If magic can shield you against so many curses and projectiles as are shown in the books, it is unlikely that a rifle would work (not least since you would need to attack his horcruxes by profoundly magical means to actually kill him; he does not "run out of them" by dying - they are constant in upkeeping his life).
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or making a magic rifle that shoots magic bullets. Bullets that could destroy a horcrux or kill Voldemort, maybe.
- #53
- 18 July 2011 - 08:05 PM
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ILB, on 18 July 2011 - 03:54 PM, said:
If magic can shield you against so many curses and projectiles as are shown in the books, it is unlikely that a rifle would work (not least since you would need to attack his horcruxes by profoundly magical means to actually kill him; he does not "run out of them" by dying - they are constant in upkeeping his life).
I dunno, The ability to sheild is dependent on reaction time.
Bullets fly fast. Very fast.
- #54
- 18 July 2011 - 09:33 PM
- ILB
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They do. So do the beams of magic. Avada Kedavra kills even more instantly than a bullet does. And Voldemort was said to be one of the best wizards in existence (thus, he would have had to be quicker than, say, Snape, who was able to counter a jinx thrown in the blink of an eye). I do not at all think a gun would work.
- #55
- 18 July 2011 - 11:08 PM
AHA! But a sniper rifle would be able to kill him from hundreds of yards away, and without Voldemort's knowledge. The killing curse, though instantaneous, requires that the user be close enough for the opponent to do the same. You've gotten me all excited, I'm gonna go watch Meet the Sniper. He would have been the one to kill Voldemort, if anyone.
- #56
- 19 July 2011 - 12:10 AM
Yeah, I 'spose. Unless you somehow aqcuired basilisk venom, and dipped the bullets in it. Shoot the horcruxes, and there you go.
- #58
- 19 July 2011 - 01:31 AM
I don't quite understand your analogy there. The idea is that you could use the venom in the bullets to destroy the horcruxes. And kill v-mort.
- #60
- 19 July 2011 - 01:50 AM
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Yes, but just using the basilisk fangs would have made the process that much easier, rather than extracting said venom from them (remember, the basilisk was dead, so taking the poison out would have been an arduous thing to do) and applying them to bullets.
Also Fiendfyre or similar magical means, which are way simpler than a venom coating for a weapon you would have to bring there anyway. The point is, it would be unnecessarily difficult to do it that way, just like it is needlessly hard to bash flies with sledgehammers when we have fly swatters.
Also Fiendfyre or similar magical means, which are way simpler than a venom coating for a weapon you would have to bring there anyway. The point is, it would be unnecessarily difficult to do it that way, just like it is needlessly hard to bash flies with sledgehammers when we have fly swatters.
- #61
- 19 July 2011 - 01:55 AM
I see. But my point is; a magical, high-powered sniper rifle with magical, large-caliber bullets would have solved the v-mort problem much quicker and easier.
And why doesn't someone just use a time turner to go back and kill young v-mort before he grows up? Like maybe a terminator? They're immune to the killing curse, aren't they? since they're robots?
And why doesn't someone just use a time turner to go back and kill young v-mort before he grows up? Like maybe a terminator? They're immune to the killing curse, aren't they? since they're robots?
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- 19 July 2011 - 01:59 AM
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I'm dating Harry Potter, I won't miss the series that much. Seriously, Uber looks like freakin Harry Potter and his best friend is a freakin Ginger that I swear to God is the missing Weasly.
- #63
- 19 July 2011 - 02:34 AM
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I see. But my point is; a magical, high-powered sniper rifle with magical, large-caliber bullets would have solved the v-mort problem much quicker and easier.
If you are going to introduce a MacGuffin such as that, you may as well say that The One Ring can be destroyed by putting it in your tea water. ^_^
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- 19 July 2011 - 02:40 AM
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A rifle has barely any logic to work in the World of Harry Potter. 
Even if the bullets were dipped in basklisk venom, the bullets would melt under the power of the venom. Plus, Voldermort has thousands, millions of followers that would jump in front of a bullet for him.
Plus, protego can be set up in less than a second, as seen in the close fight scenes in the latest movie. Example, the fight between Molly Weasly and Bellatrix Lestrange. Who both aren't the best of witches. Bellatrix is good, but not Harry-Voldermort-Snape good.
On another note:
Voldermorts body was twisted to fit his power, surely no bullet could kill him when his body isn't even human anymore?
Plus eight horcruxes [Including the secret one], no waaaay in hell.
...
I feel like a fanatic DX
Even if the bullets were dipped in basklisk venom, the bullets would melt under the power of the venom. Plus, Voldermort has thousands, millions of followers that would jump in front of a bullet for him.Plus, protego can be set up in less than a second, as seen in the close fight scenes in the latest movie. Example, the fight between Molly Weasly and Bellatrix Lestrange. Who both aren't the best of witches. Bellatrix is good, but not Harry-Voldermort-Snape good.
On another note:
Voldermorts body was twisted to fit his power, surely no bullet could kill him when his body isn't even human anymore?
Plus eight horcruxes [Including the secret one], no waaaay in hell.
...
I feel like a fanatic DX
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- 19 July 2011 - 02:44 AM
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For all that I don't like about the series, I like Voldemort the most if only for the fact that Ralph Fiennes did a particularly good job playing his role. I don't really see his motivations for anything except "kill shit lololol," but that's better than being a four-eyed, perpetual MacGuffin chaser.
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- 19 July 2011 - 02:52 AM
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edit: was on my iPod thought I was responding to someone else due to not seeing there wad a second page
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- #68
- 19 July 2011 - 05:00 AM
- Arnas Baubkus
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If you had read the book, it wouldn't have gotten spoiled.
Also, to anyone who has seen the last movie, how accurate is it to the book?
Also, to anyone who has seen the last movie, how accurate is it to the book?
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- 19 July 2011 - 06:36 AM
ILB, on 19 July 2011 - 02:40 AM, said:
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I see. But my point is; a magical, high-powered sniper rifle with magical, large-caliber bullets would have solved the v-mort problem much quicker and easier.
If you are going to introduce a MacGuffin such as that, you may as well say that The One Ring can be destroyed by putting it in your tea water. ^_^
IF the tea-water were hot enough to melt the ring.
Skylar, on 19 July 2011 - 02:44 AM, said:
A rifle has barely any logic to work in the World of Harry Potter. Even if the bullets were dipped in basklisk venom, the bullets would melt under the power of the venom. Plus, Voldermort has thousands, millions of followers that would jump in front of a bullet for him.
Plus, protego can be set up in less than a second, as seen in the close fight scenes in the latest movie. Example, the fight between Molly Weasly and Bellatrix Lestrange. Who both aren't the best of witches. Bellatrix is good, but not Harry-Voldermort-Snape good.
On another note:
Voldermorts body was twisted to fit his power, surely no bullet could kill him when his body isn't even human anymore?
Plus eight horcruxes [Including the secret one], no waaaay in hell.
...
I feel like a fanatic DX
Even if the bullets were dipped in basklisk venom, the bullets would melt under the power of the venom. Plus, Voldermort has thousands, millions of followers that would jump in front of a bullet for him.Plus, protego can be set up in less than a second, as seen in the close fight scenes in the latest movie. Example, the fight between Molly Weasly and Bellatrix Lestrange. Who both aren't the best of witches. Bellatrix is good, but not Harry-Voldermort-Snape good.
On another note:
Voldermorts body was twisted to fit his power, surely no bullet could kill him when his body isn't even human anymore?
Plus eight horcruxes [Including the secret one], no waaaay in hell.
...
I feel like a fanatic DX
The sword of gryffindor (did I spell that right?) simply absorbed the power of the venom into it's metal, since it was goblin-made (or something). Who's to say they could not have forged several bullets using similar methods? As for the death eaters willing to take a bullet, That's why you would use a sniper rifle. To kill them from far enough away that they can't aim a curse at you, or take the bullet.
Or a SEAL-team 6 style raid might work as well. The problem then is that the people going into the compound are at high risk. But not higher than say, raiding Bin Laden's compound. (The killing curse, like a gun, requires pointing an object accurately at someone to kill them.)
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- 19 July 2011 - 03:26 PM
Johnny Hurricane said:
IF the tea-water were hot enough to melt the ring.
You do realize that water vaporizes at a mere 100°C, right? ^_^
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- 19 July 2011 - 03:30 PM
I do. Bad example, I guess.
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- 19 July 2011 - 03:32 PM
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I have to agree with ya Jerky, and let's just face it; Voldy is the king of the ultimate awkward hug. I can't help but feel like he was just screwing off during a scene and decided to throw it in there.
- #76
- 19 July 2011 - 04:05 PM
Oh, just tea-water. Yeah, you're right. But for this analogy to work, then it would have to be some sort of magical tea-water.
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- 19 July 2011 - 04:35 PM
On an unrelated note:
"Guys! That Snape is a spy!"-The Death Eaters
"Guys! That Snape is a spy!"-The Death Eaters
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- 19 July 2011 - 08:47 PM
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Leaving_a_Comment, on 19 July 2011 - 04:05 PM, said:
I have to agree with ya Jerky, and let's just face it; Voldy is the king of the ultimate awkward hug. I can't help but feel like he was just screwing off during a scene and decided to throw it in there.
Draco's face when he got hugged by Voldemort was the best.
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- 19 July 2011 - 09:27 PM
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Johnny Hurricane, on 19 July 2011 - 03:26 PM, said:
The sword of gryffindor (did I spell that right?) simply absorbed the power of the venom into it's metal, since it was goblin-made (or something). Who's to say they could not have forged several bullets using similar methods? As for the death eaters willing to take a bullet, That's why you would use a sniper rifle. To kill them from far enough away that they can't aim a curse at you, or take the bullet.
Or a SEAL-team 6 style raid might work as well. The problem then is that the people going into the compound are at high risk. But not higher than say, raiding Bin Laden's compound. (The killing curse, like a gun, requires pointing an object accurately at someone to kill them.)
You like being an ignorant fuckwit, don't you? I mean, really, that's the only reason I could think of for you to continually ignore everything else but your little cannon-fodder wet dream while you jerk off to the latest flashpoint conflict.
Who's to say they wouldn't have forged bullets is magic is more powerful and adaptable, end of story. Magic has no defined range, in the last book and film spells cast from your simple wand are used to fuck Hogwarts up, and it's bubble shield. Wizards are everything from physicians to mobile artillery platforms that run on food.
Aslo, you don't need to specify which SEAL team would do the job. That's just plain retarded in terms of logistics anyway. As for actually trying to eliminate Voldermort via current SOPs of special operations troops, you are asking the impossible. You don't face off to a guy who can kill you with a flick of his wand and a thought without even aiming with assualt rifles and submachine guns.
And as ILB said, Horcruxes. He is immortal unless all of his Horcruxes are destroyed, because his soul flees his mortal shell and hello Philosopher's Stone once again.
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- 19 July 2011 - 10:28 PM
- #82
- 19 July 2011 - 10:32 PM
- SushiJaguar
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No, I just like watching people acting stupid and then correcting them when I get bored.
You're not a troll, Johnny. You're genuinely thick as twenty-two planks stacked on top of each other.
You're not a troll, Johnny. You're genuinely thick as twenty-two planks stacked on top of each other.
- #83
- 19 July 2011 - 10:34 PM
SushiJaguar, on 19 July 2011 - 10:28 PM, said:
You like being an ignorant fuckwit, don't you? I mean, really, that's the only reason I could think of for you to continually ignore everything else but your little cannon-fodder wet dream while you jerk off to the latest flashpoint conflict.
Yep. Definitely a calm, reasonable argument.
- #84
- 19 July 2011 - 10:36 PM
- SushiJaguar
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I'm glad you think so. At least we agree on something, huh?
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- 20 July 2011 - 01:30 AM
SushiJaguar, on 20 July 2011 - 01:30 AM, said:
I'm glad you think so. At least we agree on something, huh?
Clearly, either you or I aren't picking up on the sarcasm here. But we're getting off topic.
Wouldn't it be great if someone drew gryffindor-mike?
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- 20 July 2011 - 01:46 AM
aaaand we're back to people hating on Mike.
- #88
- 20 July 2011 - 02:35 AM
- SushiJaguar
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You're so retarded! 
- #89
- 20 July 2011 - 06:15 AM
Skylar, on 19 July 2011 - 07:50 AM, said:
Arnas Baubkus, on 19 July 2011 - 06:36 AM, said:
If you had read the book, it wouldn't have gotten spoiled.
Also, to anyone who has seen the last movie, how accurate is it to the book?
Also, to anyone who has seen the last movie, how accurate is it to the book?
It was faily accuret for a movie actually.
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While I do agree with you that the movie was fairly ACCURATE to the book it definitely could've done better without making the movie too long or anything like that. Especially compared to the rest of the movies which have been way more accurate than these last two movies.
Spoiler
I realize this example may not be the best but it's what stuck out most for me. So anyway to answer Arnas' question yes, it does a good job at sticking to the books, similar to the rest of the Harry Potter movies.
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- 20 July 2011 - 06:26 AM
- Carcharocles
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Johnny Hurricane, on 19 July 2011 - 01:59 AM, said:
I see. But my point is; a magical, high-powered sniper rifle with magical, large-caliber bullets would have solved the v-mort problem much quicker and easier.
What the hell is up with people who read a modern day magic story or a time travel story and start screaming about "let's go back and grab guns, problem solved!" I've seen this argument so many times and it's usually a product of "I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, but I'll say it anyway."
Really, if GUNS were so superior to magic you'd think killing spells would have gone out of fashion with the invention of the rifle cartridge.
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- #91
- 20 July 2011 - 11:38 AM
- SushiJaguar
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Actually Harry always was carried out of the Forest by Hagrid.
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- 20 July 2011 - 02:37 PM
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- 21 July 2011 - 02:18 AM
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- #94
- 21 July 2011 - 02:27 AM
- ILB
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He also put the invisibility cloak on himself immediately after Neville chopped of Nagini's head, and then disappeared in the commotion until he went to face Voldemort in their duel. So he used the cloak before giving himself up, and also after he had been carried to the castle by Hagrid, but not to escape the forest.
- #95
- 21 July 2011 - 12:51 PM
I have a question about the killing curse.
Avada Kedavra comes from the ancient Sanskrit phrase literally translated: "From life, death."
The opposite of that is Abra Kadabra which means: "From death, life."
So if someone used Abra Kadabra, if we're thinking about the translation of the words, could it bring the person back to life?
(Never read the books, but saw the movies.)
Avada Kedavra comes from the ancient Sanskrit phrase literally translated: "From life, death."
The opposite of that is Abra Kadabra which means: "From death, life."
So if someone used Abra Kadabra, if we're thinking about the translation of the words, could it bring the person back to life?
(Never read the books, but saw the movies.)
- #96
- 21 July 2011 - 05:26 PM
A friend of mine suggested using the TF2 crew to take down Voldemort. I told him it was the greatest idea ever. Especially considering everything the Heavy shouts when firing his minigun.
"Waah! WAAAAHH! Cry some more!"
"I thought we would be fighting MEN! Who sends babies to fight me?"
"Run, run, coward! I'm coming for you!"
etc.
And would an Uber make them invulnerable to the killing curse?
"Waah! WAAAAHH! Cry some more!"
"I thought we would be fighting MEN! Who sends babies to fight me?"
"Run, run, coward! I'm coming for you!"
etc.
And would an Uber make them invulnerable to the killing curse?
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- 21 July 2011 - 05:34 PM
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Ven, on 21 July 2011 - 05:26 PM, said:
I have a question about the killing curse.
Avada Kedavra comes from the ancient Sanskrit phrase literally translated: "From life, death."
The opposite of that is Abra Kadabra which means: "From death, life."
So if someone used Abra Kadabra, if we're thinking about the translation of the words, could it bring the person back to life?
(Never read the books, but saw the movies.)
Avada Kedavra comes from the ancient Sanskrit phrase literally translated: "From life, death."
The opposite of that is Abra Kadabra which means: "From death, life."
So if someone used Abra Kadabra, if we're thinking about the translation of the words, could it bring the person back to life?
(Never read the books, but saw the movies.)
If you read the books, you'd know that restoring a life is not only a forbidden magic, but also goes against the principles of magic. In the series they do explain the things which magic cannot do, such as making food out of nothing. You can make food appear, but it still comes from somewhere.
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- 22 July 2011 - 06:11 AM