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"Come on guys, put down the controller. Lead her with Grace, instead of trying to control her."

  • Grass
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Oh my god how can people seriously like this? Its like they really cannot look into what he is ACTUALLY saying, which is stuff like, "Without jesus a marriage will WILL NEVER WORK." He really seems to think that only marriages that focus on jesus will work. He also seems to put out the idea that men shouldn't control women, they should "lead them."

Isn't that pretty much the same damn thing? :nope:

HE HAS NEVER BEEN MARRIED, BUT HE THINKS HE CAN TELL PEOPLE HOW TO RUN THEIR MARRIAGES.


So guys, do you think he is right?
Do you think he is an idiot?

This post has been edited by Grass: 29 January 2012 - 09:37 PM

  • #1
  • 29 January 2012 - 09:24 PM
  • Meowth
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Oh, Religious people being stupid again. Don't we already have this thread?

This post has been edited by Meowth: 29 January 2012 - 09:30 PM

  • #2
  • 29 January 2012 - 09:30 PM
No, not quite.

Also, OP, Grass, I think you wanted to say "will never work", "always not work" implies it might still work.
  • #3
  • 29 January 2012 - 09:32 PM
As much as this guy implying that marriage can only work if founded on religion irritates me, what irritates me more is that he rhymes through the whole thing. Like a children's book.
  • #4
  • 29 January 2012 - 09:38 PM
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I don't think he's that bad. I mean, sure, it's a four-minute video that's mostly silence, but when he does talk it doesn't seem like bad advice he's saying.

Oh, wait, I bet you guys forgot to turn on your religion filters, didn't you. Was all that silence really insipid blathering? That would explain what you all are saying.

Seriously, though, I may never have been married, but I do think that his point about how you should make sure you actually like your spouse before you marry him/her seems like good advice. I've heard religious people say much stupider things than "marriage should be based on Jesus" as well.
  • #5
  • 29 January 2012 - 09:52 PM
  • Grass
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You did hear the part about leading (I.E telling your wife what to do all the time), right?
I like to think that blocks out all of his "Make sure you really like your spouse."
I mean, isn't that pretty much fucking standard logic?
  • #6
  • 29 January 2012 - 10:06 PM
You'd think that actually liking someone before you marry them would be common sense, but there are still lots of marriages like my mom's first marriage where they sort of liked each other but then they just didn't after being married a while. As for the leading thing, he could just mean "help her stay on a good path" which could mean anything from telling her what to do to talking with her and discussing what to do with events that come along. The advice he gives isn't all that terrible, he just sort of ruins it with the rhyming and religion he injects into it.
  • #7
  • 29 January 2012 - 10:12 PM

View Postnate, on 29 January 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

As for the leading thing, he could just mean "help her stay on a good path" which could mean anything from telling her what to do to talking with her and discussing what to do with events that come along. The advice he gives isn't all that terrible, he just sort of ruins it with the rhyming and religion he injects into it.

If that were the case why wouldn't he just say keep eachother on the straight and narrow rather then focusing only on guiding the women. Singling out one member of the relationship implies that member is inherently worse at staying on focus.
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  • 29 January 2012 - 10:47 PM

View PostRawrdinosaur, on 29 January 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

View Postnate, on 29 January 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

As for the leading thing, he could just mean "help her stay on a good path" which could mean anything from telling her what to do to talking with her and discussing what to do with events that come along. The advice he gives isn't all that terrible, he just sort of ruins it with the rhyming and religion he injects into it.

If that were the case why wouldn't he just say keep eachother on the straight and narrow rather then focusing only on guiding the women. Singling out one member of the relationship implies that member is inherently worse at staying on focus.

Well yeah, that's true. I just think that some of the advice was good, just presented in a bad way, like singling out women and implying that jesus has to be a factor. And the goddamn rhyming.
  • #9
  • 29 January 2012 - 10:50 PM
There is good advice hidden in almost everything. Most marriage advice is very cliche and obvious in the first place so its not really suprising that there is some good missed in with the bad.
  • #10
  • 29 January 2012 - 10:56 PM
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Man Grass I hope you get hit by a car.
  • #11
  • 30 January 2012 - 03:30 AM
But since he's obviously gay though, I don't think he'll have to worry about marriage. The only rule he'll need to follow is "don't get caught," since he probably lives in a state that has the words "fag drag" somewhere in its legal code.
  • #12
  • 30 January 2012 - 03:47 AM
roses are red
violets are blue
independence is but an illlusion
a man owns you!
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  • 31 January 2012 - 10:25 PM
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View PostRawrdinosaur, on 29 January 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

View Postnate, on 29 January 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

As for the leading thing, he could just mean "help her stay on a good path" which could mean anything from telling her what to do to talking with her and discussing what to do with events that come along. The advice he gives isn't all that terrible, he just sort of ruins it with the rhyming and religion he injects into it.
If that were the case why wouldn't he just say keep eachother on the straight and narrow rather then focusing only on guiding the women. Singling out one member of the relationship implies that member is inherently worse at staying on focus.

The whole video is addressed to men, so it's less like he's singling women out and more like he's giving his audience advice.

but yeah, religion and rhyming and crap. Also, lonely and holy don't rhyme very well.
  • #14
  • 01 February 2012 - 10:24 AM
Wow, none of you have heard of spoken word poetry before? Uncultured fucks can't deal with rhyming.

I think this was a good message muddled in religious values and now people like Grass won't take anything good from it because of a possible allusion to sexism and the word 'Jesus'. We get it, you're all pretty much atheist. Get over it now, okay?
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  • 01 February 2012 - 01:58 PM

  • #16
  • 01 February 2012 - 08:39 PM
I lose whatever respect I have in a person when they link to/post an AmazingAtheist video.

LOL, let's analyze a spoken word poem literally.
  • #17
  • 01 February 2012 - 10:34 PM

View PostBourbon, on 01 February 2012 - 01:58 PM, said:

Wow, none of you have heard of spoken word poetry before? Uncultured fucks can't deal with rhyming.

I think this was a good message muddled in religious values and now people like Grass won't take anything good from it because of a possible allusion to sexism and the word 'Jesus'. We get it, you're all pretty much atheist. Get over it now, okay?


I've heard of spoken word poetry, and it can be really good. This isn't good. Message aside, the rhyming is poor and sounds like the kind of stuff you'd find in a children's book and his delivery isn't good. He's forcing rhymes and (like position and fiction) and he's speaking in this odd segmented way, emphasizing in weird places and basically just sucking at performing it.
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  • 02 February 2012 - 02:59 AM

View PostMeowth, on 29 January 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

Oh, Religious people being stupid again. Don't we already have this thread?


He isn't religious stupid, he just loves Jesus.


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  • 02 February 2012 - 01:01 PM

View PostTobi, on 02 February 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

He isn't religious stupid, he just loves Jesus.

I've been hearing this a lot lately. It's like a shrill warning that whoever I'm talking to is an idiot.
  • #20
  • 02 February 2012 - 04:28 PM
If you love Jesus


does that make you gay
  • #21
  • 02 February 2012 - 05:12 PM

View Postesalaka, on 02 February 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

If you love Jesus


does that make you gay


Does loving your father make you gay?
  • #22
  • 02 February 2012 - 05:17 PM
If you look up the lyrics to virtually any Christian song ever made, you have to admit there really is some degree of homoeroticism in there.
  • #23
  • 02 February 2012 - 08:31 PM
"I wanna get down on my knees and start pleasing Jesus, I'll feel his salvation all over my face..."

Nate, not everyone can be Scroobius Pip I'm afraid.

I'm really hoping Tobi was trying to be funny and it just fell flat.
  • #24
  • 02 February 2012 - 09:38 PM
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religion says slave.
religion puts you in bondage.
:smirk:
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  • 02 February 2012 - 11:48 PM
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View PostTobi, on 02 February 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

View PostMeowth, on 29 January 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

Oh, Religious people being stupid again. Don't we already have this thread?


He isn't religious stupid, he just loves Jesus.




I hath been convinced. Praise him.
  • #26
  • 03 February 2012 - 12:17 AM
  • Grass
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Love you too ace. :-*

This post has been edited by Grass: 03 February 2012 - 02:00 AM

  • #27
  • 03 February 2012 - 01:59 AM
If we took religious debates out of this forum, I wonder how different it would be?
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  • 03 February 2012 - 03:46 AM

View PostThatGuy, on 03 February 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

If we took religious debates out of this forum, I wonder how different it would be?


Abortion debate
Assisted Suicide Debate
Legalize Weed debate
legal age to drink debate.

Religion is a platform to debate with. Just because we get rid of it, doesn't mean we wouldn't argue. So it won't be much different. TD will make incredibly long posts, Meowth will be misunderstood and get angry, Grass will post random nonsence and Jerk will chime in with a quote irrelevant yet still on topic.

Same old same old.
  • #29
  • 03 February 2012 - 03:51 AM

View PostMigrant, on 02 February 2012 - 11:48 PM, said:

religion says slave.
religion puts you in bondage.
:smirk:

Was it absolutely necessary to mix something I hate with something that turns me on?

Christ, this must be how everyone who isn't me feels all the time.
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  • 03 February 2012 - 06:36 AM
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View PostPants, on 03 February 2012 - 03:51 AM, said:

Meowth will be misunderstood and get angry,


Story of my fucking life
  • #31
  • 05 February 2012 - 05:15 PM
This isn't a video about marriage.
This is a video about religion.

This topic is no longer about what makes a marriage, but instead, how western religion is a cancer that infects everything and corrupts it into it's own.
Resistance is futile.

This post has been edited by Radial: 05 February 2012 - 08:57 PM

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  • 05 February 2012 - 08:50 PM

View PostJerk, on 02 February 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

View PostTobi, on 02 February 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

He isn't religious stupid, he just loves Jesus.

I've been hearing this a lot lately. It's like a shrill warning that whoever I'm talking to is an idiot.

How about having faith, but fully believing that organized religion can go eat a dick?
  • #33
  • 06 February 2012 - 02:06 AM
How about not putting blind trust in anything that is so unsupported, and instead going with logical facts and data from controlled experiments?
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  • 06 February 2012 - 03:31 AM

View PostDr. Klaus, on 06 February 2012 - 03:31 AM, said:

How about not putting blind trust in anything that is so unsupported, and instead going with logical facts and data from controlled experiments?

It's called "faith" for a reason. Science and data have nothing to do with it :/

This post has been edited by ChewySmokey: 06 February 2012 - 03:34 AM

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  • 06 February 2012 - 03:34 AM
and I'm saying it's stupid
  • #36
  • 06 February 2012 - 03:44 AM
How about we don't bitch and complain about a message that wasn't intended for us and instead lash out at them when they actively attack us and call us heathens?
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  • 06 February 2012 - 03:44 AM
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View PostJerk, on 03 February 2012 - 06:36 AM, said:

View PostMigrant, on 02 February 2012 - 11:48 PM, said:

religion says slave.
religion puts you in bondage.
:smirk:

Was it absolutely necessary to mix something I hate with something that turns me on?

Christ, this must be how everyone who isn't me feels all the time.

You get turned on by religion? Weirdo!
  • #38
  • 11 February 2012 - 10:13 AM
If a religion brings fuzzy handcuffs and a ballgag, sign me the fuck up.
  • #39
  • 11 February 2012 - 09:20 PM
The safety word is "Hallelujah" :-*
  • #40
  • 11 February 2012 - 11:08 PM
There are no safety words in heaven. Prepare your body.
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  • 12 February 2012 - 06:12 AM
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