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  • Ace
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I swear to god Lucy just jump.

We have to get back to the party, Jasmine might be there.
  • #251

I'm guessing this is a dream of Augustus' (triggered by his earlier conversation w/ Lucy in "December"). Lucy will jump to her death, the reader will turn the page, and we'll see Augustus waking up in some back alley wondering why the fuck he is so worried about Lucy.
  • #252

So, where's her family at? This some kind of trust exercise where her family holds a safety trampoline/net at ground level for her to jump into? ;)
  • #253

For realz. We need to get back to the Jasmine heartbreaking.
  • #254

  • Giygas
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Taeshi knows how to pull off a weekend cliffhanger.
  • #255

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Ace, on 04 January 2013 - 05:22 AM, said:

I swear to god Lucy just jump.

We have to get back to the party, Jasmine might be there.


If she ever shows up, the only thing waiting for her there is a bus ticket out of town

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  • #256

In "LOL VARIOUS SPOILERS" Mike is clawing the wall - could this be because Lucy did jump?
  • #257

  • Migrant
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So sloooooooooooow. 3 pages of lucy waiting to jump!

And jayfeather: no that was meant to be part of the lucy-behind-the-snowman chapter, if I recall.
  • #258

Whelp it was fun while it lasted so long bcb.
  • #259

If Lucy is seriously going to jump, this proves how psychologically messed up she is.

She's had some hard times in her life, sure. But many of those were her issues regarding Mike. Now, even though the rest of her life isn't so bad, she is possibly considering jumping to her death because Mike doesn't like her anymore.

I also love that tons of people in the comments are convinced Augustus is madly in love with her because he doesn't want her to jump.
  • #260

awww, goodness, augustus has a really cute expression .. which i guess is bad to say considering the situation but fUCK ME I HAD TO SAY SO.

but anyway, if he really is day-dreaming, i'll both be irritated and be somewhat happy because it'd be nice of him to worry like that. not that he's ever been an extremely terrible person but you know
it's lucy.

but there's a spoiler on the about page, just though i'd say so
.. or not so much of a spoiler, but a possible hint.

  • #261

Catalyst, on 04 January 2013 - 05:27 AM, said:

I'm guessing this is a dream of Augustus' (triggered by his earlier conversation w/ Lucy in "December"). Lucy will jump to her death, the reader will turn the page, and we'll see Augustus waking up in some back alley wondering why the fuck he is so worried about Lucy.


I honestly hope so.
  • #262

A dream would explain Augustus' encounter with Lucy in the middle of a New Year's Eve. It's possible he could wake up with a bad conscience, but I believes he wouldn't make a big deal out of it.

Otherwise it's uncertain how they managed to cross their path during this time. Maybe it could be according to earlier speculations that Augustus somehow managed transportation for whatever business he got in Roseville. I guess it wouldn't be way too preposterous for him to snoop around like a little gremlin, watching other families' happiness.

Also, lets assume Augustus is eager to have the honor of pushing Lucy off the ledge. That would totally make a strip for "Augustus you Jerk!".
  • #263

Man, never expected cat comics to get 2deep4me.
  • #264

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Viking, on 04 January 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

but I believes he wouldn't make a big deal out of it.

I imagine it every time!

Another theory o Augustus' proximity to Roseville here could be that it wasn't his home he left earlier, but just some place where his parents had been partying. A friend's house or some extended family.
  • #265

Shit.

Now I'm never going to stop hearing that for his posts.
  • #266

Migrant, on 04 January 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

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Viking, on 04 January 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

I imagine it every time!

Toki is the cool one.

I dident have a problem whith mike but now I hate him. I cant see lucy jumping augustus will talk her down and they will have some drama talk and end up at tessis party or they will have a party of ther own. I DONT LIKE MIKE

This post has been edited by bluefox: 04 January 2013 - 02:12 PM

  • #267

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Augustus believes Lucy is about to jump to her death, but I don't believe that is her intention. She'd have to be pretty deranged to be smiling just as she's about to commit suicide right in front of him, and I don't think she's that far gone. No, I think there's a tree or something on that side which we can't see. (That could even explain how she got up there. Cats are pretty good at climbing.) So all in all, a nice joke on poor concerned Augustus, eh?

As for what Lucy is doing up there in the first place, well, perhaps that's just a thinking place for her, way up high where she can ponder the wintry landscape. (After all, Lucy loves winter.) But if that's a location in Roseville or close to it, then it remains to be explained what Augustus is doing there. Perhaps he was going to crash Tess' party and grab some free food and drinks, I don't know. Or maybe he just wants to observe Daisy from afar! (The creeper.)


Toffee said:

but there's a spoiler on the about page, just though i'd say so
.. or not so much of a spoiler, but a possible hint.

If you mean the part about "one girl who can unravel everything", that girl would be Daisy, not Lucy. Or so we assume, since Daisy is the one whom Augustus likes and whom he's opened up to most. But with Daisy unavailable, he might perhaps share more with Lucy now. After all, Lucy certainly is a match for his biting wit, and they've talked occasionally during school lunches.


Migrant said:

Jayfeather21 said:

In "LOL VARIOUS SPOILERS" Mike is clawing the wall - could this be because Lucy did jump?

And jayfeather: no that was meant to be part of the lucy-behind-the-snowman chapter, if I recall.

Mike clawing a wall could indeed signify his frustration with Lucy. If that is indeed the case, then all of the scenes in "LOL VARIOUS SPOILERS" have come to pass. Maybe Taeshi needs to do another rendition of future scenes. ;)


Ace said:

We have to get back to the party, Jasmine might be there.

It would be ironic if you never saw Jasmine again. :D
  • #268

Yeah I was gonna say Lucy smiling about the situation kinda annoyed me. As if she was standing up there waiting for someone to come along and be all "Don't do it nooooo"

Damn attention whores.
  • #269

Oh god that would be awful. If she honestly felt the only way to receive attention was to put herself in harms way.
  • #270

wacko, on 04 January 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Augustus believes Lucy is about to jump to her death, but I don't believe that is her intention. She'd have to be pretty deranged to be smiling just as she's about to commit suicide right in front of him, and I don't think she's that far gone. No, I think there's a tree or something on that side which we can't see. (That could even explain how she got up there. Cats are pretty good at climbing.) So all in all, a nice joke on poor concerned Augustus, eh?

As for what Lucy is doing up there in the first place, well, perhaps that's just a thinking place for her, way up high where she can ponder the wintry landscape. (After all, Lucy loves winter.) But if that's a location in Roseville or close to it, then it remains to be explained what Augustus is doing there. Perhaps he was going to crash Tess' party and grab some free food and drinks, I don't know. Or maybe he just wants to observe Daisy from afar! (The creeper.)


Toffee said:

but there's a spoiler on the about page, just though i'd say so
.. or not so much of a spoiler, but a possible hint.

If you mean the part about "one girl who can unravel everything", that girl would be Daisy, not Lucy. Or so we assume, since Daisy is the one whom Augustus likes and whom he's opened up to most. But with Daisy unavailable, he might perhaps share more with Lucy now. After all, Lucy certainly is a match for his biting wit, and they've talked occasionally during school lunches.


Migrant said:

Jayfeather21 said:

In "LOL VARIOUS SPOILERS" Mike is clawing the wall - could this be because Lucy did jump?

And jayfeather: no that was meant to be part of the lucy-behind-the-snowman chapter, if I recall.

Mike clawing a wall could indeed signify his frustration with Lucy. If that is indeed the case, then all of the scenes in "LOL VARIOUS SPOILERS" have come to pass. Maybe Taeshi needs to do another rendition of future scenes. ;)


Ace said:

We have to get back to the party, Jasmine might be there.

It would be ironic if you never saw Jasmine again. :D
I'm not really sure if it's been confirmed or not, but I like to think that the Various Spoilers page doesn't go in order (even if it has so far :/)
  • #271

This could all be a dream.
  • #272

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wacko, on 04 January 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:


Ace said:

We have to get back to the party, Jasmine might be there.

It would be ironic if you never saw Jasmine again. :D


I have my assurances
  • #273

wacko, on 04 January 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Toffee said:

but there's a spoiler on the about page, just though i'd say so
.. or not so much of a spoiler, but a possible hint.

If you mean the part about "one girl who can unravel everything", that girl would be Daisy, not Lucy. Or so we assume, since Daisy is the one whom Augustus likes and whom he's opened up to most. But with Daisy unavailable, he might perhaps share more with Lucy now. After all, Lucy certainly is a match for his biting wit, and they've talked occasionally during school lunches.


Nope, not what I meant. I mean, it was probably useless to say anyhow, but I figured I'd point it out--it's actually just the picture used for Augustus's entry. I don't recall seeing it so far. Considering he doesn't appear distressed--just vaguely thoughtful--I doubt she jumps or really does anything too terrible .. but I dunno

Considering Augustus goes for the "miserable types", I imagine he would get closer to Lucy from this point on since she's a wreck. Not that he'll ever be all sweet with her as he was with Daisy, but yeah, not going to be surprised if they start hanging out and whatever. She'll probably need him to get a kick into her senses.
  • #274

What would you be willing to sacrifice to keep Jasmine in the comic?
  • #275

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Vigtyr said:

Oh god that would be awful. If she honestly felt the only way to receive attention was to put herself in harms way.

I doubt Lucy expected Augustus (or anyone else) to actually come up and see what she was doing. But given that Augustus is now all concerned about her, my guess is she's taking the opportunity to really fake him out and catch him off-guard.


Jayfeather21 said:

I'm not really sure if it's been confirmed or not, but I like to think that the Various Spoilers page doesn't go in order (even if it has so far :/)

Assuming we've puzzled this out correctly (the pertinent thread is here), the spoilers aren't actually in a particular order. From left to right:

  • Lucy behind a snowman is in chapter 71, "Just Beautiful". Here we assume that Mike clawing something symbolizes his frustration with her within the same chapter.

  • Lucy on top of a building with Augustus looking up is within the current chapter (chapter 73).

  • Taeshi has stated that Abbey crying was meant to represent chapter 69, "At Loose Ends", except that she found it wasn't really logical to show him quite that way.

  • Here we assume that Tess crying represents chapter 67, "Fade Away".


falconboy99 said:

This could all be a dream.

To me, that'd be a cop-out. It also wouldn't fit logically within this chapter. There's no reason for Augustus to be sleeping at this point, let alone dreaming about Lucy jumping off a roof.


Toffee said:

Nope, not what I meant. I mean, it was probably useless to say anyhow, but I figured I'd point it out--it's actually just the picture used for Augustus's entry. I don't recall seeing it so far. Considering he doesn't appear distressed--just vaguely thoughtful--I doubt she jumps or really does anything too terrible .. but I dunno

Oh, good eye! I hadn't considered the new image of Augustus on the About page. He's wearing the sweater underneath his poncho which we haven't seen other than in this chapter. Taeshi does have a bit of a buffer, so it's quite possible that image is from a page we haven't seen yet.

On a semi-related note, Blur looks great. :)


Purin said:

What would you be willing to sacrifice to keep Jasmine in the comic?

I bet Ace would be willing to sacrifice his balls. XD
  • #276

Migrant, on 04 January 2013 - 01:36 PM, said:

Spoiler

Viking, on 04 January 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

but I believes he wouldn't make a big deal out of it.

I imagine it every time!

Oh my god, so much for taking learning. I guess I'll be a Toki Wartooth until I get my head around this lingual issue. It's like a subconscious signature there the 's' stands for Scandinavian.

To be honest, I was barely even aware of Toki's errors until I got clarified of this issue. I just assumed it to be correct English. Heck, I even used to say stuffs like "womens" myself.

I finds (Found that 's' during proofreading. Ha!) it quite comical to be able to see this error myself. I can now totally picture how a character of Nordic origin constantly doing this mistake by formulating stuffs like, "I thinks snow days is unneeded, but I likes to have a free day from school." :D

Anyhow, Lucy's smile certainly gives pretty psychotic vibes while she's turning back to the heights. Augustus might have just expected her to be typically self-pitying and mopey, not a lifeless shell purged from any emotions what-so-ever. Augustus surely got himself an unexpected surprise.

Lucy, on the other hand, might have not intended to receive any attention. Neither might she intend to suicide, even if she's being crazy by standing on the ledge like that. Maybe she felt she needed to distance herself from her family, depending on what they was talking about.
  • #277

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Nah nah, I'm sure all of you would make good sacrifices.

Please scream, it makes my scapel sing.
  • #278

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As opposed to your scalpel, Ace? ^_^
  • #279

He will cut you Wacko.

He needs practice for his small animal neutering rotations anyway.
  • #280

  • Ace
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Internet out in Alvin is awful and it wouldn't bring up the editor so I left it be.
I do have my assurances she will remain however.
Assuming this goes through.
  • #281

if lucy jumps, i'll finally have an answer to the thing about the BCB universe that has been bugging me the most

do cats always land on their feet
  • #282

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Yes.
  • #283

See. She'll be just fine.
  • #284

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Na, wacko. I'm pretty sure Lucy was at least seriously considering jumping. Her smile is just 'cause she was happy to have someone who cares. Augustus might easily convince her not to jump, and she might pretend it was never her intention. But she's been seriously gloomy since her last meeting with Mike, I can easily imagine her wanting to kill herself (which could have been further exaggerated by whatever her family was planning).

Also:

  • #285

No one here really gets how being suicidal feels. If they did, they wouldn't say such things as "she's smiling, that means she's not suicidal!"

To give a parallel from another story, another webcomic I read had a character Kazuo go through feeling belittled and worthless because of his father (two examples of his conflict: Red String ~ A web comics about love and growing up. Art by Gina Biggs - Chapter 43 Page 14
Red String ~ A web comics about love and growing up. Art by Gina Biggs - Chapter 43 Page 18 )

At one point in the story he came home, all smiles, giving his sisters gifts: Red String ~ A web comics about love and growing up. Art by Gina Biggs - Chapter 43 Page 20

By the end of that chapter, this happened: Red String ~ A web comics about love and growing up. Art by Gina Biggs - Chapter 43 Page 31

So no, having a smile on their face doesn't mean that someone won't commit suicide. In fact, a sudden shift in attitude after being stuck in a mental swamp of moroseness is a huge warning sign.

This post has been edited by Floweramon: 05 January 2013 - 01:53 AM

  • #286

I remember Daisy falling off the top of a cheer leading pyramid and landing on her feet and hands so they are like real cats but even if Lucy falls correctly she may still brake her legs and arms witch would make for some interesting drama and we would get Lucy in a wheelchair.

This post has been edited by RickAstley: 05 January 2013 - 02:14 AM

  • #287

Spoiler

(http://www.bitterswe.../post/view/2956)
  • #288

Here lies Lucy.

She killed herself and then everybody went on with their lives.

The end.

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  • #289

Floweramon, on 05 January 2013 - 01:52 AM, said:

So no, having a smile on their face doesn't mean that someone won't commit suicide. In fact, a sudden shift in attitude after being stuck in a mental swamp of moroseness is a huge warning sign.

Panel one of this seems to sum it up pretty well to me.
  • #290

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I admit that I don't know what it's like to be suicidal. I've only suffered from "depression" (not clinical depression) once, and while I've had my moments of feeling worthless, I never once wanted to die. So I can't truly say that I know what Lucy's thinking right now.

On the other hand, Augustus has already bluntly told Lucy that she'd be worthless if she threw her life away simply because Mike rejected her. And Lucy respects Augustus' blunt honesty, otherwise she wouldn't have talked to him. Plus we do have an assurance of sorts: no one in the canon story dies other than Charlotte (and possibly a couple of the fan characters, depending on if their deaths are still canon). In fact, even in the bad ending, no one dies.
  • #291

She did have suicidal thoughts. Let me search for it... there it is!

Spoiler


So, my premonition on what is going to happen:

- Augustus talks Lucy to not do it.
- She will stop, but eventually she will come back to the idea of jumping down.
- Or augustus will stop her, or Paulo will do.
- When she decides to not jump, or she is stopped, Paulo will appear and tell her "I love you" (this may happen in later chapters).
- Mike explodes (because he deserves it!)

And about the smile, I can imagine she is thinking "Incredible, he appeared here again" or something like this. It may also mean she took the final decission to jump, like "now I see it clearly".
  • #292

All this stuff about smiles reminded me of a similar scene in one of the previous chapters "Piece of Cake".

They're even in the same frames, if I'm not mistaken.
  • #293

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Do a flip.

This post has been edited by Chris: 05 January 2013 - 09:28 PM

  • #294

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Again I wonder what action Lucy's mom was considering taking, to make her say "It'd be a big step, but she could think I'm abandoning her."

  • Could Lucy's mom be considering sending her to a therapist/psychologist/psychiatrist? That wouldn't be abandoning Lucy at all, in fact it would be helping her. And it would be the logical first step to deal with depression.

  • Could Lucy's mom be considering sending her to a mental hospital? That seems a bit extreme for a first step, considering Lucy had been depressed for less than two weeks. Nevertheless it could explain Lucy's mom's fear that her daughter would think she's abandoning her.

  • Could Lucy's mom be considering sending her to an all-female boarding school to get her away from boys for a while? It's possible, especially considering that Jordan thought that one of her friends (if not Paulo specifically) was responsible for her current state of mind. And again, that would bring in the abandonment angle.

  • Some other legitimate and practical option besides the above, that I might not have thought of?

In any case, Lucy now (probably) knows what her family was considering doing. How does that play into her current actions? Would one of these options make her more likely to consider suicide? Yet she must know that her family is very concerned about her and wants to help her. Perhaps she does not want to be a burden to them anymore? Maybe it's a good thing Augustus showed up; she can be reminded of his words in "December".
  • #295

Lucy may be smiling from the irony of it. Augustus is the one who told her suicide is idiotic and that doing it makes you worthless, and here he is, the only one who comes to her when she's about to go through with it, the one saying "Why are you throwing your life away?" panicking, proving she means something.

Also she might just burst into laughter that Augustus thought she was going to jump and that it cracked through his "don't care" facade. Sometimes going through emotional pain like that can make you quite cynical.
  • #296

I haven't been following the comic lately, now that I'm up to date, I have to say that I like where the story is going. I read that one top comment by Solvek, and kind of agreed with him, the comic didn't seem to be going anywhere, but it's really getting interesting. I like it when the comic is deep and dark, I find it interesting when comics cover topics like suicide, etc...
  • #297

I can totally see how someone would think like that comment. All that's really happened in 2012 in the "main" Lucy plot is Paulo going to Lucy's house and getting turned away, and Lucy looking sad at the end of Just Beautiful. That's it. The year was soaked up by Abbey's past, Mike meeting Sandy and a few months of the intro chapter. It's easy to see that you could get burned out on caring about Lucy when your past year's memory of her is limited to two small and similar events.

Of course, that's all over with now. The next year won't be devoted to Lucy either, but the next few chapters are certainly all about the core set of characters. School is coming back and the characters are going to have to interact. Plus there's one secret thing we have in mind that will really get the (present) story moving.

I do wonder, though, do people find the pacing of this comic unusually slow-moving for a long-form webcomic? I've always thought it was obviously written as a story better suited for all-at-once graphic novel style reading, and it only gets by as a webcomic because Veronica's really good at plotting out each page (so that each page tells a tiny story and has a satisfying conclusion - i.e. good comic writing.)

I don't think BCB is necessarily slow in its energy or plotting, but I am curious if readers of other long-form comics feel that it gets much less accomplished in the same amount of updates, and why they think that might be so.
  • #298

I personally think that the pacing is a hooking point to the story, it doesn't rush itself and make everything seem trivial nor does it move slowly enough to cause me to lose interest

Accomplishing something faster won't mean it has been done better especially if that siphons off the quality of what is being produced

The last few chapter especially have been really engrossing for me and I don't think after seeing them as they are now that I'd be satisfied with anything different
  • #299

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Accomplishing something faster won't mean it has been done better

quote of the fucking year THANK YOU

i don't mind the pacing much? i mean, i was really surprised to notice yesterday that december was posted in 2011
but, when i think about it, the pacing hasn't really been the problem. it's just that the attention has been split away from lucy; there was abbey's chapter, mike's chapter, paulo's chapter, and the summary. there's hardly been any lucy this year at all. so, i guess i can understand why any caring would be drained away after it being so long, but i don't think that has anything to do with things being too "slow".

but anyway, i enjoy the pacing we have now because it kinda gives me time to soak things in..? not sure how to describe it. there's something to observe and think about in every page (as suitcase pretty much said) and i think that's what makes everything sit well with me!!

This post has been edited by Toffee: 06 January 2013 - 10:17 AM

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