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i'm jewish.
so i can make holocust jokes and give people promition to do the same.

to all of you:
my approvel has been granted !

Hentai13, on 01 December 2010 - 09:19 PM, said:

Firstly, if you really think i'm an illegal immigrant you desperatelly need to learn about sarcasm. Secondly I'm not even in the USA. I am an immigrant, but not from nor to the US. I've gone through all the proper procedures to get my residence visa and then my citizenship here, thank you very much.

Lastly, most illegal immigrants in the US actually do pay their taxes. This is because you are MUCH easier to find if you don't, as the IRD(or equivalent american office of tax-collecting) traces down and arrests you, then discover you're illegal and deport you. Since the tax department doesn't communicate with immigration (part of their policy, including privacy rights), you are a lot less likelly to be caught if you pay all your taxes neatly. OH THE IRONY!! ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE PAYING FOR YOUR SCHOOL FEES AND HOSPITAL COSTS!!

Back on topic, is "gringo" considered a racial slur? If so, who's allowed to use it?

This post has been edited by Migrant: 01 December 2010 - 09:34 PM

ILB, on 01 December 2010 - 09:22 PM, said:

The problem with old being included in the list is that your own age, your own personality and your own upbringing shape what you regard as old (such as a 5 year old seeing a 30 year old as such), whereas while some may get racism/sexism/religion hate/homophobia from their parents they usually define these no differently from normal people (the hot new Mexican slur is an exception to this rule, as anyone not from Mexico will quickly get pissed at being called this whereas half of the US are morons and simply don't distinguish Mexico from, say, Puerto Rico). Personally I have major problems with the concept of race in general and am constantly frustrated by how important it seems to some people.

Black, white, yellow, red, etc are generalizations only when used against people. Show me a person with truly black skin who does not suffer from melanism (finally, a word I can't spell). Show me a person who actually has white skin and isn't albino. Show me a Native American with true red skin who isn't sunburned, or an East Asian with true yellow skin who doesn't have jaundice. Though its frustrating as hell sometimes, I don't use these words to describe people because I can't honestly see the relevance. And getting angry because I call my keyboard black is like getting pissed at calling my female dog a bitch--it falls under the ignorant/intolerance rule, where the one getting upset is the one who is in the wrong, and only he/she can fix it.

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While this is entirely true, most people would consider any person over 90 to be old, and any person under ten to be young. Yet the ones who are in this group will often protest the notion.

Also, consider dwarfism. Calling them "tiny", "small", "dwarves", "leprechauns", "gnomes", "little", any of those would be offensive to them (and "vertically challenged" would either do exactly the same or just sound plain silly). We have no words that would not be offensive towards them - if there are, I invite you to bring me an example because my grasp of the English language is not as good as I would want it to be. But if that is my lack of knowledge, then I apologise for bringing that point up.

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There are some peoples in Africa with entirely black skin, actually. I think it is Africa, at the very least (but they exist). Not a major point, but I thought I would bring it up.

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Yes, this is true. But let us take your rule to the terms that would be problematic. A fag in England, for instance - it would be impossible, in the multicultural world we have today, for people not to be insulted or taken aback when people walk into a shop and orders a packet of "faggots". They might have learned English from American films or direct contact with Americans, or be American themselves - but the knowledge that the term means something different in the British Isles is far less widespread. It would be impossible, or at the very least incredibly difficult, to distribute that information to everybody in the world.

I am not arguing your point, only its practical application, which would be nigh impossible to follow through with.

I have to apoligize to you Migrant. I have a habit of geting into aguments with people who are smarter than me and I just look like an ass. I think i'll just start an argument with the trash can it's more my calibre...trash can you're full of crap!

Bukakke it's all fun and games till someone loses an eye.

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Actually, dwarfism is the technical term, but they often call themselves "little people" and this is not an offensive term. Just saying.


I forgive you, hen.

This post has been edited by Migrant: 01 December 2010 - 10:01 PM

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Really? That is new to me. Still, I am going to assume that far from everybody considers it inoffensive.

Migrant, on 01 December 2010 - 09:31 PM, said:

I don't think it's offensive, I know it's been directed at white people mostly. But seriously, how can a word I don't even understand be insulting? When you insult someone in a language they can't understand, your amount of fail sky rockets (not 'you' as in 'Migrant' I mean 'you' as in 'people who do that'). The point of insulting someone to their face is so they can get offended, and if they can't understand you, than why should they even bother listening? I myself can understand and speak french so if someone insults me in french I can insult them back in their own language and than laugh at the surprised look on their face. But this isn't what your asking is it?

As for who's allowed to use it? I don't know, my guess is anyone capable of speech.

This post has been edited by ClosetLucy: 01 December 2010 - 10:19 PM

NO U !

I think one of the most popular theories the the origin of the word "gringo" comes from the Mexican Wars (1846ish) where the mexica troops would hear the americans singing a song which started "green grows the grass in the american soil" or something, and "green grows" became "those gringo guys". The term got popular and was spread to all of central and south america.

As I understand it, in Mexico it is a very derrogatory term for americans specifically. In brazil it is used both as a derrogatory term and a friendly/amorous name for white americans and europeans (mostly) and any foreigners (occasionally), though any very white person can be called a gringo by extention. So again depending on context it can be "Let's go get that fucking grngo!" or "Oh baby you're my sexy gringa!"


EXTRA (don't read, it's kinda stupid):
Also, because the term itself doesn't have an original meaning appart from this one, and is quite well known in the states, you're argument of "if i can't understand it i don't care" doesn't apply. Also just because you can't understand what they are saying, doesn't mean people aren't talking about you behind your back! Ha!

This post has been edited by Migrant: 01 December 2010 - 10:46 PM

Migrant, on 01 December 2010 - 10:44 PM, said:

I /did/ refer to it being said "face to face" if they say it behind my back I'd care even less

Oh well, you said not to read that part anyways I guess

ClosetLucy, on 30 November 2010 - 02:36 AM, said:

I always figured they were allowed to say it because it's used to refer to them.

Ahem.

Intolerance is Gay.

On the N-word subject. Technically everyone has a right to say it. It's a word. You can't control who says it.

That doesn't make it not fucking annoying to come into a chat room every day with people spouting it every other sentence. I don't call you all white trash trailer park doublefaggots every second, now do I? Doublefaggot maybe, but the rest, no.

I don't know if that's the best argument against it, because people could say those things over and over and I wouldn't get annoyed with it more than any other overused joke.

fag just means cigarette where i was born. but yeah but watch Always Sunny in Philly if you want to see the correct use of the term of Jew

I know people who can't say spaghetti, and one guy I've met can't say revelation (he always says relevation).