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ChewySmokey, on 28 January 2013 - 07:57 AM, said:

This is possibly the best reaction to this page. And that's saying something considering the reactions so far haha.

It's funny to see all the comments demonizing Paulo. Amusing, but utterly stupid.

He'll get what's coming anyway.

Ace, on 28 January 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

Brb, gonna go be sad for a bit then get over it cause Jasmine will still be around. Maybe she'll find a guy in her grade who can be in the same clubs as her, that would be nice.

Or this could be the platform for my OTP; DavidxJasmine.

SpaceMouse, on 28 January 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

Tess will be joining her wen she graduates so she wont be alone.

Leaving_a_Comment, on 28 January 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

I love you commie

Ace, on 28 January 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

Because DavidxJasmine is the best, hands down. Just look at her standing there, needing to be comforted by a certain chocolate lab. This is the stuff Fanfics are made of.

its also the stuff guro is made of

Poor Jasmine. Yes, she was the one who proposed seeing other people, but still, it always hurts when you find out that your boyfriend wants to break up with you because of another girl. I'm sure she'll bounce back though, she seems like a resilient girl. And she's mature enough to know that the end of a relationship isn't the end of the world.

I do wonder in what capacity we'll see Jasmine in the future, if it'll just be the occasional cameo in the comic, or if we'll see her trying to comfort Paulo if/when Lucy rejects him.

The people in the page comments are dumb to demonize Paulo. The fact is that he tried his best to keep the relationship with Jasmine going, even when he had doubts. And if he did indeed harbour doubts for an extended period of time, then it was best that he broke up with Jasmine and didn't drag things out (this applies regardless of whether he liked someone else or not). I especially appreciate that Paulo told Jasmine the truth about having a crush on another girl. Way to go, guy, you're really maturing.

This post has been edited by wacko: 28 January 2013 - 09:37 PM

I suppose I should have a "real" discussion about this beyond the expected party gifs etc that people believe I should do.

Jasmine is crying because she realizes she's the one who fucked up.

1) She knows she was having trouble making time for Paulo. She knows she is the one to blame here, because Paulo was trying to make time for her, and she was, on multiple occasions, the one to turn him down.
She made time for him only by stopping doing something she disliked. Even then, she still continued to not make time for him (see the holiday break). She obviously understood this, as she gave that as a reason that she felt they should break up.

2) She is selfish. She has been selfish in their relationship. Time and time again. She has strung him along for months, and then tried to do a sleazy thing: break Paulo off, and expect that he would come back to her. She expected the entire reason to be because of time. Not because she has been a bad girlfriend in any way. Her realization of this happens in these pages.

3) Her revelation about Paulo loving someone else undermines the extent of her failure: she has been so poor as a girlfriend, she not only pushed him away, she actively kept him from happiness.

This ultimate point is really why she's crying; she realizes and understands that everything here is completely her own fault. Despite her being bad, Paulo still was loyal to her the entire time. He didn't stray from her. But because she pushed him away, because she fucked up so badly, she realizes she lost out on her perfect boyfriend.

They worked very well together; if the situation wasn't such that she existed only as an obstruction I probably would have liked her more. I enjoy the back and forth I have with Ace about this, but she ultimately existed entirely to make the lives of the two characters I care about the most and want to be happy (Paulo and Lucy) worse off, and make them unhappy.

Goodbye, Jasmine. If only you hadn't failed so badly.

Wow mouse.

The fact you actually believe that is a little depressing.

Ace, on 28 January 2013 - 09:02 PM, said:

can't be any more depressing to you than the knowledge jasmine's gone

That's some serious trollin'.

Anyway, I think it was the shock she was replaced so quickly, before she could even suggest the idea to break up, that hit her hard about it. I wonder if she would have been as upset if she had found out he had someone else if it was say, a month or so afterwards.

SpaceMouse said:

What if Lucy were to reject Paulo, believing that she's not ready for a relationship? Would that be depressing to you?

I don't think Jasmine is crying because she knows she's fucked things up (although she shouldn't have thought that maybe she could date Paulo again later on). She did realize that she was too busy to have time for a boyfriend, and that is indeed a good reason to break up. Hence if she was selfish before, she redeemed herself by releasing Paulo.

wacko, on 28 January 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

Lucy isn't ready for a relationship.

She's very much still caught up on Mike. The key thing here is that she needs someone willing to show her they're willing to dedicate themselves to helping her REGARDLESS of her being ready, which is what Paulo is. He's not looking for an easy lay. He loves her. And as such, he's willing to show her, and help her, regardless.

I agree Lucy's not ready for a relationship.

It will all depend on how Paulo approaches Lucy. If it's as a friend first, supporting her, then he may succeed in developing a relationship with her eventually. I can hope that is the case, but this is BCB, and I don't think the drama is over just yet.

SpaceMouse, on 28 January 2013 - 10:03 PM, said:

Exactly. He may have came off as a jerk, but I think that is actually changing for him as a result of Lucy. It's been building up to that for how long now?

Of course lucy is not redy for a relationship her best friend slash first love rejected her and totally hates her. Certain people just cant stand being by themselves and they just want to be in company of someone . As long as paulo helps lucy in any way i'll be happy.

And now that Mouse just brought the logic smackdown on Jasmine, I turned into a shipper of PauloxLucy.
CONGRATULATIONS, I FINALLY SHIP BCB CHARACTERS

This post has been edited by KiraDood5: 28 January 2013 - 11:13 PM

KiraDood5, on 28 January 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jesus fuck that camp of loonies can have you

Seems to me Jasmine might be more emotional with breaking up then the whole other girl thing. Not that it doesn't add to the fire, but breaking up is hard.

She started it, but maybe she expected him to cry and beg.

Jasmine was completely fine with breaking up until Paulo revealed he was into another boy girl.

so yeah, what Spacemouse typed out is completely valid, imo.

it's like "i can't make time for him and that's not fair to him" breakup is far more favorable to "i can't make time for him and his eyes started wandering elsewhere" breakup.

This post has been edited by Kaxbe: 29 January 2013 - 02:14 AM

It's gotta be a real stinger to learn your boyfriend is breaking up with you for another person.

Not that i'm saying Paulo's a dick for doing so, he's doing what will make him happy and has the decency to break up with Jazz before pursuing Lucy, there's no guarantee she'd agree.

Still, hurts to know that someone is just over all better than you.

Edit: Also DAT BUS, it was drawn TWO YEARS ago? Man that makes me feel old.

This post has been edited by Anialator: 29 January 2013 - 01:31 PM

The suspense is to much to take will molly be able to stay up till midnite? Or will she fall 10 seconds to short.

Or Jasmine could just be crying cause ya know, she broke up with her boyfriend? Regardless if both parties thought it was the right thing to do, she and Paulo were still close for the time that they went out and as an adolescent teen, she still gave a large portion of herself to Paulo even if she didn't spend a ton of time with him. She is hurting and upset that the relationship is over and that she and Paulo will probably never be that close again.

If anything it's pretty atypical that Paulo is the one who got upset that she never had time for him and shows that he is the less trusting and stable person in the relationship, otherwise he would have been okay with Jasmine doing other stuff and not wanting to smother him with attention. Why it's possible Jasmine is having regrets right now, it's highly more likely that she is simply felling down because hey, she just broke up with her (I think?) first boyfriend and that is a shitty experience no matter how much you both agree that it needed to happen.

You know another view just since we're all over thinking the relationship between cartoon cats and all right now.

Leaving_a_Comment said:

You don't think Paulo should have been bothered by the fact his girlfriend wasn't spending enough time with him? If you're in a relationship, you expect to spend time with the other person. Not that you should be smothered with attention (since clinginess can be bad also), but you shouldn't be essentially ignored in favour of other activities either.

wacko, on 29 January 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

Yea sure paulo and jasmine had a lot in common but how much did they actualy no about echother was the problem.

So I'm getting a bit confused right now. Not at this whole discussion about how Jasmine is crying; that's retarded. I mean the current events in the comic, particularly those involving Paulo.

Jasmine asked him if he was going to tell Lucy how he feels, but what exactly does that entail? What could he possibly tell Lucy that isn't already common knowledge? Will it be an ultimatum? It isn't exactly a secret that Paulo is in love with Lucy, nor is it a secret that Lucy is extremely aroused by the thought of Paulo's 4 inch micro dick penetrating her velvet cake. So I think a far more interesting question than "why is Jasmine crying, and is her crying validated" would be what comes next? What new piece of information is Paulo going to tell Lucy, and how will it affect their potential relationship?

I think a lot of people have started to accept PxL as being the OTP, but I'm honestly starting to doubt it. I can't speak for how the comic will end, but it is looking like this is going in a bad direction. The main reason I say this is because I honestly doubt Lucy loves Paulo. I think she is a bit infatuated with him, but deep down knows that he is not who she wants to be with. Mike or no Mike, it is becoming increasingly apparent that she doesn't want Paulo -- she just wants the D.

Then again, maybe I am wrong and she is deeply confused. I just think it is worth considering, especially after all this time has gone by and they still have not gotten together. You would think that if a person really loved another, they could only control themselves so long, especially someone like Lucy. If she saw happiness with Paulo, she'd have gone for it once she realized Mike was never going to happen.

Too bad the books were delayed. I think there's a good answer in there.

BCB Forums get deep

I cant stop thinking about lucy's velvet cake. Paulo actually loves lucy so he is the best hope for helping her sense his feelings are true. He new something was up wen he brought her that piece of cake and he whants to help her regardless of the outcome.

Meowth, on 29 January 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

The dreaded Friendzone. That'd be pretty wrenching for Paulo.

Meowth, on 29 January 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

Meowth, on 29 January 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

I missed your posts.

In response to the point you were trying to make though I can see where you're coming from, but my thought on it was that like after Back and Forth they were more back to friend status, since she maybe saw banging those bitches as a sign that he might not want to date her, as compared to when they were getting really close before that, right after the Another Shoulder chapter. Granted they have had bonding moments like Carry Me, but I think it's still not as obvious as it once might have been to Lucy especially with her mind being preoccupied on Mike's D-isgust of her.

This post has been edited by Junior Boomer: 30 January 2013 - 01:11 AM

wacko, on 29 January 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

No I'm saying for a boy Paulo is acting atypical when it comes to complaining about them not spending enough time together, and not as a stereotypical "oh guys never want to do anything and girls are just clingy" way either, but from a social psych standpoint. The typical male usually isn't bothered by his significant other doing stuff without him (Assuming that she isn't just hanging out with other boys) and is usually open and pretty cool about that kind of stuff. Because he isn't acting normal though it kinda makes him seem more clingy and less trusting when it comes to girlfriends. And if we were to turn the discussion to PauloxLucy, is definitely not what Lucy needs right now.

Really that's one of the reasons I've never been real big into Paulo and Lucy as a couple, I think they make great friends but when it comes to the deep intimacy that comes with a relationship, I don't think they would help each other grow as people. Sure they would be there for one another and have a fun and playful relationship, but if Lucy really starts displaying serious signs of depression (which she already is starting to, and not just the standing on the roof, girl is coming unhinged) all Paulo would do is try and shelter her instead of being the catalyst she needs to grow as a person. She doesn't need a protector or a hero coming and saving her, she needs to do that herself.

What Lucy needs is someone who will help her stand on her own and offer support, but not be her crutch which is all Mike, Paulo and now Augustus are ever going to be. LucyxSelfesteem every-fucking-day.

bluefox, on 30 January 2013 - 12:05 AM, said:

I know, right?

Junior Boomer, on 30 January 2013 - 01:10 AM, said:

That's an interesting consideration. My problem is that I feel like if Lucy really did love Paulo, she'd have gotten over that. It is pretty apparent (even to the cast) that Paulo feels differently about Lucy than he does about anyone else. That includes Rachel, Dusty (I can't remember the name of the female dog, but she looks like a "Dusty" so let's go with that), and even Jasmine. The difference is he loves her.

Leaving_a_Comment, on 30 January 2013 - 03:29 AM, said:

In regards to everything you said, it is all very interesting, though I don't know if I entirely agree. I don't feel like there is enough information to know whether or not Paulo's desire to spend more time with Jasmine is "abnormal." How much time are they spending together, really? It is completely natural to want to spend time with your other when you're in a relationship -- yes, even for the male. Honestly, I would say in today's society it is "abnormal" to want a relationship more focused on not being around each other! But my point is, it is hard to say how often they even are together; all we can conclude is that Paulo did (and possibly does) have a problem with it.

Also, even if Paulo is abnormal in the sense he wants to spend a lot of time with his number 1 hoe, I don't think it changes much. It seems I've stumbled into a discussion on who a finger should be pointed at, and while I can't say who is at fault, I can say Paulo simply wanting a girlfriend he can be around a lot -- abnormal or not -- does not indicate he is at fault.

Also, ha, how is Augustus a crutch? If anything he is rat poison in the temperamental world known as Lucy.

I don't know why people are pointing fingers though. It is what it is? It's just that some people feel that someone should be blamed.

I think commie has it right though!

Obviously this is Mike's fault.

But look at Mike he's so kawaii in this new page

If you look closely at the last panel, it kind of looks like Paulo is surprise penetrating him. #IWish #gay #WishUponAStar

Either I can't see the picture in the thread, or someone hasn't posted it yet.

Nope, you were first this time. Mazeltov.

Oh Mike, what the fuck have you done...

Hope Mike doesn't have a backbone here or Paulo could get his shit pushed in.

Everybody should learn from Sandy how to take a self shot with their phone.

Cavara, on 30 January 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

Try not to look at it and think "duckface."

...Oops.

Kissing your phone in public is a fantastic idea.

proper cell phone etiquette dictates that he should have sent a pic back, also wishing a Happy New Year.

As long as he didn't misclick on Cock.jpg before kissing the phone...

Kaxbe, on 30 January 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

Yea but mike would rather make out with his fhone and then go to the bathroom for about 10 minutes first then hill send a picture back .

We can only hope that Mike duckfaces too.

Mike may be doing a FaceTime video call with Sandy, in which case it'd be entirely appropriate for him to kiss his iPhone. Paulo, of course, takes the opportunity to ridicule Mike. Still got a ways to mature there, Paulo. ^_^

I am not sure what could break Mike and Sandy apart, unless perhaps Sandy's mother decided that a long-distance relationship (or any kind of relationship) wasn't in her daughter's best interests. And yet I think such a break-up would be the only way to tempt Daisy away from Abbey. Otherwise, minus the drama, we're left with two cute but boring couples (or so Taeshi says). Although as for myself, I'd take cute and boring any day.

As for the whole Paulo/Jasmine discussion, I would tend to side a bit more with Meowth: I don't think it's abnormal for Paulo to want to spend more than a token amount of time with his girlfriend. In the teenage years, relationships are all about developing interpersonal skills and finding out what types of people you like, and you can't do either of those things without spending time with the other person.