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The new show from the creators of The Last Airbender premiers in a little under a month. Discuss Avatar: The Legend of Korra and The Last Airbender.

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Well from the first episode that was leaked it looks like it'll be pretty damn good.

http://dubhappy.com/...orra-episode-1/
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Well, the first two episodes are playing backtoback on Korra Nation right now. I think the social dynamics present in the episode are interesting. For instance, when Korra meets that homeless man and when she runs into someone speaking out against benders. Like, as a character, I actually flat out hate Korra. She's so arrogant and ignorant of both the world and her role as the Avatar, but I think that that will come to pass as the series continues. I mean, take a look at Aang. He changed a lot as the series continued.
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Actually, I'm pretty sure your avatar is from MLP:FiM, not the Last Airbender.
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At first, I thought this was something completely different. Anyways, I watched the first two episodes. I also dislike the main character, but I can easily see her becoming less annoying and god-awful as the series progresses. I'm excited for more. Also: Prince Zuko. What's he been up to?
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From what I hear he's likely dead, although it has been confirmed his voice actor is playing someone related to him. So maybe a son or something.
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The art of the show is fantastic -- the pinnacle is the beautifully rendered statue of Aang. However, the writing is ham-handed which I think was tarnished by executive meddling. The dialogue is so awkwardly bad. And, a lot of parts feel so unrealistic to the point of absurdity. Many of the adults are handled as if they don't know any better. It feels like Nickelodeon is forcing the "the children know better" trope that's featured in so many of its shows by making Tenzen -- who is immersed in a diplomatic environment -- suddenly heeding Korra's plead to stay at the Republic City at the last moment. My most favorite part of the story so far is how regular citizens are forming mobs to deal with the inequality between benders and non-benders, and the best part is Korra arguing with them immaturely gloating about how benders are cool; making the mob even angrier (I can't wait to see how that develops)
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I don't think it's a case of "the children know better", Seppu. I think in Tenzin's case it's more that he was focusing so hard on his father's legacy as a diplomat that he forgot how important it is for Korra to start trying to create a spiritual connection to bending. I mean, come on. Tenzin isn't some slouch, after all.

And yeah, the mob scene was my favorite. Korra just don't understand how much better she has it since she's a bender.

This post has been edited by Kaxbe: 24 March 2012 - 08:23 PM

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I feel like the polar bear/dog thing is just a shallow attempt at recreating the awesomeness that was Appa, the flying bison. Appa=wildly awesome and creative. bear/dog=meh.

This post has been edited by Johnny Hurricane: 24 March 2012 - 08:29 PM

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But that was a practical example of the children knowing better though. Didn't Korra go to Tenzin primarily to learn how to airbend? The teachers back at Korra's home emphasized on the spiritual aspect, and presumably would've taught her about that.
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Seppu, it's more like she's rift for the wrong reason whereas Tenzin came around to Korra's way of thinking for the right reasons. Bryke wouldn't pull such stupid Children Always Right trope throughout the whole thing. I mean, I doubt Bei Fong will warm up to Korra any time soon. Sure, Korra is the Avatar, but she's still human

AND FUCK YOU, JOHNNY. KORRA'S POLAR BEAR DOG IS THE FIRST ONE TO BE DOMESTICATED EVER. PLUS IT'S WAY CUTER THAN ANY AIR BISON.
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I would rather have a flying, semi-intelligent bison that can soar through the air than a large beardog.

View PostKaxbe, on 24 March 2012 - 11:57 PM, said:



AND FUCK YOU, JOHNNY. KORRA'S POLAR BEAR DOG IS THE FIRST ONE TO BE DOMESTICATED EVER. PLUS IT'S WAY CUTER THAN ANY AIR BISON.

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I like how you used the same topic title as the user avatar discussion thread :P
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That's the joke.
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The two episodes were in my opinion quite good. My main problem is the fact that there is really little to no explination to why Republic city started going downhill. All that I basically know is that some hell started to break loose after Aang's death, and then the benders started to believe that they're better than anyone else, as opposed to the firebenders in the original series believing that because of imperialism. Apparently the benders in the newer series just decided to become complete asshole. Sure we have benders like the metal benders, but they're just law enforcement. Rest is either guys that are on a pro-bending team or a complete jerk. Other than that I'm fine with the show.
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I plan on waiting twenty years or so until the whole series is on Netflix and I can just watch it all with my teacher friends during our lunch breaks. Nobody spoil anything for me.
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View PostSplee36, on 25 March 2012 - 05:08 PM, said:

The two episodes were in my opinion quite good. My main problem is the fact that there is really little to no explination to why Republic city started going downhill. All that I basically know is that some hell started to break loose after Aang's death, and then the benders started to believe that they're better than anyone else, as opposed to the firebenders in the original series believing that because of imperialism. Apparently the benders in the newer series just decided to become complete asshole. Sure we have benders like the metal benders, but they're just law enforcement. Rest is either guys that are on a pro-bending team or a complete jerk. Other than that I'm fine with the show.


I think that it's more like the benders started to exploit their powers for evil purposes, like the Triple Threat Triad in the first episode. They used their bending abilities to bully and assault the non-bending shopkeeper.
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Oh look, family trees released:

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I just watched the first episode of Avatar and it was boring shit. Does it get better?
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I'm going to assume that you're talking about The Last Airbender.

The Last Airbender does get better. I do agree that the first few episodes of it can be boring, though. Unfortunately, things don't really start picking up until the second season after Aang starts learning Earthbending. This is mostly due to poor planning as the creators didn't expect the show to be as popular as it was.

This post has been edited by Kaxbe: 27 March 2012 - 12:47 PM

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The first episode of The Last Airbender kind of felt like it was obviously aiming towards kids so it was a bit jarring and corny. I'd want to see more if I can convince Souppy to let me >8U
  • #21

The first two episodes of The Legend of Korra are pretty good.

When it comes to The Last Airbender I dont think it starts to get really good until the ending of Book One, when they make it to the northern water tribe.
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Can we skip to that bit, then?
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Probably not, Suitcase. You'll miss out on a good bit of important character and plot development. I suggest skipping to episode 12 and if you like that, watching everything up to that - and bar that, just episodes 7 and 8, which set up a huge, series-central plot point.

This post has been edited by Smash Genesis: 30 March 2012 - 05:43 PM

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I will try to do that
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I mean you could try to skip up to later. The first couple of episodes arent much plot development except when Aang goes to the Air temple. Then its just T.V. tropes and crap till the more serious parts.

EDIT: Its hard to say cause within all the boring episodes there are some with major plot points that you wont really understand later on unless you saw them.

This post has been edited by Leo-Inu: 30 March 2012 - 11:34 PM

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I loved the anti-bender guys' anon masks :D
And their leader is apparently called Amon... lol

This post has been edited by Phantaruz: 04 April 2012 - 01:59 PM

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So there was a new episode today. Your thoughts other than "Makorra is OTP"?

I loved it. This new series is so much darker and more complex than in "The Last Airbender". So many motherfucking shades of grey at work here. It's wonderful.

spoilers below:

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I agree with Kaxbe for the most part. My own thoughts are detailed below.

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I'm completely stoked for the next episode. And more instancesof Makorra, I think it's kinda cute.

This post has been edited by Smash Genesis: 22 April 2012 - 12:08 AM

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Good series. An opposite in many ways to its predecessor, to be sure.
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Actually, Lux, Amon is aware that the threatening of families, the underground gangs, etc. etc. will continue to happen. You'd have to be stupid to think that getting rid of bending would end all of that. What Amon is really saying is that in their universe benders are automatically in possession of power and privilege over non-benders. I mean, take a look at who holds the political power in the Avatar universe. It's all benders. Not really surprising that benders would also be policemen, landowners, celebrities, etc. Non-bnders don't really have much say politically there.

This post has been edited by Kaxbe: 22 April 2012 - 09:39 AM

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Makorra is adorable, not gonna lie. And Amon is a freaking badass.

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So far I am absolutely adoring this series, it's complex, edgey, drama packed but knows when to be light-hearted. The music is awesome and the animation seems much more fluid and sharper than the original series.
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@Kaxbe: Well, I guess. But, wouldn't a better solution just be to raise awareness to the benders? I mean, the fact that benders have a skill that non-benders do not puts them in an advantage in one way... But, that's sort of like a talent that someone has that some others don't. For example, I can code, and although I think that everyone can do it if they try, my dad (who's been a software engineer for about 35 years) says that some people just can't. If that's true, it just means I can code and they can't--that doesn't make me "superior" to them.

Granted, benders versus nonbenders is a drastic difference, but instead of assimilating them in an almost big brother fashion, both sides could just attempt to understand each other more... I think I'm just being a bit too idealistic.

@Shada: Actually, I predicted that because I figured there would be no other explanation... So that was the only option. What I still can't figure out is how. I mean, Amon says how he can do that to benders, but I'm almost 100% sure that not all of his story is truthful.
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@Lux: Hahahahaha, that's silly. Why would any person who benefits from a system that favors them, whether they're aware of it or not, admit that there is an unfairness in said system? I mean, you saw Korra's reaction to it in the first episode. "What? I'm not oppressing anyone! You... You're oppressing yourself!!!!"

Also, saw this.


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Smash, you're right. Amon might be only temporarily blocking the chi that allows bending to happen and that the trauma from not being able to bend is putting a mental block on their ability to bend.
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Okay, so episode four came out on Saturday! I actually kinda like the emerging love square, if not just because it's fun to describe. I mean seriously, How fun is it it to say "Bolin has a crush on Korra, who is obviously going to be paired up with Mako, who is dating Asami"?
I'm pretty curious to see how two possible romances with Korra will affect Bolin and Mako's brotherly dynamic.

On a side note, on my first viewing of the episode, I missed the scene with Korra dreaming of being assaulted by Chi Blockers and having her bending taken away by Amon. So, when I saw her refuse to join the anti-Equalist task force, I had actually kinda thought she was maturing. Shame it didn't turn out like that, but I feel that her run-in with Amon and her newfound sense of terror will help her grow up.

Also, I was talking with Kaxbe on the irc the other day, and he says he feels that there won't be a compromise like there would have been in Last Airbender. I'm inclined to think that he's right, but that would of course mean that bending will prevail, simply because if it didn't, that would kill the possiblity of more sequels, which in turn would lose Nick any money they could have made off of them. Therefore, if there indeed won't be a compromise like both Kaxbe and I believe, then the question becomes not "Will the Equalists or benders prevail?" but instead will be "How will the benders prevail?" I kind of hope I'm wrong, simply because I liked the idealistic spirit of TLA, even if energybending came off as a deus ex machina. Of course, it was meant to be foreshadowed, but it didn't work out the way the writers intended, so I'm hoping they'll learn from that and foreshadow the ending better this time.
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I actually didn't see the ending part that well because my parents walked in and started talking to me, but I think it was basically... Amon finding Korra on the island and scaring the hell out of her. Then she cried.

Anyway, I like Asami, but she's got to get out of the way of Korra and Mako.

Lastly, having a compromise would be far more difficult this time around, I agree. Given the nature of this show, I don't know if a compromise will happen either. But I'm tempted to believe that the compromise still can happen. Like... for example, if Korra learns how to energybend the avatar way (long way to go with that, spiritually), then it can become the duty of the avatar to simply remove bending from criminals who don't deserve the ability. If she took away the bending of LBZ, it would be a message to the Triple Threat Triads that she wouldn't brook any shit. If they kept going, she would take away their bending, too.

And that wouldn't be "living in fear," because she's basically acting like a police officer. And if she became a fully realized avatar in that sense, she would be deemed mature enough to determine whether or not a person deserved his or her bending--and she's not subject to corruption. It all stems from the idea that once she is strong enough to have that power, she is also mature enough not to misuse it.

Thus, by that, the benders and non-benders could co-exist. I do admit, though, that there is still an issue of the benders being seen as superior to non-benders... But I still want to side with the whole "it's a talent, just like one person can do something while another can't" idea. Just one hell of a talent.
  • #36

did anyone see today's episode yet? it was INCREDIBLE.
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View PostKaxbe, on 02 June 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

did anyone see today's episode yet? it was INCREDIBLE.

No, but I haven't been able to catch it all lately, since I keep waking up after it airs... Do you know of a channel to watch it at, other than Nick?
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nope, sorry. you might be able to find all the episodes on mastertoons.
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I have no channel that has it, so I watch it online Watch Avatar: The Legend of Korra Online

The most recent episode was pretty freaking awesome, and raises a number of questions.
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that one line from when Tarlok was rounding up "suspected Equalists"

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So, catching up... This series is HILARIOUS. Especially with the Korra x Mako things...

Episode 5: "I really like you and I think we were meant for each other!"

And then, even better...

Episode 8: "Asami, did you know Korra likes Mako?" KORRA'S FACE AT THE COMMENT OH MY GOD. xDDDDD

So, the most recent part I've seen is...

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This series just keeps getting darker. It's a shame, though... I can't see episode 9 until tomorrow, since that's apparently when the dub comes to the site...
  • #42

okay, i LIKE how the show is darker. the story and messages are way more complex than in Last Airbender
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So do I. If you thought when I said "It's a shame" was addressed to the show, it wasn't--it was to the fact that I can't see episode 9 yet.

But yes. It is pretty much superior to its predecessor in... every way.

I don't know if I can rightly compare the two, though, considering two things:

1. The extreme difference of their mood and focus...
2. ... and the fact that I'm pretty sure it was already stated that, at first, the creators didn't think anything would come of the first series, so they didn't try as hard. Hence why, at least to me, it seemed to get better as the series continued.

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my only complaint with the new series is how they're handling romantic and platonic relationships this time around. Korra's crush on Mako feels forced. the four of them coming together to form the new "Team Avatar" felt like the writers were trying to force some sort of bond between them. i don't like it. the character relationships in Last Airbender were well-thought out and realistic. compare how Toph joins Aang and his friends to how Asami joins Korra and her friends.
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It may be to less of the fault and the writers and more of the constraints of time. This series is going to be much shorter than The Last Airbender, yes? So, there's less time to build up these things. Not to mention it's a lot more action-oriented. So, they have less time to spend on development, in a sense.

Anyway, in a sense of irony... Korra's a teenager, and so is Mako. Teenagers have a reputation for being impulsive and irrational... which might explain the crush. They're kind of cute, the two of them, but really, Mako actually seems more fit for Asami.

I'm going to consider the new "Team Avatar" from a different perspective--they were likely doing that to cheer Korra up. So it is, in a sense, kind of forced, but by the characters themselves. I can't deny that some of it is a bit unrealistic, though.
  • #46

Cabbage Corp. is the single greatest injoke in the series.
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Is there somewhere I can watch all the epidsodes online? I've still only ever seen the first two.
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Watch Avatar: The Legend of Korra Online

Read up 8 posts, link is there as well
  • #49

Okay guys, new theory: All the firebending muggers (the ones who attacked Amon, Hiroshi's wife, and Mako and Bolin's family) are either a) the same person or b) descendants of Fire Nation soldiers who fought in the Hundred Year War and are still trying to assert Fire Nation dominance!


I have ZILCH in the way of evidence to back either of those theories up, but COME ON - tell me they wouldn't be cool?
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