya i was mad at mike, but i truly get why he did that and think he took it just a tad to far. However i’m realy realy losing respect for Lucy. I truly just want to yell at her because reading this comic i feel like i have become her and the rest of the casts friend. Like this chick => I feel like i’m there but don’t get to speak to them and help. Just the observer. So if i was there i’d scold mike, but accept that how he feels, and lucy i would staight up yell at her! If saw her on that roof i’d grab her against her with drag her home and tell her mom. So my point is i’ve grown with these characters and i’m realy realy losing my respect for lucy. Heck i go to theripy and am in between jobs and my rents getting raised and i have abusive parrents, and i meet women and can’t fall in love. She was so strong and now she’s a mental case. For the sake of the drama i think this is awsome wrighting. **** is realy going to hit the fan when everyone finds lucy in a mental hospital. So Cootos to teashi on the artwork, and Cootos to both teashi and suitcase on the story and writting. I’m Still hooked to this sereies. Thank u
JustSomeCritic January 12, 2013, 3:42 PM EST.
August ain’t taking nobody’s **** today.
Zach January 12, 2013, 6:46 PM EST.
That moment when I fully realize that everything on the page was drawn and painted by hand on a piece of paper in real life.
O_O THIS ARTIST IS AMAZING
Hehehe426 January 13, 2013, 1:01 AM EST.
Oh god, I get that look when someone is being either really stupid, or bullshitting me really hard.
Mashivan January 13, 2013, 1:03 AM EST.
the perfect couple
tsdr January 13, 2013, 1:18 AM EST.
Call me cold hearted- but I really dislike Lucy as a character…
StoneHeart January 13, 2013, 8:37 AM EST.
Lucy needs a therapist…I feel sorry for her…she was call a PARASITE, and Mike was very mean even when she tried to show she was happy for him when sandy came, I just want to mike been discovered as a heartless guy by everyone…Im eager for that!!
lousika January 13, 2013, 11:25 AM EST.
I want to hug her too. These characters here are super relatable! So no, you are not alone.
Kryph January 13, 2013, 1:54 PM EST.
Ugh I just love Augustus’ character so much!! ;-;
Knuc January 13, 2013, 7:58 PM EST.
Yeah, winter does suit her.
Keyblade Dragon January 14, 2013, 9:05 AM EST.
Lucy needs to grow up and stop being such a melodramatic little ****. Seriously, practically suicidal for what reason? Sure she has issues but who doesn’t, and hers aren’t actually that bad. If there are people out there who think like this, they need to get their priorities checked. Stupidest character developments have been going on now. Absolutely ridiculous.
Xynthesz January 14, 2013, 11:05 AM EST.
I undestand that Augustus cares just because he knows what she’s going through and that she’s dealing with it differently then how he has been dealing with it, but PLEASE dont turn this into a Lucy is goign to start depending on Augustus like she did with Mike and then their both going to date or something because they ‘understand each other’ I dont know if I blame Mike or slightly Sandy for Lucy’s behavior. But yeah…
Maxine_Your_Queen January 27, 2013, 3:09 AM EST.
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