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I'm still pretty new here, only been active like a week or something. It wasn't a graceful start, but fuck it, I'm here. I was a major player in an online drawing community for a few years until the head of the site and I had a major disagreement on the direction the site was taking and I asked to be permabanned. Now the whole thing is 13 year olds obsessed with anime and Panic! At The Disco and I'm happy I bailed when I did. This place will be a refreshing change of pace I think.

The people here seem interesting, in the 'I don't give a fuck' kind of way. Hopefully I don't get too much crap for writing walls of text all the time, but I think I'm gonna like it here.

This is a freaking meta-thread!

I really wish people could cite those that are "unpleasant to deal with" like Souppy asked the page before. I know it opens you up for targeting my mentioning names, but it also allows the person you're targeting to explain themselves. Because there's been many times where a person would be like "snooths is a piece of shit and i hate him" and he would appear and explain himself and seem really cool about it. You know that if you have a problem with a person, it's better to confront them about it than be passive aggressive and shitty when it might be a misunderstanding in the end.

Also Wacko I'm sorry about the shitposting in Social Studies, admittedly I've gotten a lot lazier when it comes to detentioning topics that have been resurrected, or given out warnings. I've really just kind of got more bored of that and no other moderator seems to wanna help :\ Jerk has more than enough on his plate at Recess so I can't expect his assistance, so maybe I should consider another moderator to assist with Social Studies. I don't know though, I don't trust people.

It's kind of a pain because I would want to promote someone I know thinks similarly in terms of what is just fooling around and what is genuine shitposting, rather than someone who will be a tightass about having fun. It's a hard middle to reach.

EDIT!!!: I detentioned a shitload of threads, so I'm back in business now!

I'm glad it's just Recess. I don't like dealing with that grey area of inanity, so even if I end up deciding to delete something it won't ever be that big of a deal because no thread in Recess will ever be.

Incidentally, does anyone know where ILB has gone? She hasn't been on in about a month.

[ Note: This was all written in response to Taeshi's original post, before I saw her edit. I will add this much: Maverik and Rukral are moderators, what exactly do they do? ]


I will mention names, since hell, I can take the abuse.

Let's start with Susan. She doesn't express herself on the board much, but when she does, it seems like half the time it's because she's really annoyed at something someone said and she lets loose an unholy barrage at the hapless object of her scorn. I know she's a very blunt person, but I wonder if she's ever tried dealing with people in any other way. Like for example, a kinder, gentler correction that didn't come off as complete denigration delivered at high volume. Sometimes I think of her as an extreme Abbey, shouting down from the bully pulpit (yes, totally misusing that term in an ironic manner). I do know that if I were to pick someone to deal with newbies, it wouldn't be Susan. Patience is definitely not her strong suit.

Next, SushiJaguar. He's very blunt also, and not afraid to call people complete fuckwits if he thinks they deserve it. Hell, half the time I even agree with him (because I get annoyed with certain things too), but the other half I think he could've handled the situation in a better way. For example, offering help or advice to a new person instead of just calling them a retarded idiot. Granted, I think SushiJaguar has been commenting less often of late, and he can occasionally be nice to newbies, at least when greeting them.

Jerk is known for his quick wit, and he absolutely can make fun of your posts if he thinks it's humorous. Occasionally he can cross the line, but most of the time I think his comments are funny and stay on the right side of the line. (Now I hope this isn't just me giving him a pass because he's a friend of mine; please feel free to speak up if you feel otherwise about Jerk.)

I've already spoken of a couple of people who apparently seem to like creating shit threads in Social Studies purely for their own amusement. whf (Snooths) was the principal offender in the past, and now Meowth is following in his footsteps. Seriously, he's created six different variations of Random Chat, all of them rhyming. I have a low tolerance for this kind of stuff, though maybe that's just my Abbey nature.

Now since I seem to have built up a a head of steam, I may as well move on to other categories of lame. There are a few people who will argue you to death with esoteric statements that no one wants to figure out the logic of. These are the people you really, really would like to tell to just shut up, except of course they won't. Craft aids used to be in this category, until he wisely chose to take a break. Currently the most flagrant offender is DMLD96; I can only hope he follows Craft aids' example.

Then there are the run-of-the-mill annoyances. You know those people: they seemingly hang around the forum all day, making about a billion posts, posting in the same thread literally every two minutes, spamming image macros, creating new threads on inconsequential subjects, and so on and so forth. In the past, these actions also extended to roleplaying, posting porn, and hitting on other people in thread and via PM. We have a long history of these kinds of people (Chazfullmetal, Magical box of dirt [aka navi], Apoc, Wolf, TheLightorTheDark, Draixen, Chickety China, Lyxaran, rocknrollDaVE, etc.) Currently we have lt_amazil, Tensa Zangetsu and darkwolf328, among others. My advice for these people? Don't post so much, don't post the first one-liner you think of, don't post new threads unless you're sure they'll generate discussion, make intelligent posts, and don't complain about stupid shit. Read the rules and follow them, ask for help if you need it, be polite, and keep your emotions in check. All these things will help the rest of your fellow forum-goers immensely, and especially the moderators who have to put up with you.

Oh yes, and I really miss ILB. So wonderful, bubbly, and cheerful, and intelligent to boot. The perfect moderator person.
[ Sammy: I can't be certain, but I think ILB is back at school and has chosen not to have any distractions. And 'she' is actually a 'he', or so he claims. ]


Man, I tend to post long things, don't I? Comments, criticism? Fire away.

wacko, on 13 September 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

I knew her as a female for six months, and I won't give in just because she tells me to, dammit.

Every opinion you have ever had is a false dichotomy.

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I think that is the problem - targeting. There is an awful lot of talk about how this forum lets you say what you want, but what is often not accounted for would be the evident backlash. Yes, this is a very free forum, but it isn't as open as you think. Technically, it is like every other forum; you can say what you want if you're willing to accept the consequences - hell, that isn't just this forum, it is life! Sure, I can go to a Christian forum and praise the devil, but I will be banned; I can go to a music forum and tell everyone their tastes suck, but I will be met with a heavy defense; I can come to the BCB forums and tell everyone how gay MLP is, but I have to be ready for people to disagree (By the way, I didn't actually do the first two examples!). The only difference in these forums compared to others is that you have to be a complete fuck to get banned, but that doesn’t give you free reign to shoot your mouth off to your heart’s content – even if you can do so without crossing the line (the line being banned). I'm sure there are some people who are content arguing - I know I enjoy it now and then - but this forum is so hostile that saying anything disagreeable(even if it is honest) can easily turn into a small scale war.

Look, what I said to Suitcase wasn’t exactly a special case (no pun intended). Just because I dislike him to the point I felt it needed to be verbalized and defended, doesn’t mean he is the only one (just the biggest). I could go on for hours explaining why countless people here are complete fucks, and I’m sorry if that is harsh, but this community can just be ridiculous sometimes! I’m not saying I am without flaw either; Wacko, for example, does not like me very much. I don’t care, and I doubt he cares much, either. I’m certainly not going to pull some bullshit like ignoring him, acting passive-aggressive, getting friends to help, waging some involved psychological war with him, making false accusations… ect. I highly doubt he is going to assume I’m completely incapable of forming a coherent thought, either. Of course, even though I give Wacko this same respect does not mean I feel the same way about everyone. I personally feel there are many people here who, if I was to be completely honest and explain all the problems I had with them, would either fly off the handle, ignore me, belittle me, or just hate me.

For a person like me, it is a no win situation. Most people who brag about being able to take honest criticism really can’t, and it is appropriate too, since so many people chronically lie to save face – even the most ‘respectable’ people here. So I either keep quiet to be nice, or I be honest and become pegged a mean, stupid, asshole. At this point, I take a stance in the middle. I wait. I try to be fair, but if someone provokes or annoys me (which they do eventually), I will be honest with them, even if seems mean.

Also, maybe me, of all people, talking about how others can't take a criticism is hypocritical, but I stand by the fact that a criticism and a blunt insult are two different things. I can see a big difference between real sincerity; as opposed too public humiliation, petulant joking, and blatant disregard for another - whether that be through ignoring, underestimating, or insulting.

Don't for a minute think I'm alone in this thought, either. Just because others have not come out and said it forthright like me does not mean they aren't there, and it also doesn't mean there is something wrong with them. I don't blame them. Why would they want to come out, be sincere and honest, as you seem to encourage, only to meet heavy resistance in the form of arguing - that more closely resembles total warfare as opposed to makeshift debate (or possibly formal, I suppose) - and constant joking about something that clearly isn't a joke?

This post has been edited by Meowth: 13 September 2011 - 10:53 PM

I honestly feel very nervous when I'm on here, everyone seems so threatening.

asdf, on 13 September 2011 - 08:51 PM, said:

You better keep your mouth shut unless you want a broken nose
Also Hi Darkwolf

I feel VERY threatened by Murderur, I honestly feel like he wants to kill me, but I can't see why....

asdf, on 13 September 2011 - 09:03 PM, said:

Because you spelled my name wrong that's why Darkwolf

I like the community here.
Sometimes the community here is a bit harsh, and occasionally I see people who are acting like they deserve to get flamed, but mostly the people here are somewhat intelligent and, if not kind, at least honest.

Since were being open, my responses below.

wacko, on 13 September 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

This post has been edited by Pants: 13 September 2011 - 10:37 PM

I lol at Wacko's post cause I love most the people he mentioned by name and in great detail. (Well Sushi and Jerky at least, with Sue it's a love/hate/fuckyoubitch/gotohellyoustupidhick relationship) And honestly it's a whole lot of learning not to get your panties in a bunch when they do insult you.

After getting to know most of the people you mentioned, they aren't bad people. Some are annoying and the ones from Recess were really just a bunch of kids who decided to have to much fun on the anonymity of the Internet.

But really that's just it, this is the Internet there will always be trolls, people who make you angry and you disagree with, and some kid just fucking around for fun. You just have to learn to make fun of yourself and let it go.

Cause honestly, there are people in here who have changed my life and I wouldn't trade what I've learned from them and the time I spent here for anything. I might just be a big sap at heart but it's true, this community has given my some of my best friends in the world and someone I love dearly, so maybe I'm just biased after all.

Leaving_a_Comment, on 13 September 2011 - 10:41 PM, said:

Leaving_a_Comment said:

If your not part of the community, trying to shine the light badly on another member doesn't come across well. If you have an opinion, say it. Image macro and old quoting doesn't explain anything, especially out of context.

wat

Unexpected.

This post has been edited by Hero: 14 September 2011 - 12:14 AM

Pants, on 14 September 2011 - 12:11 AM, said:

I disagree with this post
I also knew whf would post that

Murderer, on 14 September 2011 - 12:18 AM, said:

09 July 2011 - 01:11 AM

Clearly came back for a jab or defending his character only. So back to the point, tell me why an old quote and image macro explains anything.

AHAHAHAHAH OH MY GOD I LOVE YOU SNOOTHALS. That was a glorious quote ahahahah.

Naw guys it's cool, me and whf go way back, like that's atleast a year old quote from when a MMG. It was a stupid game I took to literally but we both had a good laugh at it now.

LOOK AT ME GETTING OVER SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST OH MY GOD SO PROGRESSIVE.

Leaving_a_Comment, on 14 September 2011 - 12:27 AM, said:

Way to ruin my confrontation and drama. Whore

why would i make an alt/ post under an alt after i had broken my silence and posted once? that doesnt make any sense to me. i dont even know who murderer is.

im not defending shit because i dont have to. i came across this thread and realized that everyone was talkin about me and i saw lacommie post and decided i couldnt resist. it was a post that pointed out the irony in her current statement and also how much she has changed her opinion on dealing with people (such as me!!!!!). i thought it was funny and not really putting a bad light on anyone since she now finds the fact that she had such a hatred for me funny. we were both looking for that quote for a while because it was so ridiculous and i found it and thought it would be an appropriate time to post it.

now everyone get the fuck off my dick

whf, on 14 September 2011 - 12:29 AM, said:

Sorry, dick is warm.

I don't follow your alts, called it as I saw it. Fecked up, saw it wrong. Can I still blame you anyways?

But point shown excellent, I was a bitchy teen girl and got all pissy and up in arms over a stupid game. BUT after Jerk of all people told me to chill and get to know whf before getting all "Worst person ever omigosh such a trollzorz " I realized that he really is a cool dude.

I actually kinda hate myself for that post now, good god was I always that annoying?

Leaving_a_Comment, on 14 September 2011 - 12:44 AM, said:

I used to get really mad at people on the Internet, then I realized I don't give a shit about the Internet.

I like how snooths implied this was a topic about himself. So vain~ A few mentions in the middle of the second page does not equal a topic about you.

Also Wacko if it helps I detentioned Meowth topics on my spring cleaning. The rose-tinted glasses I felt about him are gone so I won't be biased anymore

vanity

This post has been edited by whf: 06 November 2011 - 04:59 PM

So your snooths?
The guy who sounds like the colosel shit fuck?
Aparently I heard wrong!
....hi?

This post has been edited by asdf: 14 September 2011 - 02:41 AM

When I first saw one of Snooths' post I immediately knew that this person is awesome. I was right.

Haha, 'mother' Taeshi is making everyone play nice

Also, no complaints about me, sweet. This thread is messssssed.

@Pants, you address the behaviour of some members by saying that is just how they are and that you should ignore them when they are like that. I hardly think that excuses them though, especially to new members who are not aware of what they are like yet.

matty_batty0, on 14 September 2011 - 02:44 AM, said:

New members ask too many questions. I lurked this forum for about a month, so I knew what this place was like before I made an account. When I see people join I carefully watch their every post.

This post has been edited by Murderer: 14 September 2011 - 03:20 AM

Well yeah but you are roleplaying as some creepy murderer, not everyone likes to lurk for days or weeks. Many people who are new to forums probably don't even know what you mean when you say they should lurk. You shouldn't need to do weeks of research just to have a discussion about a comic you found on the internet which you liked.

This post has been edited by matty_batty0: 14 September 2011 - 02:55 AM

matty_batty0, on 14 September 2011 - 02:53 AM, said:

I'm not roleplaying I lurk because I want to know what the community is like. This way I can know how the members act like and learn facts about the community.

Taeshi, on 14 September 2011 - 01:32 AM, said:

Well, that's one less bias to worry about.

Better to be biased about the antics of people on a forum about cats than be biased against the rights of women, correct?

(seriously get over it, you're pretty bad at being passive aggressive. Sorry that you have backwards opinions and were proven wrong.)

Lol. That came out of nowhere, it apparently bothers you more than me. I was generally speaking about forum bias, but whatever you say, boss.

Also snooths holy shit you're so freaked vain, Jerk was the original and we take no substitutes

No you've been acting really passive aggressive ever since and I found it laughable, you even referenced it directly in the introduction thread, so don't backpedal on me.

Taeshi, on 14 September 2011 - 03:18 AM, said:

What an amazing day today turned out to be.

In the old IRC I used to frequent I was KNOWN for defending people when they were banned. Man this habit of mine is not new >8(

Haha what the shonkys, I thought this thread was supposed to be about peace and harmony and tolerance and loving your brother, all that stuff

My opinion on this community is that everybody here is a mega troll who is mean to innocent members.

'Laughable' is an interesting choice of words considering your choice of words included in your condemning of my opinion. I've always been passive aggressive, you just now notice it.

There is no backpedaling. I could care less about any personal bias against me. I was referring to the forum as a whole.

skmojo, on 14 September 2011 - 03:21 AM, said:

It is about it, doesn't mean it has to include it.

I mean laughable with the passive aggression, like "oh this person is still mad", not the opinion in general, which is still misguided and ignorant

If I'm blunt will I be 5% cooler?

I wasn't mad, silly. It was just a friendly reminder of how much I enjoyed our convo. Also, I just like to tease. Honest.

matty_batty0, on 14 September 2011 - 03:30 AM, said:

What makes it even funnier is how everyone's avatar is mandatorily 'cute'