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Chapter 71: Just Beautiful
- crystalgardian
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Don't worry masterchef, Taeshi shall find a way to bring David into the angst
- #801
- 11 August 2012 - 07:42 AM
- spikespiegel
- Member
I really feel bad by yashi
It is more a lie ideal that a painful truth
Yashi does not deserve this
- #803
- 13 August 2012 - 04:06 AM
spikespiegel, on 13 August 2012 - 04:06 AM, said:
I really feel bad by yashi
It is more a lie ideal that a painful truth
Yashi does not deserve this
OH GOD TAE
WHY TAE WHY
MY FEELS
THEY ARE HURTIIIING ;A;
- #804
- 13 August 2012 - 04:11 AM
UGH SOO SAD! I know I said she was annoying but dang how depressing DDDDD: man I had no idea I would get this upset over a comic U_U
- #805
- 13 August 2012 - 04:18 AM
She was going to say "She's just being a bitch" which is correct.
- #806
- 13 August 2012 - 04:25 AM
No! That's not true! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
I seriously thought Taeshi was gonna go for the Star Wars line. Speaking of which, Yashy's misery is wonderful. I have hated her since the beginning of the comic...
But in all seriousness, the truth came out in the worst way possible. It sucks.
I seriously thought Taeshi was gonna go for the Star Wars line. Speaking of which, Yashy's misery is wonderful. I have hated her since the beginning of the comic...
But in all seriousness, the truth came out in the worst way possible. It sucks.
This post has been edited by NintendoSegaSonyGuy: 13 August 2012 - 05:35 AM
- #809
- 13 August 2012 - 05:12 AM
- crystalgardian
- Member
Oooohhhh snap. Poor Yashi.
Now will she get over this or become inconsolable.
or what if she commited suicide. That would be a blow to Lucy... though its unlikely that will happen.
Now will she get over this or become inconsolable.
or what if she commited suicide. That would be a blow to Lucy... though its unlikely that will happen.
- #810
- 13 August 2012 - 06:48 AM
...and then Yashi killed herself, Lucy raged and killed Mike, and bcd ends.
- #811
- 13 August 2012 - 07:14 AM
- Giygas
- Stupid protesters should have just kept their dumb asses home. Stupid fuckers
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abowden, on 13 August 2012 - 07:14 AM, said:
...and then Yashi killed herself, Lucy raged and killed Mike, and bcd ends.
Why stop there? Maybe the entire town can go on an epic manhunt with Lucy as their prey!
This post has been edited by Giygas: 13 August 2012 - 07:37 AM
- #812
- 13 August 2012 - 07:37 AM
Man, Yashy is really devastated.
Also, the number of people who spell Yashy's name as 'Yashi' makes me wonder if I missed a running joke somewhere. Anyway, that's not the right spelling, so stop it already.
Also, the number of people who spell Yashy's name as 'Yashi' makes me wonder if I missed a running joke somewhere. Anyway, that's not the right spelling, so stop it already.
- #814
- 13 August 2012 - 03:51 PM
- crystalgardian
- Member
wacko, on 13 August 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:
Man, Yashy is really devastated.
Also, the number of people who spell Yashy's name as 'Yashi' makes me wonder if I missed a running joke somewhere. Anyway, that's not the right spelling, so stop it already.
Also, the number of people who spell Yashy's name as 'Yashi' makes me wonder if I missed a running joke somewhere. Anyway, that's not the right spelling, so stop it already.
yashy=yashi=yoshi
- #816
- 13 August 2012 - 08:23 PM
- Moosack
- Member
Nimbus26, on 13 August 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:
Wow, seeing Yashy crying over the harsh truth really hit her hard big time. 
The next time she confronts Mike, the situation will be anything but friendly.
The next time she confronts Mike, the situation will be anything but friendly.
I keep forgetting that the thing has a gender. I was thoroughly convinced that Yashy was an it. Kind of like furniture in the background.
- #817
- 13 August 2012 - 10:57 PM
It just occurred to me that if Yashy could get a measure of character development, then why not David?
No one's gonna stay the same in this comic, I don't think. Everyone will be affected in some manner.
No one's gonna stay the same in this comic, I don't think. Everyone will be affected in some manner.
- #818
- 14 August 2012 - 01:09 AM
- MintyFishbowl
- Member
At least Yeahshy's actually getting some development. Sure as Hell beats her/him/it being a one-trick pony/dinosaur.
- #821
- 14 August 2012 - 01:51 AM
- Leaving_a_Comment
- Member
Well hey Jerk like mother like daughter? Parent's behaviors are imprinted on their children I mean geez look at Abbey.
- #822
- 14 August 2012 - 02:34 AM
Leaving_a_Comment, on 14 August 2012 - 02:34 AM, said:
Well hey Jerk like mother like daughter? Parent's behaviors are imprinted on their children I mean geez look at Abbey.
Nope I don't works like that, temperanment (Different from personality) comes when the baby is born and you can say that temperament is a "mix" of both mother and father temperament, is several studies psychologists have agree in that there are 3 basic kinds of temperament; good, difficult and lethargic. To summarize Good are kids that show possitive responses of medium and low intensity during social stimulation, medium or low negative responses to harmful stimulation, a regular sleeping and eating horary, they are prone to make healthy attachment relationships (balanced with independency). In the other hand "difficult" temperament is the exact opposite... I don't need to explain more.
Temperament DON'T decides the development of each individual personality has enviroment, genes and individual cognitive self-appreciation (who do you think you are). Difficult and Lethargic temperament work has a "handicap" for people born with this kind of temperament, if their emotional intelligence is mature enough to deal with high emotiona stress they will probably live on things like Lucy romantic problems, but their temperament makes them way more "emotional" with this I mean that people with these kind of temperament, regardless of they personality feel "sadness" (for examples) way stronger than a person with "good" temperament.
TL;DR: Lucy has a "difficult" temperament that makes her more difficult to move on her problems but she does lack the emotional intelligence and determination to move on, Michael has a either a difficult or lethargic temperament which provokes really strong emotional responses to any stimulation.
- #823
- 14 August 2012 - 03:12 AM
- Leaving_a_Comment
- Member
You...completely missed what I was talking about, but points on getting basic temperaments down, though I personally was never really interested in that sort of stuff and was one of the reason I changed my degree focus from child psychology to more experimental things. So ya while your research is right, it's completely missing the point, and the joke.
Yashy is influence by Lucy's behavior regardless of what temperament either of them have, all people are affected by their environments, especially their parents though whether it is a positive or negative effect depends on the situation. Yashy is short-tempered and brutally honest, just like Lucy and while we can't be sure that's why she is also so "spunky", it has obviously had an effect on her. In the case of Abbey he too handles situations eerily like his father, but at the same time trying to be decidedly NOT like his father makes him such a vigilant against bullying. Of course since he does handle these situations radically and with violence makes him a total hypocrite but that's besides the point which is that they have been heavenly influence by their parents.
You're trying to argue nature vs. nurture with me and leaning a lot nature side and trying to exclude that children develop at least in part to how their guardians behave. It is simple intimation, something that someone as young as Yashy would obviously do to try and be like her mother. And it was a joke mostly at the expense of Abbey cause I know how much Jerk just LOVES him.
Yashy is influence by Lucy's behavior regardless of what temperament either of them have, all people are affected by their environments, especially their parents though whether it is a positive or negative effect depends on the situation. Yashy is short-tempered and brutally honest, just like Lucy and while we can't be sure that's why she is also so "spunky", it has obviously had an effect on her. In the case of Abbey he too handles situations eerily like his father, but at the same time trying to be decidedly NOT like his father makes him such a vigilant against bullying. Of course since he does handle these situations radically and with violence makes him a total hypocrite but that's besides the point which is that they have been heavenly influence by their parents.
You're trying to argue nature vs. nurture with me and leaning a lot nature side and trying to exclude that children develop at least in part to how their guardians behave. It is simple intimation, something that someone as young as Yashy would obviously do to try and be like her mother. And it was a joke mostly at the expense of Abbey cause I know how much Jerk just LOVES him.
- #824
- 14 August 2012 - 05:46 AM
- Flyboy1945
- Member
NintendoSegaSonyGuy, on 13 August 2012 - 05:12 AM, said:
No! That's not true! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
I seriously thought Taeshi was gonna go for the Star Wars line. Speaking of which, Yashy's misery is wonderful. I have hated her since the beginning of the comic...
But in all seriousness, the truth came out in the worst way possible. It sucks.
I seriously thought Taeshi was gonna go for the Star Wars line. Speaking of which, Yashy's misery is wonderful. I have hated her since the beginning of the comic...
But in all seriousness, the truth came out in the worst way possible. It sucks.
Way to go for the Star Wars reference.
On Topic: I think Yashy's world just collapsed on itself.
- #826
- 14 August 2012 - 12:01 PM
- MintyFishbowl
- Member
Malice, on 14 August 2012 - 06:39 AM, said:
Yashy feels kinda out of place with the comic right now as it stands.
When it comes to Yashy's usual personality, I would agree. However, it looks like she's in the midst of development, so it's best to see how it pans out.
- #827
- 14 August 2012 - 03:45 PM
- Jerk
- Member
I just can't like a humorless character with a stick up his asshole. He's just... static. Paulo changes, Mike changes, Lucy will presumably emerge from her cocoon of self-pity eventually. Besides, they're the important ones. The only interesting thing about Abbey is Molly.
- #830
- 14 August 2012 - 06:26 PM
If Abbey is static, then so am I.
- #831
- 14 August 2012 - 06:48 PM
- MintyFishbowl
- Member
Taeshi, on 14 August 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:
Well, there's a difference between not liking a character because of their personality being unappealing and disliking a character because the writer can't write effectively, etc!
You're acting as though the two are mutually exclusive.
- #835
- 14 August 2012 - 07:11 PM
- Taeshi
- one hot bitch
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Minty: Irrelevant.
Jerk: to be fairly frank a lot of the character development for some of the characters have made them more dull to me if anything, also yeah abbey has had little screen time compared to the others and thus would need more to "develop", which is kind of weird to say since in At Loose Ends he wasn't really throwing chairs or attacking people, he was as somber as Mike.
my issue with abbey honestly has always been that he's basically Mike with anger issues and more intelligent :U and i haven't used him enough to really sway him into anything else
And then you got complete character-turns like Paulo who used to be really fun, but it seems he's become more of a somber/worried/thoughtful person.. it's like all the guys are turning into Mike and Mike is delving more into being independent wow
Jerk: to be fairly frank a lot of the character development for some of the characters have made them more dull to me if anything, also yeah abbey has had little screen time compared to the others and thus would need more to "develop", which is kind of weird to say since in At Loose Ends he wasn't really throwing chairs or attacking people, he was as somber as Mike.
my issue with abbey honestly has always been that he's basically Mike with anger issues and more intelligent :U and i haven't used him enough to really sway him into anything else
And then you got complete character-turns like Paulo who used to be really fun, but it seems he's become more of a somber/worried/thoughtful person.. it's like all the guys are turning into Mike and Mike is delving more into being independent wow
- #836
- 14 August 2012 - 07:26 PM
- Taeshi
- one hot bitch
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Well, I don't mind it too much because at the end of the day Paulo still picks on Mike and Abbey and if Lucy was in better spirits/he was single, he would hit on her and be playful.
I just feel the hate for Abbey is fair enough if you think his hotheaded double-standards whiteknighting is terrible rather than "he's a faux deep character because wahh wahh parents", I mean what would make him deep? For him to get over his daddy issues? Then you just got.. a relatively normal kid because he's shown he's very Mike-ish when he's not having issues.
I just feel the hate for Abbey is fair enough if you think his hotheaded double-standards whiteknighting is terrible rather than "he's a faux deep character because wahh wahh parents", I mean what would make him deep? For him to get over his daddy issues? Then you just got.. a relatively normal kid because he's shown he's very Mike-ish when he's not having issues.
- #838
- 14 August 2012 - 07:41 PM
- SuitCase
- Administrator
I think Abbey's relationship with Daisy is potentially a very interesting thing to delve into. There's only so much time in the comic to cover all these issues, but I think there are a few more dimensions to Abbey's story that will come before it all ends.
- #839
- 14 August 2012 - 07:44 PM
Hasn't Taeshi described Abbey and Daisy's relationship as being "cute but boring"?
I think the most interesting possibility would be the conflict and angst that would result if Mike were to become single again, and Daisy were to choose to leave Abbey to pursue Mike. However, at this point Mike is still firmly with Sandy, so there's no reason for Daisy to go and do something like that just yet.
Alternatively, Daisy could grapple with her feelings and ultimately choose to give up her dreams of Mike and bond with Abbey instead. Certainly less drama there, but that'd still be character development for her, if not so much for Abbey.
I think the most interesting possibility would be the conflict and angst that would result if Mike were to become single again, and Daisy were to choose to leave Abbey to pursue Mike. However, at this point Mike is still firmly with Sandy, so there's no reason for Daisy to go and do something like that just yet.
Alternatively, Daisy could grapple with her feelings and ultimately choose to give up her dreams of Mike and bond with Abbey instead. Certainly less drama there, but that'd still be character development for her, if not so much for Abbey.
- #840
- 14 August 2012 - 08:15 PM
- Floweramon
- BCI Member
Well there's the fact that Abbey puts Daisy on a pedestal (and to an extent other women since he rarely if ever calls out women the way he does men, which could be another thing for Abbey to overcome), and for a relationship to work you need to treat your partner like an equal. I know Daisy has been shown to like attention, but if she were to gain more confidence in herself and eventually see that Abbey sees her more as a princess than a partner, then that could cause conflict in the relationship. I dunno, just a thought.
- #842
- 14 August 2012 - 10:24 PM
- Leaving_a_Comment
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I'm not 100% sure that Daisy wouldn't want to be treated like a princess thought, she has said before that she likes being doted on and for people to pay attention to her. Honestly I'm not sure she would even like Abbey to try and treat her an equal, I see them both as enjoying being a protector and the protectie. At least for them, I'm not saying all relationships are like this but there are honestly girls who like being put on a pedestal and treated with benefits for being a girl.
And I see that even if Abbey is a more hypocritcal Mike at least he is seeking help from a therapist and trying to be better, which at this point is a bit more than we can say for Lucy, she's getting there but not quite. Thought if she just woke up one day and was like "Welp I'm done being depressed gonna go get some self respect derp derp" that would be pretty annoying.
And I see that even if Abbey is a more hypocritcal Mike at least he is seeking help from a therapist and trying to be better, which at this point is a bit more than we can say for Lucy, she's getting there but not quite. Thought if she just woke up one day and was like "Welp I'm done being depressed gonna go get some self respect derp derp" that would be pretty annoying.
- #843
- 15 August 2012 - 12:25 AM
The Abbey and Daisy relationship is only interesting, in that it's been pretty clear that whatever flame Daisy holds for Mike still hasn't been put out yet. When he needs help or she sees him in a group (Halloween), or subconsciously like at the sleepover, she will still run to him regardless of her relationship status. Abbey seems to have noticed this a little but hasn't really said anything, due to bigger fish to fry ect.
That said currently I think the relationship works well for them *at the moment*, because Abbey needs someone to support him, and Daisy craves love and attention, and for that she is happy to give all that she can in return. They make each other happy and that's what matters, I think deep down Daisy isn't as in love with Abbey as she wants to believe, but they are both what each other need right now, so may as well enjoy it while it lasts!
As for Abbey generally, I don't dislike him, but it WOULD be nice to see Abbey be something other than moody or brooding, I recall quite early on he can have a certain level of respect and courtesy towards girls + heightened level of sense about situations going on. Though most of that persona seemed to fly out the window after the Daisy arc. I understand he's tied down to one girl now, but it would be interesting to see what he makes of the Lucy and Mike situation.
That said currently I think the relationship works well for them *at the moment*, because Abbey needs someone to support him, and Daisy craves love and attention, and for that she is happy to give all that she can in return. They make each other happy and that's what matters, I think deep down Daisy isn't as in love with Abbey as she wants to believe, but they are both what each other need right now, so may as well enjoy it while it lasts!
As for Abbey generally, I don't dislike him, but it WOULD be nice to see Abbey be something other than moody or brooding, I recall quite early on he can have a certain level of respect and courtesy towards girls + heightened level of sense about situations going on. Though most of that persona seemed to fly out the window after the Daisy arc. I understand he's tied down to one girl now, but it would be interesting to see what he makes of the Lucy and Mike situation.
This post has been edited by jennytablina: 15 August 2012 - 03:21 AM
- #844
- 15 August 2012 - 03:20 AM
I think it would be nice to see Abbey have a more light hearted side, but honestly he's not all that bad how much character development does he need? He just found out his mom died, he's going to therapy trying to rebuild his life, moving on with Daisy...The only thing that could show more sides of him is well time... and I'm pretty sure this is supposed to end during 11th grade or something so 
they don't have much of that. It would be nice if they went places other then with Tess's for the holidays, like the amusment park or even if they skipped school.
they don't have much of that. It would be nice if they went places other then with Tess's for the holidays, like the amusment park or even if they skipped school.
This post has been edited by Maxcine99: 15 August 2012 - 04:06 AM
- #845
- 15 August 2012 - 04:02 AM
- Jerk
- Member
Seriously: what part would Abbey play if not for Daisy? She's original cast, he and Molly are just kind of tangents to that core, though even Molly on her own can be a pretty interesting character, enough so even to be part of that inner circle. It feels to me the only reason even to bother keeping Abbey as part of the story (since Daisy could do MUCH better with three other guys than Abbey) is to keep Molly around specifically because she's a character worth keeping around.
- #847
- 15 August 2012 - 04:27 AM
- ChewySmokey
- BCI Member
oh well, the truth is a bitch. she'll maybe get over it.
- #848
- 15 August 2012 - 04:48 AM
- Splee36
- Member
I took a little while to think about this, but seeing Yashy like this, I just feel bad for her. Sure she's a jerk, but Jesus Christ man. To think the pets were going to be safe, but no. Nothing in this comic is safe from the wrath of Lucy and Mike's Über Angst.
- #849
- 15 August 2012 - 05:53 AM
- Moosack
- Member
Jerk, on 15 August 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:
Seriously: what part would Abbey play if not for Daisy? She's original cast, he and Molly are just kind of tangents to that core, though even Molly on her own can be a pretty interesting character, enough so even to be part of that inner circle.
You're going to have to run that Molly part with me again, because I'm not sure how she could be any bit relevant without Abbey (Justin, maybe?), who also really wouldn't validate his place without his relationship with Daisy or Augustus.
Also, just to point out, Abbey has seen more character development than Daisy recently. Daisy's static personality is a foil to Lucy's, which just makes her character even less interesting than Abbey's self-indulgent white-knight characterization.
- #850
- 15 August 2012 - 06:21 AM