Since Augustus is now getting a bit more spotlight as a character than before.... Scenes in two chapters each? New record for him! Anyway, since he is getting more spotlight... a lot of people are saying they want more, or they want him gone....
So, this is what this topic is about. Use the poll to answer that... and if you want to elaborate on why, then you can reply. Please make logical reasoning.... or if you just dislike his character... say that without causing problems.
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Augustus:A Interesting Character Or a Unneeded One?
- #1
- 27 June 2011 - 10:37 PM
- Toffee
- Member
I actually think we've seen a pretty good amount of characterization already from him, with his childhood and how he feels about Daisy compared to others and the like. I actually kind of like him!! I have a soft spot for his type of personality. 8'D Not necessarily his actions, though.
The entire thing between him and Daisy isn't even cleared off yet, so he kind of needs to stay regardless of what others think. P: After all, it is because of him we saw another slightly negative trait from Daisy.
Summary; I'm fine with more.
The entire thing between him and Daisy isn't even cleared off yet, so he kind of needs to stay regardless of what others think. P: After all, it is because of him we saw another slightly negative trait from Daisy.
Summary; I'm fine with more.
This post has been edited by Toffee: 28 June 2011 - 12:01 AM
- #2
- 28 June 2011 - 12:01 AM
- toddymon
- Member
I think he is the darkness that every light produces. He sort of has to be there in the shadows to pop up and ensure that their lives are more screwed up then they need to be. in basic analogous speak, he is an essential necessity, that doesn't particularly need to be there alot, but still has to be there.
- #3
- 28 June 2011 - 12:04 AM
Toffee, on 28 June 2011 - 12:01 AM, said:
I actually think we've seen a pretty good amount of characterization already from him, with his childhood and how he feels about Daisy compared to others and the like. I actually kind of like him!! I have a soft spot for his type of personality. 8'D Not necessarily his actions, though.
The entire thing between him and Daisy isn't even cleared off yet, so he kind of needs to stay regardless of what others think. P: After all, it is because of him we saw another slightly negative trait from Daisy.
Summary; I'm fine with more.
The entire thing between him and Daisy isn't even cleared off yet, so he kind of needs to stay regardless of what others think. P: After all, it is because of him we saw another slightly negative trait from Daisy.
Summary; I'm fine with more.
Yeah, you right about the clearing up part
- #4
- 28 June 2011 - 12:09 AM
Augustus is alright as far as characters go, no strong like or dislike of him so far, but I enjoy some of the conversation that seems to have him as the topic.
- #5
- 28 June 2011 - 12:36 AM
- Kaxbe
- Member
In webcomics that span a long time, adding new characters and exploring lesser characters is pretty much needed in order to prevent things from getting too stale. In all honesty, I was getting bored of all the Mike and Lucy drama and Rachel and Jess mixed things up a little, but not enough. Now that Augustus is being explored and is interacting with more characters, new group dynamics are being explored and it has even brought new light to Mike and Lucy's relationship (he views her not all too differently from Augustus in terms of over-dependency and overall patheticness). Taeshi is doing good with him, giving him more time without attracting too much attention.
- #6
- 28 June 2011 - 12:44 AM
Originally I thought of him as something like a macguffin. He was only really there to advance the plot along and other then that he had only enough characterization as necessary. I would like to see him more fleshed out just because he interests me.
- #7
- 28 June 2011 - 12:48 AM
He's a necessary plot device, you could say. At the present time, though, I see a lot of potential to become a main character, along the same lines of Alejandro. He may have been a plot device earlier, but now he's making a comeback as a "villain" sort of ideal. I feel Augustus will follow the same ideal.
- #8
- 28 June 2011 - 01:40 AM
Man, I didn't know this topic would be noticed this fast... cool.
- #9
- 28 June 2011 - 01:44 AM
- SushiJaguar
- Internet Tough Guy<br>P.S. I roleplay as a medieval furry
Member 
Multiple accounts ftw.
- #10
- 28 June 2011 - 04:29 AM
- matty_batty0
- Member
Who ever said he should be killed off? And why? Even if for some reason you absolutely hate a character, why does that make them deserving of being removed from the comic, if anything a character which can make you feel that way should stay.
- #11
- 28 June 2011 - 05:06 AM
- Carcharocles
- BCI Member
He's an interesting character who provided a good deal of character development for Daisy, unintentionally set up the Daisy X Abbey pairing, and now is going to play a role in Lucy's development. Despite being an asshole and possible rapist, he's a necessary character, and removing him would require that he be replaced.
- #14
- 28 June 2011 - 02:53 PM
- Random Internet Loser
- Member
I like the way he is now. He seems more mellow and less... rape-y
- #15
- 28 June 2011 - 03:01 PM
- Taeshi
- one hot bitch
Administrator 
The really funny thing is that all edits of the book have veered him in the less-rapey and more sympathetic direction. I have to be blunt and admit that I didn't really know where I was going with Augustus when I first introduced him. He needed to fit some roles, but ultimately he was a character in training or something. After developing him enough, I realised who he shoulda been all along. So yeah, a bit of retconning.
I kind of hate the concept of villains in high school comics who are just.. completely villainous. It's generally unrealistic. Teenagers can be terrible sometimes, but they're not mustache-twirling complete monsters. Most of the time, I hope.
I kind of hate the concept of villains in high school comics who are just.. completely villainous. It's generally unrealistic. Teenagers can be terrible sometimes, but they're not mustache-twirling complete monsters. Most of the time, I hope.
- #16
- 28 June 2011 - 04:40 PM
- Knux-the-Killer
- Member
Taeshi, on 28 June 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:
The really funny thing is that all edits of the book have veered him in the less-rapey and more sympathetic direction. I have to be blunt and admit that I didn't really know where I was going with Augustus when I first introduced him. He needed to fit some roles, but ultimately he was a character in training or something. After developing him enough, I realised who he shoulda been all along. So yeah, a bit of retconning.
I kind of hate the concept of villains in high school comics who are just.. completely villainous. It's generally unrealistic. Teenagers can be terrible sometimes, but they're not mustache-twirling complete monsters. Most of the time, I hope.
I kind of hate the concept of villains in high school comics who are just.. completely villainous. It's generally unrealistic. Teenagers can be terrible sometimes, but they're not mustache-twirling complete monsters. Most of the time, I hope.
O___O........I want the book......
This post has been edited by Knux-the-Killer: 28 June 2011 - 05:39 PM
- #18
- 28 June 2011 - 05:39 PM
- Minecraft
- Member
Knux-the-Killer, on 28 June 2011 - 05:39 PM, said:
Taeshi, on 28 June 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:
The really funny thing is that all edits of the book have veered him in the less-rapey and more sympathetic direction. I have to be blunt and admit that I didn't really know where I was going with Augustus when I first introduced him. He needed to fit some roles, but ultimately he was a character in training or something. After developing him enough, I realised who he shoulda been all along. So yeah, a bit of retconning.
I kind of hate the concept of villains in high school comics who are just.. completely villainous. It's generally unrealistic. Teenagers can be terrible sometimes, but they're not mustache-twirling complete monsters. Most of the time, I hope.
I kind of hate the concept of villains in high school comics who are just.. completely villainous. It's generally unrealistic. Teenagers can be terrible sometimes, but they're not mustache-twirling complete monsters. Most of the time, I hope.
O___O........I want the book......
There is a book?!
- #19
- 29 June 2011 - 12:28 AM
Whats with the killing off option. Has BCB turned into a soap opera were whenever the fans stop liking a character they just kill them off?
- #20
- 29 June 2011 - 12:33 AM
Well, elaborating 
I believe Augustus is OK as it is, meaning that, more or less, most of the characters that were originally introduced as "supporting" and later, either remained as "supporting" or got promoted to "main", and those who were promoted to "main" got, progressively, either dramatic or cheesey or fun-factor. See paulo, that was the "good-hearted mean friend" and now he's the kind of guy who'll read "Twilight" just because his GF asked. Abbey was the "knight-in-shining-armour" of sorts, and now he's like this overly romantic guy... of sorts, that dates Daisy.
David has always been the funny guy of the group, but then we got the chapters about "flower girl" then he tries to hit on Rachel, then (maybe) Katie is seen eyeing him.
The only ones that are, more or less, just as they were when originally introduced, are the supporting characters: Mc Cain, Sue, Amaya, Rachel, Katie, Jess, etc.
So the comic somehow needed a "Dark" character, not "evil-dark" (that's Alejandro) but just "dark". So we have Augustus filling that spot. and he fills those shoes nicely.
I hope he keeps up that "mystery & though-guy" ways of him for at least after "Alejandro's vengeance".
I believe Augustus is OK as it is, meaning that, more or less, most of the characters that were originally introduced as "supporting" and later, either remained as "supporting" or got promoted to "main", and those who were promoted to "main" got, progressively, either dramatic or cheesey or fun-factor. See paulo, that was the "good-hearted mean friend" and now he's the kind of guy who'll read "Twilight" just because his GF asked. Abbey was the "knight-in-shining-armour" of sorts, and now he's like this overly romantic guy... of sorts, that dates Daisy.
David has always been the funny guy of the group, but then we got the chapters about "flower girl" then he tries to hit on Rachel, then (maybe) Katie is seen eyeing him.
The only ones that are, more or less, just as they were when originally introduced, are the supporting characters: Mc Cain, Sue, Amaya, Rachel, Katie, Jess, etc.
So the comic somehow needed a "Dark" character, not "evil-dark" (that's Alejandro) but just "dark". So we have Augustus filling that spot. and he fills those shoes nicely.
I hope he keeps up that "mystery & though-guy" ways of him for at least after "Alejandro's vengeance".
- #21
- 29 June 2011 - 12:52 AM
- Borg Lord
- Talk shit about furries and see how mad I get!
Member 
Rawrdinosaur, on 29 June 2011 - 12:33 AM, said:
Whats with the killing off option. Has BCB turned into a soap opera were whenever the fans stop liking a character they just kill them off?
No, its fans just wish they could kill characters off. I'm surprised that nobody has picked that option so far, actually. But if that option weren't there we'd never know nobody would pick it.
- #22
- 29 June 2011 - 03:19 AM
- ???
- Member
I don't like any of these options. I don't particularly like Augustus, and I despise his efforts to hurt, or at least assist in the hurting of, the main characters and their affiliates. But I recognize him as an eventual key plot device that will change BCB (drastically, perhaps?). Currently, he is just Augustus, but killing him will ruin the future and keeping him will ruin the future; it is a dilemma. Yet I'm not content to say that I'm okay with him either.
I am still not the same person as Marks.
It doesn't help that ILB gave me the nickname 'Mark' on the forums, though...
Ah, well... if I can make it through the late updates then I can make it through SushiJaguar's shenanigans.
^That situation has been resolved, soooo... nevermind those last few lines.^
SushiJaguar, on 28 June 2011 - 04:29 AM, said:
Multiple accounts ftw.
I am still not the same person as Marks.It doesn't help that ILB gave me the nickname 'Mark' on the forums, though...
Ah, well... if I can make it through the late updates then I can make it through SushiJaguar's shenanigans.
^That situation has been resolved, soooo... nevermind those last few lines.^
This post has been edited by ???: 29 June 2011 - 08:11 AM
- #23
- 29 June 2011 - 07:28 AM
- matty_batty0
- Member
Augustus's character was changed a bit in the book, the comic which is online will eventually be updated to show these changes won't it?
- #24
- 29 June 2011 - 07:31 AM
- Random Internet Loser
- Member
Minecraft, on 29 June 2011 - 12:28 AM, said:
There is a book?!
Please, tell me you're joking. The book is fairly recent news, man. C'mon.
- #27
- 29 June 2011 - 09:53 PM
I like his induction. We know so much about him, but at the time so very little. I've yet to get a clue of his actual motives. Only problem is his character develops so slowly, and he constantly changes from "I'm a misunderstood guy with good intentions" and "Oh boy, girls with vulnerable personalities!"
Despite any faults, he is one of the main reasons I come back every update.
Despite any faults, he is one of the main reasons I come back every update.
- #30
- 01 July 2011 - 04:16 AM
- HakuInaba
- BCI Member
Augustus is the connection between the bad guys from Confrontation and the cast. It wasn't just a random encounter they had in a strange city anymore. Its become a plot that hasnt been getting much spotlight but it's still there in the darrkness waiting for the right moment to cause problems
- #31
- 16 September 2011 - 05:38 PM
Relinquish, on 28 June 2011 - 01:40 AM, said:
He's a necessary plot device, you could say. At the present time, though, I see a lot of potential to become a main character, along the same lines of Alejandro. He may have been a plot device earlier, but now he's making a comeback as a "villain" sort of ideal. I feel Augustus will follow the same ideal.
Wait, when has Alejandro been showing up? The last time we saw him (other than the guest comic bonanza) was at the start of Chapter 41, I think.
- #32
- 16 September 2011 - 06:59 PM
- HakuInaba
- BCI Member
That's the thing. His presence is only kept to the plot involving Augustus. As readers, we only get to see little of the plot go on at a time. Augustus has been writing about what he has been observing about the group for quite a while. 
I dont know why he's collecting information for Alejandro or what is going to be done but revenge is in this plot.
I dont know why he's collecting information for Alejandro or what is going to be done but revenge is in this plot.
- #33
- 16 September 2011 - 07:01 PM
Taeshi, on 28 June 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:
The really funny thing is that all edits of the book have veered him in the less-rapey and more sympathetic direction. I have to be blunt and admit that I didn't really know where I was going with Augustus when I first introduced him. He needed to fit some roles, but ultimately he was a character in training or something. After developing him enough, I realised who he shoulda been all along. So yeah, a bit of retconning.
I kind of hate the concept of villains in high school comics who are just.. completely villainous. It's generally unrealistic. Teenagers can be terrible sometimes, but they're not mustache-twirling complete monsters. Most of the time, I hope.
I kind of hate the concept of villains in high school comics who are just.. completely villainous. It's generally unrealistic. Teenagers can be terrible sometimes, but they're not mustache-twirling complete monsters. Most of the time, I hope.
The_Max, on 29 June 2011 - 12:52 AM, said:
Well, elaborating
I believe Augustus is OK as it is, meaning that, more or less, most of the characters that were originally introduced as "supporting" and later, either remained as "supporting" or got promoted to "main", and those who were promoted to "main" got, progressively, either dramatic or cheesey or fun-factor. See paulo, that was the "good-hearted mean friend" and now he's the kind of guy who'll read "Twilight" just because his GF asked. Abbey was the "knight-in-shining-armour" of sorts, and now he's like this overly romantic guy... of sorts, that dates Daisy.
David has always been the funny guy of the group, but then we got the chapters about "flower girl" then he tries to hit on Rachel, then (maybe) Katie is seen eyeing him.
The only ones that are, more or less, just as they were when originally introduced, are the supporting characters: Mc Cain, Sue, Amaya, Rachel, Katie, Jess, etc.
So the comic somehow needed a "Dark" character, not "evil-dark" (that's Alejandro) but just "dark". So we have Augustus filling that spot. and he fills those shoes nicely.
I hope he keeps up that "mystery & though-guy" ways of him for at least after "Alejandro's vengeance".
I believe Augustus is OK as it is, meaning that, more or less, most of the characters that were originally introduced as "supporting" and later, either remained as "supporting" or got promoted to "main", and those who were promoted to "main" got, progressively, either dramatic or cheesey or fun-factor. See paulo, that was the "good-hearted mean friend" and now he's the kind of guy who'll read "Twilight" just because his GF asked. Abbey was the "knight-in-shining-armour" of sorts, and now he's like this overly romantic guy... of sorts, that dates Daisy.
David has always been the funny guy of the group, but then we got the chapters about "flower girl" then he tries to hit on Rachel, then (maybe) Katie is seen eyeing him.
The only ones that are, more or less, just as they were when originally introduced, are the supporting characters: Mc Cain, Sue, Amaya, Rachel, Katie, Jess, etc.
So the comic somehow needed a "Dark" character, not "evil-dark" (that's Alejandro) but just "dark". So we have Augustus filling that spot. and he fills those shoes nicely.
I hope he keeps up that "mystery & though-guy" ways of him for at least after "Alejandro's vengeance".
This is a story about teenagers growing up. Having them stay the same would be a very bad idea.
HakuInaba, on 16 September 2011 - 05:38 PM, said:
Augustus is the connection between the bad guys from Confrontation and the cast. It wasn't just a random encounter they had in a strange city anymore. Its become a plot that hasnt been getting much spotlight but it's still there in the darrkness waiting for the right moment to cause problems
- #34
- 16 September 2011 - 07:05 PM
- eniena
- BCI Member
Well, I don't know if I should talk, because I love this character - in my opinion, despite the necessity of being a jerk sometimes ( 
) , he is the most mature person (cat?) in entire comic. What he said to Lucy about being rejected by Daisy was simply beautiful. He has equally horrible past as Abbey, but he is much stronger that him. He copes somehow without any help.
And I found him funny as hell
) , he is the most mature person (cat?) in entire comic. What he said to Lucy about being rejected by Daisy was simply beautiful. He has equally horrible past as Abbey, but he is much stronger that him. He copes somehow without any help. And I found him funny as hell
- #36
- 26 December 2011 - 02:51 PM
- Shok&Awe
- Member
He's a very curious and interesting character. I'm looking forward to how he features in the story as a whole, as Taeshi appears to have some plans for him. His perspective on Lucy and Mike's relationship certainly helps and his blunt and to the point honesty certainly helps shock some sense into Lucy. I like how he's changed and being developed, and I'm curious to see the new dynamic he'll be adding in become more pronounced, particularly in light of recent events.
- #37
- 28 December 2011 - 08:39 AM
- MintyFishbowl
- Member
Annoys me how rape cat hasn't actually raped anyone yet...
I don't really know my stance on him. I guess if anything, Augustus is the character that I would be okay with having a negative ending. But then again, that depends on the current and future circumstances.
I don't really know my stance on him. I guess if anything, Augustus is the character that I would be okay with having a negative ending. But then again, that depends on the current and future circumstances.
This post has been edited by MintyFishbowl: 28 December 2011 - 02:33 PM
- #39
- 28 December 2011 - 02:31 PM
- eniena
- BCI Member
Maybe I'm just a sucker for happy endings but even if I don't like Mike I wouldn't want him to end bad
I can only guess but I think Augustus has too drama in his story to leave him suffering even more in the end.
That would be so depressing.
I can only guess but I think Augustus has too drama in his story to leave him suffering even more in the end.
That would be so depressing.
This post has been edited by eniena: 28 December 2011 - 03:58 PM
- #40
- 28 December 2011 - 03:58 PM
- Carcharocles
- BCI Member
asdf, you are indeed right.
"Rape Cat" is Alejandro, and while he hasn't successfully raped anyone, he sure as hell tried in Confrontation.
"Rape Cat" is Alejandro, and while he hasn't successfully raped anyone, he sure as hell tried in Confrontation.
This post has been edited by Carcharocles: 28 December 2011 - 06:35 PM
- #42
- 28 December 2011 - 06:34 PM
- Carcharocles
- BCI Member
That's not even the issue, eniena. "Rape Cat" and "Confrontation Cat" were always Alejandro, while "Final Fantasy Cat" is Augustus. Early drafts of comic had Augustus coming off as kind of rapey in his actions against Daisy, but the revised dialogue of the book and an alternate history story (viewable if you are a BCI member) confirm that it was never his intention.
Besides, "rape" is about violence and control, not sex. Which pretty much fits into line with what Alejandro tried to do to Lucy in confrontation.
Besides, "rape" is about violence and control, not sex. Which pretty much fits into line with what Alejandro tried to do to Lucy in confrontation.
This post has been edited by Carcharocles: 28 December 2011 - 06:49 PM
- #44
- 28 December 2011 - 06:46 PM
- eniena
- BCI Member
Yes, I know their nicknames and I know they are two different characters, but I didn't know second meaning of "rape" word, cause in my country it is considered very literally and harsh.
And maybe I just wanted to start a conversation between the lines (blushes) hahaha
And maybe I just wanted to start a conversation between the lines (blushes) hahaha
- #45
- 28 December 2011 - 06:50 PM
- lt_amazil
- i agree, and believe everything migrant just said!
Member 
honestly, i like Augustus. his character is cool headed, and logical. he's a semi-bad guy in the fact he's bad but you know he has enough morals to change...sort of like McCain except McCain's not...y'know...he's neither good nor bad...he's logical.
plus i love side characters.
plus i love side characters.
This post has been edited by lt_amazil: 29 December 2011 - 03:50 AM
- #46
- 29 December 2011 - 03:49 AM
- The Observer
- Member
I used to hate him, but that was mostly due to my disdain for LucyxAugustus shippers.
However, I actually like how he has developed so far. He's my third fav guy behind Mike and Paulo. I think his bluntness could be a much needed wakeup call for Lucy. I'd like to see him fleshed out a bit more, but I suppose the same could be said for Abbey or Jazz. All in good time.
However, I actually like how he has developed so far. He's my third fav guy behind Mike and Paulo. I think his bluntness could be a much needed wakeup call for Lucy. I'd like to see him fleshed out a bit more, but I suppose the same could be said for Abbey or Jazz. All in good time.
- #47
- 31 December 2011 - 09:27 AM
- Foolishprototype001
- Member
Whatever Alejandro has planned, I dont see Augustus going through with it for some reason. If anything does happen, Augustus will more than likely betray his loyalty to Alejandro's gang and come to Mike and Lucy's aid because his consience gets the better of him. But even then im just making an educated guess, so sitting back and waiting seems like the only reasonable thing to do.
- #48
- 13 February 2013 - 06:02 AM
- LackLuster
- Moderator
Foolishprototype001, on 13 February 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:
Whatever Alejandro has planned, I dont see Augustus going through with it for some reason. If anything does happen, Augustus will more than likely betray his loyalty to Alejandro's gang and come to Mike and Lucy's aid because his consience gets the better of him. But even then im just making an educated guess, so sitting back and waiting seems like the only reasonable thing to do.
I don't have a problem with people resurrecting old threads so long as the post doing so made was a well thought out intriguing essay which provokes thought and reason to continue the thread.
But as that never happened you're getting a warning for resurrecting a dead thread with a really bland comment. Grats.
- #49
- 13 February 2013 - 08:51 AM
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