the_gray_angel, on 05 January 2012 - 04:57 PM, said:
Pants, on 05 January 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:
I'm too goddamn tired at 3:40am in the morning to properly articulate this, but your wrong.
I will agree that there is an extreme amount of terrifying side effects to alot of these medications. But I actually don't agree with willpower being a substitute for control. You can't willpower a disorder into complete remission. You can control parts of it, but what is there is what is there.
I can't imagine that you know what "severe" ADHD even is. You can't control that. I live with a sibling that has a disability chart mentally (that includes ADHD) that makes me thankful I have the life I have. Without her medication, she would not function in normal society.
ya i need to be more clear when i describe things, i dont mean that ive gotten rid of my disorder completely, that probably is impossible. though as of now its nowhere nearly as bad as it was years ago. i still have problems but many of times i can stop myself. i pretty sure its considered severe or at least worse than usual if it messes with your daily life.
I found that age helps alot with control of these sort of things. Coming to grips on where you end and where it begins makes a big difference. Your maturity level can help, but it's not going to solve everything. Just make some parts easier. Doesn't mean you should just fight it and leave it be.
My family unfortunately has a terrible gene in terms of mental health issues. My fathers side of the family mostly, where my father and one Uncle did not receive the proper..review? It's painfully clear both of them suffer because of it, but stubbornness and a lifetime of accepting their characters as who they are prevents them from ever changing or being diagnosed.
My Sister on the other had, was always in medical care. Not in terms of a clean room, but always under supervision and medication. To say we have a mini drugstore in our house is an understatement. Bi-Polar, ADHD, Depression and mild intellectual delay (4-5 years behind, terrible with math) would be a clean description, but the list can be rather lengthy. My family attends monthly therapy sessions to keep track of both the medication she's on, and her mood and health. Her medication is a godsend for her however, as it allows her to function on a day to day level. It provides her with patience and clarity when dealing with tasks most of us would find mundane. A quick converstation with her seems absolutely normal. An argument with her seems irrational and insane.
As for myself, I'm reluctantly in the middle. I had some difficulties during my university studies, and was diagnosed with a multitude of different issues. Extreme Anxity and depression assumed among other things, I was given Citalopram. For me...Didn't work at all. I lied about the effectiveness and tried to work on it on my own. Didn't work so great. Would not recommend lying.
Without going into my story in super detail, I was prodded into taking Adderal and I haven't looked back. 20 Mg a day, every morning.
The scary part about it was noticing how different everything was once I took it. I can live without it, but I choose to keep it. I do have a bit of a different personality when I'm actively on and off the stimulus, but it's not a major change that effects by day to day life. I find off the stimulus, it's quite easy to see the bad things and beat myself up over trivial issues.
I still dislike the notion of medication. But I also dislike the notion of people not realizing how different everything can be. Just because you live with it and can handle it, doesn't mean it's right. I am as stubborn as they come when discussing depression and the ability for the human mind to fight it. I also think that there are options you can take to help you overcome the illness. They don't always work, the side effects suck, and it's a pain to go from one pill to another trying to find the right option. It's a sad flip flop argument, but such is the way I attempt to rationalize a terrible viewpoint.
My sister put it best to me when I first resisted many years ago "I wish I could be you, you only have to take 1 pill". If she could struggle through all she's done in 19 years, what did I have to lose trying something. If you feel the same way, don't allow yourself to come up with excuses. I couldn't find one to give to her, I don't think anyone here could either. Even with your example Amaris, you can take public transportation. There are free health call centers you can use for discussion purposes. It doesn't help with the financial costs of physicians/therapy , but nothing can be gained without starting somewhere.