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I think the issue here is more your unnecessary selfconsciousness. You're seeing an issue that totally isn't there: people shooting you down for defending some chick is totally based on context, and more often than not we'll be irritated because you're defending someone who's wrong rather than because you're defending the girl in question. Stop being so sensitive.

This post has been edited by Sammy: 24 March 2012 - 04:21 PM

Or we could ignore you, and do far more important things than appease some random people on a forum.

TheMysteriousMan, on 24 March 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

That's a pretty cowardly thing to say.

I merged Nik's silly second topic into this one.

This thread is kind of a mess. BasketCase: get out here and apologize to suitcase.

I'd rather her make a fool of herself than apologise.

That's kind of a dickish thing to say, but whatever. What the hell just happened to this thread? There's all these posts there now that weren't there before.

Shada, on 24 March 2012 - 04:24 PM, said:

Or maybe we really just dont give a shit about any of you.

TheMysteriousMan, on 24 March 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

Read: 'Clearly we could ignore you as we don't give a shit about any of you, but I thought I'd take the time to tell you all this as we clearly do!'

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Merged threads.

This post has been edited by LackLuster: 24 March 2012 - 04:30 PM

Im asking her.

Johnny Hurricane, on 24 March 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

He merged threads.

TheMysteriousMan, on 24 March 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

You do realize that the only way to clean up this mess is for Basket to stop trying to paint herself as the victim and apologize.

I don't think BasketCase is reading this. Someone should just PM her, and we should all just wait.

Or Suitcase could lock the topic, and make her create a new topic when she does apologize. Special Ed. her until she does apologize, maybe?

Jesus. Is... is this what this community is always like? Astonishingly childish whining over insignificant crap?

Johnny Hurricane, on 24 March 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

No, she need to do something wrong on the forums before she can get Special Ed. Aren't those the rules?

Sorry

Well shit, now my thread that was based on a degree of past events has been forever only associated with this, what the hell. Should I just post that thread on SS? Cause I was actually looking for opinions, not people looking at it and assuming the whole thing was me yelling at suitcase on this one thread. Rather yelling at suitcase for previous threads where he used that argument too.

Alright topic closed boys.

mAceOfHearts, on 24 March 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

Theoretically they could just make it a dictatorship and screw the rules.

SergeantLuke, on 24 March 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

No, we also get pretentious assholes who call everyone children. Sound familiar?

"topic closed" Yes, because the apology was certainly genuine.

Whatever, she did what she was asked. I harbor nothing ill towards her currently, unless she does something equally bad again. I am satisfied.

This post has been edited by Susan: 24 March 2012 - 04:38 PM

Wait, SuitCase hasn't accepted the apology yet! It's all up to him!

fuck it

This post has been edited by Rex: 24 March 2012 - 04:39 PM

Susan, on 24 March 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

>Implying I was being serious.

This post has been edited by WTF: 24 March 2012 - 04:40 PM

This is why it's all up to SuitCase. He can interpret the apology as genuine and move on, or interpret it as ingenuine and insist on a proper apology.

Nik, on 24 March 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

When in reality Basketcase has been nothing but a royal bitch this whole time.

BasketCase, on 24 March 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

Ha ha.

Remember, Recess friends, you were the only ones chattering about an apology. I said above that the purpose of this topic was for BasketCase (and by extension, those who act like her in this private Skype thing) to explain their feelings and justify whatever they've been saying.

SuitCase, for some reason, I like you a little bit more now.

For someone whining about people being assholes Nik is being an asshole about it himself -- not that the former is validated anyhow.

I admit I miss-worded my request, I was asking for an apology and I forgot about what the point of the topic was, it wasnt what was intended...ha...

This post has been edited by Shada: 24 March 2012 - 05:07 PM

Was this thread always this confusing

For a while, I thought I had it all figured out, and then it turned out SuitCase didn't even want an apology, but just wanted to embarass BasketCase for bad-mouthing him behind his back. Which makes them even, I guess.

But I've done that as well, why is nobody doing this to me?

Although I suppose that's mostly because I just can't stand some people's opinions, they make me want to break objects in my near vicinity.

This post has been edited by esalaka: 24 March 2012 - 05:13 PM

Hey esalaka I guess it's cause Suitcase didn't know maybe

Although to be honest you and the rest of the "other side hurrrrr" made it pretty obvious why you were so offended.

Why can't anyone lay out the things that BasketCase and the others feel about us, and what their justification is for feeling that?

And if there's nothing and this is all a misconception, why has there been no explanation as to why the Formspring questioner said what they said?

It's not that hard to keep this topic simple. I'm sorry I wasn't explicit in the first post, but I thought it was obvious enough once quoted.

esalaka, on 24 March 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

Is that a request?

SuitCase, on 24 March 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

Who the hell is the questioner?

SushiJaguar, on 24 March 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

I am completely neutral in terms of IRC-Forum-Skype alignment

How do you feel about... blank? is the question, I think mebbe...

@Esa

This was apparently more of a "Suitcase and Taeshi are being mean to me, let's talk shit behind their back" issue anyway. Despite the fact that the only thing they really got upset with her over was the shit regarding SoulTH and that argument between her and Susan on the IRC. It wasn't an issue about their opinions, she was talking trash about how they were treating her badly and it came back to bite her in the ass.

I like BasketCase. When she's not being tempermental, she's fun to talk to. But if she'd come right out and explained what happened and offered her viewpoint the majority of this thread wouldn't have happened. It doesn't help that most people are rallying their wagons around her. Look, I get that you like her and there's nothing wrong with that, but part of being a friend is having the guts to call your friends out for their mistakes. Instead, it's almost like I'm looking at a bunch of people with persecution delusions, who are sitting her kicking and spitting and hissing at Suitcase when all he's wanting is an explanation (and a little deserved payback.) That's NOT helping BasketCase, in fact, if the post to Taeshi's Formspring was just a shit stirrer stirring shit then all they're doing is making her look guilty.

Now, @ The Posters in this Thread:

If you want to help Basket, the best way to do it is shut up and let her take responsibility. If she was innocent, you've fucked it now. Learn a little something called self-control. This thread was aimed at BasketCase, partly in an attempt to punish her and partly in an attempt to find out what she was going on about. Instead, it's turned into one group of people pushing for this to happen and another group of people who are practically dicksucking her. The only reason this wasn't discussed in the PM's is her past behavior shows she DOES believe Taeshi and Suit are bullying her, or that she's at least spinning it that way. Again, the best way to solve this issue is for those who are defending her to shut up and let her handle it, and for her to explain her case.

Makes sense to me.

This post has been edited by SuitCase: 24 March 2012 - 05:46 PM
Reason for edit: don't quote the post above you like a retard

Carcharocles, on 24 March 2012 - 05:30 PM, said:

(...How is that not dependent on opinions?)

I haven't personally witnessed this trashtalking and from an empirical point-of-view I could say there's no sufficient proof - but whatever, that's not really the point I was supposed to make.

I do consider SuitCase quite a douche and I apparently hate half of his opinions on things so I'm sort of naturally inclined to be against his point-of-view regardless of how he presents it but especially if it's particularly smugly.

But basically talking shit about suit is something I completely approve of as are personal insults as an administrative strategy as long as they're somewhat controlled and don't just turn into massive shitfests.

So, I want to clear a few things up really quick.

The skype group was not created to bash the mods, instead as a way to keep in touch with a friend of ours, mintylimegreen, who was leaving. also, the "say something about the person above you thread was turning into a chat between the recessians, and in an effort to stop the topic going under, we created the skype group to have a nice place to chat and hang out. it had nothing to do with soulTH. we figured because some of us aren't the most popular with the SS crowd, who commonly hang out in the IRC, that a skype group would be convenient, private, and a nice group of friends that would allow us to just hang out.

Then Gurren happened.

I don't know what gurren did to baskey to make her hate him so, aside from being a total git, but it relly freaked her out. even after suit mistakenly said he wasn't soulTH, which should have been the end of it, she continued to hate, and in some cases I believe, fear gurren. I still believe her reaction to the whole thing was over the top, which I have said to her multiple times in the chat. what you guys seem to fail to grasp is that you all thing we are sitting around going "yep, mmm, suit and tae suuure are shitty" when most of us are telling her to stop freaking out and take a few deep breaths. we tried to suport and be her friend, but we weren't spoonfeeding her bullshit. one of the most vocal examples is nik, who publicly fought baskey about the gurren incident not two weeks ago. He also took the position that she was overeacting and needed to let it go.

The IRC shit is old and tired. she was out of line, end of story, she came in and made drama. sorry bask, but you did. if you look, I'm tying to defuse it and get her back on track, but I obviously failed.

This topic makes me upset, because while I have friends in the skype group who I have no doubt will have issue with this post, I also have respect for the SS crew, and I would hope that some of them have some respect for me. it saddens me that it has come to this, and that everyone in the group will most likely be tared with this incident on their reputation for a while to come.

The thing is, we've all said something in the chat that was probably a bit over the top. Thing is, we were venting. we may have bashed you, but I doubt any of us harbor anything past that first rant. it's a way of getting it out, clearing the air, so that we don't hold the grudge. for example, I was pissed when I read susan's post about killing conservatives, and made a dump post and then called sue a jerk in the chat. but I don't hate her, cause I got it out. it's the past.

anyway, the TL;DR version is:
*Basket was overreacting, and was commonly told as much by the skype group.
*The skype group, as OP said was not created to bash, just as a way of keeping in touch with old friends.
*I hope that we are not tared with this for the remainder of our bcb foruming
*90% of what we talk about is just chatting, like an IRC
*suit wasn't in the right to make this topic, but neither was baskey to act that way in the first place

This post has been edited by Chris: 24 March 2012 - 06:30 PM

Basketcase is over-emotional and a bitch.

Suitcase is an asshole who felt this needed to be posted here and not pm'ed.

This BasketCase drama bullshit is painfully old and outdated.

Susan is an offensive bitch.

Everybody who disagrees with Tae or Suit is white-knighting.

People hate Tae and Suit.

Wow. I love how new all of this is.

I'm officially done with this thread. Off-topic: Meowth, who drew that avatar?

You obviously didn't read my post about strawmanning this topic. Of course the chat isn't titled "TAESHI AND SUITCASE HATE CHAT 2012". Of course you talk about your own stuff there.

esalaka, the kind of sentiment in your post - and Nik's, and some others - is again a seemingly deliberate way to avoid fulfilling the purpose of this topic. The purpose being: to shed light on these undercurrents of anti-me-and-Vero sentiment. If people just mumble about feeling negative and "agreeing with Baskey" then you're hardly saying anything at all.

Edit: First para was directed at Chris. I should add that Meowth's passive-aggression counts for the same sort of thing that esalaka did. But esalaka was rambling about wanting to be banned so I guess he won't be able to respond now? Weird.

Sometimes we just dont think you guys handle situations very well, so some of us might go on for alittle bit, some of us dont care about it, than we go and talk about something else. Thats it.

@Johnny

PanPan/RainbowPanda/CottonSwab

@Suit

Why would anyone even want to bother giving you a real answer? No matter how many explanations you are given for people hating you both, you never listen; and if you do listen, you can't help yourself from ironically responding like a dick or saying they're wrong.

What you fail to understand is that no matter how many fallacies you pretend that you have exposed, the end is always the same: people are tired of your often unjustifiable, antagonizing bullshit. And the same applies to Tae.

Kudos for meowth for publicly stating his problem with someone. Not gossiping about it behind Suit's back.

Johnny Hurricane, on 24 March 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Johnny, trust me, he knew the things I had against him from the start. What I meant was that no matter how many times I say them, it will never make a difference. To him, I will always be at fault. In an instance like this, I don't think talking about him behind his back makes a difference, since saying it straight to him would only incite fights, but never change anything (except land you an unclever title )

I agree, that must've taken a lot of courage.
Or are everyone else just pussies?