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Q: Mike's favorite memory of Lucy is an affirmation of friendship, but in the recent "hate speech" he claims they've never been friends. Is he knowingly lying or just conveniently forgetful? (If this is spoilers, sorry, but if not...)

A: sigh

I don't even understand how I have to explain this

here's an example from my own experience

i had a friend who i thought was my best friend, we are not talking anymore and I hate him now, and in retrospect despite all the feelings I had towards him in the past, I realised he treated me like shit and belittled me and was an absolutely scumbag to me. So in reality he wasn't really my friend at all, no matter how much I loved him back then.

but like.. since when have humans said things absolutely completely factual? Fact-checked, researched, all that sort of thing? I cannot understand why people assume Mike is like in freaken court getting checked with "OH YOU SAY THIS BUT BACK THEN YOU SAID THIS SO YOU ARE LYING RIGHT????"

i can't believe i have to spoonfeed this much. His feelings are genuine, no matter how hard people want to twist it and make it seem like OH HE'S LYING HE STILL LIKES LUCY or OH HE'S JUST FORGETTING ABOUT IT. jesus christ. He hates her. STOP ASKING.

I'm sorry I have to be such a jerk about this, but I honestly get people asking me this too much and being really semantic as if there's some underlying feeling that Mike has that MAYBE MEANS HE STILL LIKES LUCY, but he DOESN'T. Do I have to make it CLEARER. It's like they want to find a reason to make their shipping work and I just am getting really sick of it, and really sick of how you keep coming back continually trying to get some sort of form of falsehood to Mike's feelings even though I made it pretty damn clear he DOESN'T LIKE HER. And he MEANS WHAT HE SAYS.

He DOESN'T like her because she TREATS HIM LIKE SHIT and he HATES HER realising in retrospect SHE IS NOT A NICE PERSON TO HIM, yeah she has done nice things and her actions in Confrontation are pretty noble, but I bet you there are housewives who get beaten every freaken day and their husband then comes home with a bouquet of roses telling them they're their soulmate and all that stuff, DOES THAT MEAN IT SUDDENLY GETS RID OF THE FACT THE HUSBAND BEATS THE SHIT OUT OF HER EVERY DAY? NO! God!

Stop asking!

I mean god there's a reason your questions are continually being flagged on formspring, I really should just obey that. Because you continually keep trying to find a way to destroy Mike's intentions and I have said it before that he MEANS WHAT HE SAYS.

So I suppose what I'd like to discuss is, does Taeshi's official statement conflict with how you see it being portrayed? Does it change how you view the story as is, or is your immediate reaction to invoke Death of the Author on this and any/all official words outside the story?

Floweramon, on 16 March 2013 - 10:11 PM, said:

I want you to do a little experiment. A game, if you will: you feel some kind of desperate need to answer this question or, at the very least, acquire multiple points of view that will validate whatever dumb theory you have about Mike either because you're too dumb to catch subtlety or too impatient to wait for a comic that will clarify your point. The game is that every time you think about asking this, a question that has been ostensibly answered by the auther either through Formspring or through subtle character interactions, you bring out a hammer and a nail. If you think you're about to type something annoying, irrelevant or redundant, place to the tip of the nail at the joint of one of your phalanges and then swing the hammer down on the nail's head as hard as you can. Continue this and you'll either learn your lesson or be physically unable to type. We all win either way.

Taeshi is only going to give you a straight answer for things that won't explicitly be answered in the course of a story arc. If it's subtle, she doesn't want it apparent. It's open for interpretation and, as an author, that's very very likely what she wants. Taeshi could be teasing you with formspring or not. But it's completely irrelevant in regard to the comic because the medium she uses as her true Word of God is the comic itself. Ultimatum: take her at her word, take the comic as her word or just shut the fuck up and watch.

If you're going to act like a petulant, impatient fuck, I am going to treat you like a petulant impatient fuck. It's nothing personal: just quit being a faggot (in this case, by creating issues where there are none) and I'll leave you alone.

Whatever happens I think we should all just trust Taeshi's judgement. She'll make the right decision in the end.

On the topic of letting it all play out, I've never understood why people always ask Tae for spoilers in the first place. Its somewhat akin to begging asking Bungie for the Recon armour on Halo 3. the answer is always No, so why even bother.

Has any one stop to think about amaya's feelings?

Nah, Amaya's not mute, just really quiet! She does speak, we just don't see it in the comic because it's basically a running joke by now.

wacko, on 19 March 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

In the least, it would be pretty cool to see Amaya use a Thu'um (shout) like the Dragonborn.

not even a full page and we're already completely derailed. can we close this now or something

We've had bluefox, foolishprototype AND flowermon (whose use of a quote regarding Taeshi considering blocking him was, albeit, goddamn hilarious) all post here. It's the shit trifecta for an issue already addressed or that will address itself with even a the tiniest capacity for observation in the future. Where does it all end?