Bittersweet Candy Bowl

Oh you guys.
You and your points of view.
They make me laugh.
Even if I can’t be bothered to read them.

FEAR THE JEWS DAMNIT!

It will?
Oh I’m so proud.
This is that happiest day of my life ; ____ ;

I’m surprised we even have time for religion nowawdays. With the busy lifestyles we have I know that’s the reason why my parents began to drop off the religious radar and take me with them. Admittedly I always found church boring and I’d rather not contemplate the implications of afterlife anyways.

I grew up in an almost completely religion free environment until about a year ago. I bloomed into a tiny atheist at age 12. Also, you folks defending how AWESOME religion is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

religion has caused more wars and killed more people then anything else
someone attempt to prove me wrong

Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. There. ^_^

@SuitCase: I believe you are wrong. Agnostic parents would do the same thing, only with different methods. Say, someone who is taken to church by his or her Christian parents every Sunday as a part of their upbringing is no worse off than someone who is not taken to church*. The lack of a standpoint is also a standpoint, that is a fact. Someone who puts themselves in the middle (to use a far less powerful image, “I like both Pepsi and Coke&rdquo, still has an opinion. And there is no truth in the notion that someone who is kept completely away from religious influence will have a wider range to choose from; they’re just playing in another field, so to speak.

I realise that “agnosticism” more commonly refers to people who cannot choose (“I don’t know whether I like Pepsi or Coke the best&rdquo. But to be fair, no one person is without an opinion. There will be some degree of influence on the child no matter what. Or, if the strange instance should occur that someone actually isn’t coloured by that view, that is just as rare as the religious parents who manage with the explicit disclaimer of which you speak. And not any more correct, either.

*To have an equal upbringing which lets a child choose on its own, it would have to go through all the religions, mythologies, ethics and world views in the world before reaching 10 years of age. A parent simply could not take his or her son or daughter to see all of that. It would simply be impossible to give it an insight into all the different variations of Judaism, let alone the other religions.

@ whf:
Religious Intolerance has indeed caused more wars than anything else, and therein lies the problem. The simple fact of the matter is that people have different views, be it religion or something else, and no matter what the views may be, there will be fights over them. The unfortunate fact is that human being as a species are rather intolerent of views which contradict their own.

Besides, more often than not it is actually greed that caused the war, and the leaders are hiding behind religion to justify themselves, so if religion didn’t eist, they would have simply found something else to hide behind.

Hey, what do you know, you’ll have to continue this discussion without me. Because I am leaving on my study trip soon. So I will see you guys in August sometime.

Yes, I know this is rather mean but I have to go now. ^_^ We’ll meet again.

anything that tells me its wrong to touch myself can go to hell and die.

besides, the pope looks too much like Emperor Palpatine for me to trust him :p

http://darkdemon.org/viewtopic.php? f=28&t=55637&start=0

This is the reason this thread should not exist.
Ever

I’m agnostic, atheism is too depressing & every organized religion I’ve seen suffers from the fact that it is an organized religion.

according to some fundamentalists I met a while ago, you are a weak, powerless and enfeebled sack of shit if you do not accept jesus into your life (my summary of what they said), they put the “mental” in fundamentalist!

@ILB:
you know hitler killed the jews right
do you know why he killed the jews
because they were jewish

@mib:
correct

@ whf: Right, but he equated their religion with race and was more concerned with racial purity than religious.

jewish isnt a race!¡!¡!¡

Indeed it is, but Hitler saw it as a race and in this scenario that’s what matters.

Once upon a time, Jewish WAS a race. It still SORT OF is… Since the “True Jewish Bloodline” is supposedly passed down through the mother. But since people CAN convert, it’s become a mixture of blood Jews and choice Jews.

EDIT: Haha… Choice Jews sounds like Choice Cut Beef to me ^^;

yeah but it doesnt matter if he thought they were a race or not because it comes down to the fact that he killed them because he thought they were jewish
facts:
judaism is a religion
grass is green
this thread shouldnt exist

@whf
You’re just butthurt that YOU didn’t start the controversial topic.

Controversy = HEATHEN IMHO

You know…I’m actually a Christian myself, and I enjoy good natured religious debates as much as the next person. Even so, I’m going to agree with the people who think this thread shouldn’t even be here. Because, from what I’ve seen elsewhere, this sort of thing can devolve really fast. I wouldn’t be too surprised if the fallout affects the rest of the forum.

It may not happen, but I’m just sayin’.

no im not cuz i dont like controversial topics believe it or not
but i have a serious dislike for religion threads cuz it is the same shit every time

HEY GUYS GOD AINT REAL
YEAH HE IS
NO HE ISNT
WELL YOURE WRONG AND HERES WHY *gives textwall of reasoning*
YOUR LOGIC IS FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED AND HERES WHY *responding textwall*
I AGREE WITH WHAT YOURE SAYING BUT ACTUALLY I BELIEVE *textwall of text text text*

etc etc etc until someone decides to troll (it always happens)

spoilers: people are incredibly stubborn about this sort of thing and no matter how many textwalls you type up opposing someones argument on what religion is or isnt, you are always wrong because nothing can be factually proved or disproved and if someone is religious/ not religious they are probably very confident in their belief and will probably ignore someone elses BLINDNESS TO THE TRUTH

it is just a very dull and monotonous argument and im sick of hearing it

Jebus, this is becoming one hell of a mess, isn’t it? Hell, I have first hand experience of what religion can do to people. A friend of mine goes paranoid one week, and he starts getting rid of most of his stuff, saying they were all gifts from the devil! It started with his Email, then his MySpace, Facebook, almost everything he had on the internet. Then, it came to the point that he took his real life stuff, books, CDs, movies, even a stack of poker cards, and he burned all of it! (all, except his Xbox, and his computer. Those two things, he wouldn’t even touch.) He even showed me pictures of the piile of ashes he created.

And this is why I think going to church too much can screw with you.

I completely agree with whf on this one. And that’s the basic premise of a debate about anything controversial.

I figured, “As long as we’re going to post retarded threads tonight, let’s go ahead and get it all out at once.”

This thread is over. Let it die.

teh sora is too cool to read threads

Ok. I haven’t read this whole thread, and personally I feel its a horrible idea to even have it up here. But, being Jewish by birth (tho not by belief) I’ve seen some names and events mentioned, and I think it is important to go a head and put a few things straight.

First. Yes, the disaster attributed to Hitler did indeed happen, just in case there are any deniers out there, stop fooling yourselves. It was a horrible thing.

Second. The Jewish people are a indeed a race. The bloodline is passed down from mother to child.

Third. Yes you can convert, but it’s not so simple as just saying you accept the faith. It takes years of dedicated study, and serious testing. You have to know the Jewish history inside and out. You have to know the Jewish faith inside and out. It is bloody difficult to actually convert in any meaningful capacity. “Choice Jews” doesn’t even begin to do justice to the effort it takes.

With THAT mess out of the way…

I am not a Jew (by belief), Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Bhuddist, Wiccan, Pagan, Scientologist, Shamanist, etc…

NOR am I an Athiest.

I have seen and heard all manner of arguments, beliefs, “proofs”, and so on.

There is only one constant that I have ever found. No one, and I mean NO ONE , has the authority, or knowledge, to say for sure who is right and who is wrong. No Rabbi, Priest, Pope, Shaman, Witch, Scientist, or average John or Jane Doe, has ever, or will ever be able to provide 100% positive proof of the truth or falsehood of any belief. There is no artifact in the world that can put an end to the argument. There are no magic words that once heard will enlighten everyone.

Religion is (in my opinion), in all its myriad forms, nothing more or less than faith. It is a way for the human race, in its limited capacity to understand the world around it, to come to terms with existence.

And before you get down on me as being anti religious I will also point out that science is no better off in terms of concrete answers. For all we know, someone will make a break through tomorrow morning that will unravel everything science thinks it knows. So no, pure logic is no better.

With that said. I personally believe in no higher SENTIENT power. I do however believe there is a driving force out there that is far greater than we will ever be able to fully understand. A God, supreme alien race, flying Italian dish monster, etc, is just a bit hard to swallow.

I am a faithful member of the cult of the flying spaghetti monster, personally.

“I haven’t read this whole thread”
and in this lies your problem

“personally I feel its a horrible idea to even have it up here”
yes we have already established this thank you for your time

and now for a silly comic!!!!

ok just imagine it

@whf

I actually read more than half of this entire thread, and it basically revolved around the same answers. thus, i just read the 12 latest comments, and decided, “why the hell not tell them what I know religion can do to people?” and there was my reply… so NO ASSUMPTIONS HERE, ok? you dont want me to post the assumption song, now, do you?

whf

I can almost appreciate your concise, if somewhat snarky, remarks.

I know the horrible idea issue had been established. I’m a bit let down that it hadn’t been brought up within the first 10 posts or so however. I wanted to throw my own two cents in.

And why read the whole thread? If you’ve been to one “who believes what” discussion, you’ve been to them all.

Edit: Looks like someone else jumped in before my own post was finished.

whf, you might want to work on your phrasing a bit. Some folks seem a bit miffed at you.

sorry about that, jay

edit edit: i am a dick sorry

never liked religion. i was was born a Christian, but i had to look back and see that the Christians started many religious wars (except Hitler, etc, etc.).

honestly, i don’t really believe in a “God”,but only the whole “creator” part.

One opinion: two cents. Buy one, get nine free.

why is it users on this site are so eager to voice their opinions without even briefly scanning the threads they are posting in
the reply window is at the bottom of the page for a reason guys

edit: im a complete hypocrite and should be shot sorry guys

Nothing to apologize for Teh Sora.

Same for you whf.

If anything, we should all be excused for being completely out of our normal characters in this thread.

Anyhoo. Back to sitting in the Edited BCB Comic’s thread and hitting the refresh key as rapidly as possible.

<3

Back to normal. KILL THREAD NOW.

i’m an Atheist,but i’m not one of these “neo Atheists” you got now.
i feel no need to prove to religious people that their wrong.
as we say here in isreal “tzadik baamoonato ikiah”
“the just man by his own faith shall live.”

way to bump a thread that was better off dead oddguy

way to bump the bump whf

way to use a deviantart smiley scarfninja

I know right?

i wasn’t home for a week !

I have a t-shirt that says “I Became a Rastafarian, because I couldn’t afford to be a Scientologist”. Never have truer words been spoken…