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tekkadon, on 30 October 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

I can see how not wanting to talk to pepole or even avoding them would make someone seem werid. And yes I said something stupid

And so did the romantic story of Daisy getting rescued by Abbey come to its end. She could then have the attention she wanted, it just wasn't from the right guy. The end.

Jessica gets fed-up while Rachel nurtures on this love drama. Although, Jessica would not like to leave without letting know she thinks Lucy is cool.

tekkadon, on 30 October 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

Who knows, maybe Augustus could be a manipulative sociopath ready to stab his victim in the back when least expected? Actually, I do agrees people who are introverted/loners easily gets the stamp "weird" when being themselves. As for Augustus, I gets the impression he has no interest in having a broad array of friends, rather he focus on a deeper relation with a limited number of individuals. This is indicated by his interaction with Daisy comes to a really deep level, slipping out pieces of information on Alejandro's revenge. He's in fact a pretty sociable person in contrast to a certain emotionally disturbed (and likely extrovert) girl who bashed him for having no friends. Chit-chat is a nuisance to him, but upon a subject that appeals him, like Daisy, he will provide a detailed opinion on the matter. During recess he might very well prefer to makes his own personal space away from people, finding their trivia topics only to be exhausting and a waste of time. Why he approached Lucy in the first place is up to speculations, but it seems in the end he finds her behavior intrusive. He may normally have a fabricated act when around people, but even if he dropped it, he still could very well rather observe than to participate. Of course, just appearing out from nowhere targeting that single vulnerable girl isn't going to win him a good impression among the people.

Could that smirk of lucy's be for jess? Maby she made her happy whith her yak yak yak speech or the headache she gave her.

I'm sure Lucy's just amused that Jessica's getting a headache trying to figure out the tangled web of drama.

Speaking of Jessica's yakking, I know she's just embellishing and stuff, but is there a situation that fits her words? The closest I can think of is Paulo and any two of Lucy/Daisy/Tess.

I can't seem to enjoy reading the chapter much. It's like one of those anime episodes where they show some new scenes but mostly show clips from old episodes while the characters converse and do commentary. Also they're all just... gossiping.

That's a shame. I thought it was a cute one.

The tone shifts pretty soon.

Jessica and Rachel appear to be departing, so yes, shift of tone here. Now we get to see Lucy and her thoughts on Mike. She's sure frustrated, wanting to admit her love for him, yet Mike has been cool (if not downright chilly) to her since the summer vacation arc. Doubtless if Lucy were nicer to Mike, he'd be more receptive to her, but that's a lesson she'll have to learn later on in "December".

Oh Lucy, you should have heeded Zachary's words. Did you really have to wait for Augustus to give you another dose of honesty? Yet such is the way of things: people are slow to accept things they don't want to hear.

Looks like someone's going to start cutting.

Lucy has once again won the prize for Understatement of the Year. According to the general fandom anyways.

Lucy's perspective on her early childhood is fairly simplistic: Mike is an idiot. Although, I can assume she considered him a friend all along, as it was something she acknowledged in the 1st or 2nd grade. I gets the feeling that even in her mind she stays in denial. As the 14 years old Lucy thinks of her past, the thought persists on that Mike was only a mere annoyance and that his absence from kindergarten wasn't bothering her at all. In reality this conflicts with her feelings as it was demonstrated when she tried to just "forget" him.

In the long run might Lucy have saved herself (and her partner) from involving in a relationship based on dependency. The message she got in "December" was far from pleasant, but considering the possible events that lies ahead of her, she might even learn to ultimately stand on her own feet. There is certainly a fantastic girl that lies beneath that shell.

What a bitch.

Ace, on 05 November 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

Rachel in a nutshell.

Little Micheal wearing a hat is seriously one of the cutest things I've ever seen. Too bad Lucy shoved him and it fell off, never to be seen again.

On a more serious note, it's kind of enlightening to see that Mike didn't start with enjoying being around Lucy (he looks damn uncomfortable), and he just learned to like her (and eventually LIKE like her). Somehow his recent behavior does make some more sense to me now, knowing that there's that slight bitterness that's been in his heart since the beginning.

Lucy says Mike was an idiot, when really he tried to be nice to her. She didn't have to compete with him just to prove she was better than him.

And yeah, denial of her feelings isn't helping her either. She's the type who says she doesn't care, when really she does. In fact, the first thing she did in kindergarten was look for Mike.

It's stuff like that that makes me think that Lucy remembers all the events differently.

Has she always been this much of a cunt or have I been away too long?

Has mike forgot that he was lucy's first and best friend? He can be just as careless as lucy.

I'm certain Mike would not just simply forget he was her first and best friend, it's just that Mike is kinda having a bad day. So does Lucy and that causes friction between them. But as we knows, this misunderstanding will get resolved when Lucy confesses her love to Mike. Although, that "joy" will be short-lived as Lucy on the next day ostensibly tries to abolish Mike's current relationship in her own favor.

On the upcoming page, I will not be surprised if Mike tells Lucy to leave him alone because of how she treated him in preschool. Typically will Lucy not accept a rejection and push him into a relationship the way she wants it. Mike the pushover will get sucked into this, but at least their competitive nature forms a basic compatibility.

Lucy don't know why she followed him, just like she don't know why she went back for him after he nearly drowned. Asides from depending on him for happiness, there was truly something more to be revealed the day Mike learned he was her friend. I can imagine Mike's opportunity to see past Lucy's façade made him see something else within her, something being her true self. Asides from being pretty, it is understandable how Mike later grew a boner for this concealed personality.

I gets a feeling Lucy felt at first that Mike didn't want to be with her, so she simply harassed him for company. But later when when Mike reciprocated Lucy's inquire of friendship, her feelings toward him would improve. Her issues in expressing her emotions would still remain though. At least it seems she wasn't as violent back then, as it was a trait she acquired in middle school.

Nevertheless, there got to be a Sandy in the equation soon enough.

Jerk, on 06 November 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

Perhaps not always but that's mostly because it takes time to develop people's crazy to us readers.

He was so nice and not mean like the other boyes so she just stuck whith him. He was too nice to tell her off wen they were little so in a way this is all mike's fault

This post has been edited by bluefox: 07 November 2012 - 04:58 PM

Are you kidding me? "All Mike's fault"? I'm going to assume you're stupid, not trolling (although the two aren't mutually exclusive). Mike did very little to lead her on. When she confessed to him, he told her no. If he said anything before that, there was always the chance of jumping the gun--so he shouldn't just have said "I know you have feelings for me, but I don't feel the same." Plus, maybe back then he was genuinely nice enough that he wanted to, at the very least, deal with her. Plus, if he left her behind at that point, she would very likely have no friends. To him, maybe he just wanted to be someone to hang on with.

Don't get me wrong, Mike's an asshole now, but he used to be nice, and was trying to do the right thing, Blaming him for Lucy's troubles is like blaming a person for getting punched in the face because their head "happened to be there."

Lux Aeterna, on 07 November 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

He crushed her selfesteem. She was a outkast in preschool then her best freind was like im going to pay no attention to you and hang out whith this other individual that looks a lot like you but is apparently evrey thing you are not. And im not blaming mike for lucy's troubles im blaming him for lucy's lack of selfesteem and trust. Also your rude comment falles on def eares and is met whith a

bluefox, on 08 November 2012 - 02:07 AM, said:

uh...what

Mike is not 'responsible' for Lucy. Every person is their own person. At that age, the people who are 'responsible' for another person are the parents.

The issue is (for Lucy) the one person she wanted to accept closer than friends was not interested in that kind of relationship, because he already had somebody else in that exclusive role (Sandy). It didn't even occur to Mike until he was much older.

She's bitter because she was denied a chance to compete for him, so she competed AGAINST him. And now that's gone too.

Purin, on 08 November 2012 - 02:09 AM, said:

Lucy has more troubles then just those but the selfesteem and trust were mikes fault. I was joking wen I said it was all mikes fault because obviously it was both there faults. I feel bad for lucy more because she is more hurt whith her feelings and mike just goes on like it never happened.

If Mike hadn't interacted with Lucy in the first place, the continued social isolation could have made her self-esteem and trust issues even worse. Yet, It's not like Mike didn't tell her to back off. Mike actually went so far that he yelled at her, but Lucy didn't comply and kept pushing him. In the 3rd grade, Sandy did unintentionally take Mike's attention away from Lucy, but at least Mike took learning from this. Lucy on the other hand didn't learn the value of earning his attention, as opposed to forcing it.

Mike might seemingly attained a flimsy harshness toward Lucy, but in his context it is understandable. After all, he got feelings, too.

3rd grade was indeed a sad time for Lucy. When Mike focused his attention on Sandy, she took this as getting ignored. Mike didn't genuinely ignore Lucy though, he was truly oblivious of how Lucy felt when she didn't get his attention. However, Sandy did notice Lucy was always around them and did invite her for games, but she didn't realize why Lucy wasn't really able to participate. But how could Mike and Sandy have known? They assumed Lucy meant it when she claimed to be fine with it.

The egg that Yashy hatched from was a consolation for her, but it truly wasn't a replacement. Even if Lucy is too worried in truly trusting her feeling to anyone but her pets, she was really unfair to Mike who more than deserved that respect.

Ironically is Lucy right about she don't need Mike, it's merely a false belief. Just that denial is the wrong way to fight her dependency. But perhaps one day she can learn to be less needin' and more lovin'.

Viking, on 08 November 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

As true and sad as this is that dont mean I have to like it . Ther relationship goes beyond sad and falls into the pit of despair.

Viking, on 09 November 2012 - 05:35 PM, said:

The world would be a better place and I look forwored to it .

Oh, sweet sweet denial, Lucy.

Also, Viking is a good vacation replacement for me.

Because when the man doesn't figure out your subtle hints (your a jerk, you suck, go away) it means he's an idiot.

Anialator, on 12 November 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Of corse. Thats how it works whith lucy.

Anialator, on 12 November 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

aaaaaaa
Mike, don't cry

Anialator, on 12 November 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Notice that the girl who is actually more pleasant to be around won over septic cuntrag.

Except in extremely retarded cases, this is how life generally works.

Surprise, surprise: most people don't want to be around someone who acts like a cunt.

Jerk is the weirdest MikexLucy shipper

I know, right?

Mike×Lucy, the ancient and long misconducted art of shipping. To properly utilize it, one requires a great amplitude of wisdom and a very disciplined mind. If these demands are proven inadequate, the user will fall into the fallacy of believing it's normal to perform domestic abuse on a submissive partner. It corrupts the concept of love into emotional hunger and suppresses any genuine affection. The possessive nature is shielded by a strong denial as it leads the person into a vile obsession.

Even if the denial would break, the victim is still beyond salvation as it will transform its perverted demeanor into the shape of a Paulo×Lucy shipper.

Serving as a holy paladin in the Order of the Primal Bluescarf, It's my sacred quest to purge the ship of this malicious force and purify its essence. Lucy shall be thrown into the purgatory and remain sealed until all of her avarice has been cleansed. It will take over a thousand of years for her to be redeemed, but as according to our prophecy shall Lucy and Mike reconcile in an act of true love.

At least that used to be my cause until I got converted into a Mike×Paulo shipper. I totally wants the awesomeness of Lucy to notice Mike and Paulo making out. It would be even better than watching Lucy×Sandy making out in front of Mike.

Lucy, you couldn't even give Mike a consoling hug when he was all in tears over Sandy's departure?

I certainly can't say that I'm a Mike×Lucy shipper, since Lucy rarely ever treated Mike right. Yet in the end, I feel that one of the endings of BCB will be Mike×Lucy. There is still time enough for Lucy to learn from her mistakes and change her behaviour, although she may well still be better off paired with someone else with whom she has less history and more chemistry (such as Paulo).

I'm not sure what the intended reading of the second panel is. Is it "Luck(ily) I was there to pick up the pieces" or "(You were) lucky I was there to pick up the pieces"?

I'm still sticking with;
1)Mike and Sandy break up due to complications, which is a shame since I guess I ship that.
2)Lucy chills the fuck out and then her and Mike become platonic friends.

I'm not sure I'd be able to offer a consoling hug knowing that he is already trying to see her in me.

Funny enough, it's because of Mike helping Sandy improving her grades that she had to leave. Although, it maybe didn't really change anything in case there would still be a suitable school for her in Rickter.

I would expect Lucy to console him (albeit in a shy manner) if she just could embrace the fact she likes him and stops suppress her feelings for him with irritation. She sure got upset on Mike picturing her in Sandy's image, but as he pursued Lucy, he proved to care more for her than just as a replacement.

Lucy's sure has some behavior issues, but her habit to form an emotional dependency on people is very unhealthy. If Lucy actually knew that her abusive act on Mike teared his feelings toward her, she would stop. The idea of Mike loves her and would never leave is what sustains her sanity. It was demonstrated she also formed an emotional dependency on Paulo after "Another Shoulder". This resulted in she was content with feeling he cared for her, but she got pissed on Paulo because of him consenting girls who propositioned him. The height was when she went hysterical upon finding out he had nailed two girls, assuming she was only trifled by him because of his "rejection".

Relying one's mood based on what another person thinks of you is a really bad thing. Lucy got to drop that mindset and start to get herself some confidence. She got one and a half year left to pull her weight for a better ending, or else she'll deserve to be thrown into the dungeon of crud and sludge.





At least she was ready to save him or die trying. She is quite a fanatic.

Is this Lucy suggesting she would rather have him drown than him date another girl? Watabitch.

She didn't have to do it, yet she did.





Lucy does think Mike was stupid to agree to race with Paulo, who was regarded as the best climber of the group. Still, she couldn't even admit that she was crying because she cared about him.

She's thirsty.

In this version of Lucy's memories, she believed to be Jesus and tried to walk on the water. In "Troubled Waters" she recalled to instead have taken a dive into the pond.

Thinking of Lucy having the opportunity to change one thing in her past, I'm not certain undoing this event would be the optimal decision. The accident in Acapulco could have turned out quite different, preventing Zachary from convincing Lucy on what was facing her.

Viking, on 14 November 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

I wonder what sandy whould say about this?

She'd probably change her mind about Lucy. She comes across as a somewhat rational girl, not prone to petty jealousy. And we've seen the only reason she "dislikes" Lucy is that she only hears of her from a very biased Mike.

I agree with Brussel Sprouts, but Sandy's character is rather hard to decifer. She could be some normal regular girl who is just very caring for her boyfriend, but I'm still holding on to the chance that there's something more to her. Some plot twist in all this, and unless she gets more screen time and more character development, and canon proof as to her notions and emotions and reactions I won't assume anything about Sandy or her actions.

This post has been edited by lt_amazil: 15 November 2012 - 11:20 PM

BrusselSprouts said:

Biased? If anything, Mike was understating the things Lucy was doing to him. Recall that it was Sandy who made him realize that Lucy wasn't treating him the way a friend should.

I don't know what Sandy would say about Lucy trying to save Mike. Maybe she would say it was rather dumb of Lucy to do that, since Lucy couldn't swim. And that statement might still hold true even if Sandy were aware that Lucy had feelings for Mike. After all, Lucy could have simply asked Paulo to save Mike, instead of potentially dooming both herself and Mike.

I sides with wacko on this matter. Sandy inspired Mike to give some considerations over his friendship with Lucy, not to outrightly dislike her.

There is certainly reasons that doesn't involves Sandy's opinions. Lucy did the day after her confession give the impression of she was trying to wreck Mike's relationship with Sandy in an effort to regain him for herself. After a time had passed, she didn't express too much friendliness either. When Lucy later revealed her night with Paulo, did Mike not only take it as she had faked her love in order to maintain her dependency on him, but also proven she can simply switch her bound to the next most susceptible candidate. The last push was to hear Abbey's speech on bullying, effectively making Mike establish this idea on Lucy. On top of that, he mistakes Augustus for Lucy's new rebound.

Judging in Mike's point of view, it's enough crap as it is to waste anymore effort with her. He would certainly not feel bad for her if she can simply get herself a replacement in case the previous person turns out unavailable.

I am neither sure of how Sandy would judge Lucy's effort in trying to save Mike. Perhaps could wacko be correct about Sandy would have a more practical standpoint in the matter. She might have gotten impressed by Lucy's dedication. Although, she would regardless never find Lucy's typical attitude toward Mike or anyone else acceptable.