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Project BCB#539

Well as you can see, this is yet another animation proyect.(Oh Lord Why dont people just give up)Oh well.
Fist. Im not planing on interfeering with BCBaudiocomic or this more of a help( wiseass) to work for the rise of an unkown animation group that can and will animate BCB into a full color animated.

Second. Even though no one besides the server that recognizes my IPadress knows me, I'm fully aware of all the atempts from Aken to Darkspeeds to Ltamazil to Grass to LTamzil(wich was better than first one).

Edit: no offence to those I mentioned and the others i didn't.

Those attemps arent that bad, but they were as myself, trying almost the imposible, doing it alone (heres another solidarity speech SOMEONE PRESS ALT F4)

Well also it was the way they worked too, also the deadlines were to blame, but the idea was good.
I have macromedia Flash Professional 8(to bad im poor and cant afford the adobe software and I go to piracy) and I can give any one who wants the link to it:

Hi There :D


Now with that program, you will be able to animate BCB! Its not that simple.

So ive got this shitty program, what now? Simple my friends you gang up together and share the work

Which work, you say?
Three most important tasks
*Redrawing the characrtes and each and every one of their facial expresions (this is the easiest task and longest task of all why because they already exist in the whole comic and thats because the program posses a onion paper option beneath the frame indicator)


*Draw the backgrounds (WHAT?!?!)its the hardest and most demanding task, since you require another program and like paint and a good browser, you have to since the angle cannot be the same as in the comic or youll get the background from pics in the internet andand redrawing them into BCB style (anime-cartoon fusion)through the onion papertrick do it bad you get a get a darkspeed(no offense and if you work it good it could beat a pro on it.

*Storyboarding the most imortant task. Its a must, because you need this to do the timing and to do the voicig editig of scenes.(this its the reason so many failed, no storyboard, they just copied Tae-chan's work ( Im mostly bitchin) since not all of the scenes can be done in the same perspective and to decide the diferrent transition of each scene, also there will be a poll for this one since for a storybord you either need to be Tae-chan or have her writing sense (enough to come up with a plausible alternate ending to BCB, yeah, that much)


There are other tasks, but those are mostly the Sound group, incharged of timing the music, sounds and voicing which i'm not very good at, so for that, there needs to be a hole other group.
Overall there are 2 groups Video and Audio group
Video must have least 8 animators and Audio 2 + all the voicers needed
Anyone iterested (this is when you close you're browser and turn off your computer and go to play PS2-3 Xbox Nintendo or Whatever you have 8-D)

OH CRRAP I CLICKED THE WRONG ONE POSTED IT INSTEAD OF PREVIEWING IT!!.Well no harm done.But there was thanks to my friend charcoles, I could tell some of the errors in punctuation, and that's a no-no when your giving tips to some forum stranger.(no offense)

Final comment: seriously WHAT DA FUCK is wrong with me? my writting has become Shitty as the last season of johnny test.

This post has been edited by NeonDfro: 09 January 2012 - 01:54 AM

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  • lt_amazil
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ooh tools! *steal* well sir, i will say to you what i've said to others. i pray that you succeed in this project. if you have seen what has happened to the others, then you will know that this project you are about to accept will be time consuming, it will be tedious, and you had better be persistent if you hope to complete this. i won't discourage you, but i won't help you either (i'm already participating in 2 other freelance voice acting groups, and they're both at a halt) this forum is filled with critics as you've seen, and they will help you in their own way. do not be disuaded or discouraged no matter what. but should you ever feel like it fails, and everyone is agreeing. then back out. remember: you should like it. you must like it, you must want it. because if YOU don't. Then who will?
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I can provide a voice if you need it, and I might, MIGHT, be able to do some barebones editing with the characters. Don't expect me to though.
Here's hoping we once and for all get a decent radio play thingy.
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Yeah,while I was "trying" to do it alone, I noticed the job would take a while(like half a year or so for the first chapter),and the criticism, I would actually apreciate it, that way I could fix the errors, I will, be making along the way, the only promblem is going to be, the inconsistent art style so I dicided to take pics from, the last monocrome chapter to "Carry me" to avoid confusions for exception of Simple plesures because that will be the basis of the first season(wow a whole season) since they all look well younger, the animations will be full color, well, I don't know about the lineart.


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I can provide a voice if you need it, and I might, MIGHT, be able to do some barebones editing with the characters. Don't expect me to though.
Here's hoping we once and for all get a decent radio play thingy.



Oh the first to offer a hand, is their anything you have recorded already? so I can tell how good are you. Otherwise, any of what I mentioned before, the caracters or the background(from Feline filibuster to Carry me)could be really helpfull just try too send those in flash documents to:
neond.fro@gmail.com
I could send you mines and you could fix the errors, whatever that you find less troubeling or time eating.

edit:ooooooh you meant as sound in general, well, still send me the stuff you have anyway.

reminder: this project will take a long time and Im in the planing stage right now.

This post has been edited by NeonDfro: 09 January 2012 - 06:35 PM

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Do you mean Feline Festivities and Carry on?
If so, I'll record some ´´auditions`` tomorrow. Again, if I end up editing anything at all, I'll be barebones at best. I suck at stuff like that, I just know how to do some of the most simple stuff.
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I would recommend tackling a small project that you can manage yourself (i.e. a single sequence/gag/comic page) and post it to drum up support. I imagine it will be difficult to get people to commit their time without seeing some sampling of your work.

Good luck! I hope you have fun in the process.

This post has been edited by Aken: 09 January 2012 - 09:08 PM

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If you need any voice acting, I would be available. I am currently doing Sue's voice for LT_Amazil's audio recording project, so if you'd like me to link some of those auditions that I did for her, I can. Also, if you need any other voices, I can try those out too.
Hope that I can help out :)
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If you need me, you know where to find me.
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Aken
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I would recommend tackling a small project that you can manage yourself (i.e. a single sequence/gag/comic page) and post it to drum up support. I imagine it will be difficult to get people to commit their time without seeing some sampling of your work.

Good luck! I hope you have fun in the process.

This post has been edited by Aken: Yesterday, 09:08 PM


Good thing I already started that. Im currently redrawing paulo, by the end of the month I'll be done.

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If you need any voice acting, I would be available. I am currently doing Sue's voice for LT_Amazil's audio recording project, so if you'd like me to link some of those auditions that I did for her, I can. Also, if you need any other voices, I can try those out too.
Hope that I can help out


Thanks could you link me those I would really apreciate it.

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If you need me, you know where to find me.


Good to know, also, Im wondering, how come you got 2 pictures?
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View PostmAceOfHearts, on 09 January 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

Do you mean Feline Festivities and Carry on?
If so, I'll record some ´´auditions`` tomorrow. Again, if I end up editing anything at all, I'll be barebones at best. I suck at stuff like that, I just know how to do some of the most simple stuff.

No, do the lines you like the most of any chapter with the character your gonna try that mainly depends on the characters.
Also I meant from rehesal to present chapter and for middle school the redrawn chapters (nevermind) for the pictures(background ,characters and other stuff)



Side note: Im mainly recruiting now And what im needing is a storyboarder urgent the voicing ac wait a little bit, sorry if i come out mean,
the process is: storyboarding, scripting, recording, animating and afterwards, editting.So with this said, I need a good writer someone that can slightly equal Tae-chans writting, but only to make the decisions she herself might not make, since shes a really busy and may not be able to help, she got her readers and husbando to watch over (this only out of sheer respect if your reading Taeshi)

This post has been edited by NeonDfro: 16 January 2012 - 07:52 PM

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I think I misunderstood what you meant by storyboarder ealier. Do you need it in novel form, or as an actual manga storyboard. I can attempt to write something if you need me to. Do you want everything completely rewritten or what?
EDIT: And I'm afraid I'll have to cancel my voiceacting, I sound absolutelutely horrible when recording my vocie only.
(For some reason I sound better when I record something else as well, such as when using Fraps.)
Besides, my voice wasn't suitable for any of the characters anyway, at least not from what I can tell. I have a youtube account, so you can check for yourself if you want to. Just search for ´´NintendoCentralFan12`` and I bloody hate that name.

This post has been edited by mAceOfHearts: 10 January 2012 - 08:44 PM

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I'll VA for this, I'm playing a few voices for LT_Amazils audio-comic, if you need anyone for Daisy or Chirpy or other things besides Sue because that's Aka's territory, I will try!

I can help with the writing too.

This post has been edited by Shada: 11 January 2012 - 07:30 PM

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Here's two recordings of Sue that I did a couple months ago.
One of this page: http://www.bitterswe...com/c62/p2.html, and the other is of this page: http://www.bitterswe....com/c4/p3.html

Sue.wma

Sue 2.wma

Taeshi said she liked them, so I hope you'll find them O.K. Hope I can help out :)
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mAceOfHearts
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I think I misunderstood what you meant by storyboarder ealier. Do you need it in novel form, or as an actual manga storyboard. I can attempt to write something if you need me to. Do you want everything completely rewritten or what?
EDIT: And I'm afraid I'll have to cancel my voiceacting, I sound absolutelutely horrible when recording my vocie only.
(For some reason I sound better when I record something else as well, such as when using Fraps.)
Besides, my voice wasn't suitable for any of the characters anyway, at least not from what I can tell. I have a youtube account, so you can check for yourself if you want to. Just search for ´´NintendoCentralFan12`` and I bloody hate that name.
Yesterday, 08:44 PM


Too bad we'll fix something(look below shada's comment)

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I'll VA for this, I'm playing a few voices for LT_Amazils audio-comic, if you need anyone for Daisy or Chirpy or other things besides Sue because that's Aka's territory, I will try!

I can help with the writing too.

This post has been edited by Shada: Today, 07:30 PM

Today, 07:29 PM



Ok great! now Ill explain myself better. I need some one script out the first two chapters of BCB in tumbnails with the caracthers each lines of each them in scenes.

example
1
>:(
I love you

2
:unsure:
(shocked)
3
:unsure:
...
4,5,6....till you finish scripting the chapters, depending in the amount of minutes, chapters will either be 24 minutes or 10 all of them consistency in anmation is important, but it depends(man everything depends) on how many any animators we'll have by the time of the cut (I give it 2 weeks and I'll close doors till the second chapter) and a poll to decide, that poll will be made once weve got everything.Anywhoo, I need this because, that way we can organize the chapters in scenes, this lightens the load, helps animators to help finish faster and more eficciently.

So, if you want, could either or both of you send or post here by a spoiler(how do i do that) a storyboard like this one it can be done on paint don't bother your selfs.
Spoiler


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Here's two recordings of Sue that I did a couple months ago.
One of this page: http://www.bitterswe...com/c62/p2.html, and the other is of this page: http://www.bitterswe....com/c4/p3.html

Sue.wma

Sue 2.wma

Taeshi said she liked them, so I hope you'll find them O.K. Hope I can help out

Today, 09:35 PM

:love: That voice, is beutifull, you could dub anime and weeekly I bet you sing and if Taeshi approoves then here your Sue as well.


Note: Do I have to make a new topic to do a poll or can I edit this one.

This post has been edited by NeonDfro: 04 March 2012 - 01:45 AM

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Hey, long time I didnt visit the forums :D

Nice to see a new project. I can't give you voices (my spanish accent is a problem, really) and I can't barelly draw. But if you need help with sound editing I can provide you a hand.

Also, maybe you will like to use a song we made for Lucy. Lyrics by Lt_Amazil, music by BeberOne (he isnt in the forums) helped by me, and sang by Shada.

Lucy's Song - YouTube

Now we are going to rearrange the volumes so the instruments sound a little higher.

Also I can help with writing scripts or such.

This post has been edited by Volgrand: 12 January 2012 - 03:10 AM

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+One sound edtior. Now, is there anyone left that wants to help with as animator? I need at least three.

The deadline is coming soon... if you're shy, try emailing me.Don't let the chance of participating somenthing like this slip away from you.

This post has been edited by NeonDfro: 14 January 2012 - 04:34 PM

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OK, since most people has lost all interest, I only will ask for those who are still interested, support at the least, with opinions, ideas, because, it can't be that no one those who posted on the topic, are the only ones wanting to see a Bittersweet Candy Bowl animated in a good Quality.(nag nag nag nag)

How do I know only some are interested? Because a fifth of the views are me.

So now with that cleared then, I'll explain what I'll do:(again with the freaken I's)

I'm gonna redraw the characters starting with the main ones, moving on to background ones and depending on what Taeshi thinks, Ill either have the fan-characters deleted or kept(except getting fucked in the ass, sorry)anyway, the first character to redraw will be Lucy not only for being the lead on the story, but also the characters that changes the most in appearance (no, you pervs I don't mean her boobs nor ass)but her factions since the characters go from middle school to high school they don't stay the same, aside from abbey, since he appeared after wards also I'll have to draw the characters as kids for the flashbacks.

But, at difference from the comic series, the art wont evolve that much, since I am running low budget(none) there so little I can do without an animation group(gee, thanks guys) but, Ill leave the other treats of the comic, such as, the textured paper color on walls, floors and other object which the character isn't holding or the camera isn't focused on, to keep the essence of the comic

I'll be adding treats that could only be enjoyed on video such as: I haven't decided yet but, I'll even try and have the new line-art added from the first chapter but the problem will be the tones, they could come out too plastic so to avoid a plastic-yashy effect, I'll only use a maximum of 3 different tones on the same color for each character and comic sense non-gray scale shading and no shine on anything aside from the eyes and reflecting objects, this also reduces the work in 20 or so% and last i would like to play the BCB theme that I found in this thread when I was looking for the favorite song thread on certain scenes or at the least in the credits or intro but with a guitar and with lyrics.
Which I now know KekkonShiyou is still working on.
In a week or so, I'll post the rough redrawn flash versions of Lucy and the others, so you can see more or less what I'm getting at


Sidenote: Even I have a headache reading this
Edit:how about these lyrics
L--iving in bittersweet world---
just trying to make it through---
New advetures everyday
As we work hard for the next tomorrow------
Ju-st kidding that would be embarrasing, though, the part of me that thinks like suitcase says: DO IT!>8[

This post has been edited by NeonDfro: 17 January 2012 - 06:10 AM

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is it wrong that i read "living in bittersweet world" in the tune for "Material Girl"?
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I think that starting drawing now the expression and such of high school Lucy is.... well, you can do it later. I would just focus on the youger Lucy, as you are going to start by the 1st chapter (aren't you?).

I tried to learn a little of flash, but seeing that Ican't barely draw.... not east :S
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Uh... the song, I found it browsing through the lilling comics and it was a good way to tease people, and the that was what im mainly trying to get at, volgrand but, i can do the redrawing since it takes me a to two or three hours to redraw a characters, so i leave the job of slightly editing the pictures for the movement sequences to reduce the work for the team or the few left (gee, thanks again guys) anyway if you want to instead of drawing you could do that it doesnty require any drawing abilities or refine the drawings, these two only require patience.

Note: I'm on the mobile version so I can't actually check ortography patience please.
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I can make story boards. and i have some experience with Macromedia Flash, I prefer Pencil though. as for reliability I will do my best to help you as much as i can. I can devote my self an hour a day since i have school every day. and you seem like you know what your doing. I would recommend using a low frame rate my self speaking from experience. what frame rate do you plan on using for the animation?
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Finally! someone new, I thought no one else was interested.
Look, I was trying to see how hard it was with 30, since that's the amount used on on cartoons but, they have the advantage of an animation studio and I'm on this only with this community and i got no picture editing neither i know how to use them so I was planning either 15-20, for details such as movement on tails, blinking, etc.



For those who don't know the frame rate is the the amount of frames, slides, pictures or thumbnails that are equal to a second
there is #frames per second for each different types of animation which means that if in a movie the usual frame rate is 45 frames per second they draw 45 frames to make a second worthy of high quality
animation
The chart goes like this:
Movies and OVA's 45-60frames(speaking of ovas I'm planing on doing a bcb one like Digi Charat's having them all human)
Cartoons and generic anime 26-30
shorts and other animation 15 -20
low qualities go all the way to 5-12 low qualities since there are only some so far that come out perfectly fine with this amount like VGcats, to bad bcb isn't one of those, that would of made the animation easy.

But I'll have you in stand by except for one thing, this i a must take a picture from the first chapter where David appears and use the onion paper option and try redrawing his head and export the image and post it here just to see how good you can draw on flash, unless you already posted one on the booru.
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Why would movies do 45 frames per second? Properly done you cannot literally see the difference after 24 frames per second. Although, at 60fps, you'd obviously get a frame in every time the screen updates for a 60Hz monitor or TV or projector, which is probably nice.

Still, I find it doubtful that anyone would go over 30 frames per second, really.
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I dont really know, but thats the standard for movies like Balto or any Disney animated movies, but thanks to the tecnology they don't actully draw all those frames, only a few, the most diffcult ones and the rest are done by computer so they work as if they were doing 30 or even 20 frames but, i dont have that tecnology so its like im doing.... the whole thing(YAY Alooot of woooorK!)
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okay I guess 15 fps won't kill me. I was hoping 10 but then again I was intending to do it all by my self. will we be making 5 minute episodes? thats seems fairly manageable, at least it was when it was just me doing ten frames per second over the time span of half a year.

I'll be familiarizing myself with macromedia flash.

This post has been edited by TalentedAnthroFreak: 21 January 2012 - 07:25 AM

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@talentedanthrofreak


Thats good flash is gonna be your main tool and you cant be working with it not knowing its most important features, But Wait! look Im still planning so, I need to take in account what you could do, in the end you could be doing somthing like, lip sync, adding, special effects, drawing bacgrounds or story boarding so, don't go thinking that Im gonna have you do all the work so answer:
1 can you draw?
2 in a scale of one to ten ,1 being inpatient and 10 being retardly patient where would you be?
I need to know to decide.
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I can draw. but if i reveal my art I will be kicked from the forums. I'm still studying People and perspective. Perspective is my weakness. but i have a good grasp on exactly what a person should look like, and the basic views. I cannot do a birds or a ant's view. doing other poses is risky but i could pull off most of them.

for patience i am a 7. I've had focus issues occasionally, but I usually listen to music If I'm doing a repetitive task like laying down digital line work on a sketch, and coloring. as for animating, I've done lip syncing, and I've made a fan rotate. I've even made a movie segment for the beginning of BCB, but it was rejected. It was because i combined a jpeg image with a smoother lined characters, and they didn't like yashi's voice. I did get props for the sound effects. they liked that much.

If you would like to see my stuff, send me your e-mail.
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thumbsup* I'll do it then, also i wanna see that movie, so far that maybe the only animation project I havent seen yet.
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View PostVolgrand, on 12 January 2012 - 03:07 AM, said:

Hey, long time I didnt visit the forums :D

Nice to see a new project. I can't give you voices (my spanish accent is a problem, really) and I can't barelly draw. But if you need help with sound editing I can provide you a hand.

Also, maybe you will like to use a song we made for Lucy. Lyrics by Lt_Amazil, music by BeberOne (he isnt in the forums) helped by me, and sang by Shada.

Lucy's Song - YouTube

Now we are going to rearrange the volumes so the instruments sound a little higher.

Also I can help with writing scripts or such.

omg! where was i when this was made? this is brilliant. yeah. a little spit and polish and this song would be perfect for the opening sequence.
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Hahaha thanks dude.

Ok, that song was made by that order:

-Lt Amazil did some horrible songs about the comic.
- I listened to them, and I laughted.
- Someone said "Nice lyrics"
- I asked for the lyrics
- I took one and I presented it to my friend BeberOne.
- He made a song. I helped him with the last details.
- I tried to sing it. I suck at singing. Horrible result.
- I asked shada to sing it :D.
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Ok! Here are three rough expressionless face of lucy(more like eyebrowless)
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I think the first two came out really crappy but, I'm not sure what came out wrong so everyone who noticed what went wrong, please comment.

Taeshi: if you're casually browsing here please give me you're opinion on this. You're the autor and I think,as a writer, that something as important as an animation is something you can be picky on, even though it goes againts you're nature or better said... conscience.
Be a critic pwease





Edit 1: I'm kind of ashamed of saying this because it may hurt someone's feelings like this but actully I've been avoiding the lucy song topic since... Well ... The part where she started cursig was out off... In rythm mean if the the words were arranged in different order the song could even sound better, otherwise I liked it. But I didnt want want to say this since it may hurt your feellings or not...

Edit 2: Im having problems picturing lucy getting up from bed like in the first chapter so any ideas?

Edit 3: pwease comment.

This post has been edited by NeonDfro: 25 January 2012 - 01:01 AM

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View PostNeonDfro, on 24 January 2012 - 01:24 AM, said:

Ok! Here are three rough expressionless face of lucy(more like eyebrowless)
>:(
i think the first two came out really crappy but, I'm not sure what came out wrong so everyone who noticed what went wrong, please comment.



Well, the expressions seem ok. But you know, lucy dies, sometimes (Gasp!) even SMILE!

But I don't know anything about animation (well, a little flashpoint, but thats all).



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Edit 1: I'm kind of ashamed of saying this because it may hurt someone's feelings like this but actully I've been avoiding the lucy song topic since... Well ... The part where she started cursig was out off... In rythm mean if the the words were arranged in different order the song could even sound better, otherwise I liked it. But I didnt want want to say this since it may hurt your feellings or not...



My original idea is to cut the song to make a 30-40 secs long intro, ending with the part "And thought our relationship's a sinking ship, for me is a bittersweet candybowl, my bittersweet candy bowl".

No offense or feeling hurt taken, don't worry :).

Anyway, if you want to propose different lyrics, just tell.

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Edit 2: Im having problems picturing lucy getting up from bed like in the first chapter so any ideas?




What kind of problem?
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Adding the expression is the easy part, just add some eyebrows here extend the mouth but, I aiming more for the art, i need to fix the differences in the art so she looks more... lucy but, I'm not sure how or what to do.

1 Good, I was worried if youd' passed me the lyrics i could ic could fix it up a bit and show you what i mean.

2 Since how she gets of the bed isnt shown I can't imagine how does she get out I thought at first that "maybe she gets up" then I facepalmed and "how", i mean the way she gets of the bed is off so I'm not sure how does she. My optiorigjt now arw she stay on bed and only reachs out too check on yashy or sh she puts one foot out as she jumps out and kneel almost automaticly but, it might come out looking wrong that way so, I dont want to waste time doing something that will look bad so, any suggestions?
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1)

Spoiler


2)

Easy way, she's sleeping until Yashy decides to jump down the bed. 1st scene: She shows her head looking to yashy. 2nd: Yashy jumps. 3rd Lucy is out the bed yelling "Yashy!"
  • #34

I heard this before. ehhhhhhh
I however, with adjustments, see this as a parody of "Want You Gone."

This post has been edited by Dr. Klaus: 24 January 2012 - 09:34 PM

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hey didn't you see my stuff NeonDfro? If not I'll go ahead and post here if you want.

as for the animation of lucy getting up, You can do pretty much what you want because taeshi doesn't really care.

now i had the idea of panning from the fan to lucy, and yashi would climb up over lucy,(because if you look closely there is dark mass behind sleeping lucy.) he would say "Sounds like it's time to clear the runway chirps" then he would say "ready!", the camera would switch to lucy and she would then wake up a slowly at first and then Yashi would jump from the bed, realize he isn't flying crash and then the camera would switch to lucy and she would be getting up quickly scolding yashi. I never got that far but thats what I was planning.

edit: sorry, i realized i didn't answer your question. I decided i would imagine my self as lucy and i was going to get out of bed, well first i would pull off the covers with my right arm, then my left leg would drop down and as my left leg drops down my torso would straighten up, and then my right leg would come down and i would be sitting and i would get up. if i was doing it casually.

This post has been edited by TalentedAnthroFreak: 24 January 2012 - 11:09 PM

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View PostDr. Klaus, on 24 January 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

I heard this before. ehhhhhhh
I however, with adjustments, see this as a parody of "Want You Gone."

i would love to see that actually happen :love:
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View PostTalentedAnthroFreak, on 24 January 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

hey didn't you see my stuff NeonDfro? If not I'll go ahead and post here if you want.

as for the animation of lucy getting up, You can do pretty much what you want because taeshi doesn't really care.

now i had the idea of panning from the fan to lucy, and yashi would climb up over lucy,(because if you look closely there is dark mass behind sleeping lucy.) he would say "Sounds like it's time to clear the runway chirps" then he would say "ready!", the camera would switch to lucy and she would then wake up a slowly at first and then Yashi would jump from the bed, realize he isn't flying crash and then the camera would switch to lucy and she would be getting up quickly scolding yashi. I never got that far but thats what I was planning.

edit: sorry, i realized i didn't answer your question. I decided i would imagine my self as lucy and i was going to get out of bed, well first i would pull off the covers with my right arm, then my left leg would drop down and as my left leg drops down my torso would straighten up, and then my right leg would come down and i would be sitting and i would get up. if i was doing it casually.


Yes i did recieve it and checked it so no need "double M" I wasn't what to put you to do but I thought of something already would you try and copy a page Of the the first chapter of the comic that has the kids playing and import it into the library in flash and in a flash document, create two blank key frames and redraw the background in green but, only the lines execpt the kids ill add those, after your don redrawing the background send me the flash file in an attachment and I'll check it out.

Also I wouldn't mind some critism on the pic in the link.
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View PostNeonDfro, on 25 January 2012 - 12:57 AM, said:

View PostTalentedAnthroFreak, on 24 January 2012 - 10:55 PM, said:

hey didn't you see my stuff NeonDfro? If not I'll go ahead and post here if you want.

as for the animation of lucy getting up, You can do pretty much what you want because taeshi doesn't really care.

now i had the idea of panning from the fan to lucy, and yashi would climb up over lucy,(because if you look closely there is dark mass behind sleeping lucy.) he would say "Sounds like it's time to clear the runway chirps" then he would say "ready!", the camera would switch to lucy and she would then wake up a slowly at first and then Yashi would jump from the bed, realize he isn't flying crash and then the camera would switch to lucy and she would be getting up quickly scolding yashi. I never got that far but thats what I was planning.

edit: sorry, i realized i didn't answer your question. I decided i would imagine my self as lucy and i was going to get out of bed, well first i would pull off the covers with my right arm, then my left leg would drop down and as my left leg drops down my torso would straighten up, and then my right leg would come down and i would be sitting and i would get up. if i was doing it casually.




Yes i did recieve it and checked it so no need "double M" I wasn't what to put you to do but I thought of something already would you try and copy a page Of the the first chapter of the comic that has the kids playing and import it into the library in flash and in a flash document, create two blank key frames and redraw the background in green but, only the lines execpt the kids ill add those, after your don redrawing the background send me the flash file in an attachment and I'll check it out.

Also I wouldn't mind some critism on the pic in the link.

Oh your pic? I'm sorry i can't see it. My internet is filtered by my paranoid father who thinks i look at porn every other day. I'll be able to see it next week.

so you want Panel 1 Page 4? Okay I could have that up by saturday night by the latest I'm fairly busy this week but I will try to get it to you as early as possible. and do you want the background colored and have all lines in that panel including lucy, or no? I'm going to go ahead and draw the background lines now.
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Good. But remember only the lines without lucy or the kids I'm planning on adding a watercolor texture to give it a similarity to the current art style.


See how easy is too cooperate guys, so don't be shy I'll get you something to help with. Keep your hands busy in something in something else than the usual.(NSFW)Neeeh- I'm just fool ya people(who do you think you are a comedian)maybe I sould stop with the jokes I might end up in kicked out)
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I'm pretty busy with a lot of projects although :D. But when you start having basic animations I will take care of sound editing ;)
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Yeah noticed so I didnt want to get in your way, also, besides the audiocomic (btw how far are you with that) are any other of your project public (umm I'm kinda curious)
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Well, for parts:

- I'm helping with the game "Bionite: Origins", that will launch the Beta soon. I'm composer and the lead story writter. (that takes a LOT of time)
BIONITE: Origins™ Windows, Mac, iPhone, iPad game - Mod DB

- I'm working with a friend to make our own webcomic

- I'm writting 2 novels (well, that takes less time from me, as i don't have deadline).

The only one you could actually apply for help, appart of the audiocomic, would be Bionite Origins. Just tell me if you want so ;)


As for the Audiocomic, well latelly I received almost all the auditions Voices for chapter 2, so I can start working. I hope to have something for this weekend.

This post has been edited by Volgrand: 27 January 2012 - 07:34 AM

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Good I'm looking foward for it.

Public anaouncement
I need more feed back on the lucy pic, people. Or else the the other characters maybe delayed if I had the money for it I'd just commision taeshi to do the animation design of the characters but I'd be guilty for any problem with the comic and her time is very valuabe.PEOPLE SPEAK UP I NEED THE CRITISM!!
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Personally I think the expressions are ok. But ate those all the expressions in chapter 1? I lean, it only covers the 1st 2 or 3 pages.
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No I mean the style since its not the same as in chapter I'm worried it wouldn't look like bcb also, these are as I said before only three and only in chapter one there are 30 that ill have to draw. Good thing there's the onion paper option.
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okay in the first view lucy's jaw seems a little bit square. i think it should be more rounded.

finished the background. i just need to put it into flash now. heres what it may look like. i used the silhouettes of the characters to help me place the scenery correctly.

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This post has been edited by TalentedAnthroFreak: 29 January 2012 - 07:00 AM

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Send it to me to color and touch up after that.
I'll give yiou another job a wide spread of locys room and the bed


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This post has been edited by NeonDfro: 29 January 2012 - 11:23 PM

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View PostNeonDfro, on 29 January 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

Send it to me to color and touch up after that.
I'll give yiou another job a wide spread of locys room and the bed


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side perspective.........frontal perspective

Okay I'm sorry. I'll be as critical as i can be. for the most part they look fine. i would watch the animation.

front view she has a square jaw, and you could at least show the insides of her ear. on every single view you could show the inside of her ears but i don't know if that would detract from the style. I really can't see anything wrong wit the other 2 views other than the insides of the ears and they look a little blank. 3/4 view lucy you could show the inside of her right ear, side veiw lucy you could add a mouth, nose, and show the insides of her ears as well. you should really know how the ears are oriented. I don't know how to tell you how to know however. Front view lucy you could show the inside of both ears. plus the weird jaw i mentioned earlier could be fixed to something not square but more of a gentle angle. or a shallow angle. maybe 20 degrees? I dunno what to tell you cept maybe look again at her art.

taeshi thinks were going to fail. you don't really have her support on this, so if you want more criticism, i suggest you make a sample video or show progress. how far are you anyway with animating or are we just assembling sets and characters we need in order to make the animation easier? i'm not sure exactly what you are doing.
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My bad, :P I didn't explain my self properly sorry i was giving you more work (but, thats bad id be abusing)not asking for critsm this time asking but......

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Okay I'm sorry. I'll be as critical as i can be. for the most part they look fine. i would watch the animation.

D: means that I have to start over, theres a huge diference between
"fine to watch" and "BCB ANIMATED UPDATED, DRAMA DRAMA!!" beacuase the desings will be for the rest of mddleschool then they'll change so its got to be as apealing as the comic.
But I'm not discouraged quite the opposite.
Thanks for the tips you'll see them in full body version withe and chapters expressions as soon as I can borrow the laptop, my current pc is dying. ;_;

Right now its only the planning and preparing to reduse the work.
About Taeshi, I can't say I wasnt expecting that, after all those attempts, so, for in encouragemeant, I'll have the Pilot done in in a month to prove my resolution on this(wait that was darkspeeds error he was too impatient) if I'm delayed I'll inform ya'll. Though I hope that after that you wont have any doubts on me.
Infact I have someting i was working on but, I suspended that one to do the real animation, I'll edit it a bit and show you that one aswell.

oh, but where did you get the info 'bout her opinion?

This post has been edited by NeonDfro: 30 January 2012 - 06:05 AM

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