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Poll: Is it worth discussing things that have been discussed before? What's your take.
Yes. We are dim like that; we need reminders. ^_^
"Furries" directed by Michael Bay Hey, I believe someone wanted this to be it's own topic. Opinions
We should talk about quilting. Quilting is fun.
- #52
- 18 December 2010 - 04:06 PM
- Lycan
- call me lyucs
Member 
In light of what Mr. SuitCase defined, then I'm not to be considered a furry. 
But I know there are plenty of other attachments and compulsive behaviors that are much worse than compulsively consuming anthro art.
I know that's not a real argument in defense of "that's not something to be ashamed of", but still...
As long as it won't mess with other's lives, I'm cool.
Besides, most people (if not all) have something they are particularly fascinated, in my humble opinion. Some are just accepted by the masses of people.
But I know there are plenty of other attachments and compulsive behaviors that are much worse than compulsively consuming anthro art.
I know that's not a real argument in defense of "that's not something to be ashamed of", but still...
As long as it won't mess with other's lives, I'm cool.
Besides, most people (if not all) have something they are particularly fascinated, in my humble opinion. Some are just accepted by the masses of people.
- #53
- 18 December 2010 - 04:10 PM
- kekon
- Member
Hentai13, on 18 December 2010 - 06:37 PM, said:
Lota Furry haters for a fourum abought a comic with anthro cats and dogs.
Just sayin.
@ Kekon He sayed quilting not quitting.
Just sayin.
@ Kekon He sayed quilting not quitting.
...
So quilting like getting owned at Marvel vs Capcom 2 quilting?
(probably didn't see that because the text on this screen is frikin small)
This post has been edited by kekon: 18 December 2010 - 09:49 PM
- #56
- 18 December 2010 - 09:48 PM
Speaking as a furry who has had to explain this numerous times:
The furry fandom is large enough that it's nigh impossible to give a specific definition for "furry" that is applicable to a majority of furries. Asking for a short explanation of what furries are like is akin to asking for a short explanation of what Germans, Christians, 4channers, etc. are like. As a general rule of thumb, groups beyond a certain size can't be described succinctly without incorrectly labeling sizable portions of it.
The generally accepted definition of a furry is someone who thinks animals with anthropomorphic traits are neat. This can apply to art, literature, or, debatably, music. However, it's really up to the person in question to decide whether or not they're a furry. For example, there are plenty of people who draw anthropomorphic art yet aren't actually furries.
Notice that I haven't said anything yet about something that is nearly always instantly associated with furries: yiffing. That's because, contrary to popular belief, sex is far from central to the furry fandom. However, thanks to the fact that weird people get noticed more than regular people, the entire furry fandom has been labeled as a group of perverted fursuiters. Believe it or not, most furries don't most of their day walking around in fursuits or humping stuffed foxes. Isn't it funny how most furries find bestiality, yiffing, fursuiting, etc. just as disgusting as you do?
TL; DR: Saying that all furries are sex-starved freaks is like saying that all Muslims are terrorists, and makes you just as much of a bigot.
The furry fandom is large enough that it's nigh impossible to give a specific definition for "furry" that is applicable to a majority of furries. Asking for a short explanation of what furries are like is akin to asking for a short explanation of what Germans, Christians, 4channers, etc. are like. As a general rule of thumb, groups beyond a certain size can't be described succinctly without incorrectly labeling sizable portions of it.
The generally accepted definition of a furry is someone who thinks animals with anthropomorphic traits are neat. This can apply to art, literature, or, debatably, music. However, it's really up to the person in question to decide whether or not they're a furry. For example, there are plenty of people who draw anthropomorphic art yet aren't actually furries.
Notice that I haven't said anything yet about something that is nearly always instantly associated with furries: yiffing. That's because, contrary to popular belief, sex is far from central to the furry fandom. However, thanks to the fact that weird people get noticed more than regular people, the entire furry fandom has been labeled as a group of perverted fursuiters. Believe it or not, most furries don't most of their day walking around in fursuits or humping stuffed foxes. Isn't it funny how most furries find bestiality, yiffing, fursuiting, etc. just as disgusting as you do?
TL; DR: Saying that all furries are sex-starved freaks is like saying that all Muslims are terrorists, and makes you just as much of a bigot.
- #57
- 18 December 2010 - 10:58 PM
whf, on 18 December 2010 - 11:07 PM, said:
except muslims dont have a sexual fascination with animals hey hey hey
That's called bestiality, and it's not exactly a furry-specific thing. There are undoubtedly loads of Muslims who are into bestiality.
SuitCase, on 18 December 2010 - 11:10 PM, said:
It does seem strange that almost all furries I know are into furry porn, though. I don't buy the "far from central" thing if you look at the practical reality.
How many furries do you know?
Now how many furries are in the furry fandom?
This post has been edited by Pick Yer Poison: 18 December 2010 - 11:37 PM
- #60
- 18 December 2010 - 11:33 PM
Someone post the furriness pyramid from the Random Chat!
(Still nervous to announce this.)
According to that I am classified as a furry.
(Still nervous to announce this.)
According to that I am classified as a furry.
This post has been edited by TheLightorTheDark: 19 December 2010 - 12:13 AM
- #61
- 18 December 2010 - 11:48 PM
- ClosetLucy
- Member
ClosetLucy, on 18 December 2010 - 06:42 AM, said:
I like anthro art, I like to draw anthro art. That's about as far into "furry" as I'll go. Honestly though, I don't let furries bug me because...well...why would I? Unless their the annoying type of furry that does really dumb stuff like say "humans suck animals are better and we should kill humans" or something along the lines of that, they really just kind of sit their, draw furry stuff, and...idk. I just think getting mad, agitated, frustrated...-
Oh wow CL! That's a great argument! Way to be logical!
- #62
- 19 December 2010 - 12:49 AM
Furries are funny. I like them. 
- #63
- 19 December 2010 - 12:57 AM
- Maverik
- Moderator
Pick Yer Poison, on 18 December 2010 - 11:33 PM, said:
whf, on 18 December 2010 - 11:07 PM, said:
except muslims dont have a sexual fascination with animals hey hey hey
That's called bestiality, and it's not exactly a furry-specific thing. There are undoubtedly loads of Muslims who are into bestiality.
SuitCase, on 18 December 2010 - 11:10 PM, said:
It does seem strange that almost all furries I know are into furry porn, though. I don't buy the "far from central" thing if you look at the practical reality.
How many furries do you know?
Now how many furries are in the furry fandom?
Considering that one of my friends is the head of the Brisbane furry gathering group (aka, the guy who organises con's and get togethers like the upcomming furry rave on the gold coast) I've met quite a few. I don't think a single one of them wasn't into furry porn at some level.
Furries aren't nessesarily 'a sex thing' per se. But it's undenyably a very large aspect of the community.
Aslo, it's hardly worth trying to say tha 'furries are like muslims and russians in their difficulty to define' because the problem with that is that it's generally not hard to define the others.
Russians are people from Russia who's genetics aclimatise them to the cold, and the majority of them enjoy strong alcohole such as Vodca.
Muslims are people who worship Mohammid and have specific customs.
Furries are far more varied, and REALLY need to better define who does and soesn't belong to their community, rather than simply adopting the 'welcome all commers' approach.
- #64
- 19 December 2010 - 01:29 AM
I argue that the porn is the best part of any subculture. Or anything ever, for that matter.
This post has been edited by Scotch: 19 December 2010 - 01:55 AM
- #65
- 19 December 2010 - 01:55 AM
hahahahahah! 
And god said "Let there be porn!" and so there was the internet.
And god said "Let there be porn!" and so there was the internet.
- #66
- 19 December 2010 - 02:10 AM
- snooths
- Moderator
Pick Yer Poison, on 18 December 2010 - 11:33 PM, said:
whf, on 18 December 2010 - 11:07 PM, said:
except muslims dont have a sexual fascination with animals hey hey hey
That's called bestiality, and it's not exactly a furry-specific thing. There are undoubtedly loads of Muslims who are into bestiality.
hey buddy thats just racist
also
SuitCase, on 19 December 2010 - 02:13 AM, said:
Lol the internet is for PORN!!!
the internet is for PORN!!!
- #69
- 19 December 2010 - 04:47 AM
- ILB
- secretly a man
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hey buddy thats just racist
You were sarcastic, I know, but even so muslims are not a race. Muslims are followers of the Islamic religion. Judaism is the only religion that is directly tied to genetics (even though saying that all Jews are, ahem, Jews is a gross generalisation), because of the lack of conscious missionary work - Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, all of these span many of what we call "races". ^_^
- #71
- 19 December 2010 - 10:42 PM
Maverik, on 19 December 2010 - 01:29 AM, said:
Aslo, it's hardly worth trying to say tha 'furries are like muslims and russians in their difficulty to define' because the problem with that is that it's generally not hard to define the others.
Russians are people from Russia who's genetics aclimatise them to the cold, and the majority of them enjoy strong alcohole such as Vodca.
Muslims are people who worship Mohammid and have specific customs.
Furries are far more varied, and REALLY need to better define who does and soesn't belong to their community, rather than simply adopting the 'welcome all commers' approach.
Russians are people from Russia who's genetics aclimatise them to the cold, and the majority of them enjoy strong alcohole such as Vodca.
Muslims are people who worship Mohammid and have specific customs.
Furries are far more varied, and REALLY need to better define who does and soesn't belong to their community, rather than simply adopting the 'welcome all commers' approach.
Two things here.
First, you're not describing Russians and Muslims in the same way that furries are described. You're describing the Russian race and the Muslim religion, not the Russian people and the Muslim people. This is probably my fault for being a tad vague, so let me try again.
These are NOT blanket statements: Russians are people from Russia. Muslims are people who worship Mohammad. Furries are people who like anthropomorphic animals.
These ARE blanket statements: Russians are fat. Muslims like non-fiction literature. Furries focus mostly on sex.
Do you get what I'm saying here?
The second thing I want to point out is that the furry fandom doesn't exactly have any way of deciding who gets to be a furry or not. It's not like there's somewhere you need to go and get a "certified furry" badge before you're considered part of the fandom. Unlike a country with controllable borders, a race with clear visible features, or a religion with required duties of varying strictness, furries have no choice but to adopt a "take-all-comers" approach. The only way to keep someone out of the fandom is to convince them they're not a furry, so we can't really stop someone from becoming a furry if they're bent on doing so.
@ILB: You are one of the dozen or so people I have ever talked to who knows the difference between a race and a religion. Props for that. o/
This post has been edited by Pick Yer Poison: 20 December 2010 - 07:13 AM
- #72
- 20 December 2010 - 07:11 AM
- ILB
- secretly a man
Member
Hee~ I know ^_^
I missed this - Muslims are not as non-varied as you might think. There is a large difference between the Ayatollah in Iran and a Muslim on the streets of Burkina Faso. There are secularised and conservative Muslims, there are Sunnis and Shiites, there are Sufis and pedantic Muslims, and there are extremists (although they are very few) and peaceful worshippers. I would argue that they are just as varied as the furry fandom.
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Muslims are people who worship Mohammid and have specific customs.
I missed this - Muslims are not as non-varied as you might think. There is a large difference between the Ayatollah in Iran and a Muslim on the streets of Burkina Faso. There are secularised and conservative Muslims, there are Sunnis and Shiites, there are Sufis and pedantic Muslims, and there are extremists (although they are very few) and peaceful worshippers. I would argue that they are just as varied as the furry fandom.
- #74
- 20 December 2010 - 01:50 PM
- kekon
- Member
Shit, what happened to the topic 
is this how it works
Fancharacters->Furries->Religion
These discussions go hand in hand so something like that
Your going to have to link that post. I cant find it.
is this how it works
Fancharacters->Furries->Religion
These discussions go hand in hand so something like that
TheLightorTheDark, on 18 December 2010 - 11:48 PM, said:
Someone post the furriness pyramid from the Random Chat!
(Still nervous to announce this.)
According to that I am classified as a furry.
(Still nervous to announce this.)
According to that I am classified as a furry.
Your going to have to link that post. I cant find it.
- #75
- 21 December 2010 - 03:37 AM
- ILB
- secretly a man
Member
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These discussions go hand in hand so something like that
One thing you need to realise, Kekon, is that discussions online can only go in two directions:
1. It ends with Nazis, or
2. It ends with religion.
Either way, it also ends with flaming. ^_^
- #77
- 21 December 2010 - 05:21 PM
Lyucs said:
kekon said:
TheLightorTheDark said:
Someone post the furriness pyramid from the Random Chat!
(Still nervous to announce this.)
According to that I am classified as a furry.
(Still nervous to announce this.)
According to that I am classified as a furry.
Your going to have to link that post. I cant find it.
I'd like to see that pyramid too =D
I believe a moderator edited out that image in Random Chat. Probably just as well too, since I would have linked to the context of that discussion.
- #78
- 21 December 2010 - 07:03 PM
As long as the topic goes somewhere else at all, I'm happy. I hate topics that are on themselves.
- #79
- 21 December 2010 - 08:32 PM
- kekon
- Member
In other related news the FA site got attacked by hackers twice in the same day, the site was pulled for safety measures but the hackers got a hold of accounts, which caused a widespread account password reset.
this however would be sad news for anysite, it just dampened my day.
this however would be sad news for anysite, it just dampened my day.
- #80
- 22 December 2010 - 05:11 AM
- kekon
- Member
ILB, on 21 December 2010 - 05:21 PM, said:
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These discussions go hand in hand so something like that
One thing you need to realise, Kekon, is that discussions online can only go in two directions:
1. It ends with Nazis, or
2. It ends with religion.
Either way, it also ends with flaming. ^_^
I want this disscussion to end with this.
You know thats whats going to kill this conversation.
This post has been edited by kekon: 22 December 2010 - 05:24 AM
- #81
- 22 December 2010 - 05:22 AM
If a hot human girl wearing cat ears was attracted to me, I wouldn't care about the cat ears!
- #83
- 22 December 2010 - 05:20 PM
HEY!
The pyramid WAS on RC page 240 but isn't there anymore.
I think Lark posted it but don't quote me on that.
The pyramid WAS on RC page 240 but isn't there anymore.
I think Lark posted it but don't quote me on that.
This post has been edited by TheLightorTheDark: 22 December 2010 - 05:52 PM
- #84
- 22 December 2010 - 05:46 PM
Well, at least otherkin believe in something that stems from religions that have a heart-held belief that they themselves are the reincarnted forms of other creatures, whereas furries are just deluding themselves into believing that they are animals.
This post has been edited by Sammy: 22 December 2010 - 05:48 PM
- #85
- 22 December 2010 - 05:47 PM
- ILB
- secretly a man
Member
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So.... I'm just gonna ask cause I'm curious.... Human girls wearing cat ears, tails (and maybe collars). I'd think that'd fall under a general fetish as opposed to furry but, I'm not quite sure... Is it furry, or no?
I would say it is. Then again, many may disagree with me on that. ^_^
- #87
- 22 December 2010 - 09:35 PM
Lycan, on 23 December 2010 - 03:57 PM, said:
In light of all I've heard here, to me, furry is just like any other fetish around.
Except, it doesn't have to come with the sexual context, I guess.
Except, it doesn't have to come with the sexual context, I guess.
Furries are really just a large group of people with a common interest. That's probably the best way to sum it up.
- #89
- 23 December 2010 - 04:04 PM
- kekon
- Member
Pick Yer Poison, on 23 December 2010 - 04:04 PM, said:
Lycan, on 23 December 2010 - 03:57 PM, said:
In light of all I've heard here, to me, furry is just like any other fetish around.
Except, it doesn't have to come with the sexual context, I guess.
Except, it doesn't have to come with the sexual context, I guess.
Furries are really just a large group of people with a common interest. That's probably the best way to sum it up.
I agree with the combination of these two answers.
- #90
- 24 December 2010 - 10:33 AM
like its been said many time, what ever floats your boat man, what ever floats your boat. i have no problems with basically anyone's fetish (fetish falling under the literal term "any object, idea, etc., eliciting unquestioning reverence, respect, or devotion") though some things i do not agree with. pedophilia, bestiality and any other extreme fetishes are something that i frown upon but i accept because i cant and wont do anything to change others opinions. if your gay, Okay! it doesn't matter to me. your business is your no one else's, if your into furry, good for you, I'm glad that your happy with what you like.
just my thoughts, w/e
just my thoughts, w/e
This post has been edited by jaskobs: 26 December 2010 - 02:12 AM
- #91
- 26 December 2010 - 02:11 AM
- kekon
- Member
Jerk, on 26 December 2010 - 02:38 AM, said:
I condone sex between consenting adults and non-sentient objects. And possibly the dead, but I think you'd need prior consent or a third-party representative there.
I don't want any politicians between me and my sex. (LOL healthcare reform reference (If I made the joke properley))
All jokes aside, I think necrophilia is fukin weird man.
(lol, like I'm not weird in the slightest)
This post has been edited by kekon: 27 December 2010 - 11:33 AM
- #93
- 27 December 2010 - 11:31 AM
Maverick is right, I couldn't make a better description myself.
Don't bother asking me either, I'm just a harmless fox who likes to yiff
Don't bother asking me either, I'm just a harmless fox who likes to yiff
- #97
- 16 January 2011 - 02:35 PM
I sincerely hope you were joking there.
This post has been edited by Sammy: 16 January 2011 - 02:45 PM
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- 16 January 2011 - 02:44 PM
