How long until Rex has "Hey guys stop killing babies" under his name in red text?
SAYING YOU SUPPORT ABORTION IS LIKE KILLING JEWS
- Dr. Klaus
Member
I don't give a shit when life begins. Life ends. Who the fuck cares.
If the baby can't be supported, it should be gotten rid of easily instead of being forced to suffer a life of pain and problems.
And honestly, I don't give a shit about human life at all. We've hit seven billion already. That's six billion over a reasonable amount. Problem is, the "authorities" and people with power will try to stop people from doing killing and other shit. We need to bring back proper eugenics. None of that superficial Aryan bullshit. The real anti-heart disease, anti-mental disorder, anti-major physical disability stuff. Man, if I weren't going into a career in film, I'd pursue a career in bioengineering and create a plague that wipes out 3/4 of the human race.
Thin the herd.
Also, at least 50% of that goddamn child is physically YOU. The other 50% is your hookup. Be it a spouse, where it's usually consented to an abortion, or rape, where the father has abandoned all of the responsibilities.
If the baby can't be supported, it should be gotten rid of easily instead of being forced to suffer a life of pain and problems.
And honestly, I don't give a shit about human life at all. We've hit seven billion already. That's six billion over a reasonable amount. Problem is, the "authorities" and people with power will try to stop people from doing killing and other shit. We need to bring back proper eugenics. None of that superficial Aryan bullshit. The real anti-heart disease, anti-mental disorder, anti-major physical disability stuff. Man, if I weren't going into a career in film, I'd pursue a career in bioengineering and create a plague that wipes out 3/4 of the human race.
Thin the herd.
Also, at least 50% of that goddamn child is physically YOU. The other 50% is your hookup. Be it a spouse, where it's usually consented to an abortion, or rape, where the father has abandoned all of the responsibilities.
This post has been edited by Dr. Klaus: 08 November 2011 - 01:13 AM
- #53
- 08 November 2011 - 01:13 AM
- RickAstley
- Member
Kaxbe, on 08 November 2011 - 01:07 AM, said:
I want to talk more about the Neo-Nazi
Nazis were cooler back in the day when Hitler was alive.
- #54
- 08 November 2011 - 01:14 AM
- Supah
- Member
Oh what a tricky guy. Talking about how bad Hitler was killing Jews and putting them in concentration camps then carefully drifting into anti abortion arguments.
Everyone has a choice, why do religious groups always want to push their religious morals on everyone else?
That nazi guy was pretty funny though. Massive ass Mohawk shouting "fuck america its run by jews!"
Everyone has a choice, why do religious groups always want to push their religious morals on everyone else?
That nazi guy was pretty funny though. Massive ass Mohawk shouting "fuck america its run by jews!"
This post has been edited by Supah: 08 November 2011 - 01:34 AM
- #56
- 08 November 2011 - 01:31 AM
- Jerk
- Member
I'll bet Gabe's video would confuse the shit of this place.
- #57
- 08 November 2011 - 01:37 AM
- Rex
- Member
RickAstley, on 08 November 2011 - 01:07 AM, said:
How long until Rex has "Hey guys stop killing babies" under his name in red text?
Hopefully an infinite amount of time away from now
Although Dr Klaus does have a point. I'm not agreeing with killing six billion people, but overpopulation is one of the core things destroying the earth.
- #59
- 08 November 2011 - 02:31 AM
- BasketCase
- Worse than SoulTH
Banned 
-sigh- well, people don't like to hear that the earth is over populated 
- #62
- 08 November 2011 - 02:44 AM
- star adder
- Member
so, what do you think of abortion Taeshi?
as a mature women, id figure you'd be against it.
as a mature women, id figure you'd be against it.
- #65
- 08 November 2011 - 02:57 AM
- Taeshi
- one hot bitch
Administrator 
I actually argue about it a lot here: http://www.bitterswe...ic/595-abortion
But I will just quote it because I'm too lazy to write what I think again:
But I will just quote it because I'm too lazy to write what I think again:
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I like how people get all "We should take it seriously because if we don't people will have abortions left and right!"
Yes because abortions are totally pleasant. I'm pretty confident nobody goes around gloating about about many times a child was ripped out of them. There's even been some studies where people who face a successful abortion have a chance of suffering through some emotional scarring. They get depressed.
Abortion is NOT nice. It's SERIOUS in its own right. Which is why I think the worry about it becoming commonplace and "tee hee i liek gettin it" is stupid. It's not pleasant, it can be painful, it can have complications, but people should have the right to do it if they don't want to raise a child. Just because they have the right doesn't mean the world is suddenly gonna take full advantage and it'll become normal.
I mean I have basically come to the conclusion that if Souppy knocks me up at this point in time (hoping not, considering I'm protected with DA PILL), I WILL abort. It's a case where he just casually thinks that. But it's not like i'm looking forward to whenever that might happen! I certainly hope it NEVER happens and that I get pregnant when I'm good and ready for it. But the choice is at least there, I can at least be comforted with the idea that I will not be forced to raise a child I don't want. It's really my body. There's many things people do that I don't think is right, but I let them do it because it's their right. And I don't want to take that option away from them.
Yes because abortions are totally pleasant. I'm pretty confident nobody goes around gloating about about many times a child was ripped out of them. There's even been some studies where people who face a successful abortion have a chance of suffering through some emotional scarring. They get depressed.
Abortion is NOT nice. It's SERIOUS in its own right. Which is why I think the worry about it becoming commonplace and "tee hee i liek gettin it" is stupid. It's not pleasant, it can be painful, it can have complications, but people should have the right to do it if they don't want to raise a child. Just because they have the right doesn't mean the world is suddenly gonna take full advantage and it'll become normal.
I mean I have basically come to the conclusion that if Souppy knocks me up at this point in time (hoping not, considering I'm protected with DA PILL), I WILL abort. It's a case where he just casually thinks that. But it's not like i'm looking forward to whenever that might happen! I certainly hope it NEVER happens and that I get pregnant when I'm good and ready for it. But the choice is at least there, I can at least be comforted with the idea that I will not be forced to raise a child I don't want. It's really my body. There's many things people do that I don't think is right, but I let them do it because it's their right. And I don't want to take that option away from them.
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Anyway, I dunno, I think it should be allowed not because I think people should have slap-happy abortions, but so the choice is THERE. So it's a choice, and if you don't want to take it then power to you! That's great that you won't ever be in that awkward position. But for example with Aika, she doesn't want to do it. Even if abortion was legal where she lives, I seriously doubt she's gonna change her mind.
So for people who don't wanna do it, that's fine. But just because you don't want to do it doesn't mean everyone else should not be allowed. At least the choice is there amongst a bunch of other choices like adoption, and whatever else is up to you. I think that's most fair.
So for people who don't wanna do it, that's fine. But just because you don't want to do it doesn't mean everyone else should not be allowed. At least the choice is there amongst a bunch of other choices like adoption, and whatever else is up to you. I think that's most fair.
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Hahahahah, exactly. Though it seems like pro-choice reads exactly like that to some people. "We will become baby-killin' society, rraarr"
I mean goodness, it's like gay marriage. It's their freaken business! If you don't wanna get married to the same gender, awesome. Good for you. But just because you think it's icky doesn't mean you should limit people from making that choice for themselves. (though god i don't wanna suddenly turn this into that topic, but I mean that's another example I think. I would never marry someone of the same gender. I don't have the attraction, but I understand those who do. Those who truly feel that connection to someone that just so happens to have the same genitals as you. It's none of my business what they want to do, and I applaud if they want to marry just like anybody else)
BUT TO GO BACK ON TOPIC, I also think it's kind of not a big deal to delete a whole bunch of cells. I mean if you're six months pregnant, then geez that's kind of too late? They can probably feel the pain. But when they're just developing it's just a load of tissue and shit and it isn't really that big of a deal. I mean people get inconvenient tumours taken out during surgery.. and I'm sure it's alive in a way because it depends on you, but it's not like a living breathing conscious being.
in before "OH NO TAESHI R U CALLIN CHILDREN TUMOURS?!?!?!?!?!?"
I mean goodness, it's like gay marriage. It's their freaken business! If you don't wanna get married to the same gender, awesome. Good for you. But just because you think it's icky doesn't mean you should limit people from making that choice for themselves. (though god i don't wanna suddenly turn this into that topic, but I mean that's another example I think. I would never marry someone of the same gender. I don't have the attraction, but I understand those who do. Those who truly feel that connection to someone that just so happens to have the same genitals as you. It's none of my business what they want to do, and I applaud if they want to marry just like anybody else)
BUT TO GO BACK ON TOPIC, I also think it's kind of not a big deal to delete a whole bunch of cells. I mean if you're six months pregnant, then geez that's kind of too late? They can probably feel the pain. But when they're just developing it's just a load of tissue and shit and it isn't really that big of a deal. I mean people get inconvenient tumours taken out during surgery.. and I'm sure it's alive in a way because it depends on you, but it's not like a living breathing conscious being.
in before "OH NO TAESHI R U CALLIN CHILDREN TUMOURS?!?!?!?!?!?"
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I bring up Aika as an example again. She has just as much of a right to refuse abortion for herself than for me to accept it if that were ever to happen. Which I DON'T wanna happen. So see, I am taking it seriously!!! It is something I imagine myself doing, but I wouldn't be looking forward to it! Which is why I take enough contraception to keep me protected so that doesn't happen. Abortion isn't just some "lah dee dah" whatever thing for me. It's a choice, but a choice I would hope I'm never in the position to make.
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People can do whatever they want. If they wanna abort, awesome. If they wanna put the baby for adoption, awesome. If they wanna take care of the baby, awesome. I might have preconceived opinions like thinking "god why do you wanna keep the baby at 17 you're gonna ruin your life", but at the end of the day it's their decision. Not mine.
I know life after conception, and to be honest there's a lot of lives that are pretty damn miserable. It then becomes a game of "what if".. we don't know in the end. But I don't feel it's my place to tell people what to do with their body when it comes to being pregnant. I mean, it's fine to give advice. It's fine to give your opinion. But if the person is really sure about "keeping the baby" or "giving it away", well it really is their choice. The next step is to aid them in that choice.
I know life after conception, and to be honest there's a lot of lives that are pretty damn miserable. It then becomes a game of "what if".. we don't know in the end. But I don't feel it's my place to tell people what to do with their body when it comes to being pregnant. I mean, it's fine to give advice. It's fine to give your opinion. But if the person is really sure about "keeping the baby" or "giving it away", well it really is their choice. The next step is to aid them in that choice.
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third trimester is when it gets really freaken grey about the baby's consciousness and ability to feel pain. It's no longer just a lump of cells.
- #66
- 08 November 2011 - 03:12 AM
- BasketCase
- Worse than SoulTH
Banned
And there's the icing on the cake
- #67
- 08 November 2011 - 03:20 AM
- Rex
- Member
Meh. Its always been (and always will be) just whatever that person believes. Nothing is going to kick abortion into high gear, and nothing is going to smother it enough to make it a uncommon practice. Perhaps (most of) you might disagree with my stance on it. Maybe it does seem counter-productive and like I am trying to make decisions for someone else. Realize that I am not trying to change anyone's ways though. I just am personally against it and I don't like getting my ass chewed out because of that. People used to poke fun of me for my age, then they poked fun at me for being christian, then they poked fun at me for being republican, and apparently my pro-life stance is getting my ass chewed too. I like having my own opinions and the internet is doing a fine job of making me feel like my views are disgusting.
- #70
- 08 November 2011 - 03:31 AM
- BasketCase
- Worse than SoulTH
Banned
Abortion is a iffy topic.
And that's what propaganda is, to change the minds to the way you think.
And that's what propaganda is, to change the minds to the way you think.
- #71
- 08 November 2011 - 03:32 AM
- BasketCase
- Worse than SoulTH
Banned
Kaxbe. shut up. This is why you never bring up politics in the first place. 
- #73
- 08 November 2011 - 03:38 AM
- BasketCase
- Worse than SoulTH
Banned
And you made a shitpost turn into a shitstorm.
- #75
- 08 November 2011 - 03:44 AM
- Gryphonn
- Member
I'll talk about the propaganda
We should probably be a bit worried about how 14 people have not heard of Hitler....
Whats quite interesting is how dear Ray manages to convince the people hes talking to that the mass deportation and killing of entire populations over 60 years ago is somehow morally equivalent to an abortion. Despite the fact that the vast majority of abortions happen before the formation of the fetus' complex bio systems, he still gets them to talk about the 'baby' and killing the 'baby' and how this one act is somehow the same as the industrial process of gassing millions of people.
It really seems more like some elaborate con-trick where hes getting you to think and then speak in the language he wants, I mean how could anyone be for killing babies? And then he just leads them on until they trap themselves in a corner. I'd like to know how many people he interviewed for this, cos I suspect many of the people who were like 'I'd have buried them and hosed them, no difference' probably were not included in the video.
If most of the people had been honest they would probably have said, 'yeah I'd have been so scared shitless at the prospect of being shot I'd have done anything to avoid it' Kinda blasting his 'so you value human life' approach to smithereens
His challenge about the bulldozer vs machine gun is also stupid, because he never seems to make it clear whether the whole situation is the same in each case. I.E. they will die regardless of what you do, with the machine gun he doesn't make that clear I thought.
I also hate his fucking 'you deny god's existence because your subconsciously afraid of his judgement' attitude.
We should probably be a bit worried about how 14 people have not heard of Hitler....
Whats quite interesting is how dear Ray manages to convince the people hes talking to that the mass deportation and killing of entire populations over 60 years ago is somehow morally equivalent to an abortion. Despite the fact that the vast majority of abortions happen before the formation of the fetus' complex bio systems, he still gets them to talk about the 'baby' and killing the 'baby' and how this one act is somehow the same as the industrial process of gassing millions of people.
It really seems more like some elaborate con-trick where hes getting you to think and then speak in the language he wants, I mean how could anyone be for killing babies? And then he just leads them on until they trap themselves in a corner. I'd like to know how many people he interviewed for this, cos I suspect many of the people who were like 'I'd have buried them and hosed them, no difference' probably were not included in the video.
If most of the people had been honest they would probably have said, 'yeah I'd have been so scared shitless at the prospect of being shot I'd have done anything to avoid it' Kinda blasting his 'so you value human life' approach to smithereens
His challenge about the bulldozer vs machine gun is also stupid, because he never seems to make it clear whether the whole situation is the same in each case. I.E. they will die regardless of what you do, with the machine gun he doesn't make that clear I thought.
I also hate his fucking 'you deny god's existence because your subconsciously afraid of his judgement' attitude.
This post has been edited by Gryphonn: 08 November 2011 - 04:22 AM
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- 08 November 2011 - 03:44 AM
- Taeshi
- one hot bitch
Administrator
I can understand your desire to make it more about the video than just yet another abortion topic since we had like two of them already, but it isn't really helping with the shitposting, actively get it back into topic then.
See Gryphonn got it rollin'
Rex: There's nothing wrong with opinions, except the ones that cause you to want to limit the rights of others. That's when it's terrible and scummy.
See Gryphonn got it rollin'
Rex: There's nothing wrong with opinions, except the ones that cause you to want to limit the rights of others. That's when it's terrible and scummy.
- #77
- 08 November 2011 - 03:44 AM
- Rex
- Member
Kaxbe, on 08 November 2011 - 03:37 AM, said:
Hey, Rex, what is your stance on death penalty? How do you feel about basic humanitarianism such as taking care of tge poor? How do you feel about pollution and its effect on the ecosystem?
You're not pro-life, you're anti-choice. There's a difference.
You're not pro-life, you're anti-choice. There's a difference.
What the hell man. Anti-choice? I spent that whole post explaining how I am not trying to stop people from having their choice. My personal view is that abortion is wrong. If someone were to ask me if they should get one, I would tell them no. They still have that choice.
As for the top paragraph, wuh..? I feel the way I want to feel about that stuff. What is with you trying to make me feel bad about my beliefs? I dislike the death penalty, the poor needed to be kept care of unless they are refusing to work (so only people abusing the system), and pollution is bad. Gotta fix it. Why does any of this matter?
This post has been edited by Rex: 08 November 2011 - 03:46 AM
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- 08 November 2011 - 03:46 AM
- Kaxbe
- Member
Thank you, Gryphonn. It's a guilt complex what they're doing in the video. Logical and moral fallacies. The comparison is inappropriate and offensive.
It's a good thing we're not vilifying people in this thread because of their stance on abortion, or rather, killing Jews.
It's a good thing we're not vilifying people in this thread because of their stance on abortion, or rather, killing Jews.
- #79
- 08 November 2011 - 03:48 AM
- Gryphonn
- Member
I think he might have a bit of trouble with me
First I would probably say hell if I'm going to die I'm killing those people, got to look after number one and if I'm going to get shot anyway, there's no sense in 101 people dying when it could be 100
Then when it actually comes to the whole abortion part I'd probably insist on calling it a fetus, and then I'd get pissed at his whole Liar, Thief, Blasphemer routine, and then when he's all 'so you concerned about going to hell' I'd say not really cos hell don't exist...
I can't understand why anyone would still be there listening to this guy after anything more than 2 minutes, no one should really be made to feel guilty about something which happen such a long time ago and then have some guy come and use that to change their attitude on some contemporary issue
They were all like 'oh yeah I guess those two things are completely the same when you put it like that' they just walked right into it
Anyways Rex you just got to realise that as a Christian, Republican, Conservative et al your just pushing the envelope by taking part in a discussion like this, most of the people here won't share your view because of simple demographics. The only thing I will pick you up on is the fact that your at pains to say that you don't want to make the choice for anyone else, BUT you do say that if someone asked you about it you would tell them not to have an abortion. I reckon in most people's book telling someone that they shouldn't go through with something is just as bad as instructing them.
First I would probably say hell if I'm going to die I'm killing those people, got to look after number one and if I'm going to get shot anyway, there's no sense in 101 people dying when it could be 100
Then when it actually comes to the whole abortion part I'd probably insist on calling it a fetus, and then I'd get pissed at his whole Liar, Thief, Blasphemer routine, and then when he's all 'so you concerned about going to hell' I'd say not really cos hell don't exist...
I can't understand why anyone would still be there listening to this guy after anything more than 2 minutes, no one should really be made to feel guilty about something which happen such a long time ago and then have some guy come and use that to change their attitude on some contemporary issue
They were all like 'oh yeah I guess those two things are completely the same when you put it like that' they just walked right into it
Anyways Rex you just got to realise that as a Christian, Republican, Conservative et al your just pushing the envelope by taking part in a discussion like this, most of the people here won't share your view because of simple demographics. The only thing I will pick you up on is the fact that your at pains to say that you don't want to make the choice for anyone else, BUT you do say that if someone asked you about it you would tell them not to have an abortion. I reckon in most people's book telling someone that they shouldn't go through with something is just as bad as instructing them.
This post has been edited by Gryphonn: 08 November 2011 - 04:12 AM
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- 08 November 2011 - 04:09 AM
- Supah
- Member
At my school a teacher got some anti abortion guy to come in and hold a big presentation for our year group.
He told us all about how wrong abortion is, asked us questions practically the same as this guy trying to do that usual guilt trip argument crap.
Anyway about a week later i found out that him and the whole group he was with was banned from holding presentations in all schools because he was involved with pro-life and extremist groups.
just though i'd share.
He told us all about how wrong abortion is, asked us questions practically the same as this guy trying to do that usual guilt trip argument crap.
Anyway about a week later i found out that him and the whole group he was with was banned from holding presentations in all schools because he was involved with pro-life and extremist groups.
just though i'd share.
- #81
- 08 November 2011 - 04:22 AM
- Meleeman
- Member
Panda, on 07 November 2011 - 09:36 PM, said:
i am pro-choice, you know ''my body my choice'', and honestly it's obvious that abortion and the holocaust are two obvious separated things, for the love of god, abortions don't kill a whole race! Just think how bad it would be if abortions were completely illegal
what about the baby? does he/she get a choice?
Dr. Klaus, on 08 November 2011 - 01:13 AM, said:
I don't give a shit when life begins. Life ends. Who the fuck cares.
If the baby can't be supported, it should be gotten rid of easily instead of being forced to suffer a life of pain and problems.
And honestly, I don't give a shit about human life at all. We've hit seven billion already. That's six billion over a reasonable amount. Problem is, the "authorities" and people with power will try to stop people from doing killing and other shit. We need to bring back proper eugenics. None of that superficial Aryan bullshit. The real anti-heart disease, anti-mental disorder, anti-major physical disability stuff. Man, if I weren't going into a career in film, I'd pursue a career in bioengineering and create a plague that wipes out 3/4 of the human race.
Thin the herd.
Also, at least 50% of that goddamn child is physically YOU. The other 50% is your hookup. Be it a spouse, where it's usually consented to an abortion, or rape, where the father has abandoned all of the responsibilities.
If the baby can't be supported, it should be gotten rid of easily instead of being forced to suffer a life of pain and problems.
And honestly, I don't give a shit about human life at all. We've hit seven billion already. That's six billion over a reasonable amount. Problem is, the "authorities" and people with power will try to stop people from doing killing and other shit. We need to bring back proper eugenics. None of that superficial Aryan bullshit. The real anti-heart disease, anti-mental disorder, anti-major physical disability stuff. Man, if I weren't going into a career in film, I'd pursue a career in bioengineering and create a plague that wipes out 3/4 of the human race.
Thin the herd.
Also, at least 50% of that goddamn child is physically YOU. The other 50% is your hookup. Be it a spouse, where it's usually consented to an abortion, or rape, where the father has abandoned all of the responsibilities.
I'm going to snipe you.
- #83
- 08 November 2011 - 04:38 AM
- Supah
- Member
Meleeman, on 08 November 2011 - 04:38 AM, said:
Panda, on 07 November 2011 - 09:36 PM, said:
i am pro-choice, you know ''my body my choice'', and honestly it's obvious that abortion and the holocaust are two obvious separated things, for the love of god, abortions don't kill a whole race! Just think how bad it would be if abortions were completely illegal
what about the baby? does he/she get a choice?
Dr. Klaus, on 08 November 2011 - 01:13 AM, said:
I don't give a shit when life begins. Life ends. Who the fuck cares.
If the baby can't be supported, it should be gotten rid of easily instead of being forced to suffer a life of pain and problems.
And honestly, I don't give a shit about human life at all. We've hit seven billion already. That's six billion over a reasonable amount. Problem is, the "authorities" and people with power will try to stop people from doing killing and other shit. We need to bring back proper eugenics. None of that superficial Aryan bullshit. The real anti-heart disease, anti-mental disorder, anti-major physical disability stuff. Man, if I weren't going into a career in film, I'd pursue a career in bioengineering and create a plague that wipes out 3/4 of the human race.
Thin the herd.
Also, at least 50% of that goddamn child is physically YOU. The other 50% is your hookup. Be it a spouse, where it's usually consented to an abortion, or rape, where the father has abandoned all of the responsibilities.
If the baby can't be supported, it should be gotten rid of easily instead of being forced to suffer a life of pain and problems.
And honestly, I don't give a shit about human life at all. We've hit seven billion already. That's six billion over a reasonable amount. Problem is, the "authorities" and people with power will try to stop people from doing killing and other shit. We need to bring back proper eugenics. None of that superficial Aryan bullshit. The real anti-heart disease, anti-mental disorder, anti-major physical disability stuff. Man, if I weren't going into a career in film, I'd pursue a career in bioengineering and create a plague that wipes out 3/4 of the human race.
Thin the herd.
Also, at least 50% of that goddamn child is physically YOU. The other 50% is your hookup. Be it a spouse, where it's usually consented to an abortion, or rape, where the father has abandoned all of the responsibilities.
I'm going to snipe you.
Try giving reasons why someone is wrong meleeman instead of just saying "Am going to snipe you" it contributes nothing to the discussion.
A fetus hasn't even developed the ability to talk or respond to others, so i suppose it can't have a choice even if it wanted to. The brain hasn't even developed properly yet
This post has been edited by Supah: 08 November 2011 - 04:44 AM
- #84
- 08 November 2011 - 04:41 AM
- Taeshi
- one hot bitch
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what about the baby? does he/she get a choice?
No, because they're not actually a thinking human being, instead just a bunch of cells at the time that it's viable to get an abortion. It's as meaningful as a tumour getting removed from you.
Your question makes it even more hilarious, you cannot even identify the infant. It probably doesn't even have a gender decided yet, let alone an identity at the time where abortion is plausible.
I rather give someone who will have to make an entire life-changing decision the choice over something that won't even remember it/know about it because it has not developed enough to have a consciousness.
- #85
- 08 November 2011 - 04:42 AM
- Meleeman
- Member
Rex, on 08 November 2011 - 04:22 AM, said:
I'm not Christian, Republican, or Conservative. The internet has done a good job of beating that out of me already.
you poor man. return to the conservative side.
Rex, on 08 November 2011 - 04:47 AM, said:
Don't bother meleeman :[
hmmm. troll my ass off? or do homework? which one?
- #88
- 08 November 2011 - 04:51 AM
- Ace
- BCI Member
It's, I mean... Yeah so a woman has a right to do what she will with her body. Want some drugs? Suuuuuuure, want to scrape out a fetus? You got it. It's their choice and that's really all that it comes down to. Hopefully the know the consequences of their actions before they make them, and if they do, well, then what happens is their decision.
- #89
- 08 November 2011 - 04:51 AM
- Meleeman
- Member
Supah, on 08 November 2011 - 04:41 AM, said:
Meleeman, on 08 November 2011 - 04:38 AM, said:
Panda, on 07 November 2011 - 09:36 PM, said:
i am pro-choice, you know ''my body my choice'', and honestly it's obvious that abortion and the holocaust are two obvious separated things, for the love of god, abortions don't kill a whole race! Just think how bad it would be if abortions were completely illegal
what about the baby? does he/she get a choice?
Dr. Klaus, on 08 November 2011 - 01:13 AM, said:
I don't give a shit when life begins. Life ends. Who the fuck cares.
If the baby can't be supported, it should be gotten rid of easily instead of being forced to suffer a life of pain and problems.
And honestly, I don't give a shit about human life at all. We've hit seven billion already. That's six billion over a reasonable amount. Problem is, the "authorities" and people with power will try to stop people from doing killing and other shit. We need to bring back proper eugenics. None of that superficial Aryan bullshit. The real anti-heart disease, anti-mental disorder, anti-major physical disability stuff. Man, if I weren't going into a career in film, I'd pursue a career in bioengineering and create a plague that wipes out 3/4 of the human race.
Thin the herd.
Also, at least 50% of that goddamn child is physically YOU. The other 50% is your hookup. Be it a spouse, where it's usually consented to an abortion, or rape, where the father has abandoned all of the responsibilities.
If the baby can't be supported, it should be gotten rid of easily instead of being forced to suffer a life of pain and problems.
And honestly, I don't give a shit about human life at all. We've hit seven billion already. That's six billion over a reasonable amount. Problem is, the "authorities" and people with power will try to stop people from doing killing and other shit. We need to bring back proper eugenics. None of that superficial Aryan bullshit. The real anti-heart disease, anti-mental disorder, anti-major physical disability stuff. Man, if I weren't going into a career in film, I'd pursue a career in bioengineering and create a plague that wipes out 3/4 of the human race.
Thin the herd.
Also, at least 50% of that goddamn child is physically YOU. The other 50% is your hookup. Be it a spouse, where it's usually consented to an abortion, or rape, where the father has abandoned all of the responsibilities.
I'm going to snipe you.
Try giving reasons why someone is wrong meleeman instead of just saying "Am going to snipe you" it contributes nothing to the discussion.
A fetus hasn't even developed the ability to talk or respond to others, so i suppose it can't have a choice even if it wanted to. The brain hasn't even developed properly yet
okay. the reason i feel like sniping him is because he wants to take part in a project that wipes out 3/4's of the planet's people. doesn't anyone feel like this is a bad idea?
also my brain isn't fully developed yet i make decisions everyday, so you better come up with a better point than that dumbass.
- #90
- 08 November 2011 - 04:55 AM
- ChewySmokey
- BCI Member
Rex, on 07 November 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:
Gabu, on 07 November 2011 - 09:28 PM, said:
Rex, on 07 November 2011 - 09:07 PM, said:
Your damn fault for having the baby, now how about you take care of it instead of killing it? Sounds like a swell idea to me.
go tell that to any rape victim
95% of abortion patients have not been raped, Gabu. I really dislike hearing the rape argument. Rape is not a justifiable reason to go kill a unborn infant.
lol you are a tool
- #92
- 08 November 2011 - 04:58 AM
- Shada
- BCI Member
In my humble opinion, the option of abortion is up to the women having the baby, and nobody should influence her decision. She's having the baby, so she be the one who decides what to do with it. The government shouldn't have a say in it and the idea is strictly liberal. Just let the women decide.
Rex, where are you getting your source? Wikipedia?
Rex, where are you getting your source? Wikipedia?
- #93
- 08 November 2011 - 05:02 AM
- Rex
- Member
ChewySmokey, on 08 November 2011 - 04:58 AM, said:
Rex, on 07 November 2011 - 09:31 PM, said:
Gabu, on 07 November 2011 - 09:28 PM, said:
Rex, on 07 November 2011 - 09:07 PM, said:
Your damn fault for having the baby, now how about you take care of it instead of killing it? Sounds like a swell idea to me.
go tell that to any rape victim
95% of abortion patients have not been raped, Gabu. I really dislike hearing the rape argument. Rape is not a justifiable reason to go kill a unborn infant.
lol you are a tool
Thanks. You guys here at BCB are real swell.
Shada, I gave sources from PBS, After Abortion, and Central Illinois Right To Life. The first two are neutral.
This post has been edited by Rex: 08 November 2011 - 05:11 AM
- #94
- 08 November 2011 - 05:06 AM
- Meleeman
- Member
Taeshi, on 08 November 2011 - 04:42 AM, said:
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what about the baby? does he/she get a choice?
No, because they're not actually a thinking human being, instead just a bunch of cells at the time that it's viable to get an abortion. It's as meaningful as a tumour getting removed from you.
Your question makes it even more hilarious, you cannot even identify the infant. It probably doesn't even have a gender decided yet, let alone an identity at the time where abortion is plausible.
I rather give someone who will have to make an entire life-changing decision the choice over something that won't even remember it/know about it because it has not developed enough to have a consciousness.
Alright taeshi, have you ever thought once that having an abortion is simply escaping responsibility for ones actions? even if you believe its a collection of cells thats not yet alive or sentient, doesn't it seem wrong to take the life of a developing human being? plus there are other options that don't involve the mother caring for the child. what about foster care? whats your answer to that? it's funny how were having abortions here and the woman in africa are stuggling to keep their children alive.
- #95
- 08 November 2011 - 05:06 AM
- Meleeman
- Member
Taeshi, on 08 November 2011 - 04:56 AM, said:
Hahahahaha 3/4ths of the planet's people.
get out
I mean you already said you were "trolling" so why should anyone take your clearly ignorant and moronic thoughts seriously or give you the time of day.
get out
I mean you already said you were "trolling" so why should anyone take your clearly ignorant and moronic thoughts seriously or give you the time of day.
that 3/4 could be you. still that statement scares me and i'm being honest.
- #97
- 08 November 2011 - 05:10 AM
- Gryphonn
- Member
Yeah its not like you have to put your life on hold for 9+ months or anything like that...
Of course abortion is about escaping the responsibility, but that's because having a child is not an easy thing to do, its like 20 years of work
its not a 'baby' until later in the pregnancy, its not like we're advocating the unprecedented 4th trimester abortion here......
and just drop the whole 3/4 people, that's just a ridiculous notion and I really doubt that its meant to be taken seriously
Of course abortion is about escaping the responsibility, but that's because having a child is not an easy thing to do, its like 20 years of work
its not a 'baby' until later in the pregnancy, its not like we're advocating the unprecedented 4th trimester abortion here......
and just drop the whole 3/4 people, that's just a ridiculous notion and I really doubt that its meant to be taken seriously
This post has been edited by Gryphonn: 08 November 2011 - 05:16 AM
- #98
- 08 November 2011 - 05:10 AM
- Taeshi
- one hot bitch
Administrator
It's not escaping responsibility, because I think it's really tragic to begrudgingly bring a child into the world. I think it's better and healthier to be planning to have the child, and bringing it into the world with love and the desire to take care of it, rather than "oh I fucked up, that was a mistake, I guess I better deal with it."
I'm sure there are plenty of mistakes brought into the world, and hey, that's fine. Because it was their choice to give birth, just like it should be their choice to not have the baby if they don't want to. They're the ones that have to bank about 18 years of their life into this "mistake", so they really should want to for the good of the long run. It's shitty and horrible to sick a baby onto someone as if it's a punishment they have to tolerate. That's not what having a baby should be about.
Thanks for ignoring everything I said before, by the way. I said all the stuff about choice already. Scroll up and read my initial post, idiot.
I'm sure there are plenty of mistakes brought into the world, and hey, that's fine. Because it was their choice to give birth, just like it should be their choice to not have the baby if they don't want to. They're the ones that have to bank about 18 years of their life into this "mistake", so they really should want to for the good of the long run. It's shitty and horrible to sick a baby onto someone as if it's a punishment they have to tolerate. That's not what having a baby should be about.
Thanks for ignoring everything I said before, by the way. I said all the stuff about choice already. Scroll up and read my initial post, idiot.
- #99
- 08 November 2011 - 05:14 AM
- Meleeman
- Member
Taeshi, on 08 November 2011 - 05:10 AM, said:
It's not escaping responsibility, because I think it's really tragic to begrudgingly bring a child into the world. I think it's better and healthier to be planning to have the child, and bringing it into the world with love and the desire to take care of it, rather than "oh I fucked up, that was a mistake, I guess I better deal with it."
I'm sure there are plenty of mistakes brought into the world, and hey, that's fine. Because it was their choice to give birth, just like it should be their choice to not have the baby if they don't want to. They're the ones that have to bank about 18 years of their life into this "mistake", so they really should want to for the good of the long run. It's shitty and horrible to sick a baby onto someone as if it's a punishment they have to tolerate. That's not what having a baby should be about.
Thanks for ignoring everything I said before, by the way. I said all the stuff about choice already. Scroll up and read my initial post, idiot.
I'm sure there are plenty of mistakes brought into the world, and hey, that's fine. Because it was their choice to give birth, just like it should be their choice to not have the baby if they don't want to. They're the ones that have to bank about 18 years of their life into this "mistake", so they really should want to for the good of the long run. It's shitty and horrible to sick a baby onto someone as if it's a punishment they have to tolerate. That's not what having a baby should be about.
Thanks for ignoring everything I said before, by the way. I said all the stuff about choice already. Scroll up and read my initial post, idiot.
you didn't answer my question, i'll go ahead and read your initial post.
- #100
- 08 November 2011 - 05:15 AM