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Guest appearance cranky mike
Yumi November 8, 2013, 1:00 PM EST.
Heyyyy November 8, 2013, 1:00 PM EST.
Hawz November 8, 2013, 1:00 PM EST.
Uh he talks! Kind of jerkish of Mike to claim that as if hes the only living thing that Lucy would want.
She did pretty well with Paulo for example until that affair incident and Mike even made her feel bad for trying to move on
EvilKitty3 November 8, 2013, 1:00 PM EST.
unoppo November 8, 2013, 1:00 PM EST.
Jonas97face November 8, 2013, 1:00 PM EST.
all the truth come pouring out.
@yumi damn you
Maith1 November 8, 2013, 1:00 PM EST.
Spooky November 8, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
Fight to the death! (still better than Mike’s confession)
JayLime November 8, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
@Maith1 Haha I was waiting for this so I could get the first comment
Yumi November 8, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
So it begins…..
CuriousGent November 8, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
I hope Paulo won’t become mad and start a fight with Mike
Jonas97face November 8, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
ihaveaname? November 8, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
Wait an entire weekend?? Nooo!!!
toops November 8, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
Them’s fightin words, Mike.
228756323 November 8, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.
Mariasona November 8, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.
Mike is like : “In your face,Paulo”
DrDominiguez November 8, 2013, 1:03 PM EST.
“It’s not like it was your fault”.
Triniking November 8, 2013, 1:03 PM EST.
That’s it Mike! Let out your heart! Let the words of your wrongs and love flow!
Jayden November 8, 2013, 1:03 PM EST.
Hello Mike??? Do you not explicitly remember a while back when it was revealed that Lucy would choose Paulo over you???? And don’t be such a jerk. You’re the one who called Lucy a parasite and turned your back on her.
CyanScorpion November 8, 2013, 1:03 PM EST.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, RACHEL!!!
scaryglasses November 8, 2013, 1:04 PM EST.
Third Panel. Low Blow o.<
Well done, Daisy (?)
Adept-eX November 8, 2013, 1:04 PM EST.
Kris November 8, 2013, 1:05 PM EST.
tactless mike is tactless.
boh... November 8, 2013, 1:05 PM EST.
To the truth!
Mr-Hero-Bio November 8, 2013, 1:05 PM EST.
looks like confession time!
Phillip November 8, 2013, 1:05 PM EST.
And then Mike forgets about Sandy, but Paulo and Lucy still live happily ever after just like in my upcoming animated bcb abridged series.
NeonWabbit November 8, 2013, 1:06 PM EST.
sad for Mike…
Sad for everyone.
Mr-Hero-Bio November 8, 2013, 1:06 PM EST.
To be fair, she strung both of you along.
Anon-o-mis November 8, 2013, 1:06 PM EST.
I see Mike a Paulo exchanging blows before the end of the night. If the do it properly it will end with both on the floor then picking each other up to drink together and share memories.
Also I was bumming around on Pintrest and came across this, it seems quite appropriate for Mike and Lucy’s relationship, not to a T but still quite close.
They didn’t have a “normal relationship
They teased each other
They play hit each other
They called each other names
But Underneath that
Anyone could see how much they cared
Because if you listened closely
To every joking “shut up”
There was an “I love you” inside it
Chrisd765 November 8, 2013, 1:07 PM EST.
Perfect. Just perfect. Cranky Mike is about to make everyone mad starting with Paulo. So much for this going the nice direction. Mike’s face in panel 3, more proof that he blames himself for what happened. That hospital visit did more than trigger some memories and make him cry on the sidewalk. Now he fully realizes the part he played in all of this. All the misunderstandings that he had in his head have been cleared up and now he can admit to the things that he has done. Conflicted feeling abound as Mike manages to finally talk about Lucy… and he chooses this way to start it off. This Korat is going to be having one sad and lonely night.
supertails19 November 8, 2013, 1:08 PM EST.
No Mike, fight the one sip of alcohol you have had. It was never your fault. Lucy dug her own grave, figuratively. Don’t take the fall, man. That one girl who sent you a love letter in the first few chapters wouldn’t want it this way.
Shiloh November 8, 2013, 1:09 PM EST.
Daisy, you maybe wanna take the knife out of Mike’s heart?
Z November 8, 2013, 1:13 PM EST.
Yea mike you were kinda her best friend and she loved you. Yet you pushed her away. Daisy scored a critical hit on mike. It was totally mikes fault.
Blue fox November 8, 2013, 1:13 PM EST.
Holy Crap! He speaks!
ZavierMcWilliams November 8, 2013, 1:13 PM EST.
You can go die now Mike… Paulo is probably rigth, and Daisy is SOO wrong… because it WAS your fault!!!!
Vanilla November 8, 2013, 1:14 PM EST.
you shut your ***** mouth paulo. it’s because you bag so many that you are a MAN. And we all know that the half-deaf bitch wanted mike.
That Guy November 8, 2013, 1:14 PM EST.
An agonizing weekend of drama and cliffhangers.
Keyblade Dragon November 8, 2013, 1:16 PM EST.
Mike, time to be a big boy and accept the consequences of your actions. You can do it. I still believe in you, I always have.
PS good luck!
SIGxMUNDx808 November 8, 2013, 1:16 PM EST.
oh ****, Mike no need to get snapy
void November 8, 2013, 1:17 PM EST.
Do you want some ice on that burn, Paulo?
Guest :I November 8, 2013, 1:19 PM EST.
Paulo just unintentionally referenced “Another Path”. He has no idea how friggin right he really is.
kettle November 8, 2013, 1:19 PM EST.
I think Mike is getting sober. Drunk Mike would have explicitly said what happened back at “December” with Lucy. And his old cranky attitude is coming back with the mention of Lucy.. I expect someone to point out in the next page how he rejected her. They might not know the mean things he said to her, but the gang did hear of his plain rejection to her feelings. The pieces of the puzzle are starting to fit together, get it together Mike before you’re the one left without friends :S
Yelikarts November 8, 2013, 1:21 PM EST.
This is sad because neither Mike or Lucy were entirely to blame. They each played their part among others, but no one person should be taking all the blame. It won’t be long before the worst game gets played… the blame game. I can already see it happening. Mike’s not helping his case either with the way he is acting now, which is unfortunate since the others can easily use his cranky attitude against him.
supertails19 November 8, 2013, 1:23 PM EST.
Good god, I’ve never been more excited for a page to come out. HURRY UP MONDAY !!
Jade November 8, 2013, 1:23 PM EST.
Not finest day for Paulo. Though I guess he’ll hear full story soon enough and will set out to save Lucy from the perils of living away from most of the main cast. Even though they’re angst ridden terrible people she totally will feel better with them around. Especially Paulo. She’s his truly love after all. Even though he already had like two substitute girlfriends, and his about to leave second one to be with Lucy… While he left Jasmine to be with Lucy… and… ended up with sluty dog character… Yesss… this really is complicated*.
You’re right. It was totally Lucy’s fault for whatever she did. I dunno what, since she wasn’t aware that her abuse was abuse (so were most of the readers until stuff was retconned with like few pages of the comic), Mike never pointed out it was bad for him (and he never though so, until Sandy convinced him that’s bad) so I guess she really SHOULDN’T try to fix things between her and Mike even when it came down to be only his friend, while she clearly had feeling for him. Hell she should drink a bucket of bleach for ruining Mikes life (dunno how she ruined his life, but she clearly did, which is why she was mentally crushed by poor little Mikie).
Or maybe she’ll twist it? Nah, I still say she would give him a b.j. in front of Abbey if Mike would as her to.
Really? Whole “daddy killed mommy”, “substitute girlfriends”, “rape attempts” and you thought it will end nicely? It’s like thinking that “molotov cocktail at the animal shelter” situation can have a happy ending. It’s not Bittersweet Candy Bowl anymore, it’s a Cup of Black, Cold Coffe. And it is truly GLORIOUS! Drama is far more entertaining than people puking rainbows all over each other.
Not more tactless than when he called ceratain someone a parasite, and then ran to his mommy to tell all about Sandy’s visit. This one made me rather sick.
*Complicated - according to Cool-Kids-Talk Dictionary published by YOLO Publishing Company - “complicated” is a word you use when you want to say “manwhore” without saying “manwhore”.
Commander_Zero November 8, 2013, 1:23 PM EST.
For drunk people, they seem to be having a really serious conversation.
$adiq November 8, 2013, 1:23 PM EST.
Well, gotta congratulate with Rachel. Paulo is clearly attracted by Lucy and keeps talking about her and still, she understand or at least is not angry with Paulo. She has some nerve! Or maybe she’s not really interested in Paulo?
Also, one darned weekend awaiting for the drama? Right now as Mike as started talking? Damn you @Taeshi
SHM November 8, 2013, 1:26 PM EST.
Looks like Lucy is causing even more problems and she’s not even there.
Tired of Lucy November 8, 2013, 1:28 PM EST.
Mike you even new what you were doing yet you still did it. You should be ashamed of your self! Some buddy should punch mike in the dick.
Blue fox November 8, 2013, 1:28 PM EST.
Omg Daisy “It’s not like it was your fault”
Silveryogurt November 8, 2013, 1:32 PM EST.
OOooohh god here it comes i got 200$ on Paulo. sorry mike
Deaose November 8, 2013, 1:34 PM EST.
*Starts eating popcorn* This gon’ be good.
Dudeler November 8, 2013, 1:37 PM EST.
Anyone else get the feeling there is about to be drunk argueing over Lucy?
Fangs November 8, 2013, 1:42 PM EST.
I try to like Mike, I really do but I just can’t, he’s too unlikable for me, every page I dislike him more and more but everyone else is fine. Mike just rubs me the wrong way.
Punkkitten7x2 November 8, 2013, 1:44 PM EST.
Nico November 8, 2013, 1:45 PM EST.
Oh damn Mikey those are fighting words
Holy Shitcicles November 8, 2013, 1:45 PM EST.
Daisy, queen of low blows.
SpiritWolf15x November 8, 2013, 1:48 PM EST.
“It’s not like it was your fault”
OH GOD MIKE’S FACE HAHAHA.
Cinnabun November 8, 2013, 1:50 PM EST.
WHOA WHAT DID MIKE SAY?
Discord55 November 8, 2013, 1:50 PM EST.
Annnnnnd then it dropped.
DD November 8, 2013, 1:52 PM EST.
@Commander_Zero: I’m not expecting it to end on a happy and carefree note, but who wants to see Mike beaten to a pulp and sent to the hospital for something he clearly feels bad about? Sure, it might be nice if he was able to explain why he did it and somehow alleviate everyone’s imminent anger towards him, but how do you think that will play out while he’s in cranky mode? He practically set himself up to be torn down painfully with that last remark. You might like the idea of them ganging up on Mike and hurting him, but I’d rather not risk the group being torn apart because of this.
“you thought it will end nicely?” -Commander_Zero
Basically yes and no.
Yes, I’m hoping for things to go well and for Mike to not be physically hurt to the point of needing a hospital visit… maybe some emotional damage by leaving him friendless and lonely as he cries himself to sleep tonight so that he’d know how it felt or at least have a clue, but that’s all… no physical damage because he never physically hurt her. No, I’m expecting the downfall of this group of friends because of this and Mike suffering more than he already has with quite a few bruises… maybe worse.
Why can’t they all just try and be understanding of this? Just talk it out and deal with it first… haven’t they been through enough? What good will adding to the pain and sadness do? Do you think they will all feel better once mike is all bruised up? Will that somehow bring Lucy back? Will that somehow take away all their pain and suffering away? No, all fighting will do is just add to the pain and suffering they have all been through so I’d rather have them talk this out. I realize I am expecting a lot out of a bunch of drunken teenagers, but that’s just the way I am. Sue me for wanting the best out of people… even you, but I’m not expecting anything positive anytime soon.
supertails19 November 8, 2013, 1:55 PM EST.
GUILT TRIPPY! FAR OUT MAN!
Now that my spazing is over, lets assess the situation.
1.) Mike just emotionally kneed Paulo in the shins.
2.) Despite of everything, Mike still comes off arrogant.
3.) ”Dun be sad Mikie… it’s not like it was your fault,” the highlight of the page to Mikie haters everywhere.
4.) “Happy Hour” is becoming more and more relevant.
5.) Everyone’s still there, GREAT PARTY.
Hawz November 8, 2013, 1:56 PM EST.
TRUTH BEAM READY!
Trubeque November 8, 2013, 1:57 PM EST.
Couldn’t help but notice that on Daisy’s line, the word “fault” almost seems bolded. Maybe a little subconscious emphasis there, @Taeshi?
anon November 8, 2013, 1:58 PM EST.
Oh yeah Mike, ‘cause you’re perfect for her? The only guy for her? She’ll never ever love anybody else? Oh, but you won’t be with her. No way. So you believe that she’ll just sit there pining after you forever? That’s the way it should be? Because she’ll never get over you but you’ll also never be with her. Right Mike. Way to be a jerk about it. Did you keep her around to stroke your ego? To think about how much better you were than her? Maybe understand that you’re not a perfect Adonis and that she will move on.
I’m just sayin’ Mike, you’re looking an awful lot like Romeo and Paulo is looking an awful lot like Paris. Except maybe this time Lucy gets to not die at the end of Romeo and Juliet, and gets to choose again.
Macca November 8, 2013, 2:06 PM EST.
@Macca: Cuz he knows he caused **** to get real. You’re a psychological terrorist. CALM IT DOWN
Hawz November 8, 2013, 2:12 PM EST.
I shall say this again : DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Random dude November 8, 2013, 2:16 PM EST.
I giggled at the last two panels. I don’t know why, but it was hilarious.
here it comes. he’s gonna say it. SAY IT MIKE. I won’t judge you man, we all make mistakes.
SXR123 November 8, 2013, 2:31 PM EST.
Mike, U R gonna die.
TheXtreme(YM) November 8, 2013, 2:32 PM EST.
Ohh~ I hope Mike brought a first-aid kit cause the second he spills those beans, Paulo’s gonna beat the s*** outta him! One word: Karma.
RandomFandom November 8, 2013, 2:35 PM EST.
Daisy: the best comforting in the world.
And I think Mike a bit thinks too much of himself. Yeah, he ruined and almost ended Lucy’s life, but it doesn’t mean Paulo couldn’t have saved her… right? Right?
Nikary November 8, 2013, 2:36 PM EST.
We all saw it coming, lets just hope we’re wrong.
Anon-Anon November 8, 2013, 2:36 PM EST.
@SpiritWolf15x, I know right?!
Seiri November 8, 2013, 2:37 PM EST.
Well somebody’s an inconsiderate narcissist.
Zott November 8, 2013, 2:39 PM EST.
oooohhh snap!!!!! **grabs popcorn** this is gonna be good.
Flying Potato November 8, 2013, 2:39 PM EST.
Lucy may not had been aware it was abuse but it still doesn’t excuse what she did. Just Mike’s inaction doesn’t excuse the way he tore her down at a vulnerable time. -forgot who said she didn’t know it was abuse. might have misread post. ignore if taken in wrong context.-
Canny November 8, 2013, 2:42 PM EST.
Nuuuoooooo what a cliffhanger . #Dance
Arc November 8, 2013, 2:42 PM EST.
Really Mike? Jerk mode, activate!
kami November 8, 2013, 2:45 PM EST.
Xanopt1con November 8, 2013, 2:46 PM EST.
Ok everyone seems to he reading into Mike’s response as being in an arrogant tone, but I think it seems far more likely he is trying to reassure Paulo that he is in no way to blame.
If Mike was suggesting Lucy liking him more than Paulo is suppose to be a burn, you’d think he would be looking at Paulo as he says it, rather than just speaking as if to himself. Plus I think Paulo’s expression is more of confusion than annoyance.
Anialator November 8, 2013, 2:53 PM EST.
Yea, she wanted you, but later she needed Paulo. Aaaaah, this comic. Reread it all last night; I was just so tense.
Wat November 8, 2013, 2:54 PM EST.
You know who needs to show up at this party? Yeah you all know…….MCCAIN!
$adiq November 8, 2013, 2:57 PM EST.
Sanchan November 8, 2013, 3:08 PM EST.
@$adiq I predict another study buddy scenario, replacing Paulo and Rachel with McCain and Sue.
Anialator November 8, 2013, 3:14 PM EST.
I’m thinking if they do start fighting Mike may have a slight advantage as he will be at perfect crotch punching height.
Chrisd765 November 8, 2013, 3:17 PM EST.
I know everyone is focused on the Lucy/Mike/Paulo drama train, but I feel bad for Jasmine. Does Paulo really think he was only “messing around” with Jasmine? At first it was all just a ploy to try to get a girl, but it seemed like the two of them connected at some point, even if he didn’t truly love Jasmine was she really just a game for him? Poor thing, she really liked him.
Ellie November 8, 2013, 3:18 PM EST.
Impending doom in 70 hours and counting
Luna November 8, 2013, 3:19 PM EST.
IT JUST GOT REAL!
Jaime November 8, 2013, 3:20 PM EST.
awww. Poor mike. Even if it was his fault lucy always had feelings for mike. she does for Paulo but not like she has for mike. Shoot they known each other since preschool. But im still PauloxLucy Fan.
Crazycrud November 8, 2013, 3:22 PM EST.
OMFG!! This gonna be a war zone. FKing AWSOME, finnaly its for real! YESH
Othoniel November 8, 2013, 3:23 PM EST.
Contrary to what most are suggesting, I think Mike will just finish his sentence/statement rather than immediately a fight breaking out. Like maybe in their drunken state the other characters will be too slow to react immediately and it won’t process, and THEN maybe fighting will happen?
Silveryogurt November 8, 2013, 3:25 PM EST.
I like how there are still tiny bubbles around them even though this is gettin seriouse
Speed of sound November 8, 2013, 3:28 PM EST.
Hahaha I’d have to say, Mike does sound like an self-absorbed douche in this page.
But we all knew that anyway.
Let’s get crack-a-lackin’ on that “pretty boy” perfect image. Hammer’s at the ready.
Lickit&stickit November 8, 2013, 3:29 PM EST.
ohh the rage was back one chapter ago and now continues, Mike pls go f*ck yourself, it’s not like it was your fault? … well it is big part you d*ck
thanks taeshi for create this great comic, you can really feel dark feelings against a character sometimes (like he was a person) jajaja
Knight-A November 8, 2013, 3:29 PM EST.
Bowtie November 8, 2013, 3:30 PM EST.
Panels 1-3 ; BLOW, GUYS-
Onmytablet November 8, 2013, 3:46 PM EST.
Wine tells the truth?
HongKat November 8, 2013, 3:49 PM EST.
In a sense, Mike is telling the truth.
Lucy did want him and had loved Mike even after he pushed her away, maybe not as obviously later on because at that point she would have been satisfied if he would talk to her and act friendly like he used to instead of being completely ripped away. She wanted to be in his life even if they were just friends. She did start to have feelings for Paulo, but it was honestly a little to early and by the time Paulo worked up the courage to try and ask her out she was broken on the inside since December because of what Mike had said. Which leads to the present.
stealthy toast November 8, 2013, 4:30 PM EST.
Pretty sure that ‘She wanted me’ is less arrogance and more ‘It was my responsibility’… ‘Course that’s the best case scenario and when does THAT ever happen?
TheSiegnier November 8, 2013, 4:36 PM EST.
HA HA, AND YOU GUYS THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE THE CONFESSION PAGE
Whimsicott November 8, 2013, 4:39 PM EST.
oh man, Mike’s talking!
on that subject, it’s really quite a big step for him to not only admit it out loud, but in front of a whole group of people (who aren’t likely going to be embracing or understanding initially of what went down, once they hear the whole story, ESPECIALLY when drunk) I suppose if you do have to take something of a warning about intoxication in the chapter, it’s that it really does release your normal inhibitions. Things get said that you might not have wanted to come out, your common sense can get compromised.
Mike probably would have never admitted it so soon without good ol’ “liquid courage”, and I think he knew that too, judging by how little he talked earlier on in the discussion. I think he was trying to keep it from slipping out.
Stofu November 8, 2013, 4:39 PM EST.
NO TAESHI WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT A WHOLE WEEKEND
*ahem* …well, on more relevant issues. Mike’s finally coming out with it; that’s a relief. Now he’ll get the consequences for his actions. By consequences, keep in mind that I mean having Paulo nearly kill him with words and everybody be mad at him for a bit, but he’s their friend, so it’s not like they’re gonna completely break it off.
Carindel Girl November 8, 2013, 4:41 PM EST.
Uhhh… how is that a confession? Isn’t this old news to everyone?
o3o November 8, 2013, 4:44 PM EST.
YES!! FINALLY!! MIKE IS GOING TO CONFESS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED!! Wait a minute… *prepares legendary sword, maneuver gear, ice magic, clockwork cannons, giant harpoons, and armored long coat* YOU HAD BETTER NOT MESS THIS UP MIKE. YOU ALREADY STARTED YOUR CONFESSION. DON’T STOP NOW.
I'll Eat Yourself November 8, 2013, 4:56 PM EST.
Just waiting for mike to blurt out that I was all his fault and for legendary fight to break out.
Kidhate November 8, 2013, 4:57 PM EST.
@Shiloh: Lucy did NOT dig her own grave by herself in any way, shape or form.
Many of her issues stem from her friendship with Mike: abandonment issues, phobia of water, inclination towards violence by not discouraging it, her depression.
The first three are not completely Mike’s fault as he was just a kid and the third was also spurred on by new positive attention that she didn’t understand and the fact that not a single person actively tried to discourage her violence, allowing it to become part of her natural behaviour. However, they all still stem from her interactions with Mike originally (the third did start as just pushing remember).
Essentially, he turned her into the person she was, whether he meant to or not. And not a single damn person tried to correct her behaviour. Even if they disliked it, they never truly tried to correct it (with the exception of Zachary, a guy who was just a stranger to her that she had no reason to truly believe), and her phobia of water did put her life in danger as a result when she almost fell into that river, while on that vacation organised by Tess, because she fainted at the sight of it.
Her depression is very much Mike’s fault though. He let a biased person (Sandy was biased due to only having his side), tell him what his own friendship was like and let her opinion hold a lot of weight over his decisions. He let her biased view blind him to Lucy’s good points and instead of even CONSIDERING talking about it with her, instead of ATTEMPTING to improve their relationship, HE decided to let his anger over how upset Sandy had been control him and VICIOUSLY attacked EVERY. SINGLE. MENTAL. WEAK POINT. THAT LUCY HAD.
Did he have to do that? Hell no. He chose to attack her weak points though and he caused her depression as a result so he very well should feel really goddamn guilty about it because depression is pretty hellish for whoever suffers it and he inflicted it on Lucy.
Moogle November 8, 2013, 5:02 PM EST.
Is it just me or is this conversation sounding a bit conceded
Rozonth November 8, 2013, 5:03 PM EST.
Oh please don’t go down that road Mike…not with a SIP of alcohol in your system and who-knows-how-many-bottles worth in Paulo’s.
Tealjoy November 8, 2013, 5:04 PM EST.
Ohh, Mike’s gonna either try and chew out Paulo, or he’s FINALLY gonna fez up on what he’s done against Lucy.
Either way, this upcoming moment is what should’ve happened right after “december”
Rifter November 8, 2013, 5:09 PM EST.
Sad thing is that yes, it sounds conceited, but it’s also kind of true. Yeah, it’s kind of a faux pas to say “She wanted me,” but I hope the others let Mike confess instead of jumping down his throat over a tangentially related poor choice of words.
Seriously. Mike was a jerk. He liked Lucy, felt guilty about it, then tried to cover up his attraction to Lucy with an unbelievable (and unfair) coating of synthetic, self-generated hatred. He should have just calmly and honestly talked things through with Lucy. Lucy was spurred on by the mixed signals Mike was sending, and when it all came crashing down and Mike had to force himself to *really* hate Lucy to avoid falling in love with her, Lucy was left confused and depressed.
I still think there’s hope for Mike, but he’s got to admit his feelings both to himself and others around him. And, eventually, to Lucy. Hopefully those around him are mature enough to shut up and listen so the healing can begin.
Anonymous November 8, 2013, 5:13 PM EST.
OH PAULO, BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNN…
Lyrix November 8, 2013, 5:14 PM EST.
Ooooooooooh I smelleth a booze fight!
Mcturtle November 8, 2013, 5:16 PM EST.
“I’m not expecting it to end on a happy and carefree note, but who wants to see Mike beaten to a pulp and sent to the hospital for something he clearly feels bad about?”
“Sure, it might be nice if he was able to explain why he did it and somehow alleviate everyone’s imminent anger towards him, but how do you think that will play out while he’s in cranky mode? ”
Well he already isn’t playing his cards vert well, as you pointed it out. If Mike indeed is going to do good ol’fashioned confession he probably will end up in hospital or at least badly beaten. Since it was really bad way to start it. Though we already had chance to witness that Mike is capable of defending himself, even while drunk. Or maybe he wasn’t… I can’t quite remember that arc, and even if I remember it it might’ve been retconed. Anyway, party will be over, that’s for sure.
“You might like the idea of them ganging up on Mike and hurting him, but I’d rather not risk the group being torn apart because of this.”
Well to be honest nothing makes the group stronger than common enemy. That’s well known truth. Though I’m rather sure Daisy will end up defending Mike… which will Make Abbey mad. Paulo will be mad at Mike. Sue probably will try to be neutral… though I think this might resault in multiple conflicts… which will be both interesting and entertaining. So yeah, I like the idea of them ganging up on Mike very much. We need things to be more dynamic here.
“Why can’t they all just try and be understanding of this? Just talk it out and deal with it first… ”
Because they’re all drunk. And teenage. Bad mix if you ask me.
“Do you think they will all feel better once mike is all bruised up? Will that somehow bring Lucy back? Will that somehow take away all their pain and suffering away?”
No. As you said: though they might feel better right afterwards in time it will create more pain. Which is why in real life violence (both physical and verbal) is bad. It can cause other people to vomit into your private trash bin! But in this particular situation, when we’re talking about fiction and cat-people I’m all for it. I’m rather sure whole thing in the end will have happy ending, but before that I want to see as much pain and suffering as possible. Since it’s entertaining.
“Sue me for wanting the best out of people… even you, but I’m not expecting anything positive anytime soon.”
As I said, when it comes to the comic itself I’m here mostly for blood, sweat and tears. Though I must say I am fair: I hate all the characters equally.
Anyway: if Mike indeed is going to end up beaten up - it will bring some readers a sense of bitter satisfaction. You say Mike is feeling bad about it. That’s good. But let’s be honest: people aren’t going to forgive him so easily. Ok this was a case of double fault in December chapter. But while Lucy was already repenting at the time of “December”, Mike still was at fault. His behaviour was also irritating for Lucy fans: he pretty much verbally assaulted her, and then when his mom came back home he turned into little angel with this innocent facial expression and all. And then we had him saying it would be better for Lucy to die, etc. And why does he feel bad? Because he thought about it afterwards and felt it wasn’t right thing to do? Nope, he needed Sandy to tell him this wasn’t nice.
So yeah, I can understand why some people want him beaten up.
Also… is he really feeling bad about it? Seeing his expression while he tells “she wanted him” I think he might start saying same stuff he told during December. If that’s the case, and he feels bad only since Sandy told him he should, and he isn’t convinced, then Rachel will end up with ruined living room. Since we’re up for one tough cat-fight.
Commander_Zero November 8, 2013, 5:22 PM EST.
O.O oh snaaaap its happening!!!!! aaaaaaand then it’ll end with a hangover
kitty777 November 8, 2013, 5:26 PM EST.
What if in next page Paulo just say : “Mike… Go home,you are drunk”
DrDominiguez November 8, 2013, 5:34 PM EST.
Okay is mike saying this for a reason, like he has some kinda plan, cus damn that was harsh
maybe he wants to get his *** kicked, LOL
Sleepingfox November 8, 2013, 5:53 PM EST.
I love how Rachie is just listening intently to all of this. It’s her party and she just sits there and listens to her younger friends and doesn’t force them out of their funk despite how outgoing she is. What a sweetie!
Lolly November 8, 2013, 6:10 PM EST.
HIGH FIVE @commander_zero
Mike needs to be punished. He needs to know he can’t treat people like that. I don’t want him to just feel bad, he needs to really regret it so that he realizes that you can’t and shouldn’t get away with encouraging suicide to a former friend. I don’t care what they did, it’s wrong.
Sandy shouldn’t have to had smacked him for him to get it. It should have been obvious. So now, he just needs his friends to be disappointed and angry at him so he doesn’t ever do this again.
Lickit&stickit November 8, 2013, 6:32 PM EST.
No, he really doesn’t. His relationship with Lucy was a toxic one, and it was totally justifiable for him to get her out of his life the way he did. Also, because so many people are willing to forget, he HAS a girlfriend. <—
So its also hard to get mad at him for trying to stay committed, a trait that a lot of this comic’s characters should learn.
But I don’t expect you to listen, Lucy defenders are worse than Kirino-****. No, she isn’t “Pure”, shes a bitch.
Eli November 8, 2013, 6:41 PM EST.
Any other people keep thinking how Lucy and Mike in 8th/Fall9th grade were just two kids too shy to talk about there feelings for another? Mike was too shy about reproaching the subject after his rejection in 6thGradeWinter… and Lucy was too shy for Mike hurt her in 3rd Grade/general social hardships?
Mike found it easier fantasizing about Sandy verses retry with Lucy after rejection. Lucy then call him out on it, and told him he should just called Sandy.
—AND HE DID—
Then that was beginning of all this new high school tension and drama.
And now we are here. Spring of Sophomore year. A lot has happened :3
Vanvoltra November 8, 2013, 6:42 PM EST.
CATFIGHT In 3… 2… well the next couple of pages for sure!
5Cats November 8, 2013, 6:52 PM EST.
Finnaly! Is he going to fess up or what!? I’ve been waiting for this forever!
JustSomeCritic November 8, 2013, 6:57 PM EST.
I still can’t believe people think Mike loved Lucy.
It was INFATUATION people. They are two different things.
Gate-senpai November 8, 2013, 7:01 PM EST.
And the proverbial hammer has droped. I forsee all hell breaking lose
kold kagura November 8, 2013, 7:06 PM EST.
Will Mike fight back, after he lets out what ever it is he is going to say people are going to be angry and want to have a go at him either through physical violence or yelling at him. We can tell that he is feeling guilty and I think that whatever gets thrown at him he is just going to take it as a way of punishing himself.
Chrisd765 November 8, 2013, 7:20 PM EST.
I don’t really think Mike is challenging Paulo with that statement… More like he senses that Paulo is blaming himself, and he’s shifting the blame towards himself (Mike). As in, «she liked me, I should’ve been better to her, it’s my fault». He doesn’t want Paulo to feel bad for something that isn’t his fault.
P.S.: NOT HELPING, DAISY
Sambo November 8, 2013, 7:21 PM EST.
Well that escalated quickly. >.> <.
Micy November 8, 2013, 7:35 PM EST.
@Moogle Hello there. As someone who was (admittedly emotionally) bullied for many years and suffered depression because of it, I can kind of reason that Lucy is a bully. I know that more than likely this is a very common anime trope (where the main character and their friends are constantly engaging in violent acts towards each other, ala Bleach), but she was still a bully. Mike kind of seems like a submissive person to me. He had several dominating people as friends (Lucy, Paulo, Sue) and let them abuse or use him in one way or another (not really as much Sue, but you get the point). When you’re the submissive in a relationship, it’s not likely you’re going to lash out until it’s too late. It’d be nice to do that when it starts, but that’s just not what happens. You just take it without the strength to fight it. All I’m saying is that Lucy was a bully whichever way you slice it, and he really doesn’t need to feel guilty about getting out of a bad relationship. There could’ve been some more tact, but it just happened to boil over. What do cats know about tact?
Shiloh November 8, 2013, 7:43 PM EST.
@Commander_Zero: Mike was able to do a well enough job fighting back as when he was drunk in Confrontation, but was lacking when it came to defending himself. Also, it won’t matter how good he is at fighting while drunk if he is rushed by several of them… even if it is just Paulo and Abbey or Paulo and Sue… actually even if he was just fighting Jessica, he would have to be careful since she could probably knock him out since she has better control of her alcohol. She won’t be fighting drunk and neither would Abbey… assuming Daisy doesn’t try to stop the fighting, but if Daisy joins in on the Mike bashing… well good luck Mike. The reason I’m mentioning Daisy is because she seems to be mad already and honestly who could bring themselves to fight Daisy? The worst Mike could do to Daisy is shove her away and feel incredibly guilty about it afterwards.
If they are going to have a common enemy, I would just love it if it was somebody that was fully deserving a total beat down… like Alejandro(the scar cat from Confrontation if you didn’t remember). Not somebody that is actually feeling sorry for their actions.
Oh don’t get me wrong… Mike is definitely not deserving any forgiveness for his past actions, but Mike shouldn’t be made out to be an evil jerk like I already see @Moogle doing it(I’ll get to you soon). Seriously, people did the same thing with Lucy in the past as they made her out to be some coldhearted girl that deserves to be alone(she’s not ).
Oh and now we get to Sandy… a girl that was worried about her boyfriend and only wanted him to be safe… how is anyone viewing her as an evil person? A little misguided of course, but that’s mostly because she dealt with the cards she was handed. Is it her fault that mike didn’t give her all the details? Nope… all she knew was that somebody was hurting her darling Maishul and she wanted it to stop. Did Mike ever tell Sandy about all the good times he shared with Lucy… how close they became… or any of the feelings they had for each other? Haha nope. Why would he want to put his relationship in danger like that? The answer is easy… he wouldn’t because he knows full well that talking about another girl you have feelings for, to your girlfriend, is probably a bad idea. Mike had no reason to tell Sandy about any of his friends and with those two being all lovey-dovey, I doubt that they are talking about anything besides how their day went and unfortunately(or fortunately depending on how you see it) Sandy just happened to catch onto Mike’s injuries. She shouldn’t have given advice to him without knowing the full story, but she reacted like any teenage girlfriend would… she was worried about him and wanted him to stop seeing whoever was hurting him. How was Sandy supposed to know about the complex friendship Mike had with Lucy? Before you say by asking… well think about it… would you ask why some stranger was hurting your friend or would you try and do something to make it stop?
@Commander_Zero: I recommend reading Breaking Up again. True, Sandy did tell Mike to apologize, but he sure wasn’t feeling bad about what he did at all. Even after talking about it to Sandy, there was still feelings of resentment. He didn’t blame himself at all, but the during memory transition, he went from seeing Lucy’s bad side only to seeing both the good and the bad… and then he broke down crying on the sidewalk because he realized he was wrong in the way he handled all of this. If he just felt bad because Sandy told him, then he should have broken down crying in front of her or on the phone with her, but no he did it right then and there after he had those memories of Lucy.
@Lickit&stickit: You want them to beat up Mike to show him that hurting friends is bad… hypocrisy at its’ finest. I’m not encouraging violence of any kind. I’d rather have them settle this by talking this out and maybe involving the parents. Hmm, I’m liking the parents idea more and more already.
@Eli: Okay, I can understand Mike wanting to be committed to his girlfriend Sandy, but he was falling for Lucy and even tried to make out with her when they were younger. Also, A New Leaf was where he confirmed his relationship with Sandy. So basically Mike didn’t consider Sandy his girlfriend up until High School. Both Mike and Lucy were getting mixed signals from each other until then and after they slowly started falling apart. For years Lucy had every right to win over Mike, but the moment that the relationship with Sandy and Mike was confirmed… well it was over from then… all they could do was stay friends and that is what Lucy wanted, but Mike was unable to keep his feelings in check and gave Lucy an ultimatum in Pick Me Up… you know how well that went(as in terribly). She was unable to handle that situation well at all and she ultimately made herself look like a relationship ruining girl that was lying just to make Mike stay. Well she wasn’t lying about loving him, but with all the time she was spending with Paulo sure made it seem that way. Hmm, I can’t say I agree with people that call Lucy a bitch… it may have been true a long time ago, but she stopped being a bitch when she realized it would cost her Mike… the last bad move that she did was this. http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c54/p10.html Ever since then she hasn’t been doing anything bad or harmful to Mike except for those flashbacks in December. This change doesn’t make her actions in the past disappear, but at least quit calling her a bitch already. Same with Mike and Daisy and Paulo and anyone else. They are teenagers, they are going to make mistakes, and constantly hating them for it is not going to make anything better. I’m not saying that they are in the right for what they have done, but they are trying and they at least feel bad about their mistakes.
supertails19 November 8, 2013, 7:43 PM EST.
@Eli well, Mike defenders like you aren’t any better as I read.
Always pointing at old slapstick jokes that are almost extinct by now.
I see it different way you know, sure she can be a bitch and Sometimes abusive if someone ticks her off but the abusive times are so way back in the past, you cant expect much from lil kids. Those like bully eachother for whatever reason. I think she grew up from that already by at least 90%.
Did you not noticed how programed Mike behaves?
Ever since Sandy got upsad with freaking tears over such small incidents with Lucy, he got afraid of losing his girlfriend which he may claim that she keeps him sane but I call it a bad addiction.
He would be no different towards Daisy if she didn’t find someone else.
He would rather send his own childhood long friend to grave than upsading Sandy. Mike would replace Lucy with Sandy any time no matter how much he liked her so offcorse she rejected him. He said himself he would rather want Lucy die in front of Sandy just to prove desperately to her that theres nothing between them.
He treated Lucy like the spawn from hell and totally forgot that shes a friend who actually cares about him.
She even barely hit him since the start of volume two so it kind of irritates me when ppl still bash her for “being abusive”.
Lucy even cared enough to encourage Mike to be with Sandy because she could see hes happy with her so why so much hating on her?
Whats wrong with loving a friend? Cant Mike take being in the friend-zone?
Did Mike really had the right to tell her that the group doesn’t love her and will leave her to follow him?
Is it really ok for Mike to get upsad at her when shes trying to move on?
Is it really necessary of him convincing everybody that Lucy’s life is his responcibility and that she don’t deserves as much happiness as he does with Sandy? He told himself that no one could ever love her for what she is.
He whines over everything she does.
No, he didn’t just go “Stop! Be more friendly and not abusive” he instead did all those things to send her where she is now… gone from his life just the way he intended and now he puts up a show of regret.
Even when she showed to be nice to him, he gave her only a cold look.
I think if you cant listen to why there is so much hate against Mike then atleast try understand the bitterness contributed from Mike which id call emotionaly very manipulative.
I think he should finaly get over with his bitterness but the way I see this page, despite trowing some tears and regrets, he hasn’t changed….at all.
I guess he is ment to be a jerk-face and the bad guy no matter how much Lucy still keeps seeing him as the greatest boy. Its not even a secret anymore
That’s right, he wasn’t treating her as his friend at all and used mental abuse. Hes actually just as abusive as many claim Lucy to be..yaikes
Personaly id want him to quit whining and accept Lucy as a friend already without starting those endless arguments and hate and just finally treat her as a friend instead of as his responsibility to glare at but then I guess it wouldn’t be BCB which these two represent the best in this comic
EvilKitty3 November 8, 2013, 7:46 PM EST.
@Moogle: Your comment… I like it and hate it at the same time. It shows you have been paying good attention, but you pretty much are blaming one character… Mike. Sheesh, blaming one kid for something several people played a part in. First of all, no one was forcing Lucy to be friends with Mike. Second, blaming him for the way he acted when he was a kid just seems silly at this point. Same with blaming Lucy for falling in love with him. Third, neither of them could help the way they acted when they were that little since they didn’t know better and it isn’t like anyone(teachers, parents, or others) ever made any attempts to fix this since they didn’t think much of it or didn’t see it(like when little kids tease each other and parents just say it is because the other one likes them… is it right? Hell no, if anyone tried this with my kids, then they would have to deal with me. ) However, this is just how it was for so long and by the time they were older, it became the norm for everyone around them. Finally, you can try blaming one of them all you like, but it is written into the story so well that it becomes nearly impossible to accurately put blame on one particular character. Even now it is hard to put blame only on one character because others played a part in it as well. If you have no idea about what I’m talking about, then try remembering about all the misunderstandings and situations with miscommunication in the past. Like Paulo taking advice from David and ultimately causing a lot of damage in Back and Forth, the situation in Acapulco where Mike nearly died and then saw Lucy in Paulo’s arms and Zachary pretty much unintentionally confirmed what Mike thought, Sandy’s advice in December which was also backed up by Abbey’s stance on bullying(check Feline Filibuster if you have no clue what I’m talking about and just look at Mike’s expression before and as he looks at Lucy).
BittersweetCandyBowl… the best source for teenage misunderstandings, awesome drama, and multiple relationships that will have you falling in love with this amazing story and develop strong feelings towards the characters… whether those feelings are positive or negative are up to all of you.
@EvilKitty: Maybe they could have had another shot to be friends again… if it wasn’t too late already. It took a hospital visit for Mike to realize what he meant to Lucy… to realize how much she cared about him… to be reminded of a genuine side of Lucy where he saw how much she really cared about him… but the damage is already done and all that Mike can feel now is regret and blame himself for what happened. He could have easily let Paulo take the blame by keeping his mouth shut, but instead Mike chose to open his mouth because he can’t let Paulo take the blame.
supertails19 November 8, 2013, 7:47 PM EST.
Wow, I suppose I shouldn’t expect you to read my comments either should I?
It has nothing to do with the whole Sandy thing versus Lucy as a romantic interest. No one is arguing that he should have cheated on Sandy. (Honestly, I have no idea where you got that one)
The real issue is he drove his emotionally unstable friend to attempt suicide. He needs to take responsibility like an adult. It’ll be a growing experience for him.
Summary of comments that are Pro-Mike getting away with driving Lucy to a mental breakdown:
“Mike gets to make a depressed person suicidal because he has the right! So toxic was his forced friendship to Lucy! The parasite.”
Sure, it’s not like he accepted her personality for years. He had no choice in their friendship. He was practically forced to enjoy her company. No he wasn’t ever smiling and happy with Lucy as his friend. Hell, she forced him to invite her over to his home everyday after classes. He has no responsibility whatsoever in his role within their friendship, we all KNOW he talked to her about it and it WASN’T working.
He’s just a victim of long term abuse! Just as he decided by himself years later from a fleeting comment by a confused Sand- *cough* I mean LUCY. Yeah Lucy! She revealed to him through distancing herself that she was still obsessed with him and was hell bent on destroying his relationship through not ever talking to him unless necessary. Lucy deserves to be screamed at and broken down by her ex-best friend Mike.
Got it. Your thoughts make so much sense to me now.
Lickit&stickit November 8, 2013, 7:50 PM EST.
Is no one going to blame SANDY!? she didnt know that Mike and Lucy had this friendship where they would be fighting like crazy and eating lunch/dinner while playing video games!! all she heard from Mike was “oh she kicked me but im fine dont worrie” “i got hit in the nose but its all cool”
she made him think that friends are only one way and that is they HAVE to be nice to you 24/7. i honestly blame Sandy because if it wernt for her saying “i dont like this girl” Mike and Lucy would still be good friends
mehhh third parties always ruin a good thing
Madi_mew November 8, 2013, 7:55 PM EST.
Hypocrite? Hahaha. You can’t read either.
I said his “perfect” image needs to be tarnished and shattered. Not that he needs to be beat up. He is getting away with all this because everyone thinks he’s such a nice guy. And we know he isn’t. Here on the page we see Daisy and everyone else completely separate him from what happened, because surely the handsome popular Mike can’t be a bad guy?
I blame a confused Sandy not knowing what’s happening. She hasn’t been shown to be very bright so my guess is she’d never be able to pick up on context clues. She also is starry-eyed over Mike’s image. That’s why he worries she’ll find him out as a bad person.
Lickit&stickit November 8, 2013, 7:56 PM EST.
@Lickit&andstickit: I was replying to this. > “Mike needs to be punished. He needs to know he can’t treat people like that. I don’t want him to just feel bad, he needs to really regret it…
So now, he just needs his friends to be disappointed and angry at him so he doesn’t ever do this again.”
@Madi_mew: Well this is how I feel about Sandy.
“Oh and now we get to Sandy… a girl that was worried about her boyfriend and only wanted him to be safe… how is anyone viewing her as an evil person? A little misguided of course, but that’s mostly because she dealt with the cards she was handed. Is it her fault that mike didn’t give her all the details? Nope… all she knew was that somebody was hurting her darling Maishul and she wanted it to stop. Did Mike ever tell Sandy about all the good times he shared with Lucy… how close they became… or any of the feelings they had for each other? Haha nope. Why would he want to put his relationship in danger like that? The answer is easy… he wouldn’t because he knows full well that talking about another girl you have feelings for, to your girlfriend, is probably a bad idea. Mike had no reason to tell Sandy about any of his friends and with those two being all lovey-dovey, I doubt that they are talking about anything besides how their day went and unfortunately(or fortunately depending on how you see it) Sandy just happened to catch onto Mike’s injuries. She shouldn’t have given advice to him without knowing the full story, but she reacted like any teenage girlfriend would… she was worried about him and wanted him to stop seeing whoever was hurting him. How was Sandy supposed to know about the complex friendship Mike had with Lucy? Before you say by asking… well think about it… would you ask why some stranger was hurting your friend or would you try and do something to make it stop?”
So no. -_- I’m not blaming Sandy for being concerned about her boyfriend.
supertails19 November 8, 2013, 8:00 PM EST.
Yeah, disappointed. Not ripping mad, though in this scenario that’s what’ll happen. (And if it does it’ll only be Mike’s fault for confessing himself while everyone was drunk like an idiot.) Mike won’t take responsibility unless his friends make him realize that what he did was wrong. And it starts with them realizing he isn’t so nice. I’m sure whatever his friends say won’t go anywhere near to the point of what he did to Lucy. Mike really doesn’t care much about anything other than appearances and Sandy.
And before you even go there, Lucy was a child when she used to do anything remotely close to abuse. I’d like to point out that he was right along with her beating her up and throwing punches and shoving her in the snow.
They were kids, and kids scuffle until they are older and know better. Mike should know better. Lucy already was expressing that she knew better after talking to Zachery. And she changed, Mike got worse.
Lickit&stickit November 8, 2013, 8:09 PM EST.
thea November 8, 2013, 8:20 PM EST.
Hah! Hahahah!! It WAS your fault! Irony!
Good bittersweet god there’s a lot of comments.
Follarch November 8, 2013, 8:40 PM EST.
@Lickit&stickit: “I said his “perfect” image needs to be tarnished and shattered. Not that he needs to be beat up. He is getting away with all this because everyone thinks he’s such a nice guy. And we know he isn’t. Here on the page we see Daisy and everyone else completely separate him from what happened, because surely the handsome popular Mike can’t be a bad guy?”
Paulo got pretty close to figuring things out back in Pick Me Up but was stopped by Lucy before he could put together anything other than needing to punch Mike(which he already did in Leaving Home), Sue strangled Mike at the Study Buddy and left it at that(closest to actually having a clue, but like everyone else, she had no evidence to pursue it any further), and Daisy is too blinded by her crush on him to put the pieces together(still thinks that he isn’t to blame). Only Mike has the power to tell them what happened in December because he’s the only one in Roseville that fully understands the situation. Lucy never said a word of it to anyone that is still here in Roseville.
@Lickit&stickit: I’m pretty sure Mike stopped fighting her a long time ago and the scene you were thinking about was when they were younger. Lucy remembered it in Pillow Talk and it was where Mike tried to kiss Lucy in her room after they played on the snow. He was rejected in a way that definitely hurt him. It wasn’t because she didn’t like him, but because she wasn’t ready yet. That still gave him the wrong idea. Same with Lucy acting the same violent way that she did for so long. By the time she stopped, Mike was already sick of it. Basically years of her acting the same way and Mike didn’t do anything to help. He didn’t know that what she was doing was wrong and neither did she. *shrugs* Call it what you want, but they just didn’t know better and neither of them handled things properly when they did know better. Thanks to all the misunderstandings in volume 2 and 3, it was only a matter of time before Mike and Lucy completely fell apart.
supertails19 November 8, 2013, 8:43 PM EST.
And hello again, drama llama. Hm.. Since its a comic about cats, I wonder if it should be DRAMA CAT instead of drama llama
Mike, everyone knows she wanted you. Paulo just meant that if Lucy had ever given him a chance, because the guy wanted that to happen so, so badly. Unless Mike’s saying this to tell Paulo that he’s not at fault here (if that was it, then my bad ). ANYWAY, Mike is drunk and may confess something, I’m more interested in THAT bit. Best of luck there, Mike.
Subaru November 8, 2013, 9:15 PM EST.
“Mike won’t take responsibility unless his friends make him realize that what he did was wrong.”
Well I don’t know about that, I am pretty sure his break down in the snow was him realising what happened to Lucy was his responsibility, as well as the comment made on this very page. He doesn’t blame anyone else for what has happened.
Anialator November 8, 2013, 9:18 PM EST.
@supertails19 my good friend, as much you pretty much described Sandy so nicely, id like to point out that there is something where she gets the blame for in my opinion. As she makes a huge whiny fuzz about Mike putting up with Lucy, she doesn’t listens to Mike trying to explain her anything positive about Lucy. She outright questioned him if hes in love with her, making Mike feel threathened that their relationship migh be in danger. She was rather demanding and expressed her hate towards Lucy which makes me rather feel there is more behind Sandy than what we have seen sofar. During her chapter I think there were quite a few things worth to mention like her expressions when she talks to Mike on the phone or as we get to see her repeat her groove of always looking professional. I think there is a high chance shes hiding something and isn’t as perfect as Mike pictures her. Then again, until there is more, ill have to stick with having evil eye at Mike for letting himself get so easy manipulated for the sake of their relationship. Eather way,we shall see whats going to happen
EvilKitty3 November 8, 2013, 9:37 PM EST.
Its death by a thousand papercuts. Sure he may have had a thicker skin then, but it wears down after awhile, whether she was being mean jokingly or not. Also, I’m don’t think Mike is in the absolute right either, he could have approached the situation in a less abusive way, but I don’t think what he said justifies getting beat to hell by everyone.
Eli November 8, 2013, 9:48 PM EST.
I’m worried what’s gonna happen next. :c
Zephyr November 8, 2013, 9:50 PM EST.
Regardless if its true, thats still a jerkish thing to say mike
Mr. Morningstar November 8, 2013, 10:17 PM EST.
AND THE CAT IS OUT OF THE BAG! Get it? The cat—Lucy’s a cat—is out of the—nvm. Everyone’s sad now.
Just-A-Lurker November 8, 2013, 10:30 PM EST.
GooltheFool November 8, 2013, 10:40 PM EST.
Welp, ***** about to get real. Good going Mike though you could try blaming the alcohol.
Sable November 8, 2013, 10:53 PM EST.
HERE WE GOOOO!!!
Lumi November 8, 2013, 10:55 PM EST.
omg, the sound that came out of my mouth wasn’t human.. aw man maishul, OH MAN.
Shhhh November 8, 2013, 11:04 PM EST.
Mike and Paulo are going to argue about who lucy liked the most, aren’t they? who did Lucy like the most, Paulo or Mike?
Blake A. Roten November 9, 2013, 12:19 AM EST.
I swear panel 7 looks like Paulo is back-hugging Mike or something, whatever that’s called.
Dragnite November 9, 2013, 12:36 AM EST.
Ooh, is it Secret Spilling time?
Emoji November 9, 2013, 1:13 AM EST.
oh holy crap / /.\ \ i cant watch
Stridon November 9, 2013, 2:54 AM EST.
Oh Daisy, you say the best things.
Seggi November 9, 2013, 3:47 AM EST.
I think Mike and Lucy should just bang, and get it out the door, Christ!
“Oh, but I don’t know if I am ready” or “I don’t know if I really love you”, and yet they keep playing up the sexual tension and aggression. Just bang, kids, bang till you get it off your chest or dick or whatever!
It’s funny people are even debating it: THEY ARE BOTH IN THE WRONG! Mike was young and wanted to bang a young Lucy, who turned him down. Then Mike got raw, but tried to adjust to the reject, which is when Lucy started getting moist for him, but tried to play it tough with her “Tomboy” act. Then Mike started to get annoyed and Sandy pretty much bagged him, so Lucy got desperate and said she “loved Mike” who at that point didn’t care and pretty much shouted her down to the level of scum. Now Lucy is trying to freeze her feelings and Mike is trying to keep his own old feelings from coming back.
Just bang, Christ Almighty, just bang and get it done with! Life is too short for this kind of ****. Pretty soon you’re gonna be old as fossils and look back thinking “Wow, I am glad I let all those boats sail, because I am a derp”.
Blank On Purpose November 9, 2013, 3:55 AM EST.
….Happy Birthday, Rachel!
—We brought you a s**t-ton of drama, hope you like it!
Seriously, I know they’re drunk and well, the BCB gang, but this is going full-on insensitive ******** territory fast!
(also Daisy, you are somehow even more awesome than you were before!)
Abbadonna November 9, 2013, 3:57 AM EST.
And drama begins oh I wanna see the next one. It gonna be awesome. Tell the true mike, tell them everything >:3
eagle November 9, 2013, 4:43 AM EST.
Wow. There are so many ppl siding up with either Mike or Lucy. Personally I think its both their fault. But I don’t think that Mike should have assaulted her back in December. Well it was pretty right of him to do so at first but he went to far. But I’m still a MikexLucy fan but I understand if they never be together .
I don’t think ppl should flame just yet. I think ppl should listen first what Mike has to say .
But what I am thinking right now is Alejandro . He said that he wanted to get revenge over Mike and Lucy and he was using Augustus to give him information . So I’m worried if he will try to strike either Mike or Lucy . I think that Mike would come first since Lucy has moved away from Roseville and I don’t think Alejandro knows where she lives right now
Jonas97face November 9, 2013, 4:51 AM EST.
Normally i say really long comments but all i could come up with for this one was AWE ****!!!
CheeseCoatedChopper November 9, 2013, 5:08 AM EST.
Oh for the love of.. Mike shut the heck up will you!? Nobody likes you!!
Lol November 9, 2013, 5:55 AM EST.
Mike you ****ing little ****!!!
Juki November 9, 2013, 6:23 AM EST.
Mike is just telling the truth, i don´t get why everyone seems to hate him for that, everyone can make misstakes.
anon November 9, 2013, 7:00 AM EST.
Hahahaha. This is funny people thinking that either Lucy was more to blame or mike was more to blame. They were obviously both to blame. But do to mikes Christmas present to Lucy he is to blame for ultimately killing there relationship and her trip to the hospital. Im not saying he needs to have the **** beat out of him but he needs feel sad like he does now.
Blue fox November 9, 2013, 7:46 AM EST.
At this point I say let the world burn at tell them all micheal. This should be fun.
Robyn November 9, 2013, 8:15 AM EST.
Panel 4: Everyone’s out of booze and/or beverages? There’s not a glass or bottle to be seen!
5Cats November 9, 2013, 10:42 AM EST.
*Grabs Popcorm* The Ball is in the Field !
Regular reader November 9, 2013, 10:49 AM EST.
Oh it’s on now!!
Curo November 9, 2013, 11:49 AM EST.
The truth is revealing through the veil, confess Mike.
wolven_DM November 9, 2013, 12:19 PM EST.
Tp tp tp. Mike. She actually wanted…
o_o November 9, 2013, 12:51 PM EST.
I strongly worry now.
Friedhelm November 9, 2013, 2:21 PM EST.
the lord inquisitor bob November 9, 2013, 4:20 PM EST.
i shipped paulo and lucy from the start ;-;
saytie November 9, 2013, 4:47 PM EST.
MY SHIP HAS SUNK -crys-
asenicCatmagddon November 9, 2013, 5:09 PM EST.
Da *** Mike….really? You were the only thing she wanted? After you rejected her, the only thing she wanted to you to be her friend again. And as I recall she admitted that Paulo had been her first crush anyway.
BetaMonkey November 9, 2013, 6:23 PM EST.
@Betamonky mike is kind of what she wanted and he was cause of her depression, she just wanted him in her life period.
As for Paulo even though he is my favorite character I afraid to say that no matter how close he gets to her and even if she did develops feelings for him, it won’t be the same way she loved mike.
Oh and Mike as hard as he tried to lie to himself the truth was he loved her just as much as she did,he saw that as a problem that could his relationship with sandy and even though he tried to distance himself from her it wasn’t enough, he had to get rid of her, he told her to get out of his life, she gave him what he wanted and that his best friend and first love is because of him, the person that hates him more than anyone else IS HIMSELF!
lov/hate/hurt November 9, 2013, 7:51 PM EST.
Is Lucy coming back?
Sammy November 9, 2013, 9:02 PM EST.
“He could have easily let Paulo take the blame by keeping his mouth shut, but instead Mike chose to open his mouth because he can’t let Paulo take the blame.”
it’s the second time I have to tell you: THEY ARE DRUNK. they are not choosing what to do, they just say what comes to their mind. if he really did it on purpose, to take the blame away from paulo, he surely wouldn’t have said “don’t be stupid”, don’t you think?
boh... November 9, 2013, 9:14 PM EST.
Actually Mike just hates that Paulo wants to be there for Lucy.
He wants to pretend that another guy wouldn’t ever be friends with her. Because he needs to hate Lucy to glorify his feelings for Sandy. Who, by the way, he really can’t possibly know who she really is anyway because he doesn’t see her enough. I believe long distance works, but only when it starts in person first. (At actual dating ages, not just kindergarten when most people think the opposite gender has cooties. )
There is something valuable about looking someone in the face to gauge who they really are and if they mean the words they say and phones don’t cut it.
Lickit&stickit November 9, 2013, 10:49 PM EST.
Well SOMEONE has a big ego. (No he doesn’t I am very much aware that she had feelings for Mike. Do not yell at me via internet)
Timni November 10, 2013, 1:56 AM EST.
ROUND ONE!!! FIGHT!!!
judge November 10, 2013, 2:13 AM EST.
At first, I thought Paulo was hugging Mike
Hello November 10, 2013, 2:14 AM EST.
@lickit&stickit Pretty sure Mike’s anger at Lucy hanging out with other guys is less anger about other guys “being there for her” and more that Lucy could move on so quickly after confessing her love to him. Gives off the impression, from his perspective, that she actually didn’t love him, and that she just said it to keep him around. If someone told you they loved you for their own benefit, for you to later have reason to believe they were being dishonest, you would feel betrayed also, would you not?
Anialator November 10, 2013, 8:42 AM EST.
Am I the only one that thought paulo and mike were hugging at first?
Cutecat November 10, 2013, 11:39 AM EST.
Mike comes off as a little conceited here. Lucy had feelings for Paulo too, and Paulo was always there for her. While Mike was busy with Sandy, Paulo always had time to listen to Lucy and be there when she needed him, even if he had a girlfriend at the time, he still cared enough about her as a friend, whereas Mike seemed to care less and less about her the closer he got to Sandy. I am curious about Rachel, though. She clearly understands that Paulo is in love with Lucy, and while she cares about him, I get the feeling she’s more comforting him than anything. She seems like the type to enjoy a good roll in the hay, but she’s capable of separating emotional and physical attachment. It’s an interesting relationship. She doesn’t seem to want to date Paulo, but she has been comforting him, yet she’s sleeping with him.
I do wonder if Taeishi’s written Lucy out of the story for good or not. The implication seemed to be that the pets were gone for good, and Lucy was a very important part of the story for most of it, so it’d be interesting to see how it goes without her.
ShadowKat November 10, 2013, 11:42 AM EST.
Fight for her!
Jake November 10, 2013, 1:27 PM EST.
interesting that everyone is still rooting for Rachel being Paulo’s gf when clearly that is not the nature of their relationship… at least not in the traditional sense.
basically, she likes having sex. Paulo fulfills that desire… for the moment. this is in addition to her understanding sympathetic side, and an underlying belief that banging everyone solves everything.
if Paulo moves on, I’m sure Rachel will be fine.
as for Mike, while he’s not lying outright, I think his perspective is skewed.
I hope they all meet Lucy later in college at a concert after she takes that guys record deal. I could see her singing paramore’s song “ain’t it fun”, while walking around her old friends, with a devil-may-care attitude!
Meridian November 10, 2013, 5:34 PM EST.
Not really, the only time Lucy showed she wanted Paulo was when she wanted his bone to make her feel better about herself. Beyond that we never saw anything that could decisively say she was in love with Paulo. If anything he was more her plan B/consulation prize.
@boh ( a few pages back)
Sorry for the late LATE reply. my internet has been wonky lately. Anyhow, It was easy to call Daisy. But it still begs the question how blown out of proportion her version of past events are. We really have had no one collaborate her story. I mean looking at now, if this is indeed daisy’s vision of what lucy has done then it makes me wonder if her memory hasn’t been twisted and tainted by her anger.
I’d agree save for Paulo’s reaction. It seems he thinks of Rachel as a bit more than a ****-buddy. It’s unclear if it’s reciprocated by Rachel, Rachel seems to be acting like a very strange older sister than a possible girlfriend.
buchanen_neket November 10, 2013, 5:35 PM EST.
yoooo some of the **** you people say is concerning as ****
As a person who’s left abusive friendships and who has spoken to a few people who have escaped really PHYSICALLY DANGEROUS friendships, it is not anyone’s responsibility to stay friends or even speak to someone who’s dealt physical and emotional harm to them?? And that they “didn’t realize” is not an excuse??
Mecha Pencil November 10, 2013, 5:42 PM EST.
You’re punching the heavy bag friend. I’ve argued that like crazy, but because she’s mentally troubled that absolves her of blame for everything in some of the commenters eyes. She beat the crap out of her friend “oh that’s just her way” or “oh, mike should stop being a wimp” that’s the response. I could go on but you’re basically arguing at a brick wall.
buchanen_neket November 10, 2013, 5:47 PM EST.
Which is actually reeeally terrifying. :y
Mecha Pencil November 10, 2013, 6:11 PM EST.
Mike does seem conceited but he’s telling the truth, if you go back you’ll see that aside from being physically attracted to Paulo, Lucy mainly was concerned with Mike. And honestly Paulo blew that himself looooong before Jasmine showed up, he was constantly hitting on almost ALL the girls, kept trying to feel Lucy up, and whenever he seemed to be getting his act together majorly screwed up. Why would she be interested in him seriously when he was constantly sending mixed signals? Sure Paulo was there when he wasn’t pawing over all the other girls, but then you’d see him again and it’d be a complete 180. And this is coming from a former Paulo x Lucy shipper! He would be a decent guy if he had some self control for crying out loud, I just want to see him pick himself up and grow up a bit his tough guy act is getting old.
You did read the whole comic from volume 1 right? Or did you start from two? Mike doesn’t need to make lucy miserable to validate his relationship. He tried being friends with her but she KEPT being rude and violent (which depending on your background can be either funny or upsetting), and didn’t want to acknowledge his relationship with Sandy (I dunno why she kept hiding it from Yashi when Yashi knew waaaay back when he first called Sandy http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c20/p2.html). What made Mike upset with the Paulo situation was how quickly she ran to Paulo when she couldn’t be with Mike, it made it seem like she didn’t honestly care at all about him http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c45/p5.html . Which hurt because at one point he did have feelings for her, not just as a replacement he really wanted to just forget Sandy and move on with her http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c20/p4.html.
That being said its still both of their faults, he should have set boundaries with her, and should never have used her as a replacement. And when he couldn’t deal with her anymore he should have tried to calmly end the friendship and just walk away. And she should have just been honest (I like you but I think we’re too young etc) and not kept physically abusing him (and pretty much everyone else). I think the main problem with the hitting is one minute its supposed to be funny (though if you look at the comments a lot of people did NOT think it was funny), next its supposed to be serious its really hard to follow how we’re supposed to feel about things sometimes.
Also Sandy does not seem as immature/stupid as some of the other cast, she could tell that something was going on/had gone on between Mike and Lucy thats why she asked if he loved her. Why else would he be defending such an abusive friend? Why didn’t he stop it sooner etc? If he didn’t like her and she was honestly hurting him (which she was) why keep being friends with someone like that?
Samm-y November 10, 2013, 6:27 PM EST.
I don’t understand that sometimes I mean yes she has some issues ( I use issues lightly since her only problem at first was that she didn’t fit in with other kids due to being a tomboy), but she pretty much forced herself on a kid who never wanted to be friends and tried to get away from her. And rather then try to see why he didn’t like her she just kept at it never really stopping and then getting worse once his girlfriend left. She does have a good side but still you can’t go around being mean to people and then never expect them to blow up (yes he went too far but come on this went on for YEARS before he finally said enough). Its kinda like how people wanna blame the abused spouse/partner when they finally snap and attack/leave the person that was abusing them. Crazy logic.
Samm-y November 10, 2013, 6:38 PM EST.
preaching to the choir here. In a past incarnation (read: past username) i pointed that out, that they both had screwed the pooch. But people are so hell bent on there being some karmatic retribution because their favorite white kitty got her feelings hurt that they’ve blinded themselves to seeing both sides of the issue and live with demonizing Mike. I’ll be the first to admit that maybe there are things Mike could have done better, but Lucy was no saint either. She was downright horrible to Mike and her other friends at times.
Doesn’t help that she tried to kill herself, thus giving a sense of justification to the retribution seekers. I’d get into that one, but that’s a whole other can of worms that i’d rather not open. All i will say is that Mike didn’t force her to try and kill herself and leave it at that.
buchanen_neket November 10, 2013, 6:48 PM EST.
After that last panel any chance for mike and paulo cannon was put on a rocket and blasted into the sun… T.T
CheeseCoatedChopper November 10, 2013, 7:45 PM EST.
I like where this is going. But Mike, you need to stop grinding yourself. Hindesight is a bitch.
Twoplussfiveequalsseven November 10, 2013, 8:05 PM EST.
riririn November 10, 2013, 8:17 PM EST.
I think Mike is kind of right… I mean, Lucy did have a crush on Paulo, but Mike was the main reason she stayed. But although I seriously love drama… they’re totally party pooping Rachel’s birthday And also, Paulo is like “Omaiguts, I shouldn’t have dated Jasmine becuase Lucy is soooo much better, even though if I was dating Lucy I wouldn’t be with Rachel, but I’m going to say how much I love Lucy in front of Rachel anyway ‘cause I prefer Luce. Waaaah, miss my princess, boohoohooooo.” And that makes me feel really bad for Rachie, even if she always tries to pretend it doesn’t hurt her and make nothing of it
Marina :3 November 10, 2013, 8:44 PM EST.
i have the feeling that Amaya is gonna say something in this chapter
Cryotic November 10, 2013, 8:50 PM EST.
Personally, I love intelligential debate about literature. I love really the comments but several things has been bothering me. I try to be neutral for the most part but in this situation I’m going to stick up for Lucy.
A lot of people have been giving her grief, claiming she’s abusive and a bitch and toxic to Mike. I also heard a lot of people saying that they in fact, are or know victims of abusive relationships (I am sorry for your situations and applaud those that left them, it takes a lot of courage). This comic gives the point of view from BOTH sides however, and in this situation, I believe that the “bully” is more of a victim. Why? Sit down and let me explain. It will take a while.
This is once a /comic/. Not a drama. A normal slice of life, with cats, comic. What’s one of the traditions of comics? Physical slapsticks humor. A punch in the balls are as funny as they are painful in comics. When this became a drama, the humor was still there, perhaps to a lesser degree but it was still there. Then just one chapter, it was all the sudden abuse. It was all the sudden abuse. We never saw Mike limping or having a nosebleed until the slapstick turned into a plot point. In my opinion this was too sudden of a transaction but we have to work with what we have. Comic slapsticks consists of comedic opportunities taken and shown. Plot abuse consists of reactions from the characters (ex: What’s wrong with you!?). This turned into plot when Sandy told Mike that he shouldn’t put up with the abuse, which is understandable and I’ll get to her in a moment. But if one looks at the amount of “abuse” that Lucy has done when this officially became a drama, well, the comedic amount puts the plot amount to shame so to speak. This wasn’t constant abuse, and at times didn’t look like abuse. More like a friendly cuff to the arm or a slap to the head that resembles a mother scolding her snickering son, the only difference Mike wasn’t snickering. Have you guys also noticed that Lucy never hits him when she has a reason to (ex: when he rejected her confession, when he ditched her in the first chapter of Starting Over, in the premier of the school play)? This shows that she doesn’t hit to hurt (I admit that it doesn’t look like that at times) but rather how she shows her feelings, it even says so in her description! This concludes on what I believe is a myth on her (terrible) abuse. Don’t get me wrong, hitting is still horrible but I’m trying to prove that this wasn’t like Abbey’s parents sort of abuse as a lot of people seem to think.
Tylord November 10, 2013, 9:50 PM EST.
Another point that I like to point out is that Lucy grew up as an outcast for being herself. The only love she received was from her parents and never from anyone from her age. When Mike started being friendly toward her, you should /expect/ that she would follow him as she wouldn’t want to let go of the feeling. What did they do as children? Tumble and wrestle as children do. Mike went along with it. Lucy was happy that she found someone that could accept her. As they grew however, Lucy held on that memory of playing like a security blanket while Mike grew out of it. She thought that that punch to the shoulder would have the same amount of friendship as when they were when they were little. Little did she know that that this would be one of the reasons that Mike would leave her. Like I said, this diminished as the comic became more serious. Some of you may cry “it doesn’t matter, it’s still abuse!” and I have an answer for that; this is the only way that she knew how to make sure that Mike was still a friend of hers. She never had friends before, she doesn’t know how to treat them and Mike never told her “this is wrong.” If you look closer, you notice that she only does this to two people officially, Mike and Paulo. The same people that are closer to her than to anyone else, the ones that /she/ considers her friend. She still hasn’t grew out of it is what I’m trying to say, but she started/ grew out of it by the time she attempted suicide.
I notice quite of few of you are blaming Sandy. Blaming her for what? Worrying about her boyfriend? She told Mike that Lucy shouldn’t be harming him and says “I don’t think I like her”, but when Lucy texted Sandy of her regrets and apologizes, Sandy immediately changes her mind. Not saying that she likes Lucy, but rather withdraws her opinion of Lucy being a bad person without even meeting her. Then she even suggests to Mike to make up with Lucy, another girl mind you, so that they wouldn’t have a bad relationship. This is after hearing Mike telling of the injuries he bore. Sandy is totally innocent in this, so please let her be. She only knows Lucy by name and handled the situation she was GIVEN and not PRESENT in maturely.
Tylord November 10, 2013, 9:51 PM EST.
Lastly, what I think what all this led up to; Lucy’s suicide attempt. Mike started to drift away from her, which from personal experience is the worst way to end a friendship. Lucy doesn’t know what she did wrong but all the sudden her first and what she felt like was her only friend wants nothing to do with her, even though she’s been treating him the same way since they were kids. She never got an explanation or even a clue, only that he was drifting and she went after him, after that childish unconditional love that he once gave her. And in December it all came crushing down with Mike’s proclamation of hate for her. This is from the same mouth that once told her he loved her.
What he said was beyond damaging. People keep pointing out that Mike is young that he didn’t mean what he said yadda yadda yadda. But Lucy is a GIRL teenager. For females, this is the period where their self-esteem is most vulnerable (guys have it rough too, but they don’t have as much pressure). The period where they are expected to be pretty, athletic, smart, and perfect in every way. Look at Sandy, the pressure of this is already crushing down on her as we can see her daily life in To the Top. Now imagine Lucy with the drama intact mixed in with all this. Her only friend for years that confessed his love for her is telling her that he hates her with so much passion that tears form. He tells her that she’s not worth loving and that she’s so pathetic for trying to find comfort in people because deep inside they hate her too. The love of a friend that she so desperately wants is now unreachable in her mind. He even tells her that Paulo, the ones that actually loves her, hates her as well. He calls out on her for having rebounds despite of using Lucy as a rebound himself when Sandy left. This was so agonizing for Lucy that it caused her a PHYSICAL REACTION. Mike attacked every weakness she had. Everything she feared he claimed would come true. She would be alone again, that love from her family was just a mask as his had been. Remember Augustus said in the chapter? She has everything from friends to a good home to a good family. Mike just took that imagery and shattered it, claiming that she wasn’t worth it, that she didn’t deserve it. The worst part? He said all this after she was wishing him a good relationship with Sandy and trying to get over her heartbreak at the same time. Her first reaction? APOLOGIZE TO SANDY. She never tried to break them up even with the perfect opportunity.
Do I think Mike should get punished? By some degree from the other cast yes. Do I hate Mike? No, but that doesn’t excuse what he did. Does Mike deserve to be beaten to a pulp by Paulo? Not going to lie, I would feel worse for Paulo since he already has a bad rep but it would be entertaining if Sue or someone did. But overall, I feel like he knew what he did was wrong and redeemed himself a little by the guilt he’s been harboring. I feel it’s more important that the truth gets out there than anything. As long as that gets out there I don’t care how it plays out.
Tylord November 10, 2013, 9:52 PM EST.
Sorry @Samm-y, but it makes no sense when anyone argues that Mike was “forced” to be friends with her.
He didn’t have to walk her home everyday, he didn’t have to invite her over to play games with him, and he didn’t HAVE to sit with her for hours and talk with her about life under that tree. But he did. He obviously wanted to otherwise he wouldn’t do any of it. I’m sure Lucy wouldn’t have forced him on it either because whenever he avoided her, we see her recluse from him as well (as a child and adult).
He was her friend, of his own choosing, can we accept as much? Point made, when I read the comic I didn’t see the mild scrapping between the two of them as abuse. Because they were children and it was always pretty mutual scrapping with injuries between the two of them. I slightly agree with older comments about that part of the comic being confusing if we were supposed to think it was abuse. It always came across as light-hearted by the other characters. Maybe it was just open to interpretation. Either way, this is why I tend to side with Lucy because from my point of view, Mike is the one who was inflicted the most harm here. (From ditching her for Sandy as children then crawling back later, to his tantrum in December)
I also wouldn’t say that just because Lucy didn’t want to talk about it with Yashy, doesn’t mean she didn’t accept that he had a girlfriend. She was probably just thinking it wasn’t going to last due to the ages.
“All i will say is that Mike didn’t force her to try and kill herself and leave it at that.”
This is really debatable. We literally read him say he wished she was dead to Sandy, along with his long standing hatred whenever Lucy was mentioned in her condition at the hospital. I really do not think he was unaware of Lucy’s mental instability being as close as they were. Do you really think he cut her down in that way just to get her to leave? She was already actively accepting his decision to not be her friend be not talking. They were forced together on a project and she was just trying to get through it while he was acting like an *** the entire time.
He didn’t need to scream to make it any more clear, but he does it anyway. I don’t know if he was seriously thinking she’d do anything, but he willingly hit enough emotional vital points to drive her there. And he didn’t apologize until the damage was long done and even when he saw what he’d done to her eyes at the play, he still put all the blame on her and was still in a petty fit, “Well, Imma forget, but not really it’s not like everything is okay! >:C ”
Big fight with beloved best friend since childhood, then jump? That is a definite correlation. You’d be stupid to not realize that the conversation was the last negative impact in their life that probably nailed in their decision to jump off that ledge.
Lickit&stickit November 10, 2013, 10:20 PM EST.
Thank you @Tylord!
You summed up my thoughts much more clearly than I was able to.
And to add, literally a page ago there was Daisy slapping her man in the balls to add some humor to the situation. Had Abbey reacted angrily, we would have assumed that he was angry with Daisy or her decision to drink which led to the incident.
And before that the Guard was getting physical with Paulo even though most guards are meant to just physically grab/move people not just thump them on the head. But it was added for a comic effect.
And way back in December we have Sandy *slapping* Mike so hard his head goes from straight to the ceiling. I assume it wasn’t meant to be abusive either or he would have had a different reaction to it.
Lickit&stickit November 10, 2013, 10:27 PM EST.
THERE’S Mike being the little **** he is. THAT’S the one we all know.
TwitchMan November 10, 2013, 10:39 PM EST.
Grab the popcorn, and pray to God this ends well.
Xeneus November 10, 2013, 11:00 PM EST.
Mike. Stop. I was ALMOST ready to think of you as a person instead of a monster again. But now you’re right back on track to King Douche.
Alphieus November 10, 2013, 11:10 PM EST.
Before the new drama train starts may I say Rachel is awesome for being like 100% okay for the drinks, the drama in her house, and being there for Paulo when she knows he isn’t? Good !
PrincessKarina November 10, 2013, 11:51 PM EST.
I think mikes has had enough, something in him has broken, and I’m guessing its more painful than any beating that could be handed to him
lov/hate/hurt November 11, 2013, 12:44 AM EST.
omg… mike… stop…WHAT’RE YOU DOING?! YOU’RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING VERY BAD, I KNOW IT! *hides under pillow*
Psychofoxpickle November 11, 2013, 12:51 AM EST.
Those poor kids.
I’m mostly thinking about the hangovers they’ll have.
That and you can bet Paulo will get into a bit of trouble once his dad notices the missing alcohol.
I’m just clutching my face from all the bad decisions they make and probably will regret later. Hopefully they’ll learn from these things.
Manda November 11, 2013, 12:51 AM EST.
Oh yeah, I’m so going to love this!
Cavara November 11, 2013, 4:26 AM EST.
@ Tylord WELL ****ING SAID!! You have a lot of the same feelings and thoughts I do. I’m pretty sure supertails19 would love your comment as well.
Blue fox November 11, 2013, 8:29 AM EST.
Oh snap crackle pop, things are gettin’ SRS.
Gabba November 11, 2013, 10:08 AM EST.
I’m gonna respond to you first since the reply is shorter (great post Tylord) The reason I say it was forced is because 1 he really did NOT want to be her friend at first, he didn’t like her and frequently asked her to go away, 2 He only agreed to be friends because he felt sorry for her but he still did not like her hitting/combative behavior but just put up with it and eventually he got used to her. Having been in both situations its much harder being the person who is stuck with someone they don’t like. If try being nice they cling tighter, you spend time with people you like they get jealous or keep hanging around even when you just want to be left alone. And if the person does hit or have some other bad habit you don’t like to the point of wanting to break off the relationship you usually end up being the bad guy who’s terrible. I really understand how Lucy feels and she was just wanting to not be so alone, but it still didn’t really change their relationship. He only really kept her around because he was using her to get over Sandy, it was really mutually parasitic. Think about it she clung to him because she thought no one else would like her potentially blocking out any positive friend ships she COULD have had, and he was being jealous/possessive because she was his pretend Sandy. I do think they had good moments and if they could have just made a fresh start they might have been able to have a good friendship.
EDIT: Actually you know what makes no sense? She started hitting because Alejandro hit on her and she was scared. Soooo why did she start hitting EVERYONE else after that?? Confusing
What made it seem like abuse was when she would hit him (and others) hard to the point where they had bruises. But you’re right kids do scrap and fight and play around a lot, but when mike would tell her it hurt or get angry that didn’t come across as playing. Lucy hit pretty much everyone but Sue she even hit Abbey remember? And Tess/others we’re trying to figure out why she was so abusive/mean. It made the whole thing really confusing (but I guess realistic to an extent because wouldn’t most guys at that age hit a girl back? ) one minute it seems like its set up for a laugh but then you see other characters not finding it funny so??? I’m assuming its up for interpretation, that being said Mike did deal a harsh blow (why didn’t he just leave it at I hate you I was never your friend? Why tell her no one else was really her friend? ) but when you look at the years of build up it kinda seems like it would happen eventually. So I dunno I don’t find one to be worse or better in this situation (it makes Mike look extremely immature and selfish; Lucy shows unselfish love, and mental anguish). I do think Mike should get some flack back as he went too far but I don’t think anyone should beat him to a pulp.
Samm-y November 11, 2013, 11:17 AM EST.
@Tylord Well said sir. I tip my hat to the eloquence with which you dissected the situation before us. Simply capital. *continues to smoke bubble pipe*
Juerujin November 11, 2013, 11:56 AM EST.
“He only really kept her around because he was using her to get over Sandy, it was really mutually parasitic.”
Regardless, he did rely on her a lot and did do all the aforementioned things I mentioned with her ALL the time. If you personally don’t want to regard it as friendship, that’s fine, but that doesn’t mean they were not friends. Originally he didn’t want to be her friend, but it got to a point where he accepted her and would ask her to hang out with him. No one can force that on a person, free will does exist.
He didn’t have to, it was him honestly enjoying her time and company. Which is what friends do. O.o He also didn’t actively avoid her until after she confessed when he was taken. And she pretty much accepted that too and the two didn’t talk.
Again, refusing to admit that Mike liked her and actively sought out her company as friends or maybe more (with the endless blushy faces between them) you may just want to stop and re-read the comic because you missed a large part of it.
The abuse thing still seems up for interpretation which is why we’ve come to an agreement there. I only remember that one phone convo with Mike bruises and nosebleed. That was when the comic shifted to seeing it as actual abuse, but there were never bruises before.
Lickit&Stickit November 11, 2013, 1:44 PM EST.
I really hate Mike on this page, because he seems to self-centered to see that although he is “right” and Lucy did want him there is one thing he is missing out on… The one that is seeing things clearly is Paulo. If Paulo had not fall on to what David told him about “loosing his touch” and instead of starting messing around with girls again had just realized that it would do no good to Lucy. If Paulo had just stayed beside Lucy, like he intended to do. Lucy would still be with them, she would be happy and she would have been able to move on. Because in December when Mike told her off the only thing she was holding on to was Paulo, if Paulo was not with Jasmine at the moment Mike wouldn’t have been able to break Lucy like he did, because she would still have Paulo and that’s all she needed. Paulo would have picked up the pieces once again, because deep down he cares and Lucy wouldn’t have ended up like she did.
Leaving aside the fact of wether or not Lucy loved Paulo, she did at the very least like him as a friend and looked to him for support. But Mike stripped her of everything and the only reason he was able to do that was because Paulo had his attention on Jasmine, witch made Lucy feel insecure and Mike tricked there. I will point it out, Mike was downright mean during December and it was uncalled for. But I have analyzed this comic a LOT and leaving aside all the tension created by Lucy’s mistakes and Mike’s stupidity I have come to the conclusion that what ultimately sent Lucy spiraling into the abysm was… David.
Here, I’ll explain why step by step:
Lucy finally decided to change and confessed to Mike. —-> Mike was already with Sandy so he rejected Lucy. —-> Lucy was sad and sought comfort in Paulo, her other best friend. —-> Paulo was a responsible guy and took care of Lucy, for once letting go of his perverted teenager side and being nice. —-> Lucy, spending time with Paulo, started to get better, she probably also started to see him in a different light. —-> David stirred Paulo to be a womanizer once again. —-> David is Paulo’s best friend so he listened to him and went back to his womanizer ways. —-> Paulo met Jasmine. —-> Paulo’s messing around was discovered, Lucy got mad. —-> Lucy was alone once again. And started spiraling into the abysm of depression slowly. Still she tried to fix things with Mike. —-> December happened. Mike damaged Lucy’s self steam and made her believe no body liked her, not even Paulo. (Remember he was only able to do this because of Paulo’s earlier behavior triggered by David.) —-> Lucy fell down and down and even tough Paulo tried to help, because of the damage Mike had done he could do nothing.
And you know the rest of the story.
I predict that without David’s intervention it would have been a different story:
Lucy confesses. —-> Mike rejects her. —-> Lucy sought comfort in Paulo. —-> Paulo took care of Lucy. —-> Lucy, spending time with Paulo, started to get better, she probably also started to see him in a different light. —-> Paulo would further develop his feelings for Lucy as he took care of her. (He would not have meet Jasmine or screwed around at all, because he was concentrating on Lucy.) —-> Lucy would get better. She would start to fix her relationship with Mike. —-> December would happen. —-> Mike would not have been able to discredit Paulo’s feelings for Lucy, so Lucy would go running back to Paulo. —-> Paulo would pick up the pieces once again. —-> Lucy would have stayed with Paulo and possibly recover from the December incident. —-> Taeshi would have found another way to give us drama. xD Probably on Mike’s end because he believes Paulo to be nothing but a rebound and such such.
So Mike was mean and Paulo was an idiot for listening to David. But really I blame David. xD
I can also think of pages that may prove my theory.
Vanilla April 3, 2014, 3:19 PM EST.
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