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So, I've been thinking: we did this pretty cool thing a couple years back that I thought was a pretty good idea, and I was proud to be part of it. In the coming weeks, if you're an American of voting age, you'll be heading to the polls and coming back with the sticker proof that you did your part as an Americunt Amerikkkan American.

Remember: there is no wrong answer...but you WILL be mocked and ostracized if you don't cop to voting for Obama. At best, if you're lucky.

I'll try to talk to Suit sometime and see if we can't do another kind of contest like we did last time.

In the meantime, submit pictures of proof that you voted. Just the sticker is alright.

Too bad it's not a direct election, or I would give a shit about voting.

I'm Canadian. Can I forge the sticker?

Although I will be voting in municipal elections in a week or so.

I'm not voting.

Guess it sucks to be a non-American. Voted in both Provincial and Federal elections here in Quebec, fat lot of good it did, at both levels the worst possible candidates got elected.

I'll vote for Obama in spirit.

wacko, on 18 October 2012 - 02:40 AM, said:

I'M VOTIN' FOR THE GUY WHO HAS GREEN FOR HIS COLOUR BECAUSE THAT MEANS HE'S A RIDER'S FAN! WOOOOOOO!
actually, I don't know a damn thing about any of the candidates, but you just know that people will vote for him just because of that.

This post has been edited by ChewySmokey: 18 October 2012 - 04:49 AM

MiwAuturu, on 18 October 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

Dude, we have a bullshit corporate funded bipartisanship that wont allow any outside parties or views, candidates that waste millions of dollars on selling themselves, and an electoral college that doesn't actually have to elect who their citizens voted for.

It sucks to be pretty much anyone. I think the only legit, no bullshit governments I've seen so far are Iceland's, Sweden's, and Switzerland's.

This post has been edited by CaptainBaconMan: 18 October 2012 - 04:54 AM

Even if you don't like either candidate, vote for Obama so we don't have a Mormon fuckwit soiling his magic underpants in the Oval Office.

But seriously: vote anyway. If you don't, you're kind of a moron even if the selection is shit.

Jerk, on 18 October 2012 - 06:55 AM, said:

By all means, explain. So far, I've not talked to anyone who has been able to successfully explain why this is the case.

Intelligent people voting for the better of 2 crappy candidates is preferable than giving the power of all counted votes to those who can't count higher than the fingers on their hands

It's weak candidate versus actively terrible candidate. If that's not an obvious choice to you, sorry, but you're a fucking idiot.

Meowth, on 18 October 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

Well it DOES require a tiny bit of effort from your side to understand, but here's the spoils:
Romney is a homophobic mormon who's circle jerking with all kinds of business owners and strongly religious people.

Obama is just meh.

Which one do you NOT want in the big house?

Alright, that's all good and fine when you consider Romney vs Obama (though, I would still feel a bit skeptical in voting since I don't keep up with politics and wouldn't know what I was voting for beyond social issues and the bias, uninformed regurgitation of everything else I hear from the people around me). But how does this apply to two candidates who are equally awful? What objective benefit is there to voting?

People always act like not voting is comparable to treason, but if anything, I'm doing the country a favor. I'm not voting because I don't know shit about the issues. You want to get all pissy at me because I don't know the issues, that's a different story; however, don't get mad I'm not voting UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A REASON YOU'RE WILLING TO EXPLAIN *HINT HINT*

Says it much better than I ever could

This post has been edited by MiwAuturu: 18 October 2012 - 09:48 PM

That guy successfully managed to refresh my desire for suicide after about every other word. He is like a more annoying Sxephil. Though, it did have some decent information. I vaguely remember hearing the representation explanation, except when I first heard it, it was from a potential psychopath. Interesting nonetheless.

However, my biggest problem is still this: I do not know shit about politics. I have no interest in politics; my desire to do other things is greater than my desire to learn more about politics; and therefore, I should not be voting.

Meowth, on 18 October 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

Whith out some one in charge of the society we made for or self's anarchy would take hould and some one pushes the mad button and where all fucket.

bluefox, on 18 October 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

Where indeed.

That guy was reblogged by Obama's tumblr with that exact video.

Doesn't make it anymore or less annoying, nor does it make it any more or less informative.

I don't see the difficulty here voting, the differences between the two presidential candidates appear to be in black and white.

Vigtyr, on 18 October 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

If anything it's easy for people like Meowth got get their arse out of the couch and pick the good or lesser evil (point of view).
There's almost zero excuses, unlike in most European elections.

Sofa_King, on 18 October 2012 - 10:41 PM, said:

Please make more sense.

Meowth, on 18 October 2012 - 10:14 PM, said:

Im soory were all fuckt.

meowth just vote for obama christ at least you have people here that are badgering that in so take our word and at least toss one in for bammers

if you still need to be convinced after everything that's been said about romney i don't know what to tell you but just vote for obama if you're not sure

when in doubt vote democrat SORRY BUT THAT'S HOW AMERICA IS

It is your right to vote.
It is your right to not vote.

Society has made it out to be a stigma of being lazy and un-American for not voting. Although the intentions are good (our civic duty, supporting the democratic process, out of pride for your country) it pressures the uninformed to vote. These same people ridicule those who are actually informed, keep up with politics and choose not to vote. What does that say about our system when it becomes more about quantity and less about the quality? It's acceptable to vote for a candidate based simply on race or religion, which many surely do. You will have people who will check the box for Mitt Romney solely because he is Mormon, or for Obama solely because he is Muslim or African-American, which is fine. But say you have a person who is extremely adept and well up-to-date with each of the candidate's platforms. If they deemed neither to be suitable candidates and decide not to vote, all of sudden they are labeled as anarchists, lazy or apathetic people.

Another problem, as seen from above posts, is the philosophy that you have to choose between TWO candidates when in reality there are several candidates on the ticket from different parties. The same people who ridiculeencourage you to vote make it out to being a waste to consider a 3rd party candidate. The media powerhouses, PACs and lobbyists certainly have their hand in influencing our political views. It's just funny and kinda sad that all the slandering propaganda actually discourages the desire to vote and disengages people from the whole electoral process.



On that note, I am voting. Taking my flask of Everclear with me to the local precinct. Need something to smile about while I'm there.

Tae, wanting me to vote for Obama is understandable. Because you belief Obama is better than or less bad than Romney. However, my problem is more along the lines of the actual act of voting. I'm trying to figure out why uninformed voting is so much more important than not voting. I've been hearing this for years, and I'm not just going to cave and let it drop if other people aren't. People should be able to give me a good, solid reason why I, as an uninformed American should be voting. And like I said, I don't mean in this specific race, but in general.

Purin, thank you. That is pretty much the issue I'm having here. I'm not going to head down to the polls to cast a vote for a a candidate I really don't know anything about. That seems like the greater sin.

2012 US Presidental Elections, Presidential Candidates, Office of the President Of The USA
Fact checking website

Educate yourself, you lazy asshole.

Obama is still a huge dick, he's just not a complete moron and actually has made (and has been blocked trying to make) major contributions to help the middle class, poor, and minorities get an upper hand on the elites.

But he also still has Guantanamo bay open, has pretty much instated more executive orders than all the other presidents combined (although Bush comes pretty close), and is in general indirectly killing the fuck out of people overseas.

I don't know, it's obviously more nuanced and complicated but I don't care enough to go more into it. American politics piss me off because all it really comes down to is America is ruled by elites, and for elites.

Taeshi, on 18 October 2012 - 11:59 PM, said:

Voting without understanding is just as bad as not voting at all. And I'm a democract and I do vote blue up here.

Educate yourself and decide who you want to vote on. Even if it's a third party candidate.

2008 - Voting age Citizens: 231,229,580 Actual Votes:132,645,504 Turnout :57.37%

Yes turnouts in almost every major first world country are around 50-70 percent. Get me about the 5 percent of Meowth's, and that's a good chunk of voters. Maybe you don't change the 2 party system anytime soon. But would you get concessions from both parties and consideration during their terms? I think you would.

This post has been edited by Pants: 19 October 2012 - 02:52 AM

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Then educate yourself Jesus tap dancing Christ!!! It is not that hard, even then it can be pretty obvious who you support based on your own opinions. Democrats tend to be progressive, Republicans are conservative. Are you progressive? Vote democrat. Are you conservative? Republicans tend to fit that mold.

And sorry but America's voting system is fucked up, you'll have to deal with it. They favour two parties and any other party is a wasted vote. It's more an issue with America's system, like how with Australia you can vote Green but if the Greens lose a fraction of their percentile gets given to the main party (that being Labor - ie the democrats technically)

Yeah you have a right not to vote, but don't bitch when people think you're a moron for not doing so. And don't bitch when it turns out a really bad president is elected in because you and many other lazy privileged dicks didn't bother leaving their house or spending five minutes googling/ talking to their friends about the candidates. I mean Christ I'm in Australia and I'm pretty dumb and I still sent my vote, what on earth is your excuse?

Pants said:

Dressing up as an American for Halloween, eh?

If you wanna see a really messed up system in action, watch and see what protocol is set up should there be a tie in the electoral college.

This post has been edited by Purin: 19 October 2012 - 04:37 AM

The belief that not voting at all is better than casting a random vote has my support, but that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. Politics do affect our life and the life of the rest of our country, and it is a civil duty to be informed and cast a responsible vote. If you want to live and work in your country it is your duty to be at least a little informed about politics, and you don't need to sweat it to be able to cast a vote.
Apart from that, I think that by not voting you are basically giving up your right to complain, but I also think that no one should force you to vote if you don't want to.

Meowth, on 18 October 2012 - 11:11 PM, said:

If you need more help than that, then i hope your medical respirator doesn't suddenly turn off on you.

You sure are cocky for a guy that doesn't capitalize "i."

Meowth, on 19 October 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

And what does that have to-do with the topic at hand?
Or were you just looking for a snarky response to the confrontation?

Sofa_King, on 20 October 2012 - 09:56 AM, said:

Sofa_King, on 19 October 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

THE TABLES HAVE TURNED.

Meowth, on 20 October 2012 - 09:58 AM, said:

OOH OOOHH, I CAN PLAY THAT GAME TOO!!

Taeshi, on 19 October 2012 - 04:15 AM, said:

Read the wall of text Taeshi posted.
ESPECIALLY the last bit.

This post has been edited by Sofa_King: 20 October 2012 - 10:51 AM

And what does that have to-do with the topic at hand?
Or were you just looking for a snarky response to the confrontation?

Meowth, on 20 October 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:

I think I've found the main component to a perpetual motion machine.
Or just a parrot.

Either way there seems to be a lack of enough intelligence to comprehend American politics 101.

And no, you're not getting any calm & intelligent answers when you're incapable to comprehending posts from several other users stating the same thing.

This post has been edited by Sofa_King: 20 October 2012 - 11:24 AM

Jerk, on 17 October 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

Sofa_King, on 20 October 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

Taeshi, on 19 October 2012 - 04:15 AM, said:

Sofa_King, on 20 October 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

Sofa_King, on 20 October 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

Jerk, on 17 October 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

Taeshi, on 19 October 2012 - 04:15 AM, said:

Sofa_King, on 20 October 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

Meowth, on 19 October 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

You sure are cocky for a guy who never really answered my question.

Just going to squeeze this in here.

I'm going for Gary Johnson.

Meowth, on 20 October 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

Well sorry for not giving the answer you WANTED, and instead giving you the answers you NEEDED.

So instead of giving me THE ANSWER, you just gave IRRELEVANT INFORMATION.

Thanks bro.

meowth if you vote bammers i will draw you any omorashi of your choice

dead serious here

there's your reason

I do not recall getting any form of 'receipt' for voting in 2008?

Is Nader on the list again or did he give up trying?

I don't see a point. One vote does not represent jack shit in nationwide elections. Besides, I'm not voting because the candidates are unworthy of being considered for President of the United States.

Taeshi, on 20 October 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

Okay you win.

DUHHH HEY IS THIS A THREAD ABOUT VOTING ?
WELL GUESS WHAT, I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE: I AM NOT VOTING, SO THERE!!! YOU CANT GET ME TO VOTE!!! THANKS FOR LISTENING

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