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TheLazyCharmander November 22, 2013, 1:00 PM EST.
And the truth comes out!… Like it wasn’t obvious
Deringading November 22, 2013, 1:00 PM EST.
They’ve been friends longer than they were; but that is just a little statement. While Lucy was just rough around the edges Mike was her only friend when they were younger. That moment when Lucy said they were friends was the the most wonderful part Mike saw in which he could see the kind and gentle sweetheart the she was. I assume/speculate that Mike wanted to try and bring that part of her out more in the open. Considering that it makes me sad that he starts to lose the effort in making her open up more and it is very sad to see that he gave up on her. I think that Lucy needs Mike because he could help Lucy become more of a person who doesn’t feel like an insecure jerkface and become a kind, considerate, and caring person. That must be why she needs him the most quite possibly that he is able to change her into a better person.
Keyblade Dragon November 22, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
sigh aaaaand I’m right back to not liking Daisy again. Bummer
?!? November 22, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
Uh oh. Poor Abbey.
That’s one thing that annoys me like hell. They way Daisy handles her feelings for Mike. There’s nothing wrong with having a crush on someone, but the way she’s been dating Abbey knowing that she has this strong thing for Mike is just terrible. Just like in Pillow Talk, when she’s talking as she sleeps and dreams of Mike giving her a “backrub” - massage or not, that was one of the many signs that she still had very strong feelings about our dear green eyes.
Now you have a bunch of drunk kids locked up in the same party, each one full of issues that they want to share… Except for Abbey. Abbey is completely sober. He will remember that, and wish to discuss it with Daisy later.
This doesn’t sound good at all.
Somewhat November 22, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
very good questions and yet, here we go again Daisy
EvilKitty3 November 22, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
Wow this is going to get awkward
TheGentleman November 22, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
Ooops! Poor Abbey! He doesn’t deserve to hear that.
5Cats November 22, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
I think that she’s just saying things that she thinks Mike wants to hear.
Quill November 22, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
Here it comes ‘-’
Shani96 November 22, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
It’s the chest, Daisy.
Shiloh November 22, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.
Seags November 22, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.
Woo, called it.
On a more serious note, I feel bad for Abbey.
Zott November 22, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.
That’s an interesting question.Isn’t it Mike?
On another note: Daisy, with what you’re doing to Abbey right now, you’re not the most considerate person either.
B-Dawg November 22, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.
JayLime November 22, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.
Oh Daisy… Now the drama is set to begin… And Abbey looks quite calm and even concerned
I hope Daisy is meaning this from a frienship perspective, as in why she wasn’t chosen as Mike’s best friend over the years… But I know she’s meaning more than a friend….
AngryBunny November 22, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.
I think she’s saying that so that Mike will start defending her again
Jonas97face November 22, 2013, 1:03 PM EST.
Someone November 22, 2013, 1:03 PM EST.
@Quill: I agree. That, and she’s returning to her desperate and (more than slightly) selfish self. Now that Mike’s upset she’s swooping in to the “rescue”… Riiiight in front of her boyfriend… Good job, Daisy.
Deringading November 22, 2013, 1:03 PM EST.
@Taeshi Mistake on the border in panel two. A bit of prowhite could fix that. Actually the clone tool in photoshop would work better. U would see the prowhite on the paper, and its in color.
June-pay Eeyorey November 22, 2013, 1:04 PM EST.
Dudeeeee, too soon
And Daisy, that probably wasn’t a good idea with abbey being there…
Pikahu November 22, 2013, 1:04 PM EST.
Friendly reminder that Abbey is still sober.
And out of everyone he’s probably one of the few who will remember what was said.
Gabba November 22, 2013, 1:04 PM EST.
qq some more daisy.
da lean cuisine November 22, 2013, 1:05 PM EST.
Wow, so many people called it last page!
OmegaB November 22, 2013, 1:05 PM EST.
Rii November 22, 2013, 1:05 PM EST.
*sigh* now, here’s where I think the words “Face” and “Palm” are gonna come together at this point. I really am dissatisfied by this outcome Daisy’s making. Still drunk these cats are, excluding Abbey of course. Sad that his girlfriend’s saying all this stuff to a another guy in front of him.
Edit: Looks like Mike is probably gonna backlash at Daisy or something. I don’t know, something like that’s bound to happen at some point IMO.
Twiggy November 22, 2013, 1:06 PM EST.
I doubt if Daisy knows what she is doing.
HongKat November 22, 2013, 1:06 PM EST.
AAAAAAAAAAAAH COME OOOOON WHY
WHYS DIS PAEG ON FRIEDEGG
don'tyouknowmealready? November 22, 2013, 1:06 PM EST.
daISY NO T^T
Laufente November 22, 2013, 1:07 PM EST.
Wow , i feel so sorry for Abbey , daisy what’s wrong with you , other then being drunk.
weirdedoutfox November 22, 2013, 1:07 PM EST.
OH. OHHHH. HOW BOUT THEM APPLES MIKE.
GingerPaws November 22, 2013, 1:07 PM EST.
you know thats gotta hurt when youre not getting ****** off about it, eh abbey?
Whimsicott November 22, 2013, 1:08 PM EST.
Abbey’s face is priceless
Moon November 22, 2013, 1:08 PM EST.
@Taeshi Your timing is impeccable….and by impeccable I mean despicable.
$adiq November 22, 2013, 1:08 PM EST.
Abbey… go grab yourself a drink, since you need it.
Actually he does. He willingly signed for this ****. Daisy never said she give ups on Mike. So yeah, he pretty much had it coming.
Yeah, I’m sure it’s about them being friends, and friendly perspective… yesss…
Also: he doesn’t look calm. Last time I saw that expression his mother was getting murdered.
Commander_Zero November 22, 2013, 1:08 PM EST.
Daisy went puffer-fish in panel one again I love when she does that…..also Abbey I’m sorry for you right now
Tigerclaw32 November 22, 2013, 1:08 PM EST.
I really hope there’s no big freakout on Abbey’s part. Daisy has done her best to be there for him and supportive while he worked through his issues, and she still does so. The inferiority complex she had with respect to Lucy has always been a major one of hers. Honestly, I don’t even think this is about Mike anymore. I think it’s about the fact that she always believed that in some way people thought Lucy was just Better than her, and she never knew how to take it. I could be wrong, but that’s how I see it.
titansCrypt November 22, 2013, 1:08 PM EST.
The most important question ever asked.
Blue fox November 22, 2013, 1:08 PM EST.
**** this ****, he already made it again, this is going to be bad!!!!
This is why i hate mike so much, his guilt is already gone, just for playing the victim.
Chuck U_U November 22, 2013, 1:12 PM EST.
BLACKOUT November 22, 2013, 1:12 PM EST.
Ahh poor Abbey having to watch this go down. Daisy really is important to him and had been helping him cope with his past. I wonder what will come of this?
Ellie November 22, 2013, 1:13 PM EST.
Whelp… Yeah nevermind. It WAS a good direction, but folks come ‘round for even MORE drama!!!!
Herumph November 22, 2013, 1:13 PM EST.
I SWEAR DAISY IF YOU ABANDON ABBEY I WILL GAT A MACHINE GUN AND BLAST MY COMPUTER IN SHEER RAGE
Mariasona November 22, 2013, 1:14 PM EST.
Like a boss. Abbey has more self control then I gave him credit for. Last page was loading slowly so all I saw at the top was a speech bubble with ‘DAISY!’ in it. I was sure abbey lost it but no he’s just sitting there not even mildly upset.
Bunshin November 22, 2013, 1:15 PM EST.
BTW abbey’s a boss!!!!!
Chuck U_U November 22, 2013, 1:16 PM EST.
Somehow I think Abbey will leave this party alone soon enough.
Commander_Zero November 22, 2013, 1:16 PM EST.
Loyalty? Ohhhhhhhhh Snap!
Skyf0x November 22, 2013, 1:16 PM EST.
I think they should all realise that Lucy actually is Dolan. They will then live happily ever after without her. There are a few types of people and Lucy is a Dementor-type who sucks the life and happiness out of everything and makes it all about her own selfish desires. She is young and should dispense with the hopes of getting into Mikes trousers and having his babies.
Maybe then everyone can move on without all the stinkin thinkin and angst over Bipolar Lhacay. Should be blammed for heresy. I like Lucy though she makes everything excellently grimdark and just brings forth the depress fests.
Rowboat Girlyman November 22, 2013, 1:17 PM EST.
MIKE WHY WONT YOU LOVE ME
Fellow bro November 22, 2013, 1:17 PM EST.
I’m still wondering if there’s gonna be a BCB for android
Constable November 22, 2013, 1:17 PM EST.
Oh….shizz…..I can’t answer that question…..this is so awkward.
Kindle_kat November 22, 2013, 1:18 PM EST.
Uuuuuh ouch scorch!
Knux-the-Killer November 22, 2013, 1:18 PM EST.
Well. I saw this coming. Nothing good ever happens with a bunch of drunk people with no filter and one sober person in the same room.
Lizord November 22, 2013, 1:19 PM EST.
Poor Abbey. :c
Anoukk November 22, 2013, 1:19 PM EST.
Gah… Daisy… Really?
Yeah, my comment on the last page, still ringing true with Daisy. She is insanely jealous of Lucy. She said this exact same thing to Paulo during Confrontation, and Paulo said “She’s hot, sue me.” The thing is, that really isn’t what Mike saw in her.
He saw a girl who constantly hung around him and annoyed him at first. It morphed slowly into a girl who competed with him in everything. After they got back together again, he slowly realized that she had nothing really except for him and came to grow to accept that he was the only one who gave her a chance.
After Sandy came into the picture, he completely forgot his rival. Even though Sandy tried to get her to join in, Mike was too focused on Sandy. When Sandy was gone his image of Lucy morphed again. Lucy accepted him back as if nothing happened and went back to the way things were, but she was more guarded, more cold. Mike used her as a substitute for Sandy and took away Lucy’s identity and made her into his fantasy of the girl he lost. It wasn’t till Lucy confronted him about using her as a substitute for Sandy and burst into a fit of pain and tears as she yelled at him that she couldn’t be Sandy that he finally snapped out of it. His image of her changed once again as he began to realize how fragile she was and became a better friend and stopped trying to use her as a substitute and began to like her for who she was.
Not long after that, Lucy began to flower and turned into the violent Lucy that he grew to despise when he took Sandy’s advice too far and instead of saying something to her, just cut her off. His image of her was now one of someone who abused and used him and the sweet girl he once knew was being tarnished by the memories that seemed more prevalent when he focused solely on the bad. He cast aside all of the good sweet memories of the girl he fell for to focus on the one who was always sweet to him. He let his memory shift and change to create her into a monster in his mind to make it easier for him to hate her.
I think Daisy, with her comment, just opened the flood gates for all those sweet memories to come rushing back again, just like they did when he left the hospital. Lucy may have abused him and taken things too far, but she was also very kind, caring, and sweet when she finally let her walls down. There was even a time where Mike said he loved getting punched by Lucy. Back then it wasn’t really serious but as it progressed it changed, as he changed…
I also feel horrible for Abbey, Abbey has been so understanding of her continued affections for Mike and always seems to wait quietly in the background to give her her space and time when it comes to Mike. He knows he can’t replace Mike for her, but he tries his best to be there for her. Honestly Abbey is a lot better of a choice for her because he has really always been there for her since he arrived. When things go bad he is there to comfort her, support her, and encourage her to be the person she wants to be. He lets her control where she wants things to go, and allows her to set her own pace and her rules for how things are. He respects her and tries his best to help her with her self esteem issues. She should really stop taking that for granted, or she will lose him.
I am pretty sure this is eating Abbey up inside but he probably won’t confront her about it or ask her more about it until later when they are both sober and have some privacy… Poor Abbey.
GracefulSerenity November 22, 2013, 1:20 PM EST.
daisy do you see that brown kitty sitting over there
(whispers it’s your boyfriend)
Landy November 22, 2013, 1:20 PM EST.
I don’t think Daisy is in the wrong for asking. She really liked Mike for YEARS and put a lot of effort into woeing him and attracting but always turned her down due to Lucy, but he says how he hates Lucy so much it just doesnt make sense why he kept turning Daisy down. She deserves a good reason why anything she did wasn’t good enough. : /
I can even imagin Mike giving a dumb *** answer and Abbey telling him he’s wrong/get angry at him.
TheCreatrix November 22, 2013, 1:20 PM EST.
dear god folks, jump to a conclusion why don’t ya. Again daisy has said nothing definitive. Like can also mean “as a friend”, now if she said “why’d you even love her, what made her better than me?” i’d get it. But she could just mean “why were you friendlier to her than me”.
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 1:20 PM EST.
Come to think of it, this is starting to look like a set up to bring Augustus and his group back.
Mike’s not going to accept Daisy. He’ll reject her again. And Abbey’s going to be devastated, so I doubt she’ll have luck there. She’s still clearly very dependent, so she’s probably going to be looking for somebody. Unless she goes for Paulo, which I highly doubt, because he’s having enough problems of his own, she’s going to wind up with Augustus.
And let’s face it, wouldn’t it be so perfectly ironic for Alejandro to spring that “revenge plan” he was talking about just as everybody abandons/forgives Mike?
Zott November 22, 2013, 1:22 PM EST.
Abbey’s just like,
I thought you were over him…. You wanted to screw but you just were trying to replace him with me……….guess I was wrong to be jealous of Paulo.
Yeah…we know Abbey is the jealous over-protective type. I feel sad for him right now…. @Gracefulserenity said it perfectly
Silveryogurt November 22, 2013, 1:26 PM EST.
Siiigh. I actually don’t have much of a side on the basic Mike/Lucy mistake. Both made mistakes, and both massively hurt the other. What I didn’t like was how Mike ending up dealing with his feelings, and the reason I was miffed at this scene initially is because of all the blameshifting he does. It’s an understandable response for a kid to have, but it’s not a good one.
To clarify, I do think Lucy was abusive towards Mike, but I don’t think she was intentionally abusive. Mike never really reacted to it in front of her, and as a kid, it’s really easy to assume that means the other person doesn’t mind/care. It’s only when you mature and start to think of other people more that you can put yourself in their shoes and realize it was bad. I’m not blaming Mike for deciding to break off ties with her, but the way he went about it was incredibly immature and spiteful, and that’s where the blame on him comes in. I don’t hate him, but I don’t think /he/ can heal until he stops shifting the blame and starts owning up to everything, good and bad.
Moving onto the Daisy thing here… I think part of this can be mitigated by the fact that she’s drunk and therefore can’t really judgement well. But that doesn’t mean that this isn’t going to do more harm than good, and she and Abbey are going to have to have a long talk. She and Abbey are good together, and good for each other, but they’ve got a couple of issues to work out if they want to work long-term.
I do hope Mike doesn’t end up blowing up at Daisy and lashing out. He’s been doing that a lot lately, and the more he does it, the more he uses up my sympathy for him.
Sorry for the wall of text, I just wanted to get all my opinions out here, haha.
Petra November 22, 2013, 1:27 PM EST.
Honestly, I think alejandro is a lost story arc. Taeshi’s really done nothing in a looooong time to continue that arc or hint at the presence of their group. I think she’s abandoned that subplot because Mike made for a better antagonistic focus. When Alejandro and that arc were added it seems there really was a real need for a villain to create tension and drama. However he kind of got overshadowed and thrown to the wayside by all the Mike and Lucy drama. Also from audience perspective Mike kind of became a more natural villain for the commenters :p
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 1:27 PM EST.
@GracefulSerenity “There was even a time when Mike said he loved being punched by Lucy.” Please, PLEASE acknowledge that this is an extremely ****ed up thing and not a good thing. Please. I can’t explain it but I need some sort of reassurance that at least some people actually think that this was an extremely unhealthy aspect of their relationship
titansCrypt November 22, 2013, 1:27 PM EST.
I feel like something like this was discussed before, but never really got around to answering the question. It’s Deja Vu all over.
Dudeler November 22, 2013, 1:29 PM EST.
Yes, I fully accept that it was not acceptable that she was hurting him. But that little tidbit is a very clear sign that back then, Mike didn’t think anything of it. That back then when they would play fight, that was all it was to him. And as I also mentioned, his view of this changed as he changed. He came to see that it was unhealthy and that is a good thing. But it also shows that he, like the others, didn’t see it as a bad thing, just playful for a long time.
GracefulSerenity November 22, 2013, 1:31 PM EST.
DAISY. Anyways cue the breakup of the group?
Todd November 22, 2013, 1:32 PM EST.
You know, that’s pretty darn offensive towards bipolar people, using it as an insult like that. I think you’ve got a point about Lucy being a very difficult person to be around and a catalyst/cause for a lot of the drama, but you’re being way too harsh. Whatever else she is, she’s also pretty young and obviously has some issues.
Besides, I never read her as trying to get Mike to break up with Sandy, more getting her feelings out there so she didn’t have to keep swallowing them. You can talk about your more-than-platonic feelings with a friend - whom she thought of Mike as at the time - without expecting them to drop everything and go off with you into the sunset. She also seemed pretty supportive of Mike dating Sandy near the end, realizing and stating that Sandy make Mike happier than Lucy could. I feel like that was a pretty mature move!
Petra November 22, 2013, 1:33 PM EST.
From, Toasting to Lucy
To Wishing Lucy was still around
To Arguing over Who Lucy liked more
To Spilling the truth about what mike did to Lucy
To Raging about how could he Do that to Lucy
To Claiming to be treated Worse than Lucy by Friends
To Painting Lucy as the A**hole
To Questioning Why do we even like Lucy in the first place.
@Taeshi, I see what you’re doin here.
V1A2 November 22, 2013, 1:33 PM EST.
Abbey is in the room
Daisy pls stahp
asdf November 22, 2013, 1:34 PM EST.
Kind of wish we WOULD get back into that—
But that’s just me. @3@
Onto another note:
All my assumptions and reassurances of Daisy only trying to be a good friend and it not being crush-related have just flown out the window at mach speed.
There is no better way to take what she just said, especially not with the way Abbey is looking in the background and how suddenly Paulo looks a little nervous.
And of course there is Mike, sweating bullets (not literally sweating but he’s doing some HARD thinking right now) from the situation at hand. I can’t tell what he’s thinking or feeling right now. It’s simply baffling. o 3o
You have said it very eloquently. I love it.
Yaschiri November 22, 2013, 1:35 PM EST.
“But that little tidbit is a very clear sign that back then, Mike didn’t think anything of it” or a sign of mental instability or even delusion. People don’t like being hit, well some do, but I think Mike is to young to know or have explored masochism.
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 1:37 PM EST.
@GracefulSerenity Thank you. I kinda needed that.
titansCrypt November 22, 2013, 1:39 PM EST.
“People don’t like being hit, well some do, but I think Mike is to young to know or have explored masochism.”
I think the point in time they’re talking about is when the hitting was more slap-stick and not more serious as it begun to be in later chapters.
Yaschiri November 22, 2013, 1:39 PM EST.
To be fair, kids - usually when they’re boys - tend to be encouraged to roughhouse in ways that would be inappropriate as adults. To be double-fair, Lucy ended up taking ‘friendly roughhousing’ way too far, back when she started causing Mike to limp because she kicked him so hard, and ended up causing him to blame himself for her hitting him. That’s a very abusive vibe, and while I think Lucy was more clueless than malicious, it does show that she was self-centered to an unhealthy degree back then. That’s why I don’t blame Mike for wanting to break things off with her, but do blame him for how he went about it. None of this is black and white.
Petra November 22, 2013, 1:40 PM EST.
I don’t know, there’s lots of room for interesting, off-beat stories along that line. Even if it wasn’t Alejandro getting back at Mike, any major Augustus-based arc could easily feature him as a side-antagonist.
Zott November 22, 2013, 1:41 PM EST.
It’s one thing to be insecure about yourself, but its another when you’re insecure, rude, and selfish. Daisy was always my least favorite character. For some reason, I viewed her kindness as a facade to what’s really going on in her head. She’s a fake - always bitter about something or someone. I really hope Abbey dumps her butt after Mike blurts out that they’ll never ever have a relationship because of how she is. Lucy may have been a physically abusive individual, but at least she didn’t manipulate others for her own security.
Pinki November 22, 2013, 1:42 PM EST.
yeah but it was brought up and since this is post December we have to explore whether or not there is an alternate take to this. Lines like that are honestly what led me to my delusion theory. That the reason mike acted fine with it back in the slapstick section is because he was in a state of delusion. That line that was pointed out here is kind of the corner stone of that argument, what sane person says that.
I agree, but the thing is that alejandro really is just your generic bad guy. Mike actually makes for a better antagonistic focus because of the fact that the best bad guys are the ones you can pity a bit. The ones you can kind of see what lead them to do wrong. Alejandro is more the take candy from babies, popping balloons type of villain. I could see maybe one or two more arcs to explain what happened to them, like did they get thrown in jail and that’s why we haven’t seen them or something like that. But beyond that I really don’t see a good point in trying to bring back a faux antagonist when you already have a great one.
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 1:42 PM EST.
@Petra I like you. I hope people give you cookies out of generosity. Honestly, more people need to do that.
titansCrypt November 22, 2013, 1:42 PM EST.
Uhhm, Daisy? You’re kinda taken, remember? I don’t think Abbey will be happy about you confessing your feelings for Mike WHILE you’re dating him.
Alex Sigma November 22, 2013, 1:44 PM EST.
“That line that was pointed out here is kind of the corner stone of that argument, what sane person says that.”
I don’t think it was meant to be taken seriously, though, that’s the thing. @_@ The comic wasn’t at that stage yet, it was still really young.
I’m not saying Lucy was in the right, but y’know that part of the story at least wasn’t meant to be serious. After their vaca with Tess though the vibe started to change and I think that’s when Tae started to really try and emphasize that was where it was really going wrong for the both of them.
That’s just the feeling I get. @.@
Yaschiri November 22, 2013, 1:44 PM EST.
Thank you! I’m just trying to look at all sides of this stuff. Nobody here is a perfect angel, and that’s okay.
Petra November 22, 2013, 1:45 PM EST.
He wasn’t delusional. He was drunk off of liqueur candies, which is similar but not quite the same. He also spent most of that night trying to cuddle with Lucy once all the fighting was over. But it does illustrate the fact that back during that slap-stick phase, it was to be seen as playful rough-housing. We were never shown where Mike was beaten to the point of broken bones or limping. (Expect when Paulo got the cheater brigade to beat him up.) They fought and he fought back, it was the rough-housing people associate with kids. As they got older though, it got more serious and then we came to see it wasn’t all fun and games anymore. It was an element that slowly went from comedy, to tragedy.
Sorry if I alarmed you dear. As someone who used to be a lot like Lucy in the sense that I didn’t express myself and was pretty violent and would rough-house with my friends, I feel I might be a bit biased. Back then I didn’t see it as anything bad, just a part of being one of the guys. Later on in life I realized how horrible it was and decided to change, very much like Lucy did. I switched schools and decided that would be my catalyst for change. My friends from back then could hardly believe I was no longer the violent person they once knew and had finally opened up to being a nicer person. But they, and I are much happier for the change. So I do, very much see, that there is damaging and unhealthy aspects of the rough-housing and when it goes too far. But I hope that Lucy, like me, is able to grow, change, and can show the true her without fear so much later in this story.
GracefulSerenity November 22, 2013, 1:47 PM EST.
I think she is just fishing for him to start defending Lucy…tho she probably means what she is saying
Mego November 22, 2013, 1:48 PM EST.
Not really, now this has kind of got tossed around with Taeshi saying the real repercussions thing has been going on for a loooong time now (before December). I personally don’t see it as any time things got semi-real it quickly got brushed back to cartoon rules of reality. Anyhow, December kind of played a role to make past chapters (all of them) take on a different meaning. So that’s, again, why I developed the delusion theory to match up with the retcon in explaining the question EVERYONE asked “why was Mike okay with it?”. That’s why he didn’t have an issue with Lucy beating on him, it also explains the 180 he takes when Sandy starts his intervention. The veil of delusion was lifting and the past made him angry (I don’t know maybe he felt like a tool).
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 1:53 PM EST.
NOOO DAISY STAHP OMG
gudfsfs November 22, 2013, 1:53 PM EST.
Agreed, he probably won’t return in a significant way. But if this whole situation results in a Daisy/Augustus arc, and I think it will, I wouldn’t be surprised if he got a mention or even a part. Probably a short, “wrap it up in a nice little package” type of part, but still.
Zott November 22, 2013, 1:58 PM EST.
Because Mike could see her potential to be an amazing, caring person on all fronts, and perhaps hoped that, over time, she’d come to see it too and soften up.
Unfortunately, that never really happened. The damage had been done.
etyb November 22, 2013, 1:59 PM EST.
Don’t go there Daisy, just leave it be.
starfighter105 November 22, 2013, 2:00 PM EST.
SOOOO GOOD!!!!! I CAN’T WAIT TILL MONDAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!
seriously, it’s gonna be a crucial page to understand what mike really thinks.
unless taeshi finds some way to interrupt the whole thing….. I would hate that. nah, she can’t be that cruel, lol.
if you have a girl that you like (love), you like every form of contact with her, even relatively-harmless punches. but not when they leave bruises, of course.
I would love taking a friendly punch from the girl I like, since I’m too dumb to try to do anything serious with her, right now >_>
and, apart from when my parents did, I never got hit without hitting back in kind (so, friendly with friendly and hostile with hostile) in my life, so don’t start saying I’m delusional or masochist.
boh... November 22, 2013, 2:02 PM EST.
Heh, of course, this is the girl version of the friend zone. “I’m friends with this really hot boy who is totally awesome but he only ever sees me as a friend and dates jerks D< WHY DOESN’T HE NOTICE HE WOULD BE HAPPY WITH ME”
No one is obligated to date you or even give you a chance at romance just because you’re nice to them.
Titanium Dragon November 22, 2013, 2:03 PM EST.
I said we probably won’t see alejandro, I didn’t say anything about Augustus (how do we pronounce that name anyways, like the month or the german way “ahh-gooo-stus”). Another point to how friggin’ generic a villain Alejandro was. Augustus has stepped out as a pretty good possible antagonist or even a possible anti-hero. His character has been, for quite a while, been tearing away from the Alejandro arc. Hell he’s pretty much his own character at this point more closely attached to Lucy and Daisy than to Alejandro. I don’t see him going away any time soon.
“if you have a girl that you like (love), you like every form of contact with her, even relatively-harmless punches” been there done that, verbally kicked her butt to the curb after an accident as a result of her “harmless” hitting had me going to get 7 stitches in my lower leg for.
Also @the audience,
Seriously, where is this theory coming from. If she said it in a tone of “I want to jump your bone mikie” Don’t you think abbey would have stepped up and said something? He’s not, he’s pretty calm and is just listening, so her tone and the way she said “like” probably has a closer implication of friendship. You can “like” someone as a friend folks.
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 2:04 PM EST.
Why are all these characters so UNLIKABLE?
asdf November 22, 2013, 2:04 PM EST.
Man Daisy, you try-hard. Just a little bit of a *****, eh?
Poor Abbey. Used and abused.
IDGAF November 22, 2013, 2:06 PM EST.
What the heck Daisy?! Hopefully she’s just saying that because she’s tipsy, otherwise I don’t really like her anymore. It’s like that one person that pretends to like you and then she talks behind your back
Aprilkitty November 22, 2013, 2:09 PM EST.
right in front of abbey, daisy? really? never go out with a boy if your not over another. abbey needs someone like jazmine
kiki November 22, 2013, 2:09 PM EST.
you do realize it wasn’t harmless in your case? lol
edit: you are right about abbey’s face, but what about paulo’s? it looks like “****, daisy isn’t thinking before speaking.”.
boh... November 22, 2013, 2:11 PM EST.
@boh… The problem with Lucy’s actions were that A) she didn’t know how to hold back B) Mike had no objections when he was actually being hurt. Mike was too fixated on Lucy’s positive traits to be able to acknowledge the negatives. The reverse is true now, and it creates a relationship that is exactly as unhealthy as their earlier one, just in a different way.
titansCrypt November 22, 2013, 2:12 PM EST.
randomness: anyone notice how brighter green mikes eyes has been looking these past few chapters?
kiki November 22, 2013, 2:13 PM EST.
(Oooooooooh… there we go… Now let’s reverse this… if you couldn’t stand her, why’d you always get closer, and closer, and closer to her Mike? Why’d you seek her out? … … Bet he’s going to say it’s someone else’s fault.
And Daisy… yeah, right in front of Abbey… … … People don’t make good decisions when they’re drunk…)
Allsmiles November 22, 2013, 2:14 PM EST.
“how do we pronounce that name anyways, like the month or the german way “ahh-gooo-stus””
No. You pronounce it: “Goddamn-Wannabe-Rapist-That-Should-Be-Castrated- With-A-Wodden-Spoon-That-Was-Shoved-Up-Alpacas- ***-Before-The-Procedure”.
And seriously, your girl accidently hurt and you “verbally kicked her”? What the hell, dude. My girlfriend kicked me literally right in the balls three years ago, and I ended up kneeling for few minutes. It was intended as a joke, but she put to much force and wearing heavy booths didn’t helped either. My reaction? “No big deal honey…”, though it didn’t sound very clear, since I was seeing gates of heaven and angels dancing roomba, at the moment
Edit: Even though you had something that seems “near death experience” I had a “near-not-being-a-man-anymore-experience”. I do believe it’s far more harmful.
Abbey seems to be another Jazmine. Sad but true. And I really can’t understand why people consider him calm. He looks like he just saw eternity, and didn’t liked it even one bit.
Commander_Zero November 22, 2013, 2:16 PM EST.
You misinterpreted Boh, Her harmless hitting caused me to fall over a railing, down a hill, and ended up gashing my leg on a rock. Not that she grabbed a knife or something like that and stabbed me.
Also, Paulo still has the same face he had on the last page when “little sister” kicked him in the metaphorical nuts.
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 2:18 PM EST.
sure sure, I’m not saying the hurting was harmless. only that I think that mike actually liked it (as it still was rough-housing back then) when he said so.
I think there are some parts in which he makes a joke about her and then has a big X D on his face while lucy punches him right there (on the face, lol).
(“D:”s come out so bad with this font…)
lol his wound was way more serious than a kick in the balls, man!
boh... November 22, 2013, 2:18 PM EST.
Sorry Paulo, and Abbey, your just contestants on the Mike show, sometimes you win a girlfriend, sometimes (usually) you lose one
Misanthrope November 22, 2013, 2:23 PM EST.
@ etyb that’s what I see. So what if she was a little tsundere bicth. She was a loving person on the inside. I guess she was just to much women for mike to handle.
Blue fox November 22, 2013, 2:24 PM EST.
I was 10 dude, it ****** me off and hurt like hell. Plus my aunt had a part to play in my situation, when she found out what had happened and how long this girl had been doing that she basically told me, more or less, the equivalent of what Sandy said to Mike. That if she was my friend she wouldn’t be doing stuff like that.
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 2:24 PM EST.
I’ve been going with “Aw-guhs-tus”, as in the Caesar.
I find it hard to imagine Augustus returning to the spotlight without Alejandro poking his nose in for a little while. I mean, if Augustus becomes a major character again, there’s going to have to be a story where he gets his life together at one stage, and Alejandro will have to play a part in that.
But anyway, this isn’t really what the comment section is for.
Zott November 22, 2013, 2:26 PM EST.
“lol his wound was way more serious than a kick in the balls, man!”
I was talking about possible consequences. What would you preffer: messed up leg, or squashed balls? I think we both (and every other male commenter know the right answer when “neither of that” is not an option).
You were ten and verbally kicking girls? No wonder you act like this in Mike’s case! I’m no angel myself, since I was calling girls in the class names, and was quite a jerk to them, but duuude, that’s messed up.
Commander_Zero November 22, 2013, 2:29 PM EST.
Uhhhh, yeah it is. We’re talking about the comic and the characters within as well as possibilities for future arcs. That’s on topic, going off topic would be like what we did last Friday, talking about karma, the universe and stuff like that. You know, stuff that’s completely unrelated to the comic.
EDIT: No worries, I kind of figured you were either new or misinterpreted the “stay on topic” rule.
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 2:31 PM EST.
I feel Abbey would be doing something right now but he knows Daisy is drunk… Ugh poor Abbey he don’t deserve this ****
Dragnite November 22, 2013, 2:33 PM EST.
wow…i hope no one else has anything mean to say about lucy and it ends up they never really cared bout her
Jaime November 22, 2013, 2:33 PM EST.
Ah, well. Forgive me, I’m new here.
Zott November 22, 2013, 2:35 PM EST.
DAISY!! LISTEN! Remember confrontation? Come on, remember. When Lucy was using all those unoriginal attacks on those thugs? When All YOU did was shout “Lucy!” while Lucy got cut up? When Paulo quivered in fear? (Due to his phobia.) When Mike came to his senses and totally kicked ***? Lucy was a jerk sometimes, Mike was a jerk sometimes. But on the inside, they were great friends. However, they really didn’t handle the situation well, on both sides.
Daisy, have you ever stood up for anyone? You’re a good person, (very smart too) but you need to get a grip of yourself! You need to be brave! Be strong, and except it! If you truly love Mike, like Lucy did, then you will let him be happy. If he is happy with Sandy, then let him go, encourage him!
Even Abbey realized that when he saw you loved Mike. He was willing to let you be with whoever would make you happy.
(BTW: Who will speak first Paulo or Abbey? I vote impulsive Paulo.)
Ammonite November 22, 2013, 2:35 PM EST.
I think Daisy is talking more about the past here, because we can’t deny that she did once like Mike romantically, even if there are doubts whether or not she still does. Therefore, why didn’t Mike choose Daisy as a romantic interest over Lucy, or why did Mike have a closer relationship with Lucy than he did with Daisy?
I’m sure Abbey’s aware that Daisy has had a crush on Mike before, which is why he’s not utterly horrified, but it must still be uncomfortable seeing your drunk girlfriend hugging her old crush and asking him why he liked another girl better than her.
Hullabaloo November 22, 2013, 2:41 PM EST.
OMG! How do you read my thoughts?
Ammonite November 22, 2013, 2:42 PM EST.
“No worries, I kind of figured you were either new or misinterpreted the “stay on topic” rule.”
Said rule interpretation pretty much depends of admins mood. Since as far I remember they tried to turn whole comment section into “one sentence per person” back then.
I think Mike will speak first, and he might not be polite. Still, I’m a terrible person, since I would really enjoy him verbally assaulting Daisy at this point.
Oh I forgot that being drunk takes responsibility off peoples back. Well no, it doesn’t.
Commander_Zero November 22, 2013, 2:43 PM EST.
guys she’s DRUNK
Luist November 22, 2013, 2:45 PM EST.
Abbey is able to keep cool that’s good. I doubt I would have been able to. Then again i am the type who spoils the one he loves, but is very possessive. He still looks kinda crushed at the fact she would ask her old crush why he never liked her
1wolfblade November 22, 2013, 2:46 PM EST.
I think that more had to do with space conservation, Zero. We were blowing up the comments with huge *** comments and ended with a novels worth of back and forths (1000 “pages” worth since each comment was about a page in length). That’s probably why they wanted only a sentence per person so people could keep arguing but not eat up a lot of space to keep the comments up.
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 2:48 PM EST.
I do believe they also didn’t like how we caused shitstorms, since you must admit: some of our comments resaulted in even more heated debates, even some flame. (I can’t quite remember, but I’m pretty sure you ****** Thanatos few times yourself, Boh… did it for sure at least once.
Well I didn’t lost my mojo back then, only a nickname, which wasn’t very fitting anyway, so it’s awwwright. I would hate to go through all that **** necessary to get my mojo back.
NO HE’S NOT. Just look at this eyes. My girlfriends cat looked like that when veterinarian picked up a thermometer
Commander_Zero November 22, 2013, 2:52 PM EST.
LAG LAG LAG LAG LAG!!
Mr-Hero-Bio November 22, 2013, 2:53 PM EST.
Who the hell cares!
Mr-Hero-Bio November 22, 2013, 2:55 PM EST.
Hurr, durr, I can count to potato
Mr-Hero-Bio November 22, 2013, 2:57 PM EST.
I think the bowl has been all but smashed now, but Taeshi’s no fool. She made sure it was plastic, so the only way it could be destroyed is if there was a mass murder of all characters. Just imagine if Lucy was there right now. So, I guess it’s goodbye to the only stable shipping in the story, unless Mike’s long-distance relationship is actually working out.
What will Abbey do? One: He could stay there, in shock, as Happy Hour becomes more, and more of a misnomer. Two: Abbey, becomes beside himself in anger, and leaves the room. Three: He doesn’t get a chance to do anything because of a police raid. That last one’s a stretch, I admit.
Now, I have three questions:
1st, where’s everyone else who went to the party? They were cool.
2nd, when will someone interrupt?
3rd and most importantly, WHERE IS THE CAKE???
I’m pretty sure that every character reader here has asked, “Will it ever be the same again?” My answer to you is a big, fat, Donna-assisted…
Hawz November 22, 2013, 3:01 PM EST.
The flames of hate burn hotter with each passing panel, something tells me a certain someone may show up suddenly.
Anon-Anon November 22, 2013, 3:02 PM EST.
poor abbey. although i never really liked him i always thought that he would have almost been the ideal boyfriend. i mean…he’s CARING and nice…..why daisy why?
Loveableme November 22, 2013, 3:02 PM EST.
Well, It seems concision is the key here to me as we’ve been up to the same ole’ **** as back then (especially thanatos) but they aren’t lighting us up. They only occasionally get on our case about going off topic talking about clearly unrelated topics.
Also your girlfriend’s a cat and you’re calling me messed up man.
(yeah I see you corrected that, i’m leaving that because that **** was too funny not to clown on you about. Blame my **** connection.)
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 3:04 PM EST.
My girlfriend’s cat. Funny thing, since his a Maine Coon, so having a piece of glass shoved up his *** shoulnd’t be as traumatic as for other cats.
And stop dissing Thanatos. he’s great source of entertainment… I mean knowledge, of course
Because he’s not Mike, duh?
Abbey probably won’t do anything. He had a nice flashback episode, brought some drama, but in the end as a character he’s rather bland. So I think he’ll be tossed aside and make room for rape-cat soon enough.
Commander_Zero November 22, 2013, 3:09 PM EST.
whooooaaa, TMI man. I really don’t want to know that a type of cat can (supposedly) take it up the *** easier than others.
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 3:12 PM EST.
That’s common knowledge. Regular cats weight like 1-3 kilograms, while Maine Coons can weight up to 11 kilograms. More flesh = bigger ***. I would really like this breed implemented in BCB. It would turn into Furry Attack on Titan.
I could share more fun facts about this breed, since my girlfriend has few beasts like that roaming around the house, but I don’t want to end up bashed with banhammer again.
But just to make sure everyones grossed out enough: did you know that cat’s puke is a delicacy for dogs?
Commander_Zero November 22, 2013, 3:17 PM EST.
@Petra : Its funny, I was just thinking of bringing up the fact that Lucy was always a little bit more of a ‘roughhousing tomboy type’ and, while still not a healthy attribute, others accepted it a bit more easily due to her ‘violent’ actions, malicious or not.
Also… not sure how common the name Petra is… do you know anyone named Angela?
WeissFox November 22, 2013, 3:18 PM EST.
Huh, wonder if that’s why Rachel has the hots for Paulo and why she had no problem getting him drunk.
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 3:21 PM EST.
man i luv this abbey my least fav charecter
JAMES FRANCO November 22, 2013, 3:23 PM EST.
Oh, Daisy, you little lightweight…
Seriously, though, drunk or not, that is not something you say, Daisy. I can understand why you wonder, sure, but does it really matter when you’ve got a great guy who, by the way, is madly in love with you and practically “saved you” from Augustus’ hidden motives, when Mike got angry and left you all sad? I have to admit that I do get your wonder, but what I don’t get is why you could potentially throw something really good away by doing what you’re doing just now.
Look at me getting all worked up because of fictional cats. Gee.
Strawberryblossom November 22, 2013, 3:25 PM EST.
But I thought Lucy was punching everybody and insulting them in a kidding way.Sort of like the first pages of the comic,everyone was doing it for laughs and kidding around.Why did they have to get offended? I thought Lucy was doing it to mess around.
Speed of sound November 22, 2013, 3:30 PM EST.
She had him before she went sour
Well done Daisy -rolls eyes-
Eko November 22, 2013, 3:30 PM EST.
He saw the potential, but over time the pain her abuse caused him was too great. I imagine his mindset could be boiled down to, “How could someone who claimed to love me hurt me so much?”. Being insecure isn’t much of an excuse, frankly.
etyb November 22, 2013, 3:31 PM EST.
So apparently Lucy is a terrible person now? Mike’s throws a BS pity-party about how it’s apparently doesn’t matter that you have a stable family, or that you have a steady long-distance relationship, or that your friends still talk to you at this point … someone lets you know that it’s a dick move to treat someone who’s emotionally unstable like horse ****, and your life is instantly terrible? How do you think they should react? Turn a 360 and get you some hot cocoa and marshmallows?
P.S. Way to be A+ girlfriend Daisy… I feel really sorry for Abbey at this point. He’s not a “cool kid” and he’s made his fair share of mistakes, but he’s not drunk and he hasn’t made a COMPLETE fool of himself yet. That says something in this comic.
Chinatsu November 22, 2013, 3:33 PM EST.
no worries abbey, not everyone in your life leaves you! you still have your moth- oh… well at least your father never hi- oh… at least your girlfriend is not using you as a repl-oh…
Whistleblower November 22, 2013, 3:36 PM EST.
I’m absolutely loving how the opinion of Daisy has shifted just because she’s supporting Mike. Dear god people, is your hate that bad that you have to demonize anyone who says anything supportive to him or counter to your beliefs on Lucy? Here’s what I’ve seen “hey I like daisy/ i’m neutral to her/ don’t support him he’s a douche” (daisy says what she thought of Lucy) “OH MY GOD SHE’S HORRIBLE, SHE’S A CHEATER, RAAAAAAAAGE”.
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 3:37 PM EST.
Oh, Abbey. Something in the way his eyes look tell me he’s going to feel devastated in a minute or so… especially considering (as many people have stated) he’s the only one still sober. What makes me even sadder is that the way she’s holding Mike right now is a tad too similar to how she held Abbey on page 44 of “At Loose Ends” (as well as the subsequent page while they’re in the car).
Personally, I’m hoping that Mike will say something in Lucy’s defense. Maybe similar to his flashbacks in Breaking Up (pages 22-26).
I know Daisy is drunk but she is crossing lines that absolutely do not need to be crossed. Frankly, I can understand her position (though I am ashamed to say so) but Mike’s rejection of her (AND Lucy) was final and she found a happy relationship with Abbey. Furthermore, she doesn’t sound like a very loyal friend if she was willing to flip sides that quickly and immediately agree that Lucy was a bad person, and it’s depressing to think that Mike may have been right about Daisy trailing after him, should he have left the table.
J November 22, 2013, 3:39 PM EST.
Noooo! Daisy! Don’t ruin Abby
Iti November 22, 2013, 3:40 PM EST.
Ha, told ya! She is too drunk to notice she is Abbey’s girlfriend. Poor Abbey, cause she does say ‘Why didn’t you love me?’
I hope Abbey didn’t drink….
Selef November 22, 2013, 3:43 PM EST.
It’s not easy being as perfect as everyone thinks you are. Mike does his best to be the best he can be, but it’s not easy and he really isn’t given much credit for it.
It’s clear Lucy had a bunch of insecurities about herself, but that’s not much an excuse to beat your friends up over nearly anything. She was a lousy friend…which is a real shame because she has the potential to be so much more, but can’t or doesn’t see it.
About Daisy, she’s doing the right thing. Regardless of her being “taken”, she’s always cared for him as a good friend.
etyb November 22, 2013, 3:43 PM EST.
All the other people at the party must be like “These ****ing kids man.”
Fates November 22, 2013, 3:51 PM EST.
Daisy, there isn’t a middle finger big enough for you. Seriously, you are one shallow-two timing-bitch, Abbey these are red flags mate, drop this bimbo and let her eat dust or you’ll be regretting it for the rest of your life.
Kanashe November 22, 2013, 3:52 PM EST.
^ case in point.
Nah, probably closer to “what a bunch of lightweights”
buchanen_neket November 22, 2013, 3:52 PM EST.
Akward moment of the party. I feel sad for abbey, he doest deserve to listen to that
eagle November 22, 2013, 4:04 PM EST.
Daisy this Daisy that Daisy stfu
Midstrike November 22, 2013, 4:05 PM EST.
I feel really bad for Abbey. Daisy you can’t keep doing this. You haven’t even seemed to acknowledge his existence since Mike confessed.
And does anyone else suspect that if Abbey were drunk he would be an angry drunk?
stealthy toast November 22, 2013, 4:06 PM EST.
Oi, why can’t you profess your undying love for Mike while your boyfriend ISN’T watching, Daisy?
Carindel Girl November 22, 2013, 4:06 PM EST.
I guess Abbey wasn’t really drunk after all
BlueBerry November 22, 2013, 4:07 PM EST.
Daisy yes…. This is the exact page i was hoping for! This will cause Mike to think carefully about why he liked Lucy so much. Let’s get ready for more tears everybody
Sty November 22, 2013, 4:13 PM EST.
I think Abbey’s expression is kind of one of horror…. He looks like he’s been floored by what he just saw, and is too scared/speechless to believe what he is seeing. And probably hesitating because he wants to see how far Daisy will take it, perhaps he still has a hope that she is gonna turn the conversation back around to something like “but I have Abbey now,” etc.
Poor fella :C
&&Paulo looks suspicious, like “Daisy wouldn’t…….would she??!” Or maybe he’s just getting more angry with Mike for treating people close to him badly. He knew Mike was ignoring Daisy, but never really cared bc of his feelings for her….. In his drunkennstate though, he might blame Mike. I feel like Paulo will try to get Daisy offa Mike, and Abbey will yell at Paulo, and it could turn into a big fight. And Mike has beer spilled all down his shirt, there’s almost no way these guys aren’t gonna get in some sort of actual trouble.
Or I could be totally wrong about Paulo and he is just gonna yell at them for ruining Rachel’s party or somethin’.
Silveryogurt November 22, 2013, 4:17 PM EST.
notice Mikey is not saying A WORD…..
Hmm…(Neither is Abbey for that matter.)
But I imagine not everyone in the group is going to take her last line in the plutonic sense. And in her tipsy state, i imagine she wont either.
You really know how to stir the pot Taeshi! I wouldn’t put a stolen kiss past Daisy now, and that will make things really horrible!
How are you gonna unravel this ball of knots? (seeing as its all good and tangled!) Or was that your devious plan all along? MUAHAHAHAHAaack-cough-cough…
Meridian November 22, 2013, 4:18 PM EST.
Thank god Abby and daisy didn’t have sex, you realize how much more of a stab that would of been to him??
But seriously, Really Daisy, Switching sides in a snap because you want to kiss his TAKEN ***? wtf is her deal with Sandy anyway, So she moved, So she got new friends. So did you.
Daisy is a Falt Mess, Someone shut her up please.
Eko November 22, 2013, 4:20 PM EST.
What are you doing?
7 November 22, 2013, 4:24 PM EST.
Also, I hope someday we’ll see whats really going on with that goth loner cat, Augustus. We never get his 2 cents enough, and I feel like he’s got layers.
Meridian November 22, 2013, 4:24 PM EST.
Poor Abby is gonna be the only one who will really remember clearly the druken conversation while the others are dying of their first hangovers.
Caitlynn Moss November 22, 2013, 4:28 PM EST.
This should be a reality show! I can see it…NOOOooooowww…..
(Fade to intro)
“This is the story of 6 cats
Picked to drink at a doghouse
to find out what happens when ******* stop being polite
and start acting like D*bleeeeeeeeeep*”
Meridian November 22, 2013, 4:34 PM EST.
Damn. Kind of got blind-sided by that. I didn’t expect Daisy to spill anything
Tealjoy November 22, 2013, 4:35 PM EST.
oh my god, oh my god!! Daisyyyyyy Of all the times you could have picked to be tactless………. oh my goooooooooooooodddddddddddddddddd please someone shut her up before she says somthing she might regret!
Flying Potato November 22, 2013, 4:45 PM EST.
@ etyb Lucy did get carried away with her violence but mike never stayed calm and sat that bitch down and made it clear that it’s not cool to be so rough. They just argued and made up later and never addressed the problem. As always they are both to blame. But I can see how years of abuse without doing nothing about it can do that to people. And now Lucy is thinking the same thing as mike. How could my first crush best friend never have loved me? I’m just a parasite? There relationship is so bittersweet
Blue fox November 22, 2013, 4:49 PM EST.
C’mon guys, daisy is obviously talking about the past, that’s why abbey isn’t mad, i’m sure they talked about this long time ago and got over it together
fheer21 November 22, 2013, 4:50 PM EST.
I’ve always hated Daisy
WellSnap November 22, 2013, 4:50 PM EST.
Whatcha gonna say about THAT Abbey?
Crying Onion November 22, 2013, 5:00 PM EST.
zedigalis November 22, 2013, 5:09 PM EST.
“He’s a good kid. Don’t use him.”
Well, Lucy’s advice sure did fly out the window.
Irenezelle November 22, 2013, 5:11 PM EST.
I’d bet many things on Alejandro not being forgotten about. He’s Augustus’ brother after all, and I don’t see him going anywhere anytime soon. Augustus was one of the last to see Lucy don’t forget. Those two are still closely tied.
Masket November 22, 2013, 5:11 PM EST.
I loooooove @someones comment!!! poor abbey lol
Just saying November 22, 2013, 5:16 PM EST.
@ GracefulSerenity You. are. awesome.
PrincessKarina November 22, 2013, 5:23 PM EST.
I totally agree. I don’t think this is about Mike. I think she’s turning all about her. I really really hope Abbey is understanding of Daisy. After all, when they first started dating she never said she loved him and he said he would wait on her. And I hope he takes being drunk into consideration….
Mike does look like he is about to flip on her and start defending Lucy…or at least old Lucy. Or knowing Mike, he’ll try and bring up Sandy some how.
ObsessedFan November 22, 2013, 5:23 PM EST.
Lucy was a horrible person ya know. That’s why her advice is as useful as toilet paper in rain forest.
One thing that should be forgotten is his name. Seriously, Alejandro? Why not Pedro?
He’s not mad. Only frozen solid. Since that’s not a calm expression. Not at all.
Finally someone with pair of eyeballs in his head. To be honest I think he’s just shocked. But when he finally spans out of it I do believe he’ll either be angry or depressed. Or maybe both, because what Daisy is now doing and saying may - as Buchy-Chan said before - be reffering to friendship, but when we take their past into account thien this kind of behavious is just stupid. Even if she doesn’t mean she still want’s to have billions of offspring with Mike she sure makes whole thing look like it, and thus hurting her boyfriend. Or should I say as usual: a subistitute for Mike.
It’s really great they didn’t had sex. She would probably scream out Mike’s name.
He should be… he really should be.
Commander_Zero November 22, 2013, 5:25 PM EST.
I also kinda think that Abbey wants to know the same thing that Daisy is asking. His eyes look pained but also a little curious. He hasn’t even moved to shut her up…
ObsessedFan November 22, 2013, 5:31 PM EST.
I was wondering if it would come to this…but damn. And thus the issues in the relationship unfold!
look a paulo there, even hes thinking “damn”
Sleepingfox November 22, 2013, 5:31 PM EST.
Maith1 November 22, 2013, 5:34 PM EST.
Oh man, this is gonna be an intensely long wait for the next page!
I AM IN STRONG NEED OF SOME POPCORN!
Chocothunda November 22, 2013, 5:34 PM EST.
“BECAUSE I LOVE HER.” DUNDUNDUNDUUUUNNNNNN.
KIM November 22, 2013, 5:42 PM EST.
SeasonPrecure November 22, 2013, 5:43 PM EST.
I’m just waiting for the other older kids to break in with a loud, obnoxious OOOOH MY GOOOD akin to Mike’s sister. Like seriously, they can’t just be ignoring this with all the crying, rough housing and what not. I half expect the last page to be Rachel’s friends being “dude don’t EVER invite these kids to a party again”
Anon November 22, 2013, 5:55 PM EST.
I’m waiting for Mike to explain why he gets mad when he sees Lucy hanging out with Augustus or Paulo like she does with him.
Also, Mike and Daisy are so alike. I see them both being jealous of Lucy. Also they can’t see someone that’s RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. Mike can’t see that they are his friends. Daisy can’t get over Mike and thus can’t see Abbey and his current hurt expression. That’s what I think.
Gabria November 22, 2013, 5:56 PM EST.
Next week will finaly conclude this chapter! only 5 more pages till is concluded!
Comander_Nyan November 22, 2013, 5:59 PM EST.
Oh… no! Damn it, Daisy!!
Nothing good ever comes from serious conversations when you’re drunk. Never/
Dinique November 22, 2013, 6:01 PM EST.
Plot twist: the older kids are all enjoyinh the scene with a nice bucket of popcorn and when it’s all over they go like “Rach, you just HAVE to invite them to your next party!”
Somewhat November 22, 2013, 6:04 PM EST.
@Maith1, you have the right idea haha
Gabria93 November 22, 2013, 6:05 PM EST.
Daisy….lock your doors Carter is coming
I love Lucy November 22, 2013, 6:12 PM EST.
Yeah… she totally still has a tiny crush and isn’t over it at all.. x:”
awkward accidental ulterior motives… even Daisy gets more more absorbed in herself than the person she’s supposed to be having sympathy for sometimes. ^^;
-.- November 22, 2013, 6:13 PM EST.
Poor Abbey, having to bear all of this drama sober
Tcj333 November 22, 2013, 6:32 PM EST.
I don’t even know how to describe Abbey’s reaction… He looks how I do before I go off by myself or feel sick to my stomach
Moo November 22, 2013, 6:33 PM EST.
Why hasn’t it occurred to anyone to stop drinking? OH YEAH…. plot-related purposes.
But drunk!Daisy DOES bring up a good point for the gang. Now that they all know that Mike wasn’t ALWAYS fond of Lucy, they MUST be wondering WHY he stayed with her? Or defend her from people bad mouthing her? Remember that one time Mike gave Daisy, and scolded her, when she voiced her negative opinion of Lucy to Paulo during middle school? I bet those memories of Mike standing by Lucy must be playing in her head like a broken record.
But poor Abbey though! I bet he had a feeling about Daisy’s feelings ALL along, but to actually HAVE said suspicions confirmed…. .
Subaru November 22, 2013, 6:40 PM EST.
@ Somewhat Taishi is probs gonna use that as an excuse to end the chapter. They are going to look around and realize that everyone is watching them. and then they will get really embarrassed . I will laugh. It will be like when Jess and Rachel were first introduced to the group: remember, they are all Rachel’s friends.
Like I said at the beginning of the chapter, everyone will forget b/c they are drunk. Only Abbey will know all the secrets, and he will have to decide whether or not to tell them. I want to see what he is made of.
Daisy is even more putting herself in the Naughty box right now. You are now underneath David. Are you happy? STAHP! Anyway, that better be your thinking face mike. I have been waitng for you to have a good, hard think about Lucy, because right now you are running on empty. You liked her because you could see the good person underneath. You wanted to bring out the Lucy that did not hate everyone. There’s a part of her that was rare and beautiful, that was worth fighting for. Right?
Lordofrye November 22, 2013, 6:44 PM EST.
jesUS CHRIST DAISY
isabelle November 22, 2013, 6:55 PM EST.
Imagine how the older kids must think or Rachel’s friends xD
da soggeh taco November 22, 2013, 6:56 PM EST.
I feel like even though Lucy was a bully to Paulo that they shouldn’t ignore what paulo said to her like what daisy’s doing right now. Daisy took a what he said to Lucy with a grain of salt and twisted it into being about HER and her feelings :T. My respect to daisy as a character has been dwindling ever since the whole condom scenario, but this is just poisoning to watch, ontop of the fact that’s infront of a SOBER abby.
da soggeh taco November 22, 2013, 7:04 PM EST.
Daisy, what are you doing? Daisy, stop.
BlossomWolf November 22, 2013, 7:06 PM EST.
Man, I really thought that it was going to be more **** going down than that… Hm… I honestly thought Abbey would start getting ******, what with his anger issues and all, but he seems surprisingly chill. Wuh chu doin’ Abbey?
P.S: I know this is a bit off-topic but I really like the desktop website. Before this I’ve been reading this on my phone, but this just looks amazing. Great job!
Parasite November 22, 2013, 7:19 PM EST.
Oh daisy…why u did that to abbey
*sigh* i miss lucy :,(
crys November 22, 2013, 7:23 PM EST.
I’d get cheated on by Daisy
SuitCase November 22, 2013, 7:26 PM EST.
Othoniel November 22, 2013, 7:31 PM EST.
Wow, the comments are a mess today.
Okay, people, let’s calm down and not jump on Daisy and freak out about her cheating on Abbey. It’s pretty obvious she’s asking about “back then” and not trying to gain his affections now. She just wants to know why he chose Lucy over her in the past, and I’m pretty sure Abbey is intelligent enough to know this.
After all, if all he has to say is bad about her, then it doesn’t make any sense to Daisy why he would’ve chosen Lucy back then at all. WAS it just her looks? Or is he lying about her being a rotten person and there was a LOT of good he fell in love with?
She just wants to know why, not trying to win his heart for her own. So stop it with the Daisy-bashing, ‘kay? She knows there’s no chance for her and him and she loves Abbey to bits anyway.
Maybe by her asking this, she’s trying to get him to remember some of the good parts about Lucy since he seems to have clouded them over with the bad.
Zone November 22, 2013, 7:32 PM EST.
dude..daisy needs to shut-up
hawaii5oxo November 22, 2013, 7:37 PM EST.
@Zott - I was wondering when Ale would come back into the story and do that, actually. With Lucy gone, Mike is pretty pathetic in a fight when he’s sober and Paulo while a good fighter is scared of his bark. Abbey may have to be the one to defend the group, especially if Daisy gets hurt, and we may see a dark side of him we never hoped to see.
(Frankly, I’m still secretly rooting for AlePaulo (non-con, of course). I’m a twisted person. )
I wonder which side Augustus would take, it if came to that? He likes the group (some of them), but Ale is kind of his boss, isn’t he? (And while we’re asking about people coming back into the story, will we ever see the little blue bird again?)
Zone November 22, 2013, 7:46 PM EST.
I like how everyone’s an honest drunk.
TaFF November 22, 2013, 7:47 PM EST.
Page 3 of Confrontation and this page are so different
ChimeraDitto November 22, 2013, 7:55 PM EST.
Ultimate Twist next page:
Mike: Shut up Daisy, you don’t understand Lucy like i do!
because no one expected that….. again…
Sty November 22, 2013, 8:10 PM EST.
Prediction: Mike never went for Daisy because she essentially is the Anti-Lucy. Both tried too hard to get Mike’s attention, but where Lucy’s attempts caused a lot of physical and emotional harm to Mike, Daisy got herself placed squarely in the friend category. In their one encounter, Sandy works for Mike because she treats him like a person and not an end-goal objective. (Both Lucy and Daisy defined their relationships with Mike by the fact they had affections for him whereas his relationship with Sandy was likely a three dimensional one.)
It’ll be interesting to see Abbey’s reaction to this.
GEsque November 22, 2013, 8:29 PM EST.
Everyone head down to your bomb shelters because dis is about to blow up!!!
who was the person who claimed mike hanging around lucy made HIM a better person. I recalled him being nice from the start, Lucy was a insecure jerk since they were little. He did the best he could and deserves to move on.
Alllssooo why is no one trying to stop this.
wonkybird November 22, 2013, 8:38 PM EST.
poor Abby. He’s like Peeta. He likes the girl, but the girl likes the childhood friend.
Seoq November 22, 2013, 8:55 PM EST.
oh, poor Abbey!!!
Daisy, you really shouldn’t say that when Abbeys around!
because it wouldn’t be pretty…
Anna-B-Chan November 22, 2013, 9:18 PM EST.
No ! Daisy ! Stop talking ! You’re gonna make Abbey cry ……. and possibly crush Mike to death…..
eyexofxtiger November 22, 2013, 9:21 PM EST.
lol abbys sure taking this well. This really isn’t about daisy liking mike. Daisy just wants to understand y in the hell mike spent so much time with an angry girl who treated him like dirt vs spending all his time with her. Her someone who was nothing but kind and good to him.
JustSomeCritic November 22, 2013, 9:22 PM EST.
@Speed of sound
OmegaB November 22, 2013, 9:27 PM EST.
yes, let us hold drunk high school kids to the standards of adults, let us take it farther, we should be angry enough at a work of fiction that we would take the life of another person if they were real, even tho this happens all the time in real life and you do nothing.
let us go farther and and bring shipping into the mix, ignoring someones flaws and obvious mistakes simply because we do not wish to acknowledge that maybe, everyone in this work of fiction has something wrong about them or what they have done.
and lets not forget that this is the internet, where ALL arguments are listened to, look at from all angles and responded to in a calm, intelligent manner. yup, the internet where getting in an argument does not make you a moron for wasting your time, or keeping you from doing something that matters (honey, did you remember to get the milk on your way home, oh, you have yet to leave?)
remember kids, when you get into a fight on the internet, you have already lost. chill the **** out and have a sandwich.
Whistleblower November 22, 2013, 9:32 PM EST.
Go ahead mike, snap at her like every other time. Snap at her with a defense for Lucy, canceling out all that you said before about her, and realize how much you’ve messed up on your end. Make daisy realize how much she’s messing up infront of her boyfriend, and point out that she indeed has one and to realize what she has too.
Or else, ya know, verbally slap her and pansy out.
Purple haze November 22, 2013, 9:43 PM EST.
oh, ah, yes, feel that angst and drama, and the commentators just make it all the better, I love every second of it -w-
Den November 22, 2013, 10:22 PM EST.
So this is your reasoning Daisy?
Random dude November 22, 2013, 10:23 PM EST.
Daisy’s finally pointing out after so many years that she’s so much better than Lucy?
And it took her alcohol to realize.
Mikika Hatari November 22, 2013, 10:48 PM EST.
I feel bad for abbey here.
GLaDOS November 22, 2013, 11:10 PM EST.
Wow…..Ok I just lost respect for you a little bit. That was just…WOW. That was just ********, right there.
firstname.lastname@example.org November 22, 2013, 11:14 PM EST.
Meh, Daisy was already in the naughty box for me. This makes it a little bit worse, but only a little. Btw I am thoroughly re-reading the archives again. So far, I have found only two people who are really Mike’s friends. One is obviously Sandy. The other, however, is Lucy. Considering chapter 15, she actually wanted him to be happy. It would hurt if he got together with someone else, but she was willing to accept it. To answer Daisy’s question, Lucy treated him like a friend while Daisy kinda objectified him. Lucy did argue with him often, but she also considered his feelings.
Lordofrye November 22, 2013, 11:38 PM EST.
This is… kinda turning out in ways I didn’t expect! Like HOLY crimeny!
I’ve wanted to rant and rage over the last couple of pages, just because I’m still irritated at Mike - don’t hate him, just to clarify. But I just realized something about that last panel, and maybe it’s nothing….
It’s as if Paulo and Abbey are asking similar questions. Why DID Mike like Lucy so much? Why DIDN’T he return Daisy’s affections? HOW is it that he behaves, to the eyes of those two boys, like such a selfish jerk, and still gets the attention of the ladies they adore?
Clearly they’re not happy, and maybe they’re dreading the answer, but BOY do they wanna know just as much as Daisy does.
This whole painful string of events is the first chance anyone has at truly healing from Lucy’s departure. The truth is coming out. Liquor-fuelled, yes, but it’s time to pull back the rug, find the broken pieces, and think about what should be fixed.
FANTASTIC stuff Taeshi! And congrats on the Kickstarter!
Ryuko November 22, 2013, 11:47 PM EST.
This is getting tense
Kleitos November 23, 2013, 12:20 AM EST.
It’s had to see how this chapter can end properly with only 5 pages left, gotta wonder if this is going to be a two part deal.
On a side note a random and funny as hell way to end it would be as the tensions rise all of them are arguing, and out of the blue Amaya lets a out a loud audible fart, and everyone just stops talking and busts out laughing, or something goofy.
starfighter105 November 23, 2013, 12:52 AM EST.
Adore Daisy to liking Daisy in 2 pages! That’s a world record! (not relli )
And Abbey’s not drunk, just sayin, that’ll b interesting when everyone else forgets about this whole thing
Petrotasia November 23, 2013, 12:53 AM EST.
Actually taking a 3rd look at this page, Mike’s look looks like the look of serious contemplation. It could be (as some have suggested) that Mike is thinking on his relationship with Lucy. But part of me wants to think he’s thinking ‘what WAS I thinking, I could’ve had me some fluffy kitty.” (going to avoid the censors there as i’m sure the alternative will get jammed) Just kidding, but I do think he isn’t thinking on lucy per se. I think Daisy’s “confession” is starting wheels spinning in his head. Like “maybe i’m right, maybe what I did was for the best if she hurt Daisy like this”. Like I said I think Mike feels justified for part of what he said so what Daisy said basically could be confirming his justification of launching an attack.
Wanna know something funny? I was thinking something similar just a few minutes before I posted this rant and saw you comment.
Actually that wouldn’t be much of a twist as everyone’s expecting mike to turn around and be a ***** to Daisy on Monday. The real twist is if Mike agrees with Daisy and apologizes for all the pain and rejection he and lucy have made her suffer through.
buchanen_neket November 23, 2013, 1:22 AM EST.
I’m very glad that Abbey isn’t drunk. I fear that he would flip.
Anon November 23, 2013, 1:44 AM EST.
This all seems pretty normal.
Course, now I’m imagining abbey’s lack of boisterous reaction is actually leading toward him quietly exiting the room while everyone is still talking, finding a bottle, and tossing it back… all eye-less, for dramatic effect. [ E N D ]
QuixoticRiot November 23, 2013, 1:54 AM EST.
you wanted to be a puss about this mike now deal with this!!, even so poor poor abbey in his mind he probably is like
Knight-A November 23, 2013, 2:16 AM EST.
Man I kinda feel bad for abbey but I also kinda hoped she would (or someone) would ask this. If nothing else so that Mike could say it out loud and we’d know for sure why he felt that way. why does this always happen on Fridays?
And in all straight up honestly I think Paulo is probably wondering the same thing, I mean we all know given the chance he’d choose Daisy over all Lucy. I wonder how he feels about Daisy (too) liking Mike and sort of overlooking him?
Samm-y November 23, 2013, 2:18 AM EST.
Yet another romance shot to pieces. This is really starting to get depressing.
Mr. Me November 23, 2013, 2:26 AM EST.
its not wrong but
look what you will do to dear abby
MimiChan November 23, 2013, 2:45 AM EST.
I would tell Daisy to stop, but, this seems to be going well…Because if mic answers this one honestly or even think about it, he’ll stop deluding himself.
Friedhelm November 23, 2013, 3:02 AM EST.
Has Abbey been sober this entire time?
Mr.Chair November 23, 2013, 3:30 AM EST.
Did anyone see what @SuitCase wrote?
I read it and died X’D I can’t even
I can’t tell if this is An absolute canon confirmation that Daisy is going to cheat on Abbey or just a joke to get us riled Cx
Silveryogurt November 23, 2013, 4:36 AM EST.
You know, I think it’s time I cleared up something with my hate for Mikey boy, as well as people who try and defend him. I ain’t ****** that he’s a self-centered ******* who thinks that everyone should feel sorry for (though that doesn’t help), but the fact that some people actually have the nads to compare mental destruction to a few punches and bruises, it’s just sickening.
Honestly, the way some people act, it’s like Lucy broke Mikes arms and legs mafia style, and then left him in the hospital so she could come and gloat. Last I checked, all he had was a few bruises and maybe a broken nose because she overdid it. An you know what, all that is small potatoes, because this blue scarfed mofo pretty much mentally wrecked her and used her biggest weakness. You know what, if Lucy..nay..if ANYONE pulled the same stunt I’d be angry at them. Mental scars never heal, when compared to a few bruises.
The fact that some people defend this type of behavior as ‘normal’, just makes me sick and disgusted. Not only it shows that type of sick ****ers you are, but pretty much saying that you’ll gladly pull the same stunt, guaranteed.
An now that Daisy is pretty much trying to dick ride him, isn’t helping me feel sorry for this *******, nor Daisy’s two faced nature. They say a drunk mans tongue say’s everything a sober one keeps in his mind, well if that’s true that Daisy is one two-timing ****.
Kanashe November 23, 2013, 4:38 AM EST.
What i find really irritating about this comic, is that now lucie’s punching is treated like she really punched anyone, really was abusive, when in the first few chapters, the punching was more like the common hate-flirt behavior, that is known from many comics in many boy-girl relationships as a metaphor for pushing someone away because one can’t handle ones own feelings. That is also how the reaction of every other character was at the beginning. I recall that Lucie did not only punch Mike but also other male characters. So is she a bully? If she did really went so hard physically on all the characters (did she not attack one of the females at her sleepover-birthday-party?), then Mikes and Daisies reaction are more normal than those of the others. Contrary to Abbey, who handled confrontation with physical aggression because of his history, Lucie acts like this out of nowhere. I do like how the characters evolve during the comic, but this bothers me much.
Kaboo November 23, 2013, 5:49 AM EST.
I have been reading through all those comments and am a little confused.
Everyone is talking about Mike dumping lucy as she confesses her love to him and what *** he is. But. Haven’t it been the other way around? First, Mike confessed her love to her. She dumped him in her typical agressive way. Not good. Then Sandy came back and Mike and her started a close relationship. Lucy thought, she may lose Mike and got angsty. Then she said, that she actually loved Mike all the time and he should leave Sandy. Not good. Mike got angry and dumped her the same way as she did.
Lucy is a sad panda.
Its not like i dont understand Lucy, but i also understand Mike. All those Mike haters think Mikes the Devil ‘cause Lucy feels bad now and Mikes got a girlfriend. But they only reacted in a different way. Both made the same mistake, but everyone (the chars and the readers) only see the fault of Mike. And Mike feels bad for what happened.
So WHATS the ****ing matter?
Sinaitigers November 23, 2013, 6:11 AM EST.
Derrick November 23, 2013, 7:36 AM EST.
I don’t feel that Daisy is really into Mike right now.(dunno if said it correctly ). She has a nice boyfriend who supports her in everything. And I belive that she loves him as much as he does. But you know… When one of your friends say that you are wonderfull why another don’t… at all?
I think she is just curious why Mike rejected her, and why he didn’t give her the same attention that he gave to Lucy. Because she tried really hard to make herself good for him and get his attention while Lucy did nothing except bullying. Daisy is smart and cheerful and really nice so is it really because of her looks?
I wonder what Mike is gonna say about it.
If Mike wasn’t the friend of Daisy I think she would get over him completely. But when your previous crush floating around all nice and happy… it’s annoying. If that happend to me, I also would like to know why the previous love of my life dumped me.
JayLime November 23, 2013, 7:47 AM EST.
Hm… sad though his cp didn’t ring.
Well… poor Daisy You poor adorable little creature. Lucy and Mike go waaaaay back so maybe you’d understand less (a bit maybe) but Lucy and Mike HAD this bond back then. Well not until Mike and Lucy began to realize their mistakes but TRIED to reconcile and failed miserably. And Daisy! No one is every better than anyone! We all have flaws and strong points! It’s okay to be curious as to why Mike thought that Lucy was better, but I don’t think he sees it that way. I think he sees it that you’re independent, strong, and attributes of a good person. Lucy is good too though because of the angst and violence, Mike SAW her as a parasite. Before that though he kind of thought that he was her prince charming or something like that.
I am quite annoyed though. They’re making it look like Lucy was some kind of mafia-boss-gang-leader or something like that. I never knew Mike or anyone of them got into the hospital or ICU because of Lucy. Actually, in the trip with Tess, didn’t Lucy protect Mike, Paulo, Daisy, and the rest of them? Why are they now making her like some kind of criminal. Sure, she was aggressive, but c’mon people! Lucy has problems!! Geez, it’s like no one knew that. -___-
But anyway, I’m kind of nervous on how Abbey might react. Yes, he’ll try to be understanding because he’s such a sweet and caring person, but he might get hurt too with where Daisy’s going at. He may confuse it as if Daisy made him into a rebound or something.
Welp. I guess it’s time to microwave the popcorn.
Anonymousx101 November 23, 2013, 8:16 AM EST.
Bzzzt! Wrong answer, I ain’t ****** at Mike for having Sandy, I’m ****** at this ******* for stepping to the lowest tactic, using a persons personal fears and thus mentally destroying them. Then having the goddamn audacity to be angry that nobody supports his douche bag way, adding that he thinks so damn high of himself.
Kanashe November 23, 2013, 8:19 AM EST.
I actually want Mike to take a good, long think about this. He is a smart kid, and needs to figure this out for himself. This is an important question, as he can’t insult Lucy without doing the same to himself. Somebody’s going to get hurt from this. I hope that it is only those who need to be hurt for their own good.
Also, as of now Daisy is at the very bottom of the naughty list. She was already near the bottom, but this is low. She needs to be told that she objectified Mike for years, not really seeing him as a person. She had a crush on him, but she is obsessing over a love that never existed. And she assumes ththat the problem has to do with physical appearance, because nothing could ever be wrong with her actions! Also, everyone views her like a little sister, so nobody tells her to stop. She is out of control and needs a good talking-to.
Lordofrye November 23, 2013, 9:11 AM EST.
Here is a song that describes Lucy during her final months in Roseville http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH0vjLwMyc4
Normal November 23, 2013, 9:34 AM EST.
Mike is a good guy but he is just a kid, he didn´t act like a really gentleman but everybody screw up once in a while, he doesn´t deserve so much hate
Levilk November 23, 2013, 10:36 AM EST.
Well speaking about it behind his back is far better, isn’t it? She can have what she want, he won’t mind since he won’t know. Perfect… way to make a ***** of herself.
Haha, is funny because 1-or-2 person were arguing and you’re trying to gain e-cool points, but doing it wrong. We all laugh at you now, haha, so funny.
STOP MASTERBATING TO THE COMMENTS, YOU GODDAMN DEVIANT!
Better =/= Fatter, lol
Why didn’t he return Daisy affection: she’s fatty fat and irritating and literally thrown herself at him, which was pathetic. Friend of mine had similliar situation. Girl said: “I will do anything for you”, and since she bothered him for weeks, he finally replied: “If that’s the case, then leave me alone”. Mike doesn’t have any cojones to pull something like this, he needed Daisy to almost rape him at the carnival, to finally tell her off, though for me it’s pretty clear why didn’t he returned her affection.
And why Mike get all the girls attention? I guess it’s the same case with Justin Bieber. Somehow many womens are attracted to other womens, but are to ashamed to admit it. So they pick guys that have litteraly nothing to do with a male sex.
“The real twist is if Mike agrees with Daisy and apologizes for all the pain and rejection he and lucy have made her suffer through.”
And right after that he will visit Hitler, and apologize him for all the pain and rejection Allies and Soviets made him suffer through.
Commander Zero, bringing Nazis into discussion since late 80’s
Let’s not forget about the fact that Mike never complained about said “abuse”. Bah, he never considered it Abuse until Sandy shared some knowledge (seriously, giving someone life-advice based on a phone-call info, that’s not dumb at all - btw: bad news for some commentors: you got AIDS, I can tell it from the way you’re posting).
Commander_Zero November 23, 2013, 4:53 PM EST.
@Normal - Actually, it makes me think of Paulo in the months leading up to it, not Lucy. After she got hurt by Mike, she was distant with everyone, let Paulo in one last time during the play, then vanished. And he tried and tried to contact her, by phone, by visiting, but her brothers turned him away or she just didn’t answer. And then, without a word to him about what happened or where she was going, she left after the play was done.
With that in mind, can you blame him for being depressed and hanging out with the only one who didn’t treat him like crap for being who he is? Rachel is helping mend his broken heart, and while a lot of people think they just sleep together, I think they just hang out, too.
The only thing that could work for Lucy and Mike, maybe, is the bridge and the chorus. And if Rachel hadn’t been there for Paulo, he might’ve done something severely stupid, too.
Zone November 23, 2013, 5:13 PM EST.
The reason people hit on the physical aspect so much is because it’s the most visibly apparent in the story and easiest to build a case from. But it wasn’t the only thing, Lucy was hitting Mike with a double whammy (emotional, physical). If we factor in the possibility of that mike’s doormat behavior could be a result of what Lucy’s did to him then we can bring it up to a triple threat. But let’s stick with what we can see.
Exhibit A) As was pointed out, Mike confessed to Lucy first and she outright scorched his ***. He finally gets back with Sandy and “all of a sudden” Lucy’s been in love with him for a long time and makes her confession stating as much. This would include back to when Mike made his confession. I don’t know about you but that seems to be a bit more than a coincidence that she shifted opinions just as Mike is getting with Sandy.
Exhibit B) When Mike scorched her, who does she run to, Paulo. But then not long after we have her back to near humping Mike’s leg again. Now it could be that she was using Paulo as an emotional rebound, but it’s also possible that she was planning to use Paulo to make Mike jealous. Her little flip flop was a little too damn quick to securely say that she actually wanted Paulo. Of course this backfired when Paulo didn’t go for it. However this can be left to speculation because we really don’t have much of an idea of what was going through her head during that period.
However beyond these two exhibits there’s been a trail of Lucy flip flopping and emotionally screwing with Mike. So at the very least we have Lucy’s emotionally and physically “troubling” Mike vs. Mike’s instance of emotionally attacking her.
But let’s look at that for a second. Everyone focuses on what Mike did in December, but nobody wants to regard the build up to that moment. If they do they try to spin it into a bad light. Could it not be possible that all of what everybody views as dick moves actually be him trying to let Lucy down easy. Could not his ignoring her be him trying to distance himself from her without tearing down her feelings. Hell even in the oh so heavily pointed out December, did he break right into tearing her apart? No, he told her she should leave.
He clearly wanted to her to go because he knew nothing good could come from the discussion. What does she do? Does she honor his wish and just leave and try to rekindle another day? No, she tries to push her way into his business which it really was none of her’s. She had a clear warning to drop it and just leave. She may have had good intentions but she made a **** poor decision when Mike was clearly showing he was getting ******.
That’s why I personally defend Mike. Because, as I have submitted to you, Lucy has not only physically but emotionally and possibly psychology “troubled” Mike. When it comes to December, Lucy has just as much responsibility for Mike’s explosion as Mike himself does for losing his temper. Neither is completely innocent in this affair and both of guilty of something. However with the high amount of Mike hate here, someone has to speak of for Mike’s side. Fortunately more and more have begun arguing Mike’s side of this fight.
buchanen_neket November 23, 2013, 5:36 PM EST.
Finally some one who have been reading the whole story.
Sinaitigers November 23, 2013, 5:54 PM EST.
No Daisy OnO you and abbey are cute together!!!! I’m so sorry abbey I can’t stop her T-T
kitty777 November 23, 2013, 5:56 PM EST.
Raise your hand if you like Daisy and abbey together more than daisy and mikie *raises hand*
kitty777 November 23, 2013, 6:03 PM EST.
matt November 23, 2013, 6:36 PM EST.
Totally agree with you @buchanen
Like that you brought up Mike confessing to Lucy first thing
Keep fighting bro
Jonas97face November 23, 2013, 6:40 PM EST.
I don’t understand why people are so partisan. I can support Lucy, one of my favorite characters, without a smear campaign. Mike made some bad decisions, but I can understand the reasons behind them - and so I don’t bash him.
Response to Exhibit A) I don’t actually remember Mike saying “I love you” to Lucy. Correct me if I am wrong. As there is no direct confession of Mike’s, I will assume that you mean the incident where he tried to kiss her (post-Sam). There was no ***-scorching there. She was confused and scared, and she ran away. I see no reason to blame either party there. When Lucy made her confession to Mike, both of them already knew. I remember the words “it was obvious” (although I don’t remember who said them). There was no sudden realization. It was just Lucy trying to be honest for once (not “the Lucy way”). Also, when Sandy was introduced as Mike’s long-distance girlfriend, Lucy did try to support him. Throughout all of chapter 15, she was a supportive friend.
Response to Exhibit B) The order of these events is slightly different. In “Another Shoulder”, three things happen. First, Daisy tactlessly forced Mike and Lucy together (this is part of the reason I don’t like her) . They were avoiding each other in order to think out their situation. Mike yells at Lucy, and she runs off. Then Lucy goes to Paulo. I disagree with the opinion that he is her “rebound”. Her first words to him are “Please help me”. He had previously been there to help her out with Mike, and that is presumably why she went to him. She trusted him secondmost out of everybody. I assume that she went to him for psychological help, of a kind. What happened later happened because she felt indebted, tired and emotionally worn out. Then, Lucy and Mike get pushed together again (Mike’s fault, may I add). She settles down to work with him and to get the project done, ignoring the bad feelings between them. Then, she tries to rekindle a lost friendship. When Mike decides to kick her out, she wants to know why (is it not her right to know?). I see no “leg-humping”: only them being forced together by the circumstances. Mike takes his anger at the world out on the person in front of him. Then things happen (December has been done to death, and I have no need of it).
Throughout the story, we have also seen Lucy treat Mike as an actual person. Unlike many of his other “friends”, she actually cares about his feelings. There have been several incidents where she has protected him, helped him, or made him feel better.
She also does improve over the course of the series. She did beat people and constantly argue with them in the beginning of the series. However, nearer the current story, she does these things far less. She found her own flaw and consistently tried to improve, unlike most of the other characters. She compensated for her flaw and tried to be aware of her effect on others.
That is why I personally defend Lucy. She actually watches the people around her and cares about what they think. She watches herself for flaws, and fixes them when they appear. She has a vision that nobody else has.
Lordofrye November 23, 2013, 6:47 PM EST.
@Lordofrye I agree that Lucy was scared when Mike was getting real close to her and it’s right that she is not to blame but I think it did hurt Mike. We can see that Lucy was scared and everything like that since we always (mostly) got to view Lucy’s feelings. Mike can’t see everything we get to see so he might have felt hurt at that moment
Jonas97face November 23, 2013, 6:57 PM EST.
Will this be the last chapter before Christmas?
Jonas97face November 23, 2013, 7:00 PM EST.
I’m just saying, i’m seeing a clear path of intent forming. I wish I had a better net connection so I could go back and pull precedent. However every page takes about 4-5 minutes to load and there’s a lot of precedent I need to pull on this case. It’s just I have this gut instinct rereading the story a while back that it’s more than coincidence we’ve been kept out of Lucy’s head and when we do get a vision of her mind it’s always from a 3rd person’s perspective.
Maybe she did start out as a nice girl with issues, but those issues have seemed to have built up to a point that the reason we are kept from getting a direct view of Lucy’s mind is because maybe her actions are a bit more intentional than let on. Like her turn about flip flopping is meant to get back at Mike for turning her down, would make sense, this was occurring before she had her revelation (which didn’t happen till the vacation arc) and would keep in line with her character lashing at others. Her sudden love for Mike is to keep him around and she believes that Mike can’t be with Sandy and be her, pardon the term, “crutch”. Then there’s her whole behavior when talking to others about the confession. Wouldn’t have taken two seconds to say “he’s got a girlfriend”. However she doesn’t mention that. Now some could argue her behavior is really her being forced to confess what happened. But in another light it could be for her fishing for someone to give her a reason to bring it up, that way she can appear innocent while turning others against Mike.
There’s a too many coincidences, too many happenstances in her behavior. When that happens you have to look and see if the possibility that the actions are actually done with intent is present. That’s what i’m seeing, far too many happenstances for it to be “just coincidence”. That it’s far more plausible these are intentional acts done to try and keep Mike in the picture and when it fails to work they are done to retaliate on Mike. That is till Vacation, she does try to change but she still made a **** poor judgement call in December.
Again really wish I could pull precedent to show my case.
buchanen_neket November 23, 2013, 7:17 PM EST.
Oh my god. My heart hurts for Abbey. He really loves Daisy a lot.. and she’s doing this. The blank stare he has makes me sad. One of the times your comic has made me feel strong emotions, Taeshi. Maybe she doesn’t love Abbey very much and still isn’t over Mike. I hope this is just drunken rambling for Abbey’s sake.
Hayli November 23, 2013, 7:24 PM EST.
somehow I think there will be a great mix of couples after this evening,but somehow Ithink we are forgetting something…. isn´t there a birthday beingcelebrated?
ZeroMoon November 23, 2013, 7:38 PM EST.
oh **** son
Luan November 23, 2013, 7:58 PM EST.
@gracefulserenity : I think we found a stroke of bri-lli-ance! I have struggled with how to place myself, unable to take a side, but I believe you have hit it!
HatsuneMiku November 23, 2013, 8:17 PM EST.
What’s on the menu for today? A grand serving of drama with a side of heartache, comin right up!
Yeeeeepppppp November 23, 2013, 8:51 PM EST.
I never got that feeling from Lucy. I’m rereading for about the fifth time now, so I will look for that. So far, I have seen no underhanded intentions. Plus, I doubt that tweens are capable of that kind of cunning. Especially tweens with serious emotional dependency. Lucy is especially mood-swingy during that period. About the girlfriend thing: they already knew, yes? There were atleast five instances of him screaming it at people.
Lordofrye November 23, 2013, 9:43 PM EST.
@Buchey I’d have to disagree with you on the whole intentional manipulation thing. I don’t believe Lucy has that level of tact or social awareness. Which makes sense when you consider the fact that aside from a family we know fairly little about, Lucy has NEVER HAD A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP WITH ANYONE. Daisy’s pretty much confirmed she and Lucy weren’t all that close, Paulo harassed her for her looks, David was David, and we’ve already gone on and on about Mike. Maybe Tess, but I don’t think that their relationship was much more than a vague sense of understanding between the two. She might be capable of manipulation like that if she was an out and out sociopath, but I don’t think she would have developed the way she did if that was true.
titansCrypt November 23, 2013, 9:48 PM EST.
He yelled it a lot but they never actually acknowledged it till Mike showed a picture of her after he got hounded by the girls. They thought she was someone Mike made up to have an excuse for not getting with Lucy. Paulo’s reaction tells it, he said something like “she’s real!”.
Like I said, it’s just a hunch, not even my primary one. Just something that’s been on the back burner for a while. Now i’m not saying that lucy is acting to be malicious, however it could have been an act of desperation to keep her friend. Thus showing a gradual build to her suicide after it all blew up in her face. See my hunch is that she may have been acting to isolate Mike. Isolate him from Sandy and the group from him, leaving her as his sole friend he can come to. As for explaining why she didn’t reveal the girlfriend, it could be possible that she didn’t know Mike had the picture thus proof of Sandy’s existence. However this horrifically backfired as her actions caused Mike to boil more and more till he exploded on her.
But like I said, this is just one of my hunches, more of a theory really. It would explain all her “Just happened to” moments during that section. That she “just happened to” omit that part of the story, that she “just happened to” go to Paulo (a known rival of Mike’s) instead of one of her girlfriends (like Sue who supported her after the confession was revealed to the group), that she “just happened to” make her confession when Mike was already in a romance with someone else. Etc and so forth.
When you’re looking through, see how many times you find yourself saying “just happened to” to explain her actions. Like the saying goes (I think, I’ll probably misquote) “once is an accident, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action”
buchanen_neket November 23, 2013, 10:01 PM EST.
And suddenly we see the fine lines holding this group’s friendship together is not really held together with crazy glue and duct tape, but instead spit and blades of grass. I wouldn’t be surprised to watch the group slowly (or quickly) fall apart.
Sanitarium November 23, 2013, 10:18 PM EST.
Paulo was the only one who did not believe Mike: the others had no problem. Also, Paulo was doing that to be a dick. The Paulo thing can be explained by the fact that he comforted her last time she fought with Mike.
Explain: at what point do you feel this happening? Beginning, end, and examples. To be unbiased I need more exact data (and I really do want to be unbiased). If you can’t give me data, you should not be using this tack. Hunches are no way to conduct an debate.
Lordofrye November 23, 2013, 11:00 PM EST.
Really? you do realize taking something out of context can create bias too. If I pointed to any 3 sections (hint hint) then it could create a bias. Just read through like you said you were doing and see when trying to explain Lucy’s actions that you have to say something like “just happened to” maybe not that exact wording but any wording that equals that. If it goes over 3 then start looking for lines of correlation to “enemy” (Lucy’s not an enemy, but i’m trying to stick to the quote I used) action. That’s where my hunch derived from. Also most theories and investigations start with a hunch.
buchanen_neket November 23, 2013, 11:08 PM EST.
I feel semi-unique because I don’t believe that the original Mike and Lucy relationship was bad. They both do bad things to each other, but it’s because they are so close. They also confide in each other, protect each other, and work together. Just as Mike was Lucy’s only friend, Lucy was also Mike’s only true friend.
Lordofrye November 23, 2013, 11:09 PM EST.
So, you are telling me to look out for coincidences. Okay. However, it would help if you specify a little. Do you mean the whole story, or just the post-December period? I’m only up to chapter 20 so far, so precision makes it easier. I have seen nothing suspicious in the 2 or so chapters since your comment.
Lordofrye November 23, 2013, 11:21 PM EST.
Did you miss when I said hint hint after I said 3 sections? there was a reason for that. That’s where my instinct had the strongest reaction. Use a little deduction, that’s the only way your really going to come close to seeing what I see. Otherwise it’s moot point to point out any specific location.
buchanen_neket November 23, 2013, 11:25 PM EST.
What made her better than you Daisy? Why, she’s the antagonist, of course! You are, sadly, just a secondary character.
OneLonelyPickle November 23, 2013, 11:55 PM EST.
I JUST realized that they had pupils in this chapter. How long has this been going on? Am I really that unobservant? I feel so bad right now.
En November 24, 2013, 12:50 AM EST.
Daisy how could you? Right. In. Front. Of. Abbey. Who. Is. Your. BOYFRIEND
how self-centered. Only caring about yourself, not about how Abbey, or Paulo, or anyone else in the room might feel.
I just posted a picture of daisyxabbey. Looks like I’d better delete it.
glassesrock November 24, 2013, 1:09 AM EST.
why is this comic so sad
Angel November 24, 2013, 1:39 AM EST.
@glassesrock - Dude, chill out and slow down. Ever think she’s just speaking in RETROSPECT? If she wanted to get his affections now, she would say so. She’s blunt like that. And Abbey looks like he’s just listening, and is being reasonable about this whole thing. Why are you casting stones and claiming it’s over between them when it’s not?
Zone November 24, 2013, 4:10 AM EST.
You know, if it had been anyone but Daisy, I doubt you guys would be throwing stones. You assume that she’s going to cheat, just because she’s hugging another guy who she used to like but gave up on? What would you say if it was Amaya? “Ohhh, Amaya is such a ****, she knows he has a girlfriend but look at her doing—” No. Just, no. The stone-throwing ends now. Someone can hug someone without having ulterior motives, y’know. And it’s not like she’s doing it from the front and kissing his cheek and professing her still-burning love for him. Leave off her.
You’re like the gossip rags that see two celebrities that used to date but are now married to other people talking and hugging like friends and going “Ohhhh, scandal at the red carpet! Will this celebrity cheat? Are we going to be hearing about a divorce soon? Oh no, what about the children?!”
Until Abbey makes a move, stop speaking for him. It’s not cool, and it’s worse to assume and have a witch-hunt for Daisy. Abbey doesn’t look upset with her, he looks like he is intently listening for Mike’s answer just like Paulo and Daisy. And most likely everyone else.
Zone November 24, 2013, 6:04 AM EST.
I still believe it’s because she’s sticking up for Mike. There’s a bunch of haters on here, notice that opinion of Daisy made a rapid shift the moment she sided with Mike. It was at that point that all this “cheater” junk started. They’re trying to demonize her because they don’t want anyone on Mike’s side.
I thought this posted earlier but it didn’t. The whole conspiracy is really just a hunch, a gut instinct I have on the issue. You probably won’t agree with me, I don’t expect anyone to. It just makes sense to me, my real counter is in what I said to Kanashe. As for the prementioned partisanship, you can blame the Mike haters for that one. Like John Rambo said “They drew first blood, not me” and what I mean by that is way back in December the sides were massively uneven. Someone had to speak up for Mike, as I did more and more I found myself finding his actions justified. But to be clear, the Mike haters were the first one’s to start with the demonizing, overplaying Mike’s actions, underplaying Lucy’s, and, well, just outright omitting parts that didn’t fit their case for making a Mike the spawn of satan. I’ve just been acting as a counteragent. However because the other side is numerically and opinion wise out match my side, we have to take equal measures of pointing out all the crap Lucy’s pulled.
HEY!!! I don’t wear tinfoil hats, the government’s been pretty good about staying out of my head lately.
buchanen_neket November 24, 2013, 7:14 AM EST.
Commander_Zero November 24, 2013, 7:20 AM EST.
My point is that there is little reason to be so partisan. You criticized a character that I supported, and I fought back, similar to you. In fact, I am doing a similar thing to you. The main difference is that I did it without insulting you or your charge. Do you see? “because they did it first” is no way to support an argument. If you can’t support your own opinion without needing to point out how somebody else is terrible, what is the worth of your argument? I would like you to defend Mike without balancing off Lucy. How is he a good person? What really positive things has he done?
Lordofrye November 24, 2013, 9:24 AM EST.
just for infos: look at the previous page. fox’s comment was starred.
boh... November 24, 2013, 9:49 AM EST.
Thanks for actually seeing things as they kind of are, I will have to say, I have a bias to Lucy, no real reason for it, but I do believe Mike is playing it all wrong. Not to mention most of the times Lucy threw a punch, Mike usually said something that he knew would anger her. He was always or almost always ready to dodge, Lucy was by far one of the only to treat Mike like a person. Everyone else, kinda just saw him as “being there” and that is all, so when Mike suddenly turned around and slammed every weakness she has, right at her to dismantle her, I wasn’t only annoyed, i wanted to strangle him. I believe Sue (maybe Tess, don’t remember that well) is the best to understand Lucy cause she has seen how she is and got the story as of to why she is like that from Mike directly when he was getting a scarf from her. Hell he admits to abandoning her for Sandy, and then simply using her as a replacement, if I were her right now, I’d be kicking his *** knowing all the information.
What I really can’t stand about the Lucy haters/Mike supporters is that they all always seem to ignore that he was usually the one to say/do something that would make her act aggressively towards him. He knew it would happen and he ENSURED it would happen, but if he needed help, she was right there for him, he wanted to ditch the pep-rally, she tried to help him, she saw the card from Sandy, she didn’t freak out, she said “It’s so cool you two still keep in contact.” Lucy has been nothing but supportive of Mike, yeah she kicked his *** several times, but then again, he kind of made it happen.
ReniassanceVulpine November 24, 2013, 10:06 AM EST.
DAISY!!!! D :< HOW COULD YOU?!!!
SOGx-ray November 24, 2013, 11:33 AM EST.
The plot moistens
Slimey McSlime November 24, 2013, 11:33 AM EST.
…I really have to disagree with you here, and I think the fact that you have this theory at all shows how much you’re grabbing at trying to find reasons for Lucy to be the primary antagonist here. Lucy isn’t an awesome social manipulator, she’s actually pretty tactless and clueless - thus her playful roughhousing turning into actual abuse without /her/ noticing. She has never been depicted as good enough with people to try pulling off what you’re suggesting, and I feel like you’re only saying she is so you don’t have to admit her breakdown was a real one.
Besides, I don’t really see her confessing to Mike when he was with Sandy as a bad thing, necessarily, because I don’t /think/ she was trying to break them up, just get something off her chest. It wasn’t a malicious act on her part, she just honestly didn’t realize it could be read as such, because she’s a dysfunctional level of tactless.
Petra November 24, 2013, 11:54 AM EST.
Of course, Lucy /could/ have been trying to break them up, I’ll have to reread to confirm. But if that’s the case, she later realized that Mike and Sandy were a happy, strong relationship, and regretted her actions, so…
Petra November 24, 2013, 11:57 AM EST.
Fifth November 24, 2013, 2:21 PM EST.
aw and i was actually starting to like daisy. ugh.
michaela November 24, 2013, 3:59 PM EST.
Friedhelm November 24, 2013, 4:24 PM EST.
“Dear god people, is your hate that bad that you have to demonize anyone who says anything supportive to him or counter to your beliefs on Lucy?”
For some, yes. For those who can go in with a somewhat rational mind, this isn’t a case of “She likes Mike, so **** her.” For me, it’s more of a matter of tact, or the lack of it. She’s saying these things all in a manner that clearly indicates that she’s trying to get in good with Mike, in front of her sober boyfriend.
What she’s saying isn’t completely unfounded, though. Lucy wasn’t the nicest girl out there, and she did hit Mike often, and she did call him stupid. What Daisy doesn’t realize is that Mike hit back, and Mike called her stupid back, and that in the end he did the most damage between the two of them.
And also, “I’m so much better than Lucy, you should have picked me!” is an attitude that I can’t stand. Were I in Mike’s position I’m pretty sure I’d whip around and smack Daisy against a wall, or something stupid like that.
Mickey the Luxray November 24, 2013, 5:22 PM EST.
I’ve honestly never put much stock in starred comments, boh. Sometimes it’s simply starred because the commenter said something that amuses. A star doesn’t seem to really mean you said something necessarily correct, just that Taeshi or Suitcase liked something about it personally. it is kind of based more on the subjectiveness of Taeshi and Suitcase, from what I’ve seen.
buchanen_neket November 24, 2013, 7:52 PM EST.
also what the crap? Why is Taeshi expanding on this by 6 pages. I’ve got a bad feeling, it’s never good when Taeshi adds pages get ready for all hell to break loose. In five pages all that was possible was to pull a wrap up, the next 2 kind of close off mike/daisy, and the remaining three being a wrap up for a chapter as a whole.
However adding 6 more, yeah i’m predicting instead of Abbey being a mature rational being he’s going to jump on Daisy’s *** thinking she’s basically humping his leg at this point. I mean wasn’t it cheating that caused the climax of Abbey’s story? We’ve never seen how he feels about that, but you could tell in the flashbacks it shook him up fierce. Enough that he might have the same irrationality as he does for bullying.
So I see a chain reaction in the next 6 pages, Abbey gets mad at Daisy, Paulo attacks Abbey for attacking his “little sister”. An all out brawl breaks out between the two. Oh and Mike slips out in the chaos.
buchanen_neket November 24, 2013, 8:07 PM EST.
@Mickey the Luxray - I don’t think she’s saying “You should have picked me”, and even if she was I’m pretty sure she means as a friend because even back then she said “I can never compete with her” about Sandy. She knew he was out of reach and still is, but what she wants to know is WHY was this “horrible person” his best friend that he defended if you said anything bad about instead of Daisy, who has been standing by him no matter what and never hurt him - ‘cept when Augustus tried to get her to be more aggressive about her feelings. That was awkward.
And as for the sober boyfriend part, since he IS sober, he has a clear head and knows the facts enough to know it’s not anything to freak out about. Sure he had a jealous moment when Daisy and Paulo were cuddled up close and studying together before, but he knows that Mike, even if Daisy was still crushing on him, would never do anything to worry about unlike Paulo, who might’ve (in Abbey’s mind). Haven’t you ever comforted a friend that you knew was being hurt, but never did anything about until now? By doing this, Daisy is not only showing him they are his friends, she’s also making him think “why DID I like her?”.
‘Course, I could just be giving her too much credit and she’s just trying to keep him in the group by sucking up. Either way, she’s not kissing him, so stop it with the “****” and “cheater” comments. IT’S. A. HUG. She’d do the same whether it was a girl or a boy. And she’s also been using that nickname since she was little and even while dating Abbey, so it’s nothing but a nickname. Stop assuming that’s an indication.
Zone November 24, 2013, 8:19 PM EST.
I went back and read all those comic before… “Starting Over” and such. I found a different side to Mike.. A little.. I guess. Mike seemed to lead Lucy and he liked that. He even said she was a wonderful girl into her deaf ear so she didn’t hear him. I wish “that” Mike was there for Lucy when she was obviously acting strange and hurt. Right before Mike burst end out on Lucy they were laughing and playing old video games like they did back in the day! Oh Mike.. Is it your fault or is it Lucy’s for not acting more caring towards you?. //le sigh
Poptart-chan November 24, 2013, 9:05 PM EST.
You might be able to do that, but I can’t. The fact is that you’re one of the few that is somewhat level about all this ish. However the majority uses the same tactics i’m using. They started off with the whole demonizing of Mike and it’s continuing to this day. Did you miss some of the comments just a few pages back calling Mike a manwhore (strange they ain’t got a problem with Paulo being like that, oh right, he’s like Lucy, just has issues that makes it alright for him) and a manipulator. They hit hard so I have to hit back just as hard. Let someone who hasn’t been in this fight that long do the whole PC thing. I’m the one you go to when you need to get dirty.
buchanen_neket November 24, 2013, 9:29 PM EST.
This is a rather ugly side of Daisy here, isn’t it?
Ravako November 24, 2013, 10:20 PM EST.
@Ravako - Only if you assume it is anything but being a friend.
Zone November 24, 2013, 10:29 PM EST.
To those that are taking Abbey’s expression to be one of horror and shock, let me remind you of some things. When Abbey is shocked, his pupils become tiny dots and he gets shock-lines on his face. This is his “I’m listening intently” face, not his “I’m so shocked” face. If he is shocked about anything, it is most likely the story. Notice how he hasn’t said anything since the story was told? In his eyes, he hurt Lucy badly by calling her scum of the earth and a parasite, and how do you think he took hearing about that level of mental abuse from a “best friend” of Lucy’s? Remember his big “anti-bullying” campaign?
Zone November 24, 2013, 10:35 PM EST.
Oi, what is it with people and writing bloody novels? No one likes to read comments that take up your entire screen (and then some) and no one likes reading arguments about who’s opinion is right when no opinion is correct and no opinion is false. THAT’S WHY THEY’RE NOT CALLED FACTS. But anyway, it took me a whole minute to scroll down to the bottom without reading any comments, and there are only about 296 comments (297 when I’m done), so this means that everyone is writing bloody novels.
Carindel Girl November 24, 2013, 11:06 PM EST.
Thanks (if that was meant as a compliment)
I don’t know what to do with you. I agree with you sometimes, and seriously disagree with you at other times. Your ideas are perpendicular to mine. So far, I have tried to fight you on only one side, and to convert you. Join the light side! We have moral conviction and emotional strength.
But seriously, do try to do what I do. I cannot force you to do it, but I can ask you to try. Contrary to popular belief, it is much harder to fight someone who agrees with you. If you really want to defend Mike, do it by defending him, not by attacking Lucy. What you are doing now is just ******* people off. That achives almost nothing. Would you vote for someone whose entire campaign was a smear campaign?
I cut Mike the same slack I cut Paulo. They both have serious problems. In fact, almost everyone has problems. Unfortunately, the common one that they almost exclusively lack is vision. To quote a famous detective, ” You see, but do not observe. The distinction is clear.”
Also, these points do not apply to buchanen alone. Everyone should atleast try this - including my Lucy-loving brethren.
We really need to have this conversation outside of a comments box. This is getting ridiculous.
Lordofrye November 24, 2013, 11:10 PM EST.
@Zone Where in the world does her saying “What made her better than me?” come off as her being a friend? It’s jealousy. Old and bitter jealousy.
Ravako November 24, 2013, 11:13 PM EST.
I can feel bad vibes in the air, man.
But seriously, I can see a test for abbey being set up. I can see him as the keeper of many secrets after this party. We have yet to see how he reacts when he is at the center of angst. I see a “serious talk” with Daisy coming up soon.
Lordofrye November 24, 2013, 11:28 PM EST.
I was introduced to this on IG and read all of it on this website in a day. I spent four hours reading it before falling asleep and then I read the rest in my art lab. I was soooo friggan pis to find at the bottom of this page that i have to wait 73 FRIGGAN hours to read the next page. Whory cow im having a relaps and im gonna just reread the whole comic over and over again.
Uberset November 24, 2013, 11:46 PM EST.
As much as I think MikeXDaisy is cute, this is just so full of NO.
SnowyPaint November 24, 2013, 11:52 PM EST.
You can almost hear the pieces of Abbey’s heart hitting the floor. Is there any person here who doesn’t have issues of some kind?
Shade November 25, 2013, 1:30 AM EST.
I think Abbey will stay until the end of the party, make sure Daisy gets home safe and then just walk away to be alone for a while. And to think he seemed to view Paulo as a rival the whole time and it was Mike.
Niv November 25, 2013, 1:43 AM EST.
@Ravako - And a question asked in retrospect, whether it’s friend or not. Back then, she was all for him. Now she has Abbey and he has Sandy and she’s not ruining that. She’s just wondering why, all those years, he didn’t even take her as as close a friend as he seemed to be to Lucy. He only spent time with Daisy for studying, or group-trips. She never played games with him, or hung out at his house. They were never as close. Sandy showing up again only made him pay even LESS attention to her, and she was in the background to him unless she shoved herself in his face. Meanwhile, Lucy was always there until things got sour between them.
Zone November 25, 2013, 1:45 AM EST.
@Zone - I think that there is a little bit of jealousy there as well. I agree with you that Daisy wouldn’t want to harm Mike’s relationship with Sandy, nor that she would purposely hurt Abbey in any way, or wish true ill on Lucy. That doesn’t fit with her character. That said, though, we have seen evidence that she still carries a pretty big crush on Mike even while still being with Abbey. I can’t remember where, but there has been at least one occasion of her dreaming of Mike while sleeping with Abbey.
I think just about everyone who has had an unrequited attraction to someone asks themselves the same question that Daisy is asking, and being drunk can result in dredging up old emotions.
Shade November 25, 2013, 2:39 AM EST.
I think Amaya’s the only one that doesn’t have issues.
Rook November 25, 2013, 5:38 AM EST.
Mastakazam November 25, 2013, 5:43 AM EST.
;___; this is what i get for readin a comic for 48 hours!
UHG MY FEELS!
Why cant you all just make up ;——-; AND DAISY NEEDS TO QUIT.
;n; poor abby….omjomj…
Sirknight November 25, 2013, 7:04 AM EST.
Ah, the question she has always been wanting to ask! I wonder if she’ll finally be able to move on after this. Poor Abbey.
Also it’s good that Mike is finally getting to vent?
+bird+ November 25, 2013, 7:22 AM EST.
We can write if we want to
We can leave our friends behind
‘Cause your friends don’t write and if they don’t write then they aren’t no friends of mine
We can’t really be too sure of that, since it seems like Amaya is simply off to the side in most things anyway.
Mickey the Luxray November 25, 2013, 7:27 AM EST.
She has never slept with Abbey
Silveryogurt November 25, 2013, 7:48 AM EST.
And suddenly, 41 pages on this chapter.
Exile Reaper November 25, 2013, 7:50 AM EST.
I like how daises arms are all bundled up under mikes scarf
XsnowX November 25, 2013, 7:52 AM EST.
(Wont let me edit my comment grr)
While Lucy did not send Mike to the hospital with his bruises, those bitches hurt! I had a “friend” who decided they would make some insane excuse to break my ribs on multiple occasions because it was “the right thing to do,” they kicked me a lot as well and I have scars on my legs from it. While I didn’t give them a speech about how worthless they are, I definietly told them (after not speaking for months) that I was happier without them in my life and all I wanted from them was my Hunger Games book I let them borrow. [[Lol they still haven’t given it back. They have more of my stuff but I just want my books =___=]]
But anyway. Going home and lifting up your shirt/pantleg and seeing a bloody bruise that your supposed best friend inflicted upon you, and telling yourself “it’s nothing,” every day, feels a lot like betrayal. I can’t describe it. Its like, every time you’re falling asleep and you roll on that bruise, you think “why would they hurt me?? Ugh this sucks!” There really is no reason for a friend to abuse you. Yes, guys roughhouse, but typically they come out unscathed, because it is all for fun. Fun is not when your best friend is beating you up day in and day out because that’s how they show affection. And hey, this friend of mine was very convincing that what they were doing was “right,” that people “deserved it” when this person lashed out…. On multiple occasions, they randomly kicked and then scratched my boyfriend, because he said something they didn’t like. His arms are full of scars where chunks of his flesh were gouged out by nails. Should HE have sucked it up and laughed it off day after day?
I don’t necessarily agree with what Mike did. In fact, I highly disagree. But as far as Lucy goes, I can’t agree with her either. I can feel bad for her because she has had a LOT of **** handed to her, but her change in attitude was maybe too little too late. If I were Mike I can’t say I would have handled it all that differently.
Omg are you serious
Silveryogurt November 25, 2013, 8:10 AM EST.
I’m staying out of the previous comment shitstorm.
I will say that Daisy is semi-justified here. Mik just explained how “Woefully pitiful” his life is because of Lucy. And Daisy knows that Lucy wasn’t nice to her much either. So she asks him the question we’ve been reeling about in the comments, “So why do it? Choose her over all your other friends and continue to hang out with her.” I like that Daisy points out that he HAD A CHOICE. Heck he’s not even taking responsibility for willingly hanging out with Lucy for all those years.
On the other hand, Daisy IS speaking out of her past love for Mike. While she has a good reason to ask this question, it is debunked by an even more important reason that she IS TAKEN. It shouldn’t matter to her why he rejected her. SHE MOVED ON. With Abbey, appearently enough to want to bone him and get virginities involved.
And we see poor Abbey in the corner realizing that ironically, not matter what he does, HE will never be good enough for Daisy, despite how ****** Mike treats her.
Lickit&Stickit November 25, 2013, 10:02 AM EST.
I agree with the first half but actually I have a to disagree with the rest, yes she is taken but that doesn’t mean she moved on. Esp with the way they began their relationship I don’t even know how you could infer something like that. We never saw her say how it wouldn’t have worked out with Mike, or how she realizes she only liked Mike because of _____ and Abbey is much better. She has though constantly slipped up and mentioned Mike in such as way as to imply she still likes him. So I don’t see anything wrong with her asking albeit the WAY she is asking is pretty inappropriate, then again I couldn’t see her being bold enough to ask without a drink. I kinda feel bad for Abbey? I mean he knew she was in love with Mike so? She shouldn’t be saying this in front of him but I do think its a good thing because if she DID, ask Mike I doubt she’d be willing to tell him so at least he’ll know? ??? I dunno
:/ Really so if someone routinely (or I should say some GUY since girls hitting is just cute and adorable and in no way ever abusive ) gave you bruises, and a broken nose its cool? Wow I wonder why everyone flipped the hell out when Chris Brown did the same thing to Rihanna, I mean heck she was cool with it even got back together with him till the media/law forced them apart you’re right they must have been overreacting! Now if he had just verbally torn her apart then he should have been in jail forever! We all know one form of abuse is WAY worse then the other and just because you aren’t broken up/half dead it really isn’t even abuse because hitting is totes cool.
Seriously? I don’t care if Lucy is a girl hitting someone when they clearly don’t like it is abuse. It doesn’t matter what he said if someone makes you angry walk away, it does not give YOU or anyone license to turn them into a punching bag. Now that being said he had NO RIGHT to verbally murder her either, he could have walked away or not agreed to go back to his house (she TOO could have chosen not to go back to his house after he was ALREADY being so abrasive) and left it at that. Heck he could have simply said I don’t want to be your friend anymore leave me alone in fact I’ll just leave the table and left it at that. Now JUST because someone can empathize with a character does not MEAN they have to be just like them. If you’re going to go around blindly hating someone because they can understand or relate to Mikes situation then you’re being more then a little bit silly.
Samm-y November 25, 2013, 11:42 AM EST.
@Silveryougurt Maybe. :^ )
Exile Reaper November 25, 2013, 11:45 AM EST.
I didn’t quite write that the way I wanted to, but I meant that Daisy shouldn’t be asking. Because she has taken all the steps to show she has moved on. (And by asking, we learn that she hasn’t moved on, is still hung over Mike, and Abbey has to learn this too by the tacky way she has handled asking Mike.)
This is the main reason all the comments above are calling her a cheater, not because she really is cheating (that would first mean Mike had to like her back) but because she isn’t ready to be in a relationship with Abbey since she isn’t over Mike, but she is doing it anyway.
Emotionally cheating, because she’ll never be able to give herself to Abbey if she can’t stop pinning over Mike.
Lickit&stickit November 25, 2013, 11:53 AM EST.
Hmm I guess she is still emotionally cheating? But I still think asking is good if nothing else then to help her finally let go and honestly move on. At the same time I still don’t really see it totally as cheating because he KNEW she was in love with Mike. He knew she had never gotten over it and so did she they both we’re silly to just jump into a relationship just because it was there. Her because she wanted to be wanted and loved him because he liked her and imho wanted to be needed and be a protector. Its kinda like they just got together and tried to cover over the fact that she was still into him, just sort of ignore it and not talk about it much. I really think that in order for their relationship to grow (or mature) something like this had to eventually happen so she could finally let go, actually the best thing probably would have just been for them to leave the table. How can she really be expected to get over it when she is around him every day like that? She’s been emotionally cheating since day 1 lmbo. I feel a bit bad for him but, this isn’t really news to him he knew deep inside that she was still trying to get over it. She probably would have had a better chance getting over it if it had been Paulo.
Samm-y November 25, 2013, 12:05 PM EST.
@Mickey the Luxray
True but if we’re going to ask who hasn’t been affected by their own personal drama in the comics out of everyone in the room right now, I think it would be a tie between Amaya, David and maybe Sue.
While we know that Amaya’s still….slowly merging in with the main cast, we know that the other two have been part of the main cast for awhile/since the beginning. So….um, how to put this…I know that the reasons why for David and Sue is because for David it was…for being David and for Sue it’s because she just recently became part of the main cast….though now that I think about it, these two are not only part of the main cast but they seem to be the only ones that has yet to have their own arc where they mature a bit. I mean, yeah they may have had a chapter or two but really that’s it from what I can remember.
Rook November 26, 2013, 11:15 AM EST.
Omigosh daisy. U know NOTHING. NOTHINGGGGGGGG ;-;
jocelyn November 28, 2013, 6:22 AM EST.
You know what I’ve realized that I believe has been lost amongst the Lucy and Mike hatred? How much people should hate Daisy. All she is, all she ever has been, is an instigator. She keeps growing that hatred Mike has had for Lucy in the past that Sandy accidentally planted. She keeps pointing out the flaws and comparing herself to Lucy for Mike to see. Not only does that **** me off but the way she treats Abbey is absolutely despicable. Abbey loves Daisy but that’s not enough for her. She needs everyone to love her, even the guy who tried to rape her. She gets insanely jealous when any guy who showed her any attention begins to like or pay attention someone else, namely Lucy. Abbey is trying to help her and be a supportive boyfriend but in all honesty, he’d be better off without her. True he needed her for his therapy but now all he’s doing is watching on the sidelines knowing that Daisy will never love him like she loves Mike. I hate girls like Daisy and I’m amazed that I haven’t seen as much hate as she deserves for the type of underhanded person she is. I really wish there is a chapter where Abbey or Sue or Paulo or ANYONE just tells Daisy off.
Also to those of you who think Lucy was too rough with Mike. Just remember how kids show they like each other. They tease and sometimes bully the person they like. Mike never cared until Sandy accidentally planted the seed of hatred in Mike’s mind. Then Mike took it way too far and began to almost terrorize Lucy with his comments and his passive aggressive remarks.
From what I can see Lucy was just the victim of things she still doesn’t fully understand and when the only person you ever trusted tells you that you’re worth nothing it’s understandable to go off the deep end.
Just a wanderer November 30, 2013, 2:28 PM EST.
I’d be into Mike to if my only other options were a bland sexist and a rapist. *ahem*
Yes January 6, 2014, 9:49 PM EST.
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