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Gotta love Paulo going on about Mike. There's so much macho-sexual tension, there.

A parade of FOUR FUCKING GIRLS following Mike. Wow.

This page is basically my entire school life in general.
I have a lot of girls interested in me while I'm not interested in them at all.

Don't worry. Like Mike, a Paulo will find his way into your life and complete you.

This post has been edited by Purin: 08 October 2012 - 11:28 PM

Purin, on 08 October 2012 - 11:27 PM, said:

It's funny because I'm bisexual.
huehuehuehuehuehuehue

Yeah, shouldn't Daisy be in class? Seeing as she was such in a haste to leave when the bell rang. Or is this set later in the day and not right after lunch?

Sue and Amaya both fancy Mike, and Stacy sent him a love note way back in "Puppy Love". She admires those luminous emerald eyes just as much as Paulo does.


KiraDood5: join the club. Seriously, for some reason BCB attracts a lot of bisexuals (among other groups).

Kira looks at Housepets furry porn

The last page almost certainly happens at the next break.
Unless that Daisy is a clone, also part of the alien conspiracy... oh, yes, yeees...
everything would make so much sense! ...

Hey, the background character everyone faps to is in the bottom panel. I guess even she is smitten with Mike.

Moved a post about BCI to the proper thread here.

Disregard post.

This post has been edited by Radial: 09 October 2012 - 07:17 PM

wacko, on 09 October 2012 - 01:59 AM, said:

I knew about Amaya and Stacy, but Sue as well? When did this happen? :O

This post has been edited by Ellie: 09 October 2012 - 10:32 PM

Sue has always sorta fancied Mike, but her respect for Lucy and her feelings and the fact that Sue is not one to get in the middle of drama kinda stops her from really fawning over him.

Sue's face looks like she's really into mike for some reason on this page.

Might be.. or might not

I sees that a nervous Stacy is prone to use the word "like" in similar fashion as her best friend.

Since the time Paulo heard of Mike's relationship with some unknown girl (Sandy), he started to refer to her as a ball-n-chain. Funny enough, I honestly finds that concept in a way to match better with how Mike's relation with Lucy has been.

However, could Paulo actually have not believed in Mike's girlfriend's existence in the first place and solely used it as an excuse to satisfy his own ego? I'm anticipated in seeing how the next page will turn out. Rachel and Jessica being bully victims themselves in the past could catch a strong sympathy for Mike depending on how this will turns out. Exciting!

Cavara said:

If Mike weren't already taken and didn't have girls swarming around him, then a relationship with Sue would indeed be drama-free. However, Sue is well aware there are already other girls interested in/involved with Mike, and she's smart enough to stay out of the drama that would result if she got closer to Mike. She is good friends with him though.

Viking said:

I don't think Paulo truly believed Mike had a girlfriend until Mike showed him the picture of Sandy in "Unrequited" (which is about one chapter ahead of the current point in time).

Thats why sue's the smart one. She stays clear of drama and her crush on macain is a good call seing as how no one seemes to notice him.

Ahaha Paulo's flashback face is pretty great though Rachel and Jess's reactions are golden.

Wacko I don't get what's going on with the whole cheater thing can you explain it to me.

Paulo is referring to chapter 20, "A Difficult Choice". In that chapter, Lucy revealed to the others that Mike was attached to Sandy, though Mike didn't yet consider her a girlfriend. Paulo thought it wasn't fair that Mike could ostensibly go after Lucy while with a long-distance girlfriend, so he essentially formed the Cheater Squad to get his revenge.

Yup, Paulo was immature in ninth grade, and is still so even here at the beginning of tenth grade. In the chapters since then though, he's done a lot of maturing.

Thanks pal you're a real help.

Honor English sure is stressful, eh Mike? It's understandable one reason for his tartness toward Lucy came from earlier that day, tampering his performance. Right now he probably mistakes Lucy for selfishly disregarding the importance of his essay, being a rather urgent matter for him. He takes the school subject he's better at seriously after all.

As for Lucy, I'm pretty certain she just meant it more as an observation and to show him regards. She appears to be frustrated, unable to figure out why he's being upset toward her, oblivious of she's in a way being the reason. It would also not be surprising she's partly genuinely concerned for him, being not her first time to react to him being moody.

In panel 7, I sees that they kinda shrunk into chibi mode. Cute!

wacko watch out Viking is trying to usurp you.

Daisys tail looks as big as lucys tail in the 7th panel. Isn't it spose to be thiner?

bluefox: Daisy's tail is pretty curly and fluffy.

Seppucrow: The more that join the party, the merrier. After all, why should I always get all the glory?

The essay Mike refers to is the same one Daisy mentions on this page. I suppose earlier in the day Mike had offered to help Lucy with her poster, but then he went into Honours English and found he had the same sadistic teacher as the previous year. Hence his plans changed, since he now has an essay due the next day (just like the previous year).

Abbey is also in Honours English, as he was the previous year. This does reinforce a point of potential confusion which I first noticed when I was proofreading for Volume 2: on the last two panels of this page, it would be easy to read David's comments as indicating "everyone but Mike", when really it's "everyone but Mike, Daisy and Abbey" (because the latter three are all in Honours English). Guess Abbey just isn't cool enough for David.

Man, if that's how Paulo reacts just because he brushed her off, what'll happen if he finds out about the events that transpired during December?

Talk about a one-two punch, the guy you're jealous of treating the girl you've got feelings for like that.

I understand how Paulo feels all too well, even though he doesn't understand Mike's growing resentment toward Lucy.

[Edit] Removed page. Giygas was a bit quicker than me at posting.

Originally, Mike would be very defensive of the way Lucy acts. A flashback taking place in the freshman year, somewhere between "Wardrobe Malfunction" and "Left Behind" (noting on that Mike didn't wears his scarf during this period) he would demonstrate to his recently committed girlfriend his willingness to even justify one of Lucy's most gruesome example of abuse. However, with time that opinion would start to gradually decline, inspiring him to stand up for himself for his well-being's sake. At some point he would start to reflect his discontent to his friends of Lucy's behavior.

Based on that information, it's assumed Paulo would take those complains as Mike is having some delinquency against Lucy. Being typically concerned for her, he must have seen what just happened as Mike giving Lucy a cold-shouldered neglection. I can see how Paulo has developed the idea of how Mike is being the sole antagonist behind Lucy's mood.

Lucy knowing what happened before when she explained to him how it was out-rightly her fault, had Paulo's bias remaining unreasoned and proceeded to assume revenge on Mike. Understandably it's for the best to just shut him up whenever he's trying to interfere. Last thing Lucy needs is some aggressor against Mike in her name, it's likely to spell serious consequences for the relationship with her love interest. Also she would probably prefer to not risk getting Mike hurt.

Seppucrow&wacko: Aye! There is enough glory for the all of us.

Vigtyr: I could imagine he would do a rage-train after Mike, being fixated on the thought to retaliate. Outcome would of course depend on if Lucy is there to stop him before it's too late.

This post has been edited by Viking: 15 October 2012 - 01:53 PM

Yeah look at that Rachel, don't you wanna get involved in THAT drama? (Spoiler alert, she does).

So lucy came in on you to making out one time thats not werid.

The "weird shit" would actually be Paulo's feelings towards Daisy, even if he's not yet ready to admit it to anyone other than his best friend.

Viking is essentially correct in his assessment. Paulo's ready to white-knight for Lucy, but she stops him. We also saw the same thing a few chapters earlier. Paulo always has Lucy's back, but he doesn't know the full story of why Mike is growing colder towards her. On the other hand, Lucy is quite aware that her own dependency on Mike is the reason Mike's mad at her, and so she asks Paulo to lay off him. And Paulo does for now, although he continues to bear a grudge towards Mike.

WOAH WOAH WOAH
What is up with all this blue? I swear that wasn't there before.

Was Lucy abusing Paulo when she mashed the locker with his face?

Well, now that you mention it... yes, most probably. Though that's nothing new, Lucy's kicked Paulo's butt plenty of times before. She's even punched Abbey in the face a couple of times (no doubt among Jerk's favourite BCB moments). Recall that this is still over three months before "December", when Mike told her why she wasn't such a good friend.

Dr. Klaus: I expect it's just some blue shading being added to the pages of this chapter. After all, it will appear in Volume Two, which will be in colour.

Just teasing.. I mean, so many people think her abusing on Michael was "serious stuff" but don't even notice how Paulo copes with it with no problems in the same way as Michael did. Maybe I am just biased by being used to "conjures gigantic hammer out of thin air and smashes the jerk" scenes in anime and cartoons (I think Bugs Bunny was the first to do something like that), but honestly I still can't take her violence seriously when everyone around her is just ok with it.

Unlike for Mike who has Lucy clinging to him, it's fully on Paulo's own initiative to interact with her. Maybe he's fond of masochism? He likes stubborn girls, it's just that he's only trying to enjoy the time with his crush as much as possible, tolerating the resulting violence. After all, he's under the assumption Mike×Lucy will happen and that's for her own best.

Mike is typically a peaceful guy that assumes to understand other's behaviors to be "just their way". Heck, even when Abbey criticizes Paulo, Mike would still shield him. This is despite the fact Paulo really is being often rude to him and his friends. He even assembled the Cheater Squad to get him kicked into a bloody mess and damaged his reputation (though, ironically being in Mike's favor). Mike still sees Paulo as a friend and appreciates his better qualities, seeing them as enough to be content with him.

Being like this, Mike assumed the same thing with Lucy. He accepts his role to be a confident and supportive friend to keep her feel secured. Of course, Mike pays a lot of attention to his closest, observing Lucy's potential. He monitors her performance showing delight to improvements, while also willing to take a dive to boost her confidence. He attempts to encourage her more open and caring side, while dejecting anti-social behaviors. One can say that he's in a way trying to help her to counter her dependency issues by becoming more open and social. Though, it's speculative how high expectations Mike might actually had for Lucy as those was destined to die off since the freshman year, resulting in he's giving up the case.

My point is that I finds Lucy's violence toward Paulo more justified because he's aware of the risk and in a way is actually asking for it by repeatably hitting on her. Mike, who has really been a kind and concerned person toward her, gets him to do the heavy lifting to maintain the friendship he didn't even originally asked for. I'm certain the earlier slap-stick themed chapters doesn't do justice to the true nature of the matter.

Cavara, on 15 October 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

Let me slam your face into a locker. Don't worry, I'll do it playfully.

People have this acceptance of the tsundere stereotype that makes them retarded to this kind of behavior. There's patience and then there's being a doormat. Mike stops being the latter and runs out of the former, as it is entirely his right to do so. If you don't like the way he finally snaps responding to her attitude, you are an idiot who romanticizes abuse and you're free to go fuck yourself.

It's true that Paulo practically invites beatings by hitting on Lucy. After all, Lucy thinks that other people are only nice to her because of ulterior motives. Which still doesn't invalidate Mike's point (made during the flashbacks in "December") that Lucy is overly prone to being violent. After all, she twice punched Abbey for just laying a hand on her. Not exactly the best way of making or keeping friends there.

It's really too bad that everyone basically rejected Lucy in preschool and kindergarten (just because she liked to do guy things!), so that she'd later respond in kind by rejecting everyone (except for Mike, and she was still way too rough with him).

This post has been edited by wacko: 16 October 2012 - 04:13 PM

Oh BOO HOO. "I WAS LONELY IN KINDERGARTEN SO NOW I BEAT UP MY FRIENDS TO COMPENSATE!" I get that it hurt, but grow the fuck up already. I know high school is an emotional time and all, but if you're still coming to terms with shit that happened to you in kindergarten at fifteen, or using that as some kind of subconscious rationalization, you have much bigger problems than intimacy issues.

Dear Lucy: Get the fuck over it.

It applies to so many things, it's like a Swiss Army aphorism when applied to her.

Lucy's habit to rough play with Mike originates from their very first encounter, probably overdoing her boyish play style in an act so Mike would not see her like a typical girl and leave. Clearly is Mike the one suffering from this. Despite observing from a distance, she clearly didn't take learning from the 3rd grade that Mike didn't leave Sandy when she played nice with him. Guess Lucy's way of playing with Mike is for granted.

It wasn't until Zachary had his talk with her that she got to learn that her abusive behavior had actually caused consequences to her relationship with Mike. Upon being convinced, it seems like she even had to start question her own denial before giving up and realizing this very obvious threat. Of course, she would still pick a fight with Mike just to get the boy himself snapping at her acting. I can be assumed she remained under reasonable control the rest of that summer. The first day of school upon meeting Mike, one can see the habit remains, but atleast she quickly suppressed it. Being that the damage is already done, it's of course not going to redeem herself.

A factor I thinks that really could have made a difference in the past would been if the preschool staff was actually competent at their job and noticed how Lucy treated Mike so they could intervene and tell her to play nice with him. In fact, they could have worked on getting Lucy accepted among the boys. Still, I fully agrees that her past has absolutely no justification to be violent to other later in her life, she must take consequence for her actions like anybody else.

Jerk, on 16 October 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

In the BCB universe things look like you could slam it with all your might and blow away the locker and the school wall with it, and I'd just stand up with a shortlasting nosebleed at most.
I wonder why Tessa didn't wear a cast at Acapulco after Lucy broke her arm when she invited her.

Cavara, on 16 October 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

Easier than I thought

In the past it was more likely to work like that but even gag abuse like that has crossed over into having real consequences as Mike's attitude has demonstrated.

I always wondered what happened between Paulo and Tess. They practically went through hell together, yet she refused to be with him. In fact, it seems like she really stopped hanging out with the cast after Acapulco. I hope here is where we'll get an explanation...

Of my understanding is that both of them was in love with each other and still has feelings. Tess just didn't want to commit because of the belief they wasn't ready for a relationship yet. She uses an argument she'll be graduating next year, but then it's not like she would be leaving the town. They could still hang out, unlike how it's for Mike and Sandy who still puts up with their relationship. Maybe Tess secretly got STD and don't want to tell Paulo? Heh, she was cool with him stopping after all.

Tess do indeed hangs out less since Acapulco, seen from times being with them at the table. Possibly she has started to put more focus on her school subjects and that hostility toward her has faded to a degree she doesn't need to "use" her friends as a get away.

Wait, why is Paulo taller than Tess when they're kissing?

Hasn't she got a good foot over him?

Vigtyr, on 17 October 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

she was weak in the knees. it's romance, kinda, dammit!

Awwwwww rachel fills bad for paulo because he's not giting any you no what. And jess just dont care to here any thing about it she can hold a very mean grudge.

Paulo and Tess have both been through a lot together. They were great together, this is one relationship that perhaps should've stuck. Never mind that Tess is more than two years older; age differences don't matter so much as you get older. Of course, there is the slight problem of Tess being a fan character...

I still think the "weird shit" Paulo alluded to last page is his hidden feelings for Daisy.

Viking said:

Tess plans to go to college, so she might leave town for that.

Vigtyr said:

Paulo is the same height as Jessica. Tess is also about as tall as Jessica. So they're actually both around the same height. You can see it when Paulo and Tess are posing for pictures.

If Paulo is getting nuts because of his future girlfriend Jasmine's unavailability, it could be actually for the better he didn't stick with Tess. I'm not sure if Paulo could have the same patience in waging a long-distance relationship like Mike. It would be quite a difference to see Paulo spending time at home with a phone. Who knows if David in the end did Paulo a favor in finding "the one"?

Also, you gotta love Rachel's ability to ask Paulo awkward questions.

And that's why High School dramas make the best TV shows.