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Comment ID #113859

Darkstrife October 29, 2010, 11:35 AM EST.

Comment ID #113860

Welcome to America.

sammy October 29, 2010, 11:37 AM EST.

Comment ID #113866

That’s pretty unusual! The case law (and legislation..? can’t remember the CLA) here is pretty clear on capacity and it aligns with the typical criminal limitation stuff (under the age of 12 can’t be liable)

Obviously it’s a bit of a freak case as this woman died due to the 4 year old’s actions. I guess it was too remote for them to try going after the mother so they’re doing this novel thing and targeting the kid instead?

SuitCase October 29, 2010, 11:56 AM EST.

Comment ID #113868

I’m just waiting for a public outcry over this…

Darkstrife October 29, 2010, 12:01 PM EST.

Comment ID #113872

Can you really say it was the kid’s fault she died though? I mean, she was 84…

Ubertoast October 29, 2010, 12:17 PM EST.

Comment ID #113875

Well, Uber, they did run her over.

Senpai October 29, 2010, 12:26 PM EST.

Comment ID #113876

true, but it was 3 weeks later she died… not saying this didn’t contribute, but…

Ubertoast October 29, 2010, 12:32 PM EST.

Comment ID #113879

This is meaningless. ^_^

ILB October 29, 2010, 12:55 PM EST.

Comment ID #113886

Pfsh, that’s ridiculous, and besides what do they even want from it? Compensation? That’s clearly going to help you deal with someone dying isn’t it now.

Like the girl can even supply any kind of money?

Not responsible IMO, but hey good luck to both sides :P

Cloud October 29, 2010, 1:22 PM EST.

Comment ID #113902

They’re going to put it in timeout for a week and sell its toys on eBay.

No, seriously, what series of failures in the American civil court allows this fuckwit a judgeship? And what is an 87-year-old woman doing outside in the first place? You go outside in that condition, you’re rolling some loaded die.

Snake eyes, bitch.

J. Vincero (Jerk) October 29, 2010, 2:32 PM EST.

Comment ID #113920

There seems to be alot of idiots in that position jerk

Treeless Druid October 29, 2010, 3:21 PM EST.

Comment ID #113932

Well, it is a bit terrifying…
To sue childs of that age is a bit stupid since they aren’t able to realize what the hell are doing, if there was someone to be sued it should be their mother (guessing she didn’t tried to slow them down or to recall them back from their race), but if we put blame on their mother we should put blame on the old woman’s relative too since it isn’t wise to let go a such old woman alone (especially if she is fragile enough to be subject to death by the injuries of a 4 years old child on a bike, provided were the injuries that killed her).
With the information wich that webpage gives is impossible to make up an opinion on whose the “guilt” is, I would call it an unfortunate accident.

Demone della Luce October 29, 2010, 3:46 PM EST.

Comment ID #114007

Sueing a 4-year old on a bike…what exactly does the plantiff hope to accomplish here? (I mean they win the case they get the 4-year olds bike…?)

(nameless) October 29, 2010, 7:31 PM EST.

Comment ID #114010

*looks at topic title*

*looks at topic icon*

Hehe. “Sue’d”.

@nameless
Put under house arrest or probation (or anything that puts her in boundaries) would probably be more realistic.

SkylineFaux October 29, 2010, 7:34 PM EST.

Comment ID #114013

So legally ground the kid? She’s going to have a very interesting childhood.

(nameless) October 29, 2010, 7:38 PM EST.

Comment ID #114015

But from what I gathered, they tried to sue the parents for negligence as well. I (strangely) cannot access the article right now, but it seemed to me that all four were defendants.

That does not diminish the lunacy of the case, though.

ILB October 29, 2010, 7:39 PM EST.

Comment ID #114022

Indeed

Demone della Luce October 29, 2010, 7:46 PM EST.

Comment ID #114074

She died 3 months later, not weeks

fff October 29, 2010, 9:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #114179

She died 3 months later, and it was apparently from unrelated causes.

Still. The argument that a child of 4 or 5 could conceivably know the danger of running across a road is hardly grounds to claim that said child could be negligent.

Sounds to me like a grieving family that is looking to place blame on anyone they can. I’d say the woman herself didn’t consider it a case worth pursuing.

I feel bad for the kid, having to have memories of sitting in court and being accused and under scrutiny from a whole host of scary adult strangers. I imagine it would be quite traumatizing.

Maverik October 30, 2010, 12:46 AM EST.

Comment ID #114200

The child isn’t even of the age to understand consequences. She has absolutely no grasp of X causes Y so she doesn’t even understand that going fast could lead to trouble. It takes a child till about the age of 7 to start to grasp consequences. A 4 year old does not deserve to be the blame for a death when she herself cannot even grasp the concept. The fact that the judge even let this case be considered is a shame to the justice system.
Also this NYT article has a lot of good comments on this subject:
http://community.nytimes.com/comments/ www.nytimes.com/2010/10/29/nyregion/29young.html

Treeless Druid October 30, 2010, 1:09 AM EST.

Comment ID #114242

I’m pretty sure this wouldn’t have been brought to court had the grandmother lived.

ANinnyMouse October 30, 2010, 2:53 AM EST.

Comment ID #114345

Yeah, but whenever someone terrible like the person during this child gas a chance they will jump on it if they can get money , it’s sick tbh

Treeless Druid October 30, 2010, 12:50 PM EST.

Comment ID #114346

Sueing*(during); has*(gas)

Treeless Druid October 30, 2010, 12:51 PM EST.

Comment ID #114351

This would never have happened in France. ¬-¬

sammy October 30, 2010, 1:03 PM EST.

Comment ID #114377

Idk there seems to be a population of doucebags in every society, no matter where you go. Unfortunately in this case the judge was also part of that population

Treeless Druid October 30, 2010, 3:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #114404

@ sammy: Are we talking about the country that arbitrarily banned ethnic garb muslim women or the country that throws a nation-crippling strike once a week because all its citizens are entitled drama queens?

J. Vincero (Jerk) October 30, 2010, 3:46 PM EST.

Comment ID #114410

And the country that has….Parisians *shudder*

Treeless Druid October 30, 2010, 3:56 PM EST.

Comment ID #114489

Parisiens sont putains.

J. Vincero (Jerk) October 30, 2010, 6:53 PM EST.

Comment ID #114508

“Paris is wonderful except for the Parisians”

Treeless Druid October 30, 2010, 7:26 PM EST.

Comment ID #114512

Somebody tell me how many places/people(s) that has been said about. ^_^

ILB October 30, 2010, 7:35 PM EST.

Comment ID #114556

Whatever place i’m currently at XD

Treeless Druid October 30, 2010, 8:30 PM EST.

Comment ID #114557

Well, it would be like that, I guess. ^_^

ILB October 30, 2010, 8:35 PM EST.

Comment ID #116024

Why is this wrong? Why does the age of the defendant matter? If someone’s dog bites someone, you can hold the owner responsible; in this case, how responsible is the child? Is it a person, or an extension of the parent?

In either event the parents will likely end up responsible for it monetarily.

I really have no sympathy for people being really young and getting off easy.

And the people who are saying that just because she is 87 she should stay inside are being silly. Old people are still people too; there’s no reason they should be confined indoors, and it is not unreasonable for them to expect to be able to walk down the sidewalk without being rammed by someone on a bicycle.

Titanium Dragon November 1, 2010, 7:28 AM EST.

Comment ID #116081

See now….she’s 4. She doesn’t understand anything that’s even happening to her. The estate of the lady needs to stop trying to Blane others for accidents, because they are accidents!. If thus woman was that old she should have had an aid to help her and prevent thus from happening. It’s sick that someone would even think of sueing a 4 year old

Treeless Druid November 1, 2010, 11:32 AM EST.

Comment ID #116090

I agree with most of what you say, Titanium, but really, if she is a mere four years old there is no point in suing her. One does not sue the tree that fell and crushed one’s house.

If this girl gave the old woman enough damages to hospitalise her, then that is not a good thing. But really, it is meaningless to throw a case against a four year old child no matter what has gone down. Those parents, maybe, but if the death occurred three months later I think it is a long stretch either way. ^_^

ILB November 1, 2010, 11:59 AM EST.

Comment ID #116461

Plus it was actually confirmed that the woman’s death was’nt related to the accident.

Ubertoast November 1, 2010, 9:42 PM EST.

Comment ID #116492

I don’t think old people should stay inside. I think they should be euthanized.

J. Vincero (Jerk) November 1, 2010, 10:21 PM EST.

Comment ID #116518

I think she should just get grounded much simpler

Yesi November 1, 2010, 10:59 PM EST.

Comment ID #116646

Suitcase says:
“this woman died due to the 4 year old’s actions.”

Real life says:
“She died three months later of unrelated causes.”


Yep.

entertained November 2, 2010, 1:16 AM EST.

Comment ID #116848

May I ask you how that would do any good, Johnny? I mean, generally something to that effect happens around the age of fifty. ^_^

ILB November 2, 2010, 9:54 AM EST.

Comment ID #116854

Not often enough.

Jerk November 2, 2010, 10:06 AM EST.

Comment ID #116855

Oh well. It is biology. ^_^

ILB November 2, 2010, 10:13 AM EST.

Comment ID #118204

*Face palm of doom*

Ark November 4, 2010, 1:54 AM EST.

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