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Autism

View PostMarshmallow, on 24 December 2011 - 09:00 AM, said:

I know a relative with this condition, and needless to say, every experience I've had with him has been unpleasant. I've tried to disconnect myself from him over the years because I don't like putting up with it, but others tell me I should be morally obligated to do so. Does that make me a bad person?


see autism is something you should talk to experts and it is they who will put you advise is somewhat difficult to handle especially if a family so why ask this forum if I did not see it quite right know you have doubts and all that but I do not think any of us I have much knowledge on autism
  • #51
  • 12 June 2012 - 11:37 PM
@Spikespiegel: But he wasn't asking what the specifics behind autism were. He was asking if he was a bad person for how he felt and was asking for advice (not overtly, but I'm pretty sure it was implied). Therefore, anyone who has had success dealing with an autistic person would qualify. Or anyone who has the symptoms of autism can explain it. Or people who know what the symptoms are can also help.

And Aika in particular actually had stated that as a job she deals with children like those.

If he wanted to learn more about autism, she knows, and barring that, yes, he could go to experts. But that wasn't really the goal of the topic.

This post has been edited by Lux Aeterna: 12 June 2012 - 11:56 PM

  • #52
  • 12 June 2012 - 11:55 PM
  • Susan
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What the fuck, 'morally obligated'? No one's obligated to like anyone. I don't give a shit what disease they have, if they're annoying I'm not going to put up with them, whether it's their fault or not.
  • #53
  • 18 June 2012 - 02:00 PM
so how's the boyfriend, susan
  • #54
  • 18 June 2012 - 09:43 PM
Envy is a stinky cologne, closetcase.
  • #55
  • 19 June 2012 - 03:45 AM

View PostRickAstley, on 07 July 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Let's agree to post any further autism questions/comments on another thread.

You got it.

And in my defense, you deserve to be treated like shit if you presume that I'll give a fuck about what offends you. The people I DO give a fuck about, and they know who they are, could just ask me to stop. And I'd at least try, since they've earned my respect in the first place.

I found this thread smoldering like a fire in a coal mine. Two years and it still gets fresh comments. Mostly dumb shit like "I take offense to that" or "YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELF FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU," but it does have an entertaining nugget every now and then.

I've been saving this gem for awhile too: Autistic Mystic: A metaphoric journey to remember myself
  • #56
  • 07 July 2012 - 04:04 PM
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I'm not sure I ever did or ever can take this condition seriously anymore after reading that second link.

This post has been edited by Ace: 07 July 2012 - 05:24 PM

  • #57
  • 07 July 2012 - 05:24 PM
Hate to say it but when I see an autistic, I can't help but see them as just people who just take up space. I'm all for gene therapy and eugenics to phase out autism -- because, you know why? It costs millions to raise an autistic child, compared to a normal child which is just a couple hundred thousand. The bill that autistic children connate is 35$ billion dollars a year.
  • #58
  • 07 July 2012 - 05:24 PM
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oh my god
  • #59
  • 07 July 2012 - 05:25 PM
That first thread really made my day.
The second one even more so.
  • #60
  • 07 July 2012 - 05:33 PM
"Fuck Yeah Autism!: fighting neurobigotry one post at a time." That is my new favorite word. "neurobigotry."

Fuck Yeah Autism!

And this one probably deserves attention too, if only because it's an interesting counterpoint to people who claim they have autism. Yes, I can take things seriously, fuck you. Fuck Autism. by ~Skye-Fate on deviantART
  • #61
  • 07 July 2012 - 08:10 PM

View PostJerk, on 07 July 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

"Fuck Yeah Autism!: fighting neurobigotry one post at a time." That is my new favorite word. "neurobigotry."

Fuck Yeah Autism!

There is acceptance of autism as a disease people have to deal with, then past that threshold is accepting that autism is completely "okay." This blog is uncomfortably flirting with that line. The author does not seem to realize that autism generally inconveniences everyone.

Here's a little something from the blog that forced my hand to lose all sympathies:
"Dear feminist bloggers,
I know this makes me a party pooper, but I don’t give a shit about your “feminist” icons.
Hillary Clinton and Yoko Ono support Autism Speaks, an organization that wants to eradicate autism and wants a world without people like me."

This post has been edited by Moosack: 07 July 2012 - 10:34 PM

  • #62
  • 07 July 2012 - 08:41 PM

View PostMarshmallow, on 24 December 2011 - 09:00 AM, said:

I know a relative with this condition, and needless to say, every experience I've had with him has been unpleasant. I've tried to disconnect myself from him over the years because I don't like putting up with it, but others tell me I should be morally obligated to do so. Does that make me a bad person?


So you've said that you tried to disconnect from him because of the unpleasant experiences that you've had, correct? Well what the thoughts that have about this are:
You are not obligated to do any thing for any one ever.
From what I've watched and read, anything that you do for another person that causes you harm then it is probably a better idea to stop for your own sake.
Developing Detachment | LIVESTRONG.COM
How to Be Your Own Best Friend Pages 36-37
"Parents always claim that they are acting out of love for their children, but it's easy to see when they're not. When a parent 'sacrifices' for a child, you know there's something wrong because of the way the child reacts." "No one really wants the fruits of someone else's self denial."
It's his problem if he has Autism, not your's.

^^
  • #63
  • 09 July 2012 - 09:09 PM

View PostJjinttaSet, on 09 July 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

View PostMarshmallow, on 24 December 2011 - 09:00 AM, said:

I know a relative with this condition, and needless to say, every experience I've had with him has been unpleasant. I've tried to disconnect myself from him over the years because I don't like putting up with it, but others tell me I should be morally obligated to do so. Does that make me a bad person?


So you've said that you tried to disconnect from him because of the unpleasant experiences that you've had, correct? Well what the thoughts that have about this are:
You are not obligated to do any thing for any one ever.
From what I've watched and read, anything that you do for another person that causes you harm then it is probably a better idea to stop for your own sake.
Developing Detachment | LIVESTRONG.COM
How to Be Your Own Best Friend Pages 36-37
"Parents always claim that they are acting out of love for their children, but it's easy to see when they're not. When a parent 'sacrifices' for a child, you know there's something wrong because of the way the child reacts." "No one really wants the fruits of someone else's self denial."
It's his problem if he has Autism, not your's.

^^


IS THAT DOKI AND NABI? THAT"S DOKI AND NABI ISN"T IT. BVJKLSDFHKLJAHGKJLSD


Okay fan spasm aside. I think of autism like this:
If I ever meet one personally, I'll try to be friends, if their condition just makes them completely socially unacceptable then I'll distance myself. My broad general view is that, hey, autism isn't their fault, but if they suffer it to the point where you JUST CAN"T LIVE WITH THEM that when they are put into an asylum or something, as bad as it sounds.

Also I consider taking care of the autistic community an investment (again as terrible as that sounds) because sure most of them are nut jobs but then you get the super-hyper-mega-genius that revolutionalizes the world, so it's risk and reward.

No doubt my views will shift substantially if I ever have and autistic CHILD of my own but that's neither here nor there as of yet.
  • #64
  • 12 July 2012 - 07:53 PM

View PostAllJustShadesOfGray, on 12 July 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

No doubt my views will shift substantially if I ever have and autistic CHILD of my own but that's neither here nor there as of yet.

1. Buy a pool.
2. Never teach it to swim.
3. Leave the door open.

Voila. Self-solving problem.
  • #65
  • 12 July 2012 - 08:04 PM

View PostAllJustShadesOfGray, on 12 July 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

Also I consider taking care of the autistic community an investment (again as terrible as that sounds) because sure most of them are nut jobs...


You do realize how ridiculously insulting and ignorant of you that was, right?
  • #66
  • 12 July 2012 - 09:18 PM
DON'T CALL MENTALLY ILL PERSONS AUTISTIC YOU INSENSITIVE FUCK
  • #67
  • 12 July 2012 - 10:28 PM
What kind of talent does a painter with autism have?

Spoiler

  • #68
  • 13 July 2012 - 01:35 AM
Go find a pair of scissors, shove one blade up your nostril and jam it as far as it takes for you to realize how unnecessarily fucking terrible that joke was.
  • #69
  • 13 July 2012 - 03:08 AM

View PostVigtyr, on 13 July 2012 - 01:35 AM, said:

What kind of talent does a painter with autism have?

Spoiler


Fucking Ultros.
  • #70
  • 13 July 2012 - 09:43 AM

View PostJerk, on 25 December 2011 - 05:15 PM, said:

View PostSuitCase, on 25 December 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

What is the difference between being an involuntarily unpleasant person due to autism and being an involuntarily unpleasant person due to your upbringing and inbuilt understanding of social mores?

Is it fair to avoid and criticise either or both or none?

That's pretty much my train of thought. There's autism, where people break down functionally (I have seen and even done volunteer work babysitting them so their parents could take a Saturday night off) and then there's people who are just terrible with social skills and get the label "autism" because something must be functionally wrong with them to explain why they develop so slowly in certain areas like social skills. I'm inclined to say "fuck it": I'm not obligated to deal with someone who understands enough about how he's being treated to use that to his advantage. Marshmallow's cousin should be drowned like a bag of puppies.

"High-Functioning Autism" isn't autism, it's someone being the fucking failure they were born to be.

As someone with Aspergers, I've got something to say to you and that is that almost everythong you've said in this thread is 100% correct.

Aspergers (essentially "High-Functioning Autism") isn't real. It just isn't, it's a term doctors use to make people either feel scared because they think something's wrong with them or to give them an excuse when they do something wrong. The effects of it are so miniscule that it can't even be considered a problem. Slight social problems? Fixable. In fact, when that's fixed, it's more of a "bonus" than anything considering they're usually really good at picking up certain skills, for some people at least. The only problem I ever had with it really is that my writing is terrible and other than that, I was just awkward when I moved into a new school for the first time but by the time I was leaving, I had a group of friends and a rather large group of acquaintances because I fixed the problem. (Didn't even need help from "specialists") And I'm not saying autims isn't a problem, it is, I've done some work for a course I'm doing in a special needs school with autistic children and they could be a bit troublesome but overall, they're the nicest children I have ever met. (And the teachers bought me breakfast one time, which is always a plus.) So basically what I'm trying to say is that Aspergers is bullshit and easily fixable for most, seeing as for the people I know with Aspergers including myself, there's 5/6 people who freaking fixed it.
  • #71
  • 13 July 2012 - 12:36 PM

View PostJerryTheRacecarDriver, on 13 July 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

Aspergers (essentially "High-Functioning Autism") isn't real. It just isn't, it's a term doctors use to make people either feel scared because they think something's wrong with them or to give them an excuse when they do something wrong.


Incorrect. High-functioning autism refers to a case of autism where the symptoms are observable but don't significantly affect an individual's normal behaviour, as the name suggests. If you feel scared because of the term it's your own issue but since autism is technically a neurological disorder it might be in some situations useful to have a diagnosis even for very "normal" cases.

Plus, I'm fairly certain a specific type of introverts might get misdiagnosed as having AS even if they're really just asocial fagets.
  • #72
  • 13 July 2012 - 01:53 PM
Assburgers is when you have a dude who's so autistic, he's actually kind of normal except for the fact that he's an inssufferable prick in social situations.
  • #73
  • 13 July 2012 - 01:54 PM

View PostJerryTheRacecarDriver, on 13 July 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

View PostJerk, on 25 December 2011 - 05:15 PM, said:

View PostSuitCase, on 25 December 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

What is the difference between being an involuntarily unpleasant person due to autism and being an involuntarily unpleasant person due to your upbringing and inbuilt understanding of social mores?

Is it fair to avoid and criticise either or both or none?

That's pretty much my train of thought. There's autism, where people break down functionally (I have seen and even done volunteer work babysitting them so their parents could take a Saturday night off) and then there's people who are just terrible with social skills and get the label "autism" because something must be functionally wrong with them to explain why they develop so slowly in certain areas like social skills. I'm inclined to say "fuck it": I'm not obligated to deal with someone who understands enough about how he's being treated to use that to his advantage. Marshmallow's cousin should be drowned like a bag of puppies.

"High-Functioning Autism" isn't autism, it's someone being the fucking failure they were born to be.

As someone with Aspergers, I've got something to say to you and that is that almost everythong you've said in this thread is 100% correct.

Aspergers (essentially "High-Functioning Autism") isn't real. It just isn't, it's a term doctors use to make people either feel scared because they think something's wrong with them or to give them an excuse when they do something wrong. The effects of it are so miniscule that it can't even be considered a problem. Slight social problems? Fixable. In fact, when that's fixed, it's more of a "bonus" than anything considering they're usually really good at picking up certain skills, for some people at least. The only problem I ever had with it really is that my writing is terrible and other than that, I was just awkward when I moved into a new school for the first time but by the time I was leaving, I had a group of friends and a rather large group of acquaintances because I fixed the problem. (Didn't even need help from "specialists") And I'm not saying autims isn't a problem, it is, I've done some work for a course I'm doing in a special needs school with autistic children and they could be a bit troublesome but overall, they're the nicest children I have ever met. (And the teachers bought me breakfast one time, which is always a plus.) So basically what I'm trying to say is that Aspergers is bullshit and easily fixable for most, seeing as for the people I know with Aspergers including myself, there's 5/6 people who freaking fixed it.

This comes off like a conspiracy theory like your the kind of person who wears a tinfoil hat. Yes some people can overcome there disabilities on there own but there are plenty that can't and you seem fine with dismissing there struggles.
  • #74
  • 13 July 2012 - 02:04 PM
It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a blatant case of over-diagnosis. Asperger's allows doctors to expand the term "autism" to include people who aren't actually affected by it but would like to say they are in order to excuse being intolerable faggots. It's the natural conclusion to the attitude that over-diagnosed ADD in the 90's, a practice of using medical terms to explain away problems with the person. Just because you are socially crippled doesn't mean that you have autism, especially if you can pass as "high-functioning."

I'm pretty serious about euthanizing actual autistic kids. If you're that crippled, your parents are basically raising you as a pet.
  • #75
  • 13 July 2012 - 04:08 PM

View PostJerk, on 13 July 2012 - 04:08 PM, said:

I'm pretty serious about euthanizing actual autistic kids. If you're that crippled, your parents are basically raising you as a pet.


Some autists can do stupidly incredible shit though. Sort of like savants, except that instead of abnormal thinking they can focus on one thing well.
  • #76
  • 13 July 2012 - 04:20 PM
You know what's even more rare than savant syndrome? A savant that can do something that couldn't be done better and faster by computers, cameras and calculators.
  • #77
  • 13 July 2012 - 04:31 PM
I comment on the comic frequently but I have just registered on the forums.
In answer to the original question - No, it does not make you a bad person. Autism is not an excuse for bad behaviour. I am autistic myself and I know others who are too, and while we have a hard time reading nonverbal social cues, we still have the capacity to understand right from wrong.
I am also shocked at the attitude I found on here, and deeply saddened. This is just my opinion, but I believe every child has the right to live and the opportunity to make the best of themselves regardless of any mental or physical illness or condition.
While some autistic people use it as an excuse, most I know do not. While sometimes we need help understanding how our condition affects us and those around us so that we can learn to compensate and better ourselves, we do not want special treatment.
We are not stupid, retarded, crippled, parasites or failures. We're individuals who are just as capable as anyone.
I go to college where I am studying art, have a part time job, and volunteer at a charity on weekends. I have a group of wonderful friends and an amazing boyfriend. I wouldn't have been able to do that if I wasn't supported from an early age by my doctor and parents.
  • #78
  • 13 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

View PostJerk, on 13 July 2012 - 04:31 PM, said:

You know what's even more rare than savant syndrome? A savant that can do something that couldn't be done better and faster by computers, cameras and calculators.


Visual analysis. One of the main areas computers are inferior in is interpreting visual data.

And the overhead of actually programming the desired function makes computers realistically only superior when batch processing or handling oft-repeated queries.
  • #79
  • 13 July 2012 - 07:19 PM

View PostmAceOfHearts, on 12 July 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

View PostAllJustShadesOfGray, on 12 July 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

Also I consider taking care of the autistic community an investment (again as terrible as that sounds) because sure most of them are nut jobs...


You do realize how ridiculously insulting and ignorant of you that was, right?


Autistic People= Has a Mental Illness = (Which can be called)Nut Jobs
Though of course there are people with varying degrees of a mental illness, and some are FUCKING CRAZY and some are nice and friendly, they just think differently. I was using the term light heartedly (though that can be up to debate). Maybe I shouldn't have used the term "most" just "some". Most would be an exaggeration, I agree, but you can't say that some of the autistic community aren't just completely "not fit for society".

Or did you mean the investment part? It's not that I'm not considering them as people, it's just that some are better and some are worse, and it's a risk reward thing in the big picture. In the smaller picture parents should raise their child as nicely as they can.

If that wasn't it, please tell me what you meant and prove me wrong.

This post has been edited by AllJustShadesOfGray: 13 July 2012 - 07:52 PM

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  • 13 July 2012 - 07:49 PM

View PostDolphinBread, on 13 July 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

This is just my opinion, but I believe every child has the right to live and the opportunity to make the best of themselves regardless of any mental or physical illness or condition.

I think everybody should live everywhere forever and have everything and be friends with everyone.

View PostDolphinBread, on 13 July 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

We're individuals who are just as capable as anyone.

Then aside from being a whiny self-righteous cunt, there isn't anything wrong with you and you were misdiagnosed by an equally incompetent fuck.
  • #81
  • 13 July 2012 - 08:30 PM
  • Taeshi
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I don't see how DolphinBread is appearing "self-righteous", and i am feeing increasingly more uncomfortable at some of the words picked in this topic. I would hope people are more civil, like not using words like "nut jobs" :\
  • #82
  • 13 July 2012 - 09:11 PM
in the big picture we should all just die
  • #83
  • 13 July 2012 - 09:23 PM
I'm not trying to be self-righteous. I just don't like people being judged purely for having a mental illness that they have no control over.
I had severe problems at school, and I was a handful. I took years of courses and therapy, and I try very, very hard to understand people and work hard - Its taken me alot of work to get where I am, and I still have problems. Also, pleas do not swear at me. I have not swore at you, and your response was unneeded.
  • #84
  • 13 July 2012 - 09:34 PM

View PostDolphinBread, on 13 July 2012 - 09:34 PM, said:

Also, pleas do not swear at me. I have not swore at you, and your response was unneeded.


(Do you realise you're talking to a guy who literally calls himself Jerk

that's

not really the kind of a person you can tell not to be a jerk)
  • #85
  • 13 July 2012 - 09:47 PM
@ Taeshi: "I am also shocked at the attitude I found on here, and deeply saddened." Shocked and appalled.

@ DolphinBread: I swear at everyone. You wanted equal treatment and you got it. You know who else has problems at school and is a handful? Children. All of them. Work toward success is laudable, but the only thing you overcame was the failure of your parents to keep trying to raise you like a human being and not a fucking victim.
  • #86
  • 13 July 2012 - 09:49 PM
I guess.
I still feel like it was undeserved though. I've read other forums, and I actually agree with Jerk on a lot of points, like Lucy's treatment of Mike and invasion of his privacy.
And seeing something I used to be bullied rather badly about by kids, talked about by adults in such a manner, it has hurt. I don't know why - I don't know these people, I shouldn't care, but it has, and it feels worse because Jerk isn't some dumb kid - he's a smart adult.
I don't mean to sound like I'm whining - I have a really happy life, but I have had, and caused legitimate problems, and I spend my life trying to make up for them, if I can. I don't feel like the better person as a result, its just something I think I should do seeing as I have the capacity.
I've been given a lot of opportunities that many haven't, so I have to do the best that I can.

I'm not a victim - I'm really lucky.
And I don't mean standard kid problems. I mean I was in trouble every single day without even knowing why. I had no idea how to react in situations and read people, and I still don't - I just know how to respond in an acceptable manor, because I don't want to upset people. I was so easily frightened, upset, and angered to an extent that it wasn't normal. Its very hard for me to explain the extent of it.
  • #87
  • 13 July 2012 - 09:56 PM
I never said I was a smart adult. If I genuinely hurt your feeling, then I apologize. It's because I don't know you and I don't like having my morality questioned by people who don't know me. Usually, I wouldn't give a flying fuck about this. We would keep going until the moral outrage boiled over, which I have no qualms against exploiting whatsoever. If that were the case, yes, I would be trying to hurt you. But I'm not. I don't think you have autism but it's not your fault if everyone around you told you you did growing up. I am not used to dealing with people who can't deal with me.

EDIT: ARGH. Those are COMPLETELY standard kid problems. Everyone, without exception, is like that or has been like that. If anything, it sounds like self-confidence issues from being yelled at for being such a brat. Believe me, I should know. For that, they tried to diagnose me with ADD (which was the Asperger's of the 90's). I turned out alright. No treatment, no therapy, nothing. My family can't afford it because they have bigger medical fish to fry. You were over-and-incorrectly-analyzed and you suffered for it.
  • #88
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:03 PM
Thats okay, apology accepted.
I know, I just assumed you were smart because you seem to be good at understanding situations, Like the fact which Lucy invaded Mike's privacy, which alot of people didn't notice.
I'm sorry too - I'm not used to talking online in forums and I have difficulty telling sarcasm from seriousness, especially when its online.
I do definately think I have autism though - I've been diagnosed by three doctors, and while I can believe one would be wrong, I don't think 2 specialists would be - at least I hope not, and I just have too many weird mannerisms and thought patterns, though I am much, much, much better than I was when I was growing up.
I have friends whose autism is alot more severe than mine, and they are all wonderful people - they all work really hard and do their best. I just think everybody has worth, regardless of their health. I can understand why that would be considered Naive and idealistic but its what I truly think. I volunteer with kids with severe mental health problems, and most of them just need a bit of patience and understanding.
However, Like I said, Autism is not an excuse for poor behaviour - we still have the capacity to know right from wrong, and some people do use it as a get of jail free card.

I don't know man - I mean, I'm only 20, maybe I'll continue to grow up and in a few years I'll be "Normal" if there is such a thing but I doubt it man.
But if I am, thats cool, I think I know how to handle it now, and it gives me the insight to help others with the same problems.
  • #89
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:13 PM
Even if they said you did, you're at a point of functionality where you can frankly state that you don't. You have quirks, you have confidence issues, but nothing that other people don't experience on a regular basis (except the Art degree, but I digress). Everything you describe can be chalked up to childhood or adulthood eccentricity, which isn't nearly enough evidence to lend itself to the theory that you have autism. I think if you just pushed yourself further out of your comfort zone, you'd find that there is no "normal" and that everyone is in some way or another a fuck up, none of whom have any degree of autism.

Don't listen to thetaEpsilon, nobody else does and he doesn't even fucking know me anyway.
  • #90
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:21 PM
I was a complete wreck before therapy so I think I actually needed it. I'm sure actually. I love people, so I don't want to upset them without knowing it. At least now I have an idea of how to react and act, and to put effort into putting myself in other peoples shoes. I do actually also suffer from self esteem issues quite badly - which is why I can be quite defensive sometimes, for which I'm sorry. Apparently I'm too hard on myself, which I disagree with, I'm just very keen to be a better person than I am now.
My parents did an ace job though considering how much trouble I caused them, so its not their fault.I want to make it up to them by being awesome in the future.

I do actually agree with you in that Idea - I think everybody has some form of mental illness but the severities of it differ from person to person. I think alot of people need help and encouragement more than anything.
I would like to push myself further, but I'm unsure of how to do it. I usually use my art to express myself but I hit walls where I think "Whats the point, this is going to be terrible" Which is a silly attitude for an artist to have, but I can't help it.
I would love to write a web comic, but I'm just scared of it being silly and terrible and wasting peoples time y'know?

It takes real guts to do. to write something and create characters and bare them for all to see. Thats why Taeshi should be so proud of herself - I know she has confidence issues, but she still does it, and people love it.
I just don't think i have that kind of nerve. which is why I need to push myself like you said.
  • #91
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:29 PM
I don't know what you parents did nor what your doctors did. None of what I said means that therapy might not have helped you. You get the idea though. It's a stigma and usually unjustified. You'd probably have turned out even better if your parents hadn't been driven to that group of quacks.

Hah! Do you read Taeshi's diary comic? I think you should. It would be a good experience for you. I mean, I assume you probably have a pretty high respect for her. It'd be good for you to see that successful, normal people have SERIOUS ISSUES without being autistic in any way. LIKE SO MANY ISSUES. And has the guts to show them publicly. Comic aside, that takes balls of brass. Or, fuck, just talk to her. She's pretty approachable.
  • #92
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:37 PM
I'll google it in a second if you really think it'll help. She just, I mean - I know she goes to uni, and this comic is so regular and the characters seem so real that I can analyse them and oh man, and then it dawns on me that I'll probably never have the stuff to do the same you know. And her watercolours! If I tried to do watercolours like that it'd probably look like a baboon did it haha. Probably why I'm mostly digital, that and I prefer the look for my stuff.
Oh I didn't mean it to sound like I thought you said that, I meant it in more of a "Its a good job either way" Kind of thing. I think the criteria that diagnoses me though is that my brain doesn't think about stuff in the same way - the best way I've heard it described is that I'm "Wired differently", so I definately think its there in people. I tend to get obsessed with stuff and change tangents alot too, though I try not to in company.
I'll open the Diary in another tab and give it a look.

I'm really shocked - She feels alot like I do. Like when she's lying awake thinking of stuff, our thoughts are the same.
Its actually made me feel really wierd, I can't describe it, like, choked up but not cause I'm upset, well I'm upset that she feels that way but maybe I'm not as wierd as I thought I was? I don't know

and about our art - but her arts fantastic, she should be so proud of herself man.
  • #93
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:47 PM
brb stimming
  • #94
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:47 PM
We take the same anti-depressant too, only I'm english so mine has a different name.

what does stimming mean?

isn't it like when part of your body shake? my knees and hands do that all the time.
  • #95
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:50 PM
She got shit from critics about the watercolors. I don't see a point to deny it before you try it. Put up some stuff in Candybooru or Creative Arts. There's a lot of people in there who are good artists and give good criticism.
  • #96
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:51 PM
I'd love to talk to Taeshih but I'd be worried about distracting her or being annoying or silly you know?
  • #97
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:51 PM
DolphinBread I am very glad for how you've responded. You probably know how I am for phasing out Autism and other diseases, but that doesn't mean I'm going to easily discriminate. I know that it wasn't your choice to be born or have Autism, so I won't really take it against you at all. I still think it's best that disorders like these need to controlled, but I think there is no reason to be harsh towards people like you, because I know you definitely didn't ask for what you have, and you really are trying hard to improve.
  • #98
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:52 PM
I don't have any BCB related pics at the moment - I have a few sketches of a human Daisy, maybe I could colour it and put it up?

I do have a deviantart, which is nice - but I do too much fan art, when I really want to do more of my own stuff, but lack the guts in case it sucks.

thank you Seppucrow.
  • #99
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:56 PM
Yes, do that. Or whatever you've already got, I don't think it matters in CA. And just drop her a message or something. If she's busy, she can respond when she gets a chance.
  • #100
  • 13 July 2012 - 10:56 PM
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