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Alright now, fuck Lucy.

She's a cunt and is basically yanking Mike's chain back and forth depending on how she feels at that moment in time.

She was a massive jerk to him when he liked her, and then, when he goes and gets another bitch and moves on, she decides to just blurt out that she "loves" (HA) him. When Mike kinda politely says "Sorry, too bad.", she throws a shitfit and goes off to try and fuck his friend a few days later. Currently she's crying about totally being a bitch to Mike after he kissed her, back when he could manage to tolerate her bullshit. Now she's alone and gettin all sad because her vagina is getting cold and crusty. She can eat a dick (oh wait no she can't HAHA), I hope the bitch feels bad.

Not one character in the comic (aside from her faggot-ass pet who no one likes either) really likes her as a person. She's kind of a jerk to anyone she comes across and masks her emotions and is always manipulating people and making everyone else's life harder, and people have to take care of her and tolerate her as they would a child.
Clearly relationships mean absolutely fucking nothing, and she thinks all the world revolves around her and her needs, and all the dopey fans of this comic eat it up and feel sympathy because they're all furries who sit on their hand while reading BCB until it gets numb so they can jerk off and pretend like Lucy is doing it.
I am curious to see what points people can possibly come up with to defend her at this point, so I am making this thread.

Take a walk in the sun, the weather is lovely.

ok

I am fairly sure that this is a chapter based solely around regrets.

Paulo regrets getting emotionally hooked on jazzman.
Jasmine regrets ignoring him like a used toy or a small, ugly hat.
Jessica regrets her run in with the dog with the red hat.
Tess regrets being a bitch in heart mind and soul.
Augustus regrets having daisy think he attempted rape.
Rachel gets punched in the face a few times for good measure.
David does something he should regret but gets off scot free because he is motherfuckin David and he pop a cap in you and then suddenly has you forget and the page disappear.
This chapter set a forgiving mood as a whole.
Lucy is just the same as everyone else in this way so that is why this little infraction will just slip by most fans but it does change things a bit. If he already kissed you once and you "love" him, the level of angst that permeates the comic had become unjustified. If there was a tension there and everything was secret and no one knew fully how other felt, fine, but you can’t say “on one of the days he acknowledged my existence” and then pull up a memory of a time when he acknowledged your existence every day and showed clear romantic interest in you and you rejected it.

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I don't think mike and paulo are really "freinds" are they? I mean, they seem to be freinds in the same way that abbey and david are freinds. It's more like, they tolorate eachother.
Also, the morning after where she wakes up and stuffs her foot up paulo's nose showes that that is something she would have regreted too. The fact that she went straight to violence showes something though. Is it possable that she just defends her egg cave to much and that's the problem? It would explain the newest flashback and why she had to be an emotionaly unstable firehydrant in order to ride a cock and even then, even after having been emotionaly and physicaly sadusced, she didn't really want the sex.

Either she just wants freinds but can't live without being the center of one of their lives at any cost or she is so cought up in the purity ring bullshit in culture today that she feels like a pile of crap every time her loins ache.

This post has been edited by Craft aids: 27 April 2011 - 04:58 PM

This topic needs a poll on whether it ends up in the Honor roll or Detention.

Lynx, on 27 April 2011 - 05:01 PM, said:

Like tae cares.

Did research, removed post.

This post has been edited by Craft aids: 27 April 2011 - 05:25 PM

I've been on a downhill path? What exactly is that supposed to mean? It's called humour, buddy. Not everything in the world needs to be taken completely at face value. I'm not going to get personal, but seriously, you need to loosen up.
Oh, well that was real mature.

This post has been edited by Sammy: 27 April 2011 - 05:26 PM

But really, why is this thread now about me? Back to the topic.

And you did get personal.

This post has been edited by Craft aids: 27 April 2011 - 05:30 PM

This is a case of "Everyone has their cross to bear."Though it was a bad way to go about it, I don't think lucy made a wrong choice. And even if it was, who hasn't made wrong choices? I still can't believe that paulo did what he did with jessica and rachel. And mike, I don't even know where to begin. I think that this chapter shows that everyone has their problems and mistakes and how they intertwine with eachother and cause a butterfly affect in the future.

Mike is just some guy going "derp girls".

Meanwhile everyone wants Lucy except for him. And Lucy angsts over being so ronery.

I really don't think she's a cunt. If you read the comic, you'd know she basically never had any friends apart from Mike. You sorta tend to get attached to people if you haven't had any other friends for the last...
Wait, how many years? Many years, I guess.

Id est, she's unable to deal with situations involving showing her feelings 'cause she never really had any friends to share said feelings with. That's how I feel, anyway. I guess Taeshi could tell us if there's an official take on it, but I doubt that.

Michael pressured her too much, all at once. Lucy's confession was far less imposing. Not to say there were no problems with what she did, of course. ^_^

Also, I would like to refer everybody here to something that has to do with both Moliére and mirrors.

ILB, on 27 April 2011 - 06:33 PM, said:

I'm assuming you mean we're hypocrites 'cause I've no idea of who Moliére is apart from what Wikipedia can tell me.
Which is obviously true, regardless of what you meant.

I think the comic would ultimately be a whole lot less interesting and a whole lot more bland if Lucy weren't the tsundere we know she is.

Karo, on 27 April 2011 - 06:51 PM, said:

The series would probably be over by now if she wasn't who she was.

Lucy's no cunt, like esalaka said, she's an extremely lonely person because at first she couldn't make any friends because of her tomboyish manner. Subsequently making her guarded and emotional. Just think back to anytime the gang hung out, whether it was at lunch or outside of school, Lucy never had some motive to treat everyone cruelly. Sure she's rough on everyone, but not in a pure sense of "I fucking hate everybody, so I'll deliberately go out of my way to make everyone miserable".

Dr Noyd, on 27 April 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

I agree with this man

I agree with him 'cause he agrees with me.

I think Lucy's being rough on people 'cause she's learned to be that way.

We know why she is the way she is but she still is that way is she not?
"Just think back to anytime the gang hung out, whether it was at lunch or outside of school, Lucy never had some motive to treat everyone cruelly."
This is not a defence against being a cunt. It's admiting the point in the nicest way you can.

And I can agree that she was rejected but that doesn't turn everyone into whatever she is.
But lets jsut say that she was justifyed in the abuse. Lets just say that she had every right to the thousands of cells that were deformed under the force of her bones gringing into someone else and lets say she had every right to be distant but still never quite go away. Would you go away? I don't think you would. Lets say she was ther before sandy and mike is the one in the wrong about that(Don't defend mikle, we are being hypothetical and it would start a whole different debate.) Lets say she did everything right.

Now then, we have a justifieably angry young girl who lost the heart of her best, and for a time only, freind to some wench(Once again, being hypotheticle). A girl who was wronged by the world just because she was unhappy with gender roles in society. Now then, she was perfect and got everything she wanted. A group of freinds, a love interest she would never return, pets that serve as comfort no matter what and even then, she was still angsting over how everyone was a big meany. Even with your group of 12 freinds or however many, it's kid of big, you still angsted and refused to losen up a bit. Fine, you were wronged too hard. Lets forgive that too.

Now the person who pined for you for so long and even kissed you and you kissed back once but still kept at a distance because you didn't want him moved on and you get to be misurable. That pedo, or whatever, and his girlfreind had it right so long ago when they said that the kids had a bad case of not being honest with themselves. Not to mention that this page has a whole new meaning.

But now we have come in a full circle. All the kids have different flavors of the same issue. David's a stalker. Paulo is a player even though it seems to hurt him. Abbey is half his father and half pure hatred and rebellion for everything that resembles his father. Agustis has to big a heart to try to be heartless and as such is a huge faiure at it. Daisy has had a few chapters dedicated to her issues. Basicaly, every single one of them are masocistic cuntbags. Wait a minute, mikle has been honest this whole time and he is going to keep doing just that and if it harms everyone around him it is because they are so deep in it that the light of honesty burns them. Should he lie a bit? yeah, maybe. So now we have proven that they all suck just about the same with lucy sucking slightly more and mike sucking just slightly less.

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Why yes, yes he is. You know, Minus the implication that everything he has ever felt for lucy and sandy and about anything else he has ever thought was invalid just because his life centers on two girls.

This post has been edited by Craft aids: 27 April 2011 - 08:30 PM

I, as usual, agree with Mr. whf (though, as usual, without the burning anger ^_^)

But I think Paulo does like her. As does some other characters.
Mike also likes her, but he kinda likes anyone, so...

Dr Noyd, on 27 April 2011 - 07:21 PM, said:

About this, this doesn't exclude the fact that Lucy did bad/rough things. Even though she has a 'reason/excuse', she still did it. Poor her? Yeah, but live and learn.

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Craft aids, on 27 April 2011 - 08:22 PM, said:

Your correct when you place my quote out of context to my entire disscusion, but my point was in regards to the definition of a cunt, Lucy doesn't follow that criteria. Otherwise my statement would be false and ignorant.

Much of your argument is off topic to the thread discussion. Sure you start off stating Lucy's behavior is still unjustifiable regardless of her personality, and give hypothetical situations. But beyond that you are just analyzing the hypothetical situation which gives no reinforcement to the discussion whether Lucy is a cunt or not. You haven't proven anything beyond the characters have all these issues happening because they are not honest with themselves. (refer to highlights)

I think its a bit more of, lucy being too closed, and mike being too open. It just builds up from there.

This post has been edited by toddymon: 27 April 2011 - 10:08 PM

lmfao

this is great

Who do you think you are to say this?? You know what it is live with no friends?? She lived without trust from anyone. Only with the support of Mike...she lived so long without new friendships, only relying on Mike, and that made ​​the approach to other people might be very hard...
She don't want to be jerk with he when he tryed be her boyfriend... She was unsure about what she feel about him... I am almost certain she will smile in next page... But not near him because she have so much insecurities...

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Agreed.

This should be a poll. I would love to see how things pan out from there.
Question: Is lucy a cunt? Or just an ass?
Cunt
Ass
Thats how I would put it.

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andresm, on 27 April 2011 - 11:43 PM, said:

Man, how could I forget about that sort of reasoning! The classic internal argument of deciding between friendship or serious relationship, at this moment in time at least, maybe she's afraid that if she listens to her feelings she'll risk losing the friendship if they were to break up, (obviously wouldn't matter since the friendship is pretty much that in the present)

andresm, on 27 April 2011 - 11:43 PM, said:

At the first part, I have and it is not that bad as long as you didn't have a bunch of good freinds to start with which she did not.

The last part, where she kickes him out and then smilles
That's horrrifying.
Just....just the worst thing ever.

Also, if you actualy look st her eye near the top of the current page there is no way thats the case.
I hope that's not the case.

This post has been edited by Craft aids: 28 April 2011 - 12:44 AM

andresm, on 27 April 2011 - 11:43 PM, said:

AHAHHAAHAHAHAHaa

To take a page out of (nameless)'s book:

*heavy sigh*

Hey whf you snagged quite a few in your bear traps

This thread is like watching puppies trying to catch flying disks of fire with their mouths, succeeding at it, getting burned, screaming silently to themselves for a few seconds before extinguishing the flames, and then doing it all over again.

I love this thread.

Also, Lucy is a total cunt. Cunt bitch whore baggage to the max.

Fire? HAH! I only play with frisbees coated in acid and or poison.

Talon, on 28 April 2011 - 12:46 AM, said:

Or maybe he asked a question we are interested in.
Is that trolling? Is it?

Dr Noyd, on 27 April 2011 - 09:58 PM, said:

Cunt is a derogatory term just like bitch, asshole, bastard, and sometimes motherfucker as that one could be possitive. All the definition of cunt really shows is that they are somehow bad. This is a bad place to argue from so lets use a definition that's less opinionated. How about "Is lucy yanking mikes chain" and "Is lucy abusing everyone around her without good reason?" You know, because trying to argue over a definition based on opinion is never going to get anywhere.

Really, she has no good reason. Been there and done that and opening up is not that hard once you deside that you can stand someone. It should have taken a lot more to maker her into what she is. However, this is not an argument that will ever get anywhere either be cause it too varys from person to person.

Dr Noyd, on 27 April 2011 - 09:58 PM, said:

I give one hypothetical situation. Just one. That hypothetical situation is that lucy was justifyed in all of her many arguable actions. Everything up until the end of the third paragraph was setting up and forginving little thing about little thing. Then there is the fact that she was clearly in love with mikle and he clearly returned the feeling. Simply put, they had both kissed the other but only mikle ever made a move. She never did. We can look up at what andresm said and see that the fact that she had to run away before she could smile matches up with the idea that she will smile after mike leaves the room which shows insecurity and such. It is totaly possable that for some reason she is just Sooo insecure that she can't let people close ever no matter what she feels. Thatt's not a good thing. That's a flaw. That is her being unable to actualy be a real freind.
But at that point, wtf? Why was she suddenly able to tell mike? Why was she able to suddenly work up the gall to say it when she never had been able before? Why right after mike is taken? Could it be that she is yanking chains? Is it at all possable that she just enjoys scwreing with people? What an awful person. Or maybe she just wants what she can't have. Failing that also horrid trait, maybe she is just that desperate to keep the attention of her freinds. The thing with paulo supports that. If you read the chapter, she basicaly falls in love on the spot when he says that he cares. Or maybe it is just the insecuritty and denyle that makes her act this way. That doesn't make it any better. That is just the reason why she is a jackass/ect.
But at that point, she can still be forgiven because every one of them has the same issue(See above, that part was not off topic.) So, if lucy is a cunt then everyone is a cunt.
I think she is.

This post has been edited by Craft aids: 28 April 2011 - 01:18 AM

this was half trolling
i am really curious to see any legitimate arguments defending lucy and why what she has done in the comic is justifiable and acceptable in any social situation
however i made it intentionally "offensive" (not really offensive at all and obviously a joke) so naive people could freak out about it
furthermore, the fact that everyone is analyzing the meaning of the word "cunt" is also beautiful

continue please

Craft Aid's over-analysis is playing into our hands and is making this thread extra-awesome.





ALSO, DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THAT CUNT, LUCY

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whf, on 28 April 2011 - 01:22 AM, said:

Nope. That part is already done. It isn't good enough because it is vauge.

Everyone's a cunt!

Women get extremely offended by that word. It is sometimes baffling to me. You can tease with them about being a slut, whore, bitch, freeky, promiscuous...etc. BUT god forbid you drop the C-bomb, then shit hits the fan. Apparently there isn't a gradient of Cuntability, like it can only used in an offensive sense, not jokingly.

So I guess when you are called a Cunt, you ARE a Cunt. There is no other way to slice it.


Also, I elect not to defend Lucy because I don't know how I can objectively refute any processions alleged against her and at the same time resist the temptation of making my left hand numb.

This post has been edited by Purin: 28 April 2011 - 02:47 AM

Well, by that logic I called everyone a cunt and now everyone is a cunt.
This thread has ended. Take us to the insinerator.

I'll actually take a bite at this since the topic is becoming more about true definition of a cunt, lol

whf, on 28 April 2011 - 01:22 AM, said:

I'm tempted to take a relativistic view, but that's the easy way out..

She's a teenager who seems uncertain of what she wants. It wasn't until she thought she was going to lose Mike for good that she confessed to loving him(as many have pointed out). It's a bit too early for me to say why she rejected him, I can speculate for various reasons( uncertain, confused, not prepared for a relationship, etc.) Considering her age and the context of the situation(who hasn't taken things like friendships or relationships for granted, and only when threatened to losing them we freak out.) her actions are justifiable if you take the uncertain/ignorant approach. I'm sure she's kicking herself right now for not having any hindsight that this may affect any relationship with her and Mike in the future. But hey, we all make choices at times that at the present moment are in our best interest(this is debatable) but in the future they come back and bite us in the ass.

As for her being an asshole to her friends and crap, like anyone i can toss out various reasons for this, but a reason doesn't always justify peoples choices( or actions), just points out why they may act a certain way or do certain things. So basically I alone can't fully justify why she acts cruel at times. But if anyone has been reading the comic from start to present they should at least know the reasons of why she tends to act the way she does.

ATTENTION:













CHILL THE FUCK OUT.

This post has been edited by Chris: 28 April 2011 - 02:54 AM

Chris, on 28 April 2011 - 02:54 AM, said:

You're the one with the bold text so
ATTENTION:









CHILL THE FUCK OUT.

touche craft. touche.

Mr. Chris... I don't usually do that but... please be silent don't tell others to chill the fuck out. (It's an irony in itself, see)

I mean, people are not at each other's throats, at least not as they were in A LOT of other topics.
My guess is that you're too bothered by this thread to accept it.

Seeing two posts with uppercase containing the same offensive statement bothers me.
You're welcome to share your opinion, of course.

Edit:
Guh, Mr. Craft's message was more effective, I think ^_^

This post has been edited by Lycan: 28 April 2011 - 03:24 AM

sorry. it was just a joke. I was reacting to people taking the thread too seriously, when the creator said that he was kinda trolling.
perhaps I should have reacted differently.
sorry lycan .

YOueR A BaslkjTarD And I KeeL yoU! Habalabarargruble!

This post has been edited by Chris: 28 April 2011 - 03:44 AM