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A Jedi vs a (Harry Potter canon) wizard in a fight to the death.
Who would win?
(No killing curse, that's just like cheating.)

I would say Jedi so

Definitely Jedi, they can do the magicky bits without having to shout out some stupid thing and swing a wand. And then they have lightsabers too.

Didn't a similar thread like this get detentioned this very week?

It depends on the stupid fanfic writer's whim.

*hit*

Wizards can also do magic things without swinging a wand and shouting stuff. They are taught how to deal with such sort of magic in the sixth year, if not earlier. Also, if the wizard was disallowed from using Avada Kedavra, would the jedi be excluded from doing something to the same effect (e.g. snapping somebody's neck, or actually eradicating them)? If so, then I honestly think the battle would be equal - if the combatants were.

Still. I am unsure whether to let this topic live, but I will let it be for now.

ILB, on 21 July 2011 - 11:23 PM, said:

My sentiments exactly.

I would say that they would be equally matched, because they could do things that would easily kill their opponent.
This makes me think of the time when I was playing D&D and I wanted to use prestidigitation to create a small box in a guy's heart to kill him, but my DM did not allow it .

One of my friends used Summon Monster I to summon giant beetles and shit on top of enemies, it was really stupid.

Tensa Zangetsu, on 21 July 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

I'm surprised this isn't a meme.

On-topic now, I think that they hold a good fight, but I gotta go Jedi. Now, if it was not a Harry Potter world wizard, then I have to think about it for a little bit.

It is a harry potter world wizard. vs. a jedi.

Hmmm... Well, any projectile-style curse would be unable to phase a Jedi's reflexes, plus who's to say what a shield charm meant for a magical spell would do with whatever technology is in a lightsaber.

After much deliberation, I can only imagine that as long as it wasn't a padiwan or Luke (the crybaby) and it wasn't an ambush... a Jedi would win. 7 times out of 10, I would reckon. Because obviously if you pit Dumbledore up against your average Jedi you're gonna get the result you expect because Dumbledore can do the unexpected and hit hard and from anything at hand.

To measure the weapons: Force push which is a wall that is hard to miss with, Jedi reflexes to dodge a large number of things, force jump to surprise and outdistance, and the raw mechanical power of the lightsaber (cut through anything)

Versus curses which have to hit the target, Apperation that's pretty loud (in canon book magic system), and wands that choose wizards in such complicated processes that it's a plot point.

Jedi wins. As the instinct first tells most who know them both.

This post has been edited by Biblioholic: 23 July 2011 - 04:28 AM

Biblioholic, on 23 July 2011 - 04:12 AM, said:

Did some research, did ya? Hmm... Perhaps this might give you a little more perspective on the whole battle. (I didn't watch it, so don't complain if it is not what the title says. Fair warning.)

Really it all factors down into whether or not a wizard could use protego against the force and whether a lightsaber can block magic.

I'm guessing the force might if a lightsaber can't

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... Admittedly not. Read the books. Watched the movies. Played the games. Read all around both wikipedias. I know them both pretty well.

But seriously: even imagining progeo can block a lightsaber. Even with killing curse. What training process does a wizard go through? At age eleven they get sent to school where the primary purpose is to have fun with friends and learn magic. They go through seven years, and then go to work. Jedi training: age FIVE, they get separated permanently from their parents and henceforth their career, purpose in life, and only thing to do is learn the force and use it for diplomacy and freedom and peace. The force and being a Jedi is a lifetime thing. You never stop learning.

Reflexes, they train for a lifetime for this. Problem solving skills, seeing what the other is going to do, reacting to it. They attack, dodge and lunge while wand is too busy shooting off into the air next to you to block the saber in their gut.

Trust me. Jedi wins. How many ways can a wizard kill and how hard is it? How so with a jedi?

Just... Jedi, people. Every. Jedi. Is a prophet. To a lesser degree.

This post has been edited by Biblioholic: 23 July 2011 - 07:13 AM

Oh, I'd have to say Jedi. First come first serve.

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You have to remember that the wizards who are committed to similar ideals (Aurors, for instance) go through much more training - wizards and witches are not so much an occupation as a race. They have to be highly skilled; they are supposed to counter not only hostile wizards but also magical creatures such as dragons, Basilisks, Dementors, Boggarts, Giants, Trolls and so on. Comparing a high-level Jedi to a regular, run-of-the-mill wizard is not fair; you have to take people who go through a lot of training. And a wizard in such a position (just like any other magical human, but more so) would also never stop learning.

Another thing to keep in mind is that there are more shield curses than Protego, and some of them not even the most powerful wizards can bypass - and Harry Potter managed to keep Voldemort's worst fury out with just the simple Protego. While light sabres are high-technology weapons... Yes, a wizard would be able to block them if he was at a comparable level to the Jedi. And how many ways can a wizard kill? Well, there is obviously Avada Kedavra, which has a definite beam shape. But there are also ways such as Sectumsempra (cutting the opponent to pieces), the Cruciatus curse (although it would be inefficient), any number of conflagration and manipulation of nearby lethal objects jinxes and spells, and so on. Many of these do not require beams or any visible means of contact with the target. And consider Imperio, the mind control curse.

Furthermore, a wand is not limited to doing just one thing at a time, and anyone with magical talent can send their magic through other objects. An Auror and a Jedi of similar skill levels would be very much balanced in their scuffle. Why? Because wizards are far less limited than what you portend, and if this is talking about someone at a comparable niveau, he would be able to do a whole lot more than just aim a wand at nothing at all.