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Mostly fracaso by Jackkuro

This was really hard to post. I know that if anyone sees this they will not like it and while I really want to improove, and for that I need critique, but at the same time I am kind of afraid :3 Besides I haven't really been good at writing or drawing in my life.

So in short I just grabbed my pen opened Word and wrote what came off the top of my head (It's easily noticeable (You know, cause it sucks))

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Yes, it sucks, but would you kindly read it and say why it sucks? I really need critique, the harsh variety of it.

Also a Mike practice sketch so the title isn't too unjustified
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And now I will go regret this on the corner.

This post has been edited by jackkuro: 02 December 2011 - 05:57 PM

  • #1

HEHEY you started your own art thread :D

You criticize yourself too much, we all start from somewhere :( (y fracaso = and failure? >:O )

The story was pretty basic, it was nice but nothing special and I think you spent a little too much time describing certain things (like the voice)

Im glad you started this thread, waiting to see more art, writing and less failure :D
  • #2

Another practice sketch. It still sucks.
BUT I'LL GET BETTER GODDAMNIT.
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Also, thanks Gabu.
  • #3

View Postjackkuro, on 07 November 2011 - 05:35 PM, said:

BUT I'LL GET BETTER GODDAMNIT.


that's the spirit :smirk:

The tail looks a bit "fat" but other than that I think it looks pretty good :D
  • #4

Your story was wonderful. Aside from a few grammatical errors, very few grammatical errors I might add, I thought it was perfect. Your art is cute, and pretty good. A hell of a lot better than I can do. Lucy's tail looks a little like a light bulb they way it fattens out at the end, but that's my only complaint. :)
  • #5

Thanks nate :3

OMG THAT TAIL IS SO FAT HOW COME I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT BEFORE AAAAAAAAAAAA

also, I was gonna draw, but I am a lazy guy, so instead MOAR FANFIC OMG

Once again, it doesn't have that much thought put in it, but this time I decided to go for a different narrative style, because you know, sticking to one is boring and stuff :3

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Let’s see if I continue it later, maybe in a different narrative too :3
  • #6

Continue it. Oh please please please continue it. It implies PauloxLucy. Continue it now. :love:
  • #7

Small update time
Ugh, is it awkward to write in first person perspective if it isn’t self-insert. From now on, only Mike from first person narrative XD
Well, time to continue.
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From now on, I’ll write only with omniscient narrator. This is hard :P
  • #8

Well you certainly have the right mindset. :D
Keep it up and you'll find yourself better than ever before you know it. c:
  • #9

Oh hey look what I found.
Just read this first part of your fanfic, going over it with a steel comb now.

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It was snowing, but he didn’t feel cold at all. He didn’t need anything but his fur and scarf to keep him warm after all. Maybe that was because he was running. He was running really fast, like someone was chasing him, even though he was alone on the street. The street was completely silent, and only illuminated by some street lights. However Mike didn’t care about that, he had just realized something a couple of minutes ago, and at the time, nothing else mattered to him.


The bold words represent repetition, you use the same words so close to one another it really breaks the pace. Like 'street' for example. You use it three times just a sentence's apart."The street, the street, the street." You don't always have to use street, you can use road or lane or boulevard.

The underlined segment also shows repetition. "He was running. he was running really fast." This can work as a sentence if you use a comma, conjunction or a semicolon, like so:

"He was running, he was running really fast"
"He was running, and he was running REALLY fast." (emphasis to show voice, and to exaggerate. You don't have to do this, but it's personally something I enjoy)
"He was running; he was running really fast."

Other than that I say to reword the sentence, we get he was running but is he just running or is he sprinting?

"He was sprinting down the road like a bullet out of the chamber etc. etc."


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The thoughts ringed on his ears: “How could I be so stupid”, “She was right all along”, “I’ve been a jerk”, “I must tell her now”.
Time began to pass. He had run all the while, and while he had run with an objective, he realized he had no way of knowing where he was running towards. He slowed the march and began to walk, What would be the implications of his actions? If he said what he thought right now to her… “Maybe she will overreact”, “Maybe she will take this the wrong way”. He completely stopped. There was no need to meet Lucy in person, he could just call her, he could just wait until tomorrow. “Maybe that will be better” he finally thought and turned around.
His heart beat violently. His mind raced, but only came to one obvious conclusion.
“I must be dreaming”
Snow kept falling. Everything the street light illuminated was white. Everything except for the pink ribbon and the blue eyes.


In the italicized text, I stress that you do just that. Put them in italics. It'll be much easier to pick out that they're thoughts.

Also, another personal but useful preference of mine. Put each thought on a separate line, it makes the prose dramatic and it's easier to read. Two " should never be next to each other.

Repetition of 'while.'

If you can pick it out, you see that I underlined the comma. One, it's a comma and 'What' shouldn't be capitalized. Two I believe the whole "What would be the complications...." line should be it's one separate line, not pieced together. It carries weight and can stand alone. Same with the other underlined line, it'll look neater.

Also, "His heart beat violently. His mind raced..." Replace that period with a comma since it has the same main idea as the rest of the sentence.

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Lucy” Mike whispered.
She just stood there. Mike did too. For about twenty seconds they just stood there, in the snowy way and under the streetlight.
“Lucy” Mike said, a little louder than before.
Lucy flinched after hearing Mike say her name, but she recovered her composure quickly.
“Wha... what do you want?” She said, her voice really low. “What are you doing here?” she asked, now saying it with her normal voice.
Mike was quiet. He didn’t know what to say. After all, not an hour ago Lucy tried to talk to him and he just cut her off and left.
Lucy frowned, “If you’ve got nothing to say, get out of the way”.
Mike was impressed, last time he heard Lucy speak she talked softly and low, but now she sounded loud and… aggressive.
“Lucy, I… I gotta tell you something.” Mike said the loudest he could.
“Say it then, I don’t have all day”
There was only more silence in response.
“I don’t have your time, Jerk-face”
Mike saw Lucy walking his way, and then she shoved him off the way.
He could hear her sobbing.


Repetition of 'stood there' and 'Mike did too' could be constructed better. Maybe a 'and Mike did as well' or 'Mike did the same.' would suffice.

Loudest? I don't think this is the right situation to use that form for the word. How about, "as loud as he could?'

You need some sort of period/ellipses/exclamation mark here after "day"

In the italicized text, I didn't understand the sentence at all. Maybe it's just because it's late and i'm tired but the sentence made no sense.

'Off' should be 'out' :smirk:



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He just stood there. He wasn’t able to say it.
“No” he thought. “Not this time”.
“Lucy!” He yelled down the road. “Lucy!”
“WHAT” She turned around, with a tired look on her face.
“Lucy... I... You… I’m... I’m sorry” Mike finally said.
Snow kept falling on the street. The snowflakes just kept falling, like nothing had happened.
He finally apologized, and although it didn’t go as planned, it finally happened. They could go back to be friends. It was hard for him to be that harsh to Lucy all that time, but he swallowed his pride, he had finally realized Lucy had done nothing wrong.
Mike heard a weak response.
“Is that all?”


Underlined text: These are thoughts, I recommend putting them in italics or getting rid of the ""

In the bolded text, these two sentences are the exact same just worded differently, get rid of one of them and join the remaining with a comma.

Other than this I like were it's going! I like myself some BCB fan fiction, and I'll go over those future chapters soon. We all start somewhere #^_^#
  • #10

Damn right I have the right mindset Rakshiv :D

Thank you so much Shada for the critique, I really need it. I know it sucks, but knowing why it sucks makes it so much easier to improve. Some of those things you pointed out I did on purpose though. I've been reading too much consciousness flow and it took over my brain.

Also, random sketch. Shitty sketch.

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  • #11

And then that sketch became an experiment. I tried out SAI and the vectors, and this is the result.

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  • #12

Hey that looks cool, nice shading.
  • #13

I forgot to thank Hero. Stupid brain :nope:

OK, I hated that Lucy sketch/drawing, but since I can colour a little better now, I remade it.

It sucks a little less, but still does nonetheless.

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I gotta learn how to do backgrounds now.

This post has been edited by jackkuro: 28 December 2011 - 03:13 AM

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I think you should do some more about pencil sketching first before you worry about backgrounds. Backgrounds are tricky, wondrous things, they are, and after all this time I still don't understand completely how they work! D:

Your pencil works there have a lot of potential hidden in them, and while already I see improvement in the way of your digital overlays, I think it would be very helpful to try and finish a piece in pencil, just to see how it goes. C:
  • #15

I guess you're right Raks. I'll work on my pencil mad skillz. Actually I suck terribly with the good ol' lápiz grafito, but I'll see what I can do. And what better way to be completely out of context than with another writing update.

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This post has been edited by jackkuro: 17 March 2012 - 01:42 AM

  • #16

So... since I don't want that fail post to be the last post round here, I'll upload a couple of drawings that while might suck, do not suck as hard as a fail post.

See?

ok...

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I'm gonna buy a fucking scanner, this quality is unforgivable.

This post has been edited by jackkuro: 25 November 2011 - 07:09 PM

  • #17

Last update for a while.
Hope you like it. If you don't, post why. It helps on getting better and stuff.

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Edit. Added tail, a failed (Really failed) left arm and some colors.

This post has been edited by jackkuro: 28 November 2011 - 11:50 AM

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O_O y su cola?... sobre todo... su mano izquierda? D:
Pero aun asi esta muy bueno :)

This post has been edited by Katara00176: 27 November 2011 - 07:46 PM

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Me base en una imagen de Charlie Brown, y por perspectiva no se ve la mano izq.

Pero en realidad me olvide de la cola :C
  • #20

Something about left arm, tail and charlie brown :D

The Mike and Flaky ones are pretty good ;)
  • #21

No, they are shit, but thanks for trying :3

I'll update that Abbey drawing.
Eventually.
Now it bothers me immensely.
  • #22

So...

yeah.

More writting.

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Is meant to be a continuation of the first story. A short and unnecesary one.

It still sucks. Once again, if you read it, please say what can be improved or is overall bad so I can get better.
  • #23

RC finally decided to comment on your stuff! :O

WRITING(prose) :
The first story. It's so sad.. I'm definitely gripped, especially because I can easily imagine the scene., It's really strong visually. You're certainly a respectable writer, kudos. The coninuation, I reread while listening to Lilium(music box version) and it just made so much sense..
I have a problem with one line, though:

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Saying that he was sorry again was going to be weird, but he couldn’t think of another way to make Lucy repeat herself.
That's a given, don't underestimate your reader. I think you kind of do that a lot, but this just stuck out. Overall, though, I certainly enjoyed it.

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His smile, so full of self-confidence. I felt my worries go away.
I lovelovelove the first sentence, but the second one just interrupts the flow. Wouldn't something like, "I couldn't help it; I smiled back" or "a little bit of me melted" make more sense? Like, less formal. GODIMSOINELOQUENT ._. You captured it perfectly in this line:We were quiet in awkward silence after that for like ten seconds.



The second one, from Lucy's POV seems..choppy..? IT's just, you don't seem to capture her thoughts the way she'd think. She's not quite as reasonable, and a lot of emotions should never be flat out said, like:

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I felt a little sad when Mike got up and said goodbye to everyone but me, but I am beginning to get used to it.
. Of course, I've always thought first person is the hardest, especially when the character's someone elses, but yeah, just watch out for that. I guess a more suiting alternative would be a little more colloquial, less polished.


WRITING(poetry) :

I like poetry. I love your poetry.

I like how you use periods instead of question marks making it feel monotone, but then you switch in the last second and just looks a bit awkward.
Anyways, it's all sad, and I want to draw you a hug somehow. ;_; CourseIthinkeveryoneangstsbutSTILL

ART:

Abbey looks like a Peanuts character. :P Oh, and you speak Spanish? :O I had no idea!

Lucy's tail looks like there's gonna be a butterfly hatching from it soon- make it a bit scruffier/fluffier. Unlike the figurine, you don't have the disadvantage of having to make it look awesome at all angles. ;) The redo did help, though.
I'm also glad I finally know the origins of that first avatar I saw of yours. 8-D

And is that a cupcake porcupine? It's cute..

Also, if you're using a program with layers, take advantage and erase the checkerboxes. ;) You can kill the entire bg layer if you have the outlines and coloring on a different layer.



Overall, I like your writing a lot, and I'm hoping more. Keep working on art. You're on the right track! ;)
  • #24

I... I guess...

THANKS SO MUCH OMG THERE ARE NO WORDS TO THANK YOU ENOUGH AAAAAA
(Hey, sad writing is the best writing :3)

The critique is much needed as well.
If anyone else is there to comment please be as harsh as you wish.
  • #25

Keke, I'm a few of my friends' go-to editor. Not Nate's, a sadly I'm too mesmerized and I gush too much, but yeah, critique is fun. >:D Consider it your christmas present because I like you. ;D
  • #26

  • Chris
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every artist I have seen on this forum is really self-depricating. I don't get it! you are good at this. just don't be so hard on yourself!

This post has been edited by Chris: 25 December 2011 - 09:56 PM

  • #27

heh. While I thank you (And I mean really thank you) for thinking I am good at this, I know only my writing is... salvageable? My drawings are poop :3

BUT I'LL GET BETTER DAMN IT >:(
  • #28

Are Wacom Bamboo's available in your area? They should be relatively inexpensive and worth a try. I'm curious to see what you'd do with a tablet.

And I see no failure here, just talent waiting to be developed. To be honest, it all looks pretty darn cute.

Note: I haven't had the chance to read any of your writing yet, but I will later on this week.
  • #29

WHY ARE PEOPLE SUDDENDLY POSTING HERE >///<

uhh, I bought my sister a tablet not too long ago, and if I have to be honest, it was a pain in the ass just to find one. I ended up buying her a cheap Imation tablet, not too good, but sufficient. I'll go check some stores out and see if I can buy one cause I actually have wanted one for some time.

AND EVERYTHING HERE IS FAILURE.
IN DIFFERENT DEGREES BUT STILL.

This post has been edited by jackkuro: 28 December 2011 - 03:10 AM

  • #30

Ok, so for whatever reason I can’t draw. And I wanted to do something, so I wrote.
Be warned, this was written rather quickly and I haven't slept in a while, so quality is most likely really poopy.
Soo…

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I am not sure how I feel about this story. I guess I kinda like it, which is why I posted it, but it seems... shitty.
I do not know why.

I'll most likely continue it later, but for now the brain juice has run dry. Thinking ideas is hard :C

I think I’ll write something original next time unless inspiration or an idea comes or something.
Maybe some of you can give me ideas. I guess it’d be a written request? That sounds odd :3

As usual critique is encouraged. C'mon, it's a chance to be as mean as you want and I'll thank you for it. What are you waiting for.

This post has been edited by jackkuro: 28 December 2011 - 03:47 AM

  • #31

I can't draw anymore.

Because reasons.

So... I just plagiated Jim Davies's Garfield and Odie, and now I post them here.

No, I do not know either.

Images are gigantic and in horrible quality.

I must get the scanner. It is a necesity.

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Fun story, that Odie drawing is associated to something I deeply regret. Yay :D
  • #32

So I've been a little depressed lately, and I wanted to write stuffs, but since I didn't want to write anything depressing it turned out to be the most retarded thing in the history of ever. Why am I posting this here? I really am not sure. At all.
So... here it is :3

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  • #33

Oh come on, you can draw
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I.. I guess I can? Albeit (lol inventing words so much fun), horribly, but it's something I can do.
  • #35

No. While raw and in need of development, you DO have talent. How do I know this? Talentless people make drawings that are unpleasant to look at. Really, they make my eyes bleed. Your drawings don't. In fact, they're pleasant to look at. Stop putting yourself down and practice, maybe look at some references or take an art class or two. You won't get anywhere by saying you suck.
  • #36

This has been rotting for like a month, so I'll upload some drawings.

Be noted, whatever drawing skill I had flew away from me. I filled like 10 pages of my trusty notebook with shitty drawings and only two were passable.

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Oh, before you check, I still haven't gotten a tablet nor a scanner. So don't expect too much :3

Edit: Ok I passed the Thyplosion drawing through SAI and this is the result.

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This post has been edited by jackkuro: 19 February 2012 - 01:42 AM

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  • Chris
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You should post that story that you wrote in the stream last night! :3

This post has been edited by Chris: 20 February 2012 - 01:14 AM

  • #38

That I will :3

Gentlemen, ladies, be prepared, as nobody should set eyes in this story. Contains dangerous ammount of "Hawly shit written in 10/20 minutes". Should also point out that it was written during Kapitain's stream of Castlevania and with the intended purpose for it to be read by Chris.

so... here it is :)

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View Postjackkuro, on 20 February 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:

That I will :3

Gentlemen, ladies, be prepared, as nobody should set eyes in this story. Contains dangerous ammount of "Hawly shit written in 10/20 minutes". Should also point out that it was written during Kapitain's stream of Castlevania and with the intended purpose for it to be read by Chris.

so... here it is :)

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ahh good times, good times
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