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Comment ID #54442

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(lucy, michael, sandy, daisy, paulabbey)

For those of you don’t know this it’s basically the animu bcb.

We just watched it (well, skipping about 10 filler episodes) and it was pretty bad in my opinion! It had a few good moments but the ending was unsatisfying and a lot of it felt like ADORABLE FLAWED GIRL DESU LET ME RESCUE YOU otaku fetish material that really kind of let me down. I didn’t suffer the whole episode 8 letdown, I thought a romance between the two could be nice even if conventional, but the ending wasn’t satisfying and it all went a bit gay.

This is probably how BCB would end if we didn’t spend a lot of time making sure the ending was perfect, really. I think that’s unfair to people who invest so much in the characters.

ANYWAY, HAS ANYONE HERE SEEN THIS SHOW??? It would probably appeal to you, even though I can’t wholeheartedly recommend it even though I kinda wish Taiga, Minorin and Yasuko were mai waifus.

SuitCase July 5, 2010, 2:12 PM EST.

Comment ID #54443

:C I loved ToraDora…

Leaving a Comment July 5, 2010, 2:16 PM EST.

Comment ID #54452

BANIRA

SORUTO DE

BURNING LOVE

I’m not as disappointed as Souppy, to be honest.. but I felt really really really really really sympathetic towards Minorin and kind of found Taiga really annoying. I guess her “trauma” didn’t pull at my heartstrings at all.. and Minorin seems like such an awesome girl that she deserves happiness ;__;

Oh man and modelbitch is pretty cool too

who cares about glassesloser why did taiga like him so much

Taeshi July 5, 2010, 2:23 PM EST.

Comment ID #54454

I loved Minorin and I hated her ending, she deserved something better than that.

Leaving a Comment July 5, 2010, 2:25 PM EST.

Comment ID #54467

That’s part of why it’s so gay. She gets left out when she was really genuinely nice the whole time.

I don’t think that’s a flaw with how they treat her and more the fact she has to exist. She was such a sympathetic cutesy character that there’s no way but to be upset about how she loses out. This is why I think Toradora is mediocre, Taiga and Minorin and even modelbitch are made out too perfect and wonderful than they really should be, and so it isn’t as emotionally engaging or as interesting as it should be.

SuitCase July 5, 2010, 2:36 PM EST.

Comment ID #54469

But at the same time you come to love the characters over the course of the show and even if they are to cutesy, that is one of the reasons they are so appealing, especially to girls.

Lily Vanderpoint July 5, 2010, 2:38 PM EST.

Comment ID #54472

You started this thread just because you wanted to rant about Toradora. Shame on you Suitcase!

-_- July 5, 2010, 2:40 PM EST.

Comment ID #54489

Yeah, but if it makes for an unsatisfying payoff, you aren’t attached to the characters in the long run because they become unsatisfying and too perfect.

And yeah, I did! What of it?

SuitCase July 5, 2010, 2:55 PM EST.

Comment ID #54490

On the contray, I still found myself attracted to them and thought the payoff of the show was more than the cost, even if it could have been better and not so much, “Urgh we can’t be together but we can but we can’t! Wah!”

Leaving a comment July 5, 2010, 2:57 PM EST.

Comment ID #54491

tooooold youuuuu

I knew it even though i haven’t seen the anime yet |D

Lisa July 5, 2010, 2:57 PM EST.

Comment ID #54499

“And yeah, I did! What of it?” -SuitCase

I was hoping for a vastly more infuriated and long-winded reply because I find that you’re funny when you’re angry.

Oh, well… I’m off topic so I may as well get back on topic.


I find that the whole odd-colored hair business is completely over-used in anime and manga. Toradora is no exception. My personal theory is that since the artistic style doesn’t allow for much variation of a character’s face, they need the hair to tell the people apart.

-_- July 5, 2010, 3:04 PM EST.

Comment ID #54506

Weeaboos. Abbey is the Glassesloser in BCB. He doesn’t need glasses to be a loser.

J. Vincero (Jerk) July 5, 2010, 3:09 PM EST.

Comment ID #54511

But I love Abbey! Glassesloser is meh, but Abbey is awesome!

Leaving a comment July 5, 2010, 3:12 PM EST.

Comment ID #54513

What are you talking about -_-, Souppy is never angry.

what the hell happened with glassesloser anyway, he was all nice and calm and humble at the beginning but then by the end of the show he was all bare-chest and showing off his goods and stuff, I suppose Souppy and I missed like eight episodes of development, but yeesh.

Oh yeah the two other male students pissed me off and had no other reason to be there than to be generic comedy relief.. in the “LOLLOLOLOLO GIRLS” way.

team minorin

Taeshi July 5, 2010, 3:13 PM EST.

Comment ID #54519

Abbey started out as an effeminate cockhead. Now he’s a disgustingly saccharine or weeping melancholy effeminate cockhead, depending on what repressed memory du jour happens to float to the surface of his septic tank of a childhood.

J. Vincero (Jerk) July 5, 2010, 3:18 PM EST.

Comment ID #54521

But Jerk, he is soooo sad!!

Team Minorin forever.

Leaving a comment July 5, 2010, 3:20 PM EST.

Comment ID #54529

What emotion is he using when he’s like, “All your stuff is dumb, poorly-drawn, and lacking in any taste whatsoever. You should give up now before you disgrace this forum this your pitiful excuse for art.”?

I always assumed it was some kind of vindictive anger at someone obviously being lazy. Are you telling me he’s just cruel?

-_- July 5, 2010, 3:22 PM EST.

Comment ID #54535

Or just blunt?

I kind of see him when he types this stuff out, he looks pretty at peace. He’s just very sure of himself. Call it cruel, but he doesn’t lose sleep over what he says. Unless it’s something important like him worrying about exams.

you know, not the internet.

—-

Whoaaaaa, Jerk. What you said was kind of awesome ;__; But also makes me worry about pushing Abbey as some sort of MY LIFE HAS BEEN BAD LOOK AT MY LIFE MY NAME IS ABBEY HELLO kind of character, hiding behind his past. That’s annoying. I feel funny because whenever I draw Molly, THAT’S what spurs the septic tank. As pretty damn obvious by the incentive comic..

.. though the incentive comic was inspired by a song

oh wait toradora

yeah i’d still hit minorin

and dragonguy is pretty hot

Taeshi July 5, 2010, 3:25 PM EST.

Comment ID #54540

So what, you’d rather me babble about inane shit like the fact anime characters have odd coloured hair? I’d rather engage in a discussion about what makes a story like this good or bad. I put forth a reasoned opinion that people responded to, what have you done? Continue to help shit things up with boring posts.

*SuitCaseFAGGOT July 5, 2010, 3:30 PM EST.

Comment ID #54541

Shutting up now.

-_- July 5, 2010, 3:30 PM EST.

Comment ID #54547

“Oh no! I can’t express anger because I might turn out like my daddy!” And I love how he gets self-righteous whenever anyone fucks up (him glaring daggers at Paulo recently or pushing Mike around). It’s not Mike’s fault that Daisy couldn’t take a hint and it’s none of his stupid business what happens between him and the other girls. I can’t stand him.

@ Taysh But I don’t see him that way. I can separate the angst from that event and the angst that arises from his personality quirks just fine. I respect that way you wrote him, I just don’t like him as a person. Maybe he just reminds me of someone I didn’t like, I’ll admit it’s a possibility.

J. Vincero (Jerk) July 5, 2010, 3:34 PM EST.

Comment ID #54549

I still really like Abbey though, he is just a cool character to me. But that could be cause I love the hurt puppies. And the sarcastic bitches, they’re my favorites.

Leaving a comment July 5, 2010, 3:35 PM EST.

Comment ID #54551

and that is the essence of a flawed person

he’s trying to get better ;___;



TORADORA: I wanted Inko-chan to die, little annoying stupid pointless mascots are infuriating. I honestly was expecting a little tiger mascot because of the ending theme, but that didn’t appear obnoxiously in the show so I felt relieved over that.. but GRNGNHNHHHH INKOCHAN

Taeshi July 5, 2010, 3:36 PM EST.

Comment ID #54554

I didn’t like Model bitch, her character seemed pointless after just five episodes of her. She just kinda faded into the background like she didn’t matter.

Leaving a comment July 5, 2010, 3:41 PM EST.

Comment ID #54555

Which is why I don’t hate him, per se. I felt as sorry for him as anybody when I figured out what happened to his mom, but it never excused the way he treats the other characters.

The one thing that I take away from Abbey though, and I cannot express how much I just absolutely respect it, is that instead of sitting around and whining about his problems to anyone who would listen, he’s actively seeking help to deal with them. And THAT’S what will redeem him to me in the long run, as soon as I see him enough to forget that pompous self-righteousness he whipped out when Paulo was confronted by Lucy and Tess.

J. Vincero (Jerk) July 5, 2010, 3:45 PM EST.

Comment ID #54557

Hey even the brightest knight in shining armor is going to have a few smugs, or alot as the case may be. And I like his chivalrous attitude, nothing wrong with a little gentlemanship, he just takes it to an extreme and back.

Leaving a comment July 5, 2010, 3:50 PM EST.

Comment ID #54563

Abbey wasn’t really self-righteous though. He just really really really REALLY hates Paulo.

Taeshi July 5, 2010, 3:58 PM EST.

Comment ID #54564

THE MANGA IS EVEN WORSE

Gabriel Kaxbe July 5, 2010, 4:00 PM EST.

Comment ID #54566

@ LaComi: I can’t trust the “pure gentleman” quite as far as I can throw him.

@ Taysh: I get that he hates him. I mean, Paulo’s a dick after all, but Paulo hadn’t even said anything to him. (On an unrelated note though, Abbey’s expression was perfect.)

J. Vincero (Jerk) July 5, 2010, 4:05 PM EST.

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