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The situation: my english teacher has given us an assignment to write a short narrative along the framework of an epic. That part's not a problem, since the way she thinks "epic" is very general, but the narrative itself is the problem. I'm stuck, the writing feels like crap, and I know there are a lot of good writers and peer reviewers here.

Can you guys help in improving it and providing ideas?

the premise of the story:
important things:
Alec - fourteen. boy. Intelligent, resourceful, but pessimistic and apathetic. Naturally very resistant to the Shadow.
Rue - eighteen. girl. serious, no-nonsense, quick wits, impulsive, headstrong, leader. "made her own" immunity to the Shadow.
Ulysses - Alec’s late father. Dedicated most of his later life to helping people get out of reach of the Shadow.
Shadow - An entity borne of dark emotions. It is in the form of an invisible field in which several deadly/dangerous symptoms (extreme negative emotions, hallucinations, extreme fear, dark thoughts, insanity, death) result. The effects strengthen as one goes nearer to the source of the Shadow. There are some who are immune to the Shadow, which dampens the effects of the field to the point of tolerability, but not completely.
Chimera - the name given to the source of the Shadow. the Shadow radiates from it. Like the Shadow, it is invisible, but the effects from it are so strong that it appears visible; it is apart from the physical world, so must be destroyed mentally.
Monsters - not physical monsters, but representations of a person’s fear and dark emotions as they try to drive that person insane.

The synopsis is here:
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and what I've written so far is here:
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This post has been edited by Blue-eyed Fire: 02 March 2012 - 01:30 PM

  • #1

I'd help you out, but I get the feeling that your English skills are better than my own. (It pains me to say that.)
If it's just a writers block, I'd suggest taking a break and doing something else for a short while, then coming back to this with a refreshed mind.
Though you probably knew that already.
  • #2

Have Alec find out that the Rue who 'made' an immunity is a hallucination and the real Rue died. Fuck happy endings, Chimera feeds Alec's insecurities and makes him the new core thingie. Don't explain all of it, the audience doesn't need to know everything.
  • #3

Well, I didn't have time to read the whole thing, but the premise seems very cool. I'll check it out when I have time. Also, be sure to use semicolons; bitches love semicolons.
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View PostmAceOfHearts, on 02 March 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

I'd help you out, but I get the feeling that your English skills are better than my own. (It pains me to say that.)
If it's just a writers block, I'd suggest taking a break and doing something else for a short while, then coming back to this with a refreshed mind.
Though you probably knew that already.

I dont have time to do that, though... s'due in a couple days, and I'm only something like 1/4 through...
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.........HELP


PLEASE
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Which part of this do you feel like you need the most help in? The grammar? The prose? Where the story should go next?
  • #7

Alright, calm down--I'm assuming this is due soon, so I'll do what I can. This is also a good excuse not to do my homework--/shot

Also, I just noticed this topic--don't think I was ignoring your asking for help in this topic. ;;

Epic (n.) - "A long poem, typically one derived from ancient oral tradition, narrating the deeds and adventures of heroic or legendary figures or the history of a nation"

Assuming that, your synopsis remains within the parameters of an epic--at least, it fits the first question. In its own right, you've provided a new twist on an ancient form of narrative, at least in historical terms: you've made Alec a Byronic hero. At least, I think I'm using that term right. And sure, it's been done before, but not often in history.

The synopsis is an interesting story idea. It vaguely reminds me of the Persona series, but only vaguely. This is why I like original fiction: free reign on what will transpire. Anyhow, let's take a look at your structure, before I assess the story... And NOTE: Some of this grammar stuff is more subjective and what you write sometimes isn't wrong, but the flow could be improved. I'll also try to point out each kind of mistake only once, and hope you get the message. I'm also not going to correct every little awkward phrase--just the major offenders that would catch my attention if I were just reading to enjoy it.

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And that's that for major grammar. Now then, as for your story as a whole... It's interesting, and flows pretty well so long as I ignore those grammar errors that were so blatant that the normal reader might not ignore them. I don't rightly think I can say anything bad about it at this point--not the first part because it's written by Rue; not the second part because it's, well, good. And not too long, so there's little chance for error.

Allow me to offer an idea of where to take this...

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I think it took me about an hour to write this, so I hope it helped~

Now back to my own homework...
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Updated version: complete with corrections. I've changed it a bit so that Alec initially knows nothing about his immunity. I've also advanced a great deal. There's also some added stuff in the paragraph beginning with "Alec looked down at his feet" that emphasizes his outsider status.



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This post has been edited by Blue-eyed Fire: 05 March 2012 - 12:14 PM

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I'm going to operate under the assumption that you've done okay with fixing the story up to the point I read. From what I saw, you added my corrections, so I'm glad for that. :> So, if you don't mind, I'll help with round two, grammar wise. If I see any inconsistencies I'll point those out, too, but I've already given an idea for the story, so that's over with. Let's see what we've got here...

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Mkay. So, a few things that I noticed (I'll go in the order that I remember them).

First of all, Alec seems to be slightly inconsistent in his character. Allow me to pull a bit of your story that demonstrates this point nicely.

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Well, I don’t give a crap. She can think what she wants, Alec thought bitterly.
But it still hurt.

Now then, I understand that it's likely that he was trying to convince himself that he didn't care and yet he actually did. But I didn't know that at first. You probably want to make it more clear. Such as showing some actions like "he closed his eyes tightly" or something along those lines. It's not obvious that he's sometimes inconsistent, but since I'm watching this story closely (like your teacher will), I see that it's there.

Second, Rue is in danger of becoming a Mary Sue. You briefly mention that she "didn't always come up with the best solutions and was impulsive," but that isn't really shown yet (more on that later). I can't rightly call her a Mary Sue yet, because I haven't seen enough of her. But right now, I have the picture of an attractive Asian girl who can solve world hunger given the time. Again, I won't say she's a Mary Sue yet, but be sure to make it clear that those qualities you mentioned are demonstrated in the story. Otherwise, she will remain unrealistically perfect.

Last of all: show, don't tell! This is one of the things in writing that I'm most passionate about. You dedicate some paragraphs solely to describing Rue's character. Look, saying where she came from, that I can understand. But don't just say that she's made of sugar, spice, and everything nice with a dash of element x. Past is okay, personality is not. Show that she's nice. Make her take almost meticulous care of him. Show that she's impulsive. As soon as he refuses to join her, have her just march right off. Don't worry about describing people's personalities. If you do it right, then their personality will become apparent through their dialogue, the dialogue of others, their actions, and in rarer cases the actions of others.

You're doing pretty well for yourself so far. Just try to keep these warnings in mind as you progress. I hope this helped, and I'm really sorry if this criticism seemed harsh. :<

This post has been edited by Lux Aeterna: 06 March 2012 - 02:56 AM

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View PostLux Aeterna, on 05 March 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

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View Postesalaka, on 05 March 2012 - 10:19 PM, said:

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Yes, that would also work. I'm just doing what I can to keep it as close to her (her? I think it's a she) original words as possible. I don't want her to change her style, but I do want her to fix blatant errors.
  • #12

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Deleted the post with the kabillion emoticons, don't do that nonsense again.
  • #13

Yes : X won't happen again

This post has been edited by Blue-eyed Fire: 06 March 2012 - 07:10 AM

  • #14

Again, thank you for the advice ;_;

Corrected everything and then wrote it along some more. Just assume that the things that you assume should be in italics are in italics, because I'm too lazy to go through and do every single one XP

The conversation between Alec and Rue, though, is painful to read. Can somebody help improve it?

also, any advice on how the Rue-Tries-To-Convince-Alec-To-Join-Them-To-Destroy-The-Shadow situation plays out?

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This post has been edited by Blue-eyed Fire: 06 March 2012 - 11:24 AM

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Just assume that the things that you assume should be in italics are in italics, because I'm too lazy to go through and do every single one XP

Well, Blue, I hope so. I'm just going to hope that it's italics each time it should be, because now I have no way of knowing. xD

Anyway, I'm going to do something a bit out there... I'm going to rewrite the conversation between Rue and Alec myself. I want you to take a look at it and keep in mind what I do, because I think it might be easier than explaining what you did.

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Alright. I that helped a little--it took a while to write. I just wrote it in my style to make it flow naturally. I also changed the events a little--so that Rue already tries to get him to join... well, as you can see. Anyway, I recommend that what happens after the desolation is that he finds a trail. Taking advantage of his immunity and also feeling very little need to care about his life, he follows along the trail, which will eventually lead to him finding Rue.

Skyrim time. Again, I hope that helped, Blue. But if you don't want me to do this whole "write-it-myself" thing as an example, just let me know.

EDIT: Also notice that I displayed her impulsiveness from the get-go by showing her so quickly come up with an idea that seemed rash.

This post has been edited by Lux Aeterna: 06 March 2012 - 10:31 PM

  • #16

I'm in conflict. I just want to copy-paste your writing right into the story, but I'm afraid that it won't be original. Eh, I'll figure something out.

So the due date's tomorrow, and I guess I'll finish the bugger off by myself - THANK YEW AND OXYGEN COOKIES to you. Thnx very much. You have saved my soul from the bowels of darkness.
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View PostBlue-eyed Fire, on 02 March 2012 - 12:55 PM, said:

I know there are a lot of good writers and peer reviewers here.

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View PostBlue-eyed Fire, on 07 March 2012 - 11:49 AM, said:

I'm in conflict. I just want to copy-paste your writing right into the story, but I'm afraid that it won't be original. Eh, I'll figure something out.

So the due date's tomorrow, and I guess I'll finish the bugger off by myself - THANK YEW AND OXYGEN COOKIES to you. Thnx very much. You have saved my soul from the bowels of darkness.

It's worse than that--they would realize that it wouldn't be your style. But there's nothing wrong with doing close to what I did; just write it your own way.

No problem. May you get an A, or the highest grade for wherever you live.
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