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The Bittersweet Zombie Bowl

  • lt_amazil
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thank you mallow but it'll be unneeded
  • #51

What? Are you insane? You've just had a revised and buffed up script GIVEN to you freely. Bloody hell.
  • #52

  • SushiJaguar
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Sammy, it's time to let go.
  • #53

I've invested precious ranting time in this, and I'm gonna see it through :nope:
  • #54

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View PostSammy, on 02 June 2011 - 10:59 PM, said:

What? Are you insane? You've just had a revised and buffed up script GIVEN to you freely. Bloody hell.

what? no i appreciate it i'm glad someone finally did it but the thing is i have something else in mind for the fanfic thus why this thread was inactive

This post has been edited by lt_amazil: 02 June 2011 - 11:36 PM

  • #55

dunno why i'm even on this thread, i don't even have the patience to read words.
  • #56

you're definetly no suzanne collins. you suck! what is the point of this story i really have no idea what they are trying to achieve. i have no sense of where they are. you could at least give us a more detailed setting. in writing class you would have an F. i'm not so picky on punctuation as long as i can understand it. they way you told the story you would have to have knowledge of left 4 dead, and BCB. you don't really express the characters much. mainly cause your story is too fast paced. you should add meat to your story unless this is a plot outline for a comic and i wouldn't even call it that. have you ever written a 5-page report in your life? or paid attention in writing class. you need to work on your story alot and give it a point. or a problem to solve. give it a god damn plot! by the way how old are you? cause if your 10 or somthing i'll say i'm sorry.
  • #57

  • lt_amazil
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melee this is was a crude adaptation of the comic and once i get that damn projector cable i can show it how it was supposed to be
  • #58

DERPY STORY.
  • #59

This story...WAS....not good
  • #60

View Postlt_amazil, on 07 June 2011 - 06:56 AM, said:

melee this is was a crude adaptation of the comic and once i get that damn projector cable i can show it how it was supposed to be

well if its better than what you have here fine. but um i'm not convinced i should help you with the projector cable. i could help you write it if you want.
  • #61

i dont care how he writes as in caps or not i love the plot going on here so stop crying about it and let him finish the story!!! i dont care about spelling or grammar as long as im able to read it. 8-D
  • #62

Well, you obviously have no taste in literature and/or are severely retarded. I suspect the latter.
Tamizil, don't criticize the only person so far to actually do something for your project. Help him out, don't just tell him he's crap..

This post has been edited by Sammy: 07 June 2011 - 07:15 PM

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View PostSammy, on 07 June 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

Well, you obviously have no taste in literature and/or are severely retarded. I suspect the latter.
Tamizil, don't criticize the only person so far to actually do something for your project. Help him out, don't just tell him he's crap..

well i have plenty of taste in writing i just dont care about the grammar. if you care about grammar get of the computer and go to an english class
  • #64

View PostGoreko, on 07 June 2011 - 07:24 PM, said:

View PostSammy, on 07 June 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

Well, you obviously have no taste in literature and/or are severely retarded. I suspect the latter.
Tamizil, don't criticize the only person so far to actually do something for your project. Help him out, don't just tell him he's crap..

well i have plenty of taste in writing i just dont care about the grammar. if you care about grammar get of the computer and go to an english class


Jesus Christ this is the internet. You're not going to find worse grammar nazis anywhere.

So please would you fix your capitalization, apostrophes and typos :)

This post has been edited by esalaka: 07 June 2011 - 07:33 PM

  • #65

View PostGoreko, on 07 June 2011 - 07:24 PM, said:

View PostSammy, on 07 June 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

Well, you obviously have no taste in literature and/or are severely retarded. I suspect the latter.
Tamizil, don't criticize the only person so far to actually do something for your project. Help him out, don't just tell him he's crap..

well i have plenty of taste in writing i just dont care about the grammar. if you care about grammar get of the computer and go to an english class

So you didn't notice that the plot was incredibly flawed, often made no sense, and was flat out terrible? Along with the characters acting next to nothing like they would in the actual story. Because that's generally a big part of having taste in writing, which we can all see you do not have.
  • #66

i just think of the story as something detatched from bcb because of its flaws so i accept it does have many holes but i still like it somewhat and honestly if you dont like how the plot is in the first place why keep comming back?

This post has been edited by Goreko: 07 June 2011 - 07:44 PM

  • #67

Because the author can and will improve with the tuition that we have given him. Don't tell him it's good, because it isn't. But it can be.
  • #68

ok it definatly could be better and i would like to see more just as long as i can see something =.= im reading 10 comics currently each of them taking forever to update so im alittle on edge
  • #69

I think we're all a little on edge. Let's all just cool off, take a nap, and proofread Meowth's fan-fic.

This post has been edited by Purin: 07 June 2011 - 08:05 PM

  • #70

  • lt_amazil
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View PostGoreko, on 07 June 2011 - 07:58 PM, said:

ok it definatly could be better and i would like to see more just as long as i can see something =.= im reading 10 comics currently each of them taking forever to update so im alittle on edge

well rest assured that i have a hell of a head start already. if i were to get that cable, and update even TWICE a day, i would i would have more than enough to constantly update for 30 days straight.

Spoiler

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  • lt_amazil
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i'm going to regret this i just know it, but i've spent a month working on the comic and i've done so much for it i can't have the comic version not shown. i'm not gonna stop this time, i finally have equipment and will post the comic. before starting there's some things you will need to know and i will talk about them in the next 7 days.

before clicking the spoiler look at my art thread. http://www.bitterswe...__1#entry203260 notice how it's so different from BCB? that's because it is! i had grown accustomed to it, so having to change it to BCB was a helluva challenge. i could not come up with a better medium to it so sue me for not being good with change. though the art is debatable, the beta readers like the story a lot so i hope you will too. Also, because i don't want to re-tell chapter 1 and 2 i will skip to chapter 3: pushing daisies. i would also like to tell all of you that there are NO NSFW scenes in here, the sandy rape scene was an off panel thing. so without further adeu i give you the BZB comic.

oh and congratulations to augustus ;) out of all of the characters (excluding jasmine) you were the only one i could not pull off.
Spoiler

This post has been edited by lt_amazil: 25 June 2011 - 12:33 PM

  • #72

I just looked at the BZB "comic" in the spoiler of your post and... wow... they look nothing like the characters from the comic, did you even LOOK at what the characters look like when you drew this? I honestly had to squint to recognize some and even then most of them just look retarded (especially since most of them are apparently as thin as goddamn cardboard with phallic looking hands).
And some of them aren't even FROM BCB since three of them are REGULAR HUMANS (unless your art is THAT bad, but I'll try to give you some credit).
I could forgive the post in your art thread since they were your own characters looking terrible and not recognizable characters being terrible.
And honestly WHO are these Beta readers who supposedly "like" this?
  • #73

Let me stop you right here. SHOW don't TELL. Your readers should get a vivid mental picture of what you're saying. And why do you need to specify "Ground zombies?" Are there flying zombies? Swimming zombies? Finally, PUNCTUATION IS YOUR FRIEND. Get associated with him.

For the love of God tell me English is not your first language.
  • #74

  • lt_amazil
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@soulfish: okay look at it this way, that art doesn't look like bcb but then again my normal art doesn't really look like the bzb. I had to find a mid-way point between bcb and what i'm used to. I wanted to keep to something i'm used to. I cannot go into detail on who the three humans are without spoiling just know that they play a very big role. On the subject of who the beta readers are, it's rory and arthur perez (they aren't related)
  • #75

i'm sorry but i hate your style. it looks like a combination of poptropica people with anime eyes that are too large. your weapons suck. i recommend using a ruler. or somthing straighter than your hand. and i know you like bcb but i really think you should write a comic about your characters, it would be more original, and possibly more enjoyable.
  • #76

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View PostMeleeman, on 26 June 2011 - 02:58 AM, said:

i'm sorry but i hate your style. it looks like a combination of poptropica people with anime eyes that are too large. your weapons suck. i recommend using a ruler. or somthing straighter than your hand. and i know you like bcb but i really think you should write a comic about your characters, it would be more original, and possibly more enjoyable.

i have been. for 3 years. the idea came up and i couldn't let it slip. i'd rather have it shown with weird art then not shown at all. also I. DO. NOT. DRAW. ANTHROS. this was a huge change for me. ANYWAY the first page of chapter 3 will be skipped because i put my faith in color pencils. and they failed me. pretty much what happens is a MikeXLucy shipper's dream. they both set aside their differences, learning their lesson from Paulo they kiss and make up.

page2 chapter 3

http://liquimatter.c...20111111PM2.jpg

SO TIPS OF THE DAY ARE:
use a ruler for things...i guess i can give it a try, YOU SHALL SEE THE CHANGE ON PAGE 71...or was it 72. and right now you are on page 25


SCRYPT:
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This post has been edited by lt_amazil: 26 June 2011 - 06:22 AM

  • #77

I reapeat Carcharocles' question; Is English your first language?

I'm Danish (meaning I got English in what would be fourth grade in the U.S.) and younger than you, Amazil, but I care about capitalization, apostrophes, grammar and punctuation - And keeping characters the way that act and behave in BCB, which is the comic you're making a fanfiction/fancomic of! (through it dosn't seem that way).

Sorry Amazil, but this isn't good. At all. I mean, I'm not that pricky about fanfictions, but I didn't even bother reading it all - Some of it didn't make any sense!
Go look up some tutorials or something and be a little humble - don't post anything if you haven't used time and corrected it and looked at it five times and then corrected it again.

By the way, in English, remember that "I" is always capitalized when you're talking about yourself.
  • #78

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...that's it i'm taking down the written version.

also i'll do a voiced sum-up of chapter 1&2 for those who didn't read it.

This post has been edited by lt_amazil: 26 June 2011 - 09:37 AM

  • #79

You still didn't answer the question....
  • #80

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i'm chamorro, so unfortunately yes. i just didn't care.
  • #81

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No,just no.
This isn't a comic. It's a bunch of scribbles.
I know you're probably starting out as an artist but there's no need to jump in the deep end so quickly, it's like the only thing you do most of the time, this was just like the BCB movie thing you tried to do something you obviously couldn't do without making it look shit and expected it to be a masterpiece.
I mean you used paper that already has drawings on the back, it is completely visible and obstructs the comic (although that may be a good thing considering the art), everything just seems crammed together as you just use the most basic panel layout ever, you do know you can make different panels easily? Did you? Just make a big one or a long one for different situations, it's simple.
And the writing is horrible (In more ways than one) as there are no speech bubbles to indicate who's talking and instead you just use a hastily drawn line which just creates confusion, also the sound effects just blend in with dialogue which makes it look like the characters are actually saying BLAM, don't forget the poor quality of the lettering as there is little space between words and some just look like one word.
So in short this comic is terrible and look like no effort was put into it.

This post has been edited by SoulFish: 26 June 2011 - 10:01 AM

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yes i know the penmanship is horrid (i've said it on one occasion) i'll try editing out the background and re-write the dialogue on paint for the next page. as for the speech bubbles i'll have to do that by hand, so you won't see that till page 72. Finally, i would use shattered forth wall panels but that would be too out of control, the box helps with giving me a border that i mustn't cross.
  • #83

View Postlt_amazil, on 26 June 2011 - 10:09 AM, said:

yes i know the penmanship is horrid (i've said it on one occasion) i'll try editing out the background and re-write the dialogue on paint for the next page. as for the speech bubbles i'll have to do that by hand, so you won't see that till page 72. Finally, i would use shattered forth wall panels but that would be too out of control, the box helps with giving me a border that i mustn't cross.


No what I meant with the panels was varying sizes can help with different scenes in the comic, y'know large ones for action scenes or long horizontal ones when a character is introduced or something.
And of course I know the panels are a border you can't cross, I'm not stupid.
  • #84

  • lt_amazil
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oh well i already do that. in fact you'll see one in a couple pages.
  • #85

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Doesn't Lucy still have the sniper rifle I remember her using to shoot down a helicopter at the beginning? Clearly the person shooting at them can't aim accurately enough at this range, so why doesn't Lucy just shoot him after he declares it a hold-up?
  • #86

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page 3 is up!
and to borg lord:she the sniper is in a house and shooting through a slot so she has to shoot that slot.

ALSO THANKS TO RADIAL FOR SHOWING ME GIMP! at first i had only known paint and was using it but now that i have gimp it's faster and even better. I LOVE YOU FOR THIS!
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SCRYPT (i know you can't read my penmanship so click the spoiler so you know what they're saying)
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This post has been edited by lt_amazil: 28 June 2011 - 09:59 AM

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OH MY GOD I ACCIDENTALLY MADE PAULO BALD IN THE 4TH PANEL D:

oh well.
  • #88

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script
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I know this guy isn't the candy corn guy. but the thing is that I didn't know how to draw him, and i didn't wanna go through the trouble of learning to draw a character i'm only gonna use for 2 or 3 pages.

the lovely stunt double is a friend of mine. His name is Tiny_Dancer1 he's a irish idiot. you'll see how much of an idiot he is in the next page.

This post has been edited by lt_amazil: 29 June 2011 - 08:17 AM

  • #89

HAHA
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WOULD GET COLA BUT INSTEAD HE GOT A PIPE BOMB
No seriously. Who the hell did you expect to laugh at this?
  • #90

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The fuse

isn't

extinguishable by water
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View Postlt_amazil, on 26 June 2011 - 10:17 AM, said:

oh well i already do that. in fact you'll see one in a couple pages.

redo this page. with better panels and make it neater so i can see the expressions on their faces so i don't have to spend an hour trying to figure out this clusterfuck of scribbles.

View Postlt_amazil, on 26 June 2011 - 10:17 AM, said:

oh well i already do that. in fact you'll see one in a couple pages.

redo this page. with better panels and make it neater so i can see the expressions on their faces so i don't have to spend an hour trying to figure out this clusterfuck of scribbles.
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View Postlt_amazil, on 27 May 2011 - 02:36 AM, said:

no i will not TRY to make a comic it had already been done, before the written version the comic version came first which is why i am frustrated because i have to transform a comic strip into a novel. I'm not saying i'm too good to be criticized how dare you say that i think highly of myself when it is you people that make my optimism drop it is you who keep me in check and let me remember that i am but one person who can't do shit. i just want someone to help me make this! i am asking for someone to write it for me so as i don't have to make a fool of myself, so i don't fuck things up as i have for a lot of things. every time i try to do something it blows up in my face and i just want someone who can stop it! i do read what you say but i can't do it i don't know HOW i'm not trying to be the stubborn idiot but i can't help it i'm trying my best to do better i hear what you all say but i...i...fuck it. i know what you're trying to do i understand that you're trying to help me become a good writer the fact is i can't, not yet so i need someone who can.

be my writer somebody anybody be my writer i'm trying to ask for your help if you are reading this please help. if you can do better please help. if you can write please help. if you know basic english please help. if you are human please help. if you have basic speech functions please help.

help me

amazil the only time you should ask for help is when you have time constraints. i don't think you have many time constraints, listen if you really want people to like your artwork and stories you should strive to do better. i'm saying you need more perserverance, you should take those insults as a challenge. except for sushi jaguar he just an asshole. but i always try to do better at my art. and sadly i must say it you need to take the time to make things nice and neat, and have more patience. it's hard i know. i have to play music while i spend hours working on my comic. it's taking me forever but why do i do it? i do it because i want the appreciation of people and more than that tell a good story.

View Postlt_amazil, on 27 May 2011 - 02:36 AM, said:

no i will not TRY to make a comic it had already been done, before the written version the comic version came first which is why i am frustrated because i have to transform a comic strip into a novel. I'm not saying i'm too good to be criticized how dare you say that i think highly of myself when it is you people that make my optimism drop it is you who keep me in check and let me remember that i am but one person who can't do shit. i just want someone to help me make this! i am asking for someone to write it for me so as i don't have to make a fool of myself, so i don't fuck things up as i have for a lot of things. every time i try to do something it blows up in my face and i just want someone who can stop it! i do read what you say but i can't do it i don't know HOW i'm not trying to be the stubborn idiot but i can't help it i'm trying my best to do better i hear what you all say but i...i...fuck it. i know what you're trying to do i understand that you're trying to help me become a good writer the fact is i can't, not yet so i need someone who can.

be my writer somebody anybody be my writer i'm trying to ask for your help if you are reading this please help. if you can do better please help. if you can write please help. if you know basic english please help. if you are human please help. if you have basic speech functions please help.

help me

amazil the only time you should ask for help is when you have time constraints. i don't think you have many time constraints, listen if you really want people to like your artwork and stories you should strive to do better. i'm saying you need more perserverance, you should take those insults as a challenge. except for sushi jaguar he just an asshole. but i always try to do better at my art. and sadly i must say it you need to take the time to make things nice and neat, and have more patience. it's hard i know. i have to play music while i spend hours working on my comic. it's taking me forever but why do i do it? i do it because i want the appreciation of people and more than that tell a good story.
  • #93

  • lt_amazil
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@Sammy probably people who wanted to kill Whittaker in l4d2
@meleeman I'll try and salvage the faces when editing.

Beta readers are wanted: it's actually not that different from a regular reader except you get to read the future comics and you get chapter5 meaning that you can have anything happen in the story (it doesn't even have to make sense) for this. one chapter. Note this isn't a way of asking for help .but rather giving someone an opportunity to get a bit more out of the comic.
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View Postlt_amazil, on 30 June 2011 - 09:08 AM, said:

@Sammy probably people who wanted to kill Whittaker in l4d2
@meleeman I'll try and salvage the faces when editing.

Beta readers are wanted: it's actually not that different from a regular reader except you get to read the future comics and you get chapter5 meaning that you can have anything happen in the story (it doesn't even have to make sense) for this. one chapter. Note this isn't a way of asking for help .but rather giving someone an opportunity to get a bit more out of the comic.

i'll be a beta reader
  • #95

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lt please get off the forums.
  • #96

It's hard to read something so sloppy.
And uhhh bro you're not going to get anywhere if you keep deleting your crap every time people don't like it.

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you can have anything happen in the story (it doesn't even have to make sense)

Your comic/story here is doomed.
  • #97

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What the hell, I just noticed the shotgun has four barrels. What's going on there?
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View PostSushiJaguar, on 01 July 2011 - 03:58 AM, said:

What the hell, I just noticed the shotgun has four barrels. What's going on there?

Shotguns with four barrels exist. They're typically 28 gauge or smaller, custom ordered and holy hell expensive. And he does have it in a realist pattern (diamond). However, they are not pump action and you cannot fit them with quick load attachments. You wouldn't saw one off either--they're too damn valuable.
Edit: Amazil, I can read your penmanship just fine. For those who can't, you might want to rewrite your "script." What's being said in the page's first comic doesn't match what the "script" says. At all.

This post has been edited by Carcharocles: 01 July 2011 - 04:24 AM

  • #99

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Okay first off the candy corn guy gets the pipe bomb from Mike and thinks it's cola, but considering the pipe bomb is in plain view in front of him in the flap why didn't he just go "oh shit", throw it back and don't talk to them again (I mean the thing even has a label saying NOT COKE and a lit fuse).
But then let's use suspension of disbelief to ignore that and see he's picked up the pipe bomb for some retarded reason, why does all the openings on the door suddenly close? I mean only the candy corn guy should be able to manipulate those which would lead him to throw the bomb back out.
But let us stretch our suspension of disbelief even further to accept this decision that defies any logic and go to the last two panels as he decides to extinguish the fuse with water, but as Sushi says, Fuses. Don't. Work. That. Way.
Also didn't you say you were going to edit the dialogue with paint? Apparently not since you've only done that for a single piece of dialogue in a previous comic, went "Fuck it!", and just wrote the script down and having to inconvenience the reader by having to read a script along with the comic.
Do you even KNOW what a comic is? It's not a bunch of scribbles packaged with a retarded script! It's supposed to use sequential art to tell a story in a clear and easy way, qualities this comic obviously lacks.

This post has been edited by SoulFish: 01 July 2011 - 02:05 PM

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