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Comment ID #58285

Goodness there are alot now.
Oh well

SmashFiles July 10, 2010, 8:32 PM EST.

Comment ID #58320

Posted image
ITT we give reasons why the admins shouldn’t make money off something they worked hard for.

Bread July 10, 2010, 11:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #58325

Point made. Why the image though? Can’t see much wrong there, myself.

Yappy July 10, 2010, 11:21 PM EST.

Comment ID #58337

So far, they’re not making much, but that’s why I put them everywhere they’d fit. I want to see just how much they can make. This is all subject to revision.

SuitCase July 11, 2010, 12:14 AM EST.

Comment ID #58340

Experimentation’s the only way to go with stuff like this. On a positive note, might I congratulate you guys on your PW ads breaching $10/day? Not quite retiring money, sure, but pretty impressive this early in the game. :P

Yappy July 11, 2010, 12:28 AM EST.

Comment ID #58421

I hate online ads. All they do to me is make me want to add snarky comments to them.

I got ripped in 4 weeks.
So you’re a cheap t-shirt?

How many zebras do you see?
None, just a whole lot of steak.

Lose weight following this 1 simple rule.
Stop eating.

How many squares do you see in this image?
Put a picture of my boss in there and I’ll see one.

So on and so forth. Freakin’ driving me crazy.

PenultimateQuestion July 11, 2010, 8:21 AM EST.

Comment ID #58423

Maybe we could harness the power of your comedy to generate $10+ CPM in revenue.

SuitCase July 11, 2010, 8:27 AM EST.

Comment ID #58425

How targeted are these ads, out of curiosity? They seem fairly generic.

Titanium Dragon July 11, 2010, 8:58 AM EST.

Comment ID #58427

Why do you love your Toyota Carolla? Tell us your story.
Well this one time, at the demolition derby…

We got crazy mad shirts yo!
I think Yo would prefer some shirts that are only slightly perturbed.

This is the end.
Nooooo. The top of the page is the beginning.

How many eyes does she have?
Enough to give me nightmares.

SuitCase, take what you want, I’ve got more than enough crazy to go around.

PenultimateQuestion July 11, 2010, 9:08 AM EST.

Comment ID #58438

@yappy that ad is ridiculous, that’s all.

The problem i posted is fixed now(The real one).

Bread July 11, 2010, 10:47 AM EST.

Comment ID #58441

They’re almost completely generic. They seem to be somewhat region-based when they feel like it, for example I saw an Optus (Australian phone company) ad a few times. Overall they look non-targeted, though maybe IMVU is aware of some of our demographic..?

Anyway, wow! Technorati sure isn’t too bad on this first day. Our pageviews are inflated at the moment as we’re gathering new readers with an expensive ad campaign, but together with Project Wonderful, right now we’re making something like $30 a day. That’s alarmingly close to our $50\day target already!

SuitCase July 11, 2010, 11:09 AM EST.

Comment ID #58451

I’m seeing blank boxes here. And I don’t even have AdBlock.

:D

SkylineFaux July 11, 2010, 12:19 PM EST.

Comment ID #58456

That’s unusual. Is Javascript disabled? Do the Project Wonderful ads show up? The only reason you should get blank boxes are either because you block the Technorati Media Javascript, or if it is still loading (I delay ads to load after the page loads, so as not to increase page load times)

SuitCase July 11, 2010, 12:29 PM EST.

Comment ID #58457

The ads so far on Chrome are fine. No odd graphic mishaps. :)

Mae July 11, 2010, 12:32 PM EST.

Comment ID #58472

@SuitCase
No ads are showing up at all here. And no, Javascript is enabled. I still get ads elsewhere, just not here. Weird.

SkylineFaux July 11, 2010, 2:07 PM EST.

Comment ID #58478

Yeah, it is weird. I’m not sure what to say. It should work. I would imagine you have some kind of ad blocking going.

SuitCase July 11, 2010, 2:21 PM EST.

Comment ID #58493

It could just be my internet connection, but sometimes i just get boxes. This only happens about 12.5% of the time though, so no worries! annnnnd, a lot of the ads are retarded, do you choose which ads get show, or is it randomness dictated by project wonderful?

DritchJaul (Pyrotwister) July 11, 2010, 2:58 PM EST.

Comment ID #58499

Project Wonderful don’t do the ads except for the horizontal one at the top and the two at the bottom. I have no choice over what is displayed by Technorati.

SuitCase July 11, 2010, 3:21 PM EST.

Comment ID #58844

Oh! Scratch that! When going through the Liam comic in Chrome I saw this: Borked.

I don’t know if it’s on any of the other comic pages though, or if this is just my own stuff messing up.

Just checked using Internet Explorer: Uh-oh! Again, don’t know if this is just me.

Mae July 12, 2010, 8:16 AM EST.

Comment ID #58856

Maybe you need to refresh the page layout? I’m not seeing that.

Titanium Dragon July 12, 2010, 9:02 AM EST.

Comment ID #58859

It only happens when there are too few comments to provide space for the ad, and I fixed it now with an if statement anyway. But thanks!

SuitCase July 12, 2010, 9:13 AM EST.

Comment ID #58897

So are the newer ads also done by time displayed, or are they CPM or CPC?

Yappy July 12, 2010, 11:55 AM EST.

Comment ID #58947

CPM. So it vaguely hurts if you block them, but not enough for us to care. (For those of you who don’t understand CPM\CPC, CPM means we get paid per view, CPC means we get paid per click. So there’s an incentive for you to click if we ever put up CPC ads, but that’s not planned.)

SuitCase July 12, 2010, 2:58 PM EST.

Comment ID #59016

Fair enough. I’m happy enough to unblock ‘em anyway. Still, there’s no way I’m clicking the Technorati ones - most of the ones I’m seeing seem extremely dodgy. :P

Yappy July 12, 2010, 7:52 PM EST.

Comment ID #59189

Learn how to get ripped in 4 weeks!
I can tell you how: Steroids

MiwAuturu July 13, 2010, 12:48 PM EST.

Comment ID #59297

The ads slow the loading a bit, but it’s still bearable.

Pronkat July 13, 2010, 7:23 PM EST.

Comment ID #59353

@ Yappy: Its really hard for me to believe that people click on half the ads I see on the net, but then I realize how big Facebook is.

Titanium Dragon July 14, 2010, 12:11 AM EST.

Comment ID #59356

Play free online games.
Nah, I’m just looking for the free online porn.

PenultimateQuestion July 14, 2010, 12:37 AM EST.

Comment ID #61260

I am still having trouble transferring to Burst Media, but check it out! I think I’ve finally settled on the mix of ads we’re going to have. I removed the two banners at the bottom of the page, and figured out a way of fitting one next to the comic view page you see as you browse the archive. I know it’s a little distracting there, but the archive accounts for 70% of our hits so it’ll really help to have an extra tower ad there, especially as it meets Burst’s specifications.

So, uh, let me know if ads are giving you any problems, or if you have any thoughts or opinions.

SuitCase July 19, 2010, 2:19 PM EST.

Comment ID #61276

MiwAuturu would know. He’s fucking huge! D:

J. Vincero (Jerk) July 19, 2010, 2:55 PM EST.

Comment ID #61822

Nevermind! o.o Please return to what you were doing!

Mae July 21, 2010, 1:47 AM EST.

Comment ID #61969

So Burst got themselves sorted out, and I added them to the top leaderboard and beside-comic-viewer spots. Burst is right now serving a lot of PSAs and survey ads, but soon they’ll start filling them with better ones (it takes a few days.)

The next week should be very interesting! And hopefully lucrative.

SuitCase July 21, 2010, 3:45 AM EST.

Comment ID #62526

I just had my first pop-up from BCB. Well, strictly it was a “fixed” element scrolling with (and partly obscuring) the screen, but close enough.

Something called Crowd Science insisting that the owners of this website were conducting site research on their readers. It wasn’t SuitCase branded so I ignored it, but it was still pretty convincing. Is this actually yours, Souppy? Or is one of your advertisers getting a bit eager?

Yappy July 22, 2010, 3:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #62529

Oh, how interesting. Keep screenshots of that stuff, and check the domain of who it links to (it’ll be burst, technoratimedia or projectwonderful). I assume it was Burst, finally serving some ads. I can do things to ensure there are no popups and things, but I haven’t enabled all of that because I wasn’t sure what actually counted as “intrusive” advertising.

Did you click on it to make that all happen? Or just mouse over?

SuitCase July 22, 2010, 3:05 PM EST.

Comment ID #62530

Nope. Just popped up while I was browsing the forum. I was reading it over when it faded away again.

I’ll let you know my findings if I come across it again.

Yappy July 22, 2010, 3:13 PM EST.

Comment ID #62860

I think I got this elusive ad on film. Now our viewers at home can see it in its natural habitat.
Screenshot
I don’t know why it appears, must be random or something. Disappeared pretty quickly though, maybe in half a minute.

Fizmat July 23, 2010, 6:49 AM EST.

Comment ID #62880

Yep, that’s the bunny. Awful sneaky for an ad; you could imagine a legitimate surveymonkey popup appearing in much the same way.

Yappy July 23, 2010, 8:35 AM EST.

Comment ID #62919

It’s not all that nefarious, to be honest. I get the feeling filling out some of those surveys will result in better ads being served here. It’s up to you if you want to serve them.

I will look into this more when I see one of the popups myself. For the time being I hope they’re ignorable. I can turn them off with some scripting tweaks, I think!

SuitCase July 23, 2010, 12:30 PM EST.

Comment ID #62923

They’re very rare and not really intrusive, just sitting there in the corner for a while. I vote for leaving them be. Maybe next time one appears I’ll click it to see what the quiz is about.

Fizmat July 23, 2010, 12:37 PM EST.

Comment ID #62982

Agreed. I’ll give it a chance once.

Yappy July 23, 2010, 3:28 PM EST.

Comment ID #65352

I send you an issue ticket. Bug 021. When you are on any page of the comic (except for the actual page), the left navigation arrow seems to be missing.

PROOF

P.D. For my misfortune, this page that i opened was a bit…NSFW…and i was at work…i saw it since it was the first page that 5ony saw…and while i was editing the pic to show the issue, some guys saw me…so…yeah…may be in trouble…

Laters…

Frustrated Writer July 27, 2010, 2:35 PM EST.

Comment ID #65358

Yes, I removed the previous page arrow. Did you expect it to be weirdly overlaid on the page border? Do you not see how I had limited horizontal space?

SuitCase July 27, 2010, 2:38 PM EST.

Comment ID #65365

Yes i did see the limited space, but i thought that you may apply some mouse over code over the comic and make there the back command (using some javascript).

Frustrated Writer July 27, 2010, 2:47 PM EST.

Comment ID #65404

back at fizmats elusive ad, I clicked it, and it just asked my age, i gave it, then suddenly the test was over >.>

DritchJaul (Pyrotwister) July 27, 2010, 3:38 PM EST.

Comment ID #65607

I think it’d be uncouth to make something outside of tr page boundaries clickable. It would betray expectations.

SuitCase July 27, 2010, 9:38 PM EST.

Comment ID #65608

Um. Double problems with the archive ads, actually. If you look at the left side of the comic in FW’s post, the main image sprawls over into the tinted border.

If you’re going to allow the comic to stretch out that far, why not mirror its sprawl with the advert, giving yourself a little room for an ultra-slimline back button? Or I guess you could widen the centrecol div, although I don’t know what cans of worms that would open.

Yappy July 27, 2010, 9:42 PM EST.

Comment ID #65627

You try it. I couldn’t get it to work in any reasonable way. I agree that the off-centre positioning is not ideal, but there’s a 10px spillover amount I needed to find a place for (as the site’s width is 950, comics are 800 and ads are 160) and I figured the current layout to be the nicest way of arranging things. I cannot expand the layout (980 is already pushing it in my opinion) without modifying the gardient borders, which I thought would look inconsistent and upsetting. The primary concerns I had were that the edges of the gradient borders (currently 15px) would look bad if I overlapped them to certain degrees, and that if a previous button was not obvious enough, it shouldn’t be there as it might confuse people.

I did consider a smaller Previous arrow above the current big Next one, but couldn’t get them in proportion and figured the utility of it wasn’t enough to justify making the scroll distance to get to a clickable “next” button even longer.

I welcome any sensible alternatives, but mock it up first as I think you’ll find it’s hard to create 10px of horizontal space in a way that doesn’t look off-putting.

SuitCase July 27, 2010, 10:25 PM EST.

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