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Goddamnit, snooths! Be a narcissist!

Yeah, I don't pretend that anything we talk about in these threads is new, or right, or even interesting to 99% of the people in the world. However, I think that it's an interesting discussion, and reading about what other people think is fun.

You're right snooths, it doesn't matter what we say here. The thing that does matter is that the people who are participating in the conversation are enjoying themselves.

look at all these words

ILB, on 02 January 2011 - 12:32 AM, said:

look im not saying people should quit communicating, and youre right in a way but this topic is such a boring and fruitless one
no one wins because everyone is stubborn and its just going to end in WELL MAYBE YOU MAKE A DECENT FEW POINTS BUT YOURE STILL COMPLETELY WRONG

ILB, on 02 January 2011 - 12:32 AM, said:

like what?

ILB, on 02 January 2011 - 12:32 AM, said:

exactly
no one is right
everyone loses
pointless

ILB, on 02 January 2011 - 12:32 AM, said:

yeah im "agnostic" even though i hate being labeled as one so fucking what
i dont like religion and i dont like atheism because becauseboth sides are completely confident theyre right and the other is wrong
that being said i lean towards atheism because i think religion was invented as a way for confused people to explain nature, but what the fuck do i know?

ILB, on 02 January 2011 - 12:32 AM, said:

it doesnt matter
theres no argument right now anyway and its just people restating the same shit
even if someone hears a new point theyre never going to change their minds fully because you dont fucking know/ cant fucking know
SO WHY BOTHER

ILB, on 02 January 2011 - 12:32 AM, said:

well i think its useless and stupid and people are especially confident about their religious beliefs and will never change their minds
the end

who even cares if theres a god anyway? if there isnt youll die alone and rot in the ground and if there is then youll die alone and live in eternity in a magic underground firey castle because you broke a rule on an invisible sky-mans list of 10 naughty things you shouldnt ever do
either way youre dying: your life is meaningless and insignificant
you are nothing
this is all there is so enjoy it while it lasts

ILB, on 02 January 2011 - 12:32 AM, said:

nevermind feel free to write a big textwall about how much you love jesus and watch people tear you apart and then retort and let them respond etc etc etc until the end of time

in other news i accomplished what i set out to do in this topic so heh

Tee hee~

Well, I guess I cannot... change your mind.

exactly

proving my point

A point to which I agreed; however, my own point still stands. ^_^

man there are so many levels or irony here right now its making me sick

Thank you for sharing your beliefs, snooths. Now then, on with the narcissism!

TL;DR'd the entire article, this is my opinion.

EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO THEIR OWN GOD-DAMN RELIGION. I'm an Atheist, I'm friends with another Atheist and a Christian. I also know several Muslims and a Mormon. AND NONE OF US HAVE TRIED TO GET ANYONE ELSE TO FOLLOW THEIR RELIGION. That is why we're friends/good aquaintances. If one of my friends tried to get me into their belief system, I'd drop them faster than a box containing all hope of MikeXSandy's relationship. (Bitch needs to step off Lucy's property...) I honestly despise when others think they need to get everyone else on their bandwagon, even if it's good-naturedly. I'm fine with people pointing out falws in religions, I do it myself, so long as they don't actively campaign to change my opinion. (Yes, I recognize that a lot of Atheists are holier-than-thou types. I'm working on beating them out of my faith.)

NO ONE SHOULD TAKE SOMETHING THEY DON'T ABSOLUTELY KNOW SERIOUSLY. Before any religitards say "But I DOOOOOOO absolutely know", I want proof. Show me a bloody hand extending out of the sky with a white hippie riding on it, and I may start to believe in Christianity again. (And yes, I know Jesus actually was a small brown Jew, just like everyone else in the Middle East at the time, but I'm trying to make a point). I do not care for "miracles" or anything like that, as they aren't solid scientific/physical evidence of any mono/polytheistic gods existing. No, holy scriptures don't count either. And while I'm on that...

I have heard multiple times religitards, especially Christians, saying that people shouldn't be doing this or that because the Bible or Qu'ran (Koran) or whatever says not to. On one such rant, I called them out about the Homosexuality debate. When they showed me the "proof" of god saying "Gays are bad", that is that god wanted Sodom and the Sodomites destroyed, I pointed out that the Sodomites were also murdering, stealing, etc. in excess (as well as apparently raping angels), and said that, as those are against the 10 Commandments, mabye that was why he wanted it gone. When they point out Leviticus 18:22, "Thou shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination", I pointed out Exodus 21:7, which says it's okay to sell your daughter into slavery, Exodus 35:2, which says that anyone who works on the Sabbath should be killed, Corinthians 11:14, "Doth not even nature itself teach you that if a man hath long hair, it is a shame unto him" (look at White Jesus), and Corinthians 11:19-24, which says a man should not go near a woman when she's on her period. (Paraphrasing those, except Cor 11:14). They said that those were in the Old Testament, I said so is the only pseudo-reference to homosexuality being bad, and so are the 10 Commandments. At which point they promptly began crossing themselves and ran away.

ONE BAD EXAMPLE DOES NOT DOOM THE FAITH. Tell me all Muslims are bad because of 9/11, I say all Christians are bad because of WBC.

Now, I'm not trying to stop people from believing in something up there. I just want people to recognise the bad parts of their religion as well as the good. Leave me alone and I leave you alone, kapeesh?

Oh, and it would be good to remember:

I walk this Earth, obey its laws, keep its peace and freedoms, and have a strict moral code. (So strict that I cannot play an evil character in videogames. When I tried nuking Megaton in Fallout 3, I started feeling nauseous.)I do all this without having a greater being looking over my shoulder. I do not believe in something up there, nor do I hope to in the future. I am an Atheist, and I am not some raving lunatic. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people like me, we grow in number every day, and we're dead tired of being pushed around.

I didn't mean that last paragraph as a threat. Just make of it what you will, like you do with your holy book.

TL;DR. I dislike people making others believe in their religion, and the Bible has some really bad stuff in it.
DERP

Gaytheists, Christo-Nazis, Terrorists and one Momo.

And a side of fries.

I've never seen a hand coming out of the sky, but I did see a giant zipper once.

*insert a bunch of rage here*

even though people would probably interpret as the biggest anti in the universe, i have quite a number of religious friends in real life. I even palled around with Mormons without being all "GRRRR YOUR RELIGION RAGE", so I guess yeah I guess I share Dorp's sentiment. Only I'm more of a bitter bitch about it

Aw I was kinda looking forward to an epic cage match flame war to the death.... with kittens....

This post has been edited by Rawrdinosaur: 02 January 2011 - 05:36 AM

I believe in a higher power that created everything, even that there exists a heaven and hell and I am a firm believer in the science of evolution. I pretty much believe that some higher power thought "hey, wouldn't it be crazy to make the universe?" and then BAM! there it all was and evolution took it's course. Then things get complicated for me and my head hurts.

I worship the nameless things that caper in the yawning maw of the void. n_n

SOMEONE MAKE A BLOOD SACRIFICE QUICK, THE SUN IS GOING OUT!

In the beginning there was nothing. Which exploded.

This is a discussion, not a debate, therefore no one has to be proven right or wrong for it to be a success. At the very least this thread helps to shows the character of some members, a lot can be told about someone by their beliefs.

Also some people have directly said that they like to hear others oppinions, so there are sure to also be others who enjoy this thread.

This post has been edited by matty_batty0: 02 January 2011 - 12:00 PM

But I could prove you all right or wrong so easily. By killing you.

This post has been edited by Scotch: 02 January 2011 - 12:25 PM

That wouldn't invalidate his views.

Oh, he is just making a bit of a passive-aggressive joke. He is not being serious at all. ^_^

sorry
i don't believe in religion
iam am sorry if this offends any one
it just i can't follow something that i can't make sense of

one i can't stand some views like:
gays go to hell
or you can't cut your hair


i don't see any proof so i myself can't believe but of course religions have followers

I'm atheist. I don't mind religion. I just dislike very religious people who try to shove their religion down your throat. This man tried to sell me this holy book I didn't know about on my way home from school. -_-;

Wow, there are a bunch of atheists on this board - that's kind of an interesting pattern. I wonder what explains it?

If I were to choose a label though, I'd call myself an atheist with an open mind.

From Dark:

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I still say that atheism is too depressing.

Lark, on 02 January 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

you keep posting on cat comic forums there buddy

(nameless), on 02 January 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:

That's a problem, isn't it. For me, the only solution is to try to think of ways to make a difference while I'm around.

You know, I actually found non-existence to be quite comfortable. I imagine it will be just as comfortable for the next 13.7 billion years.

matty_batty0, on 02 January 2011 - 11:58 AM, said:

Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins. If you do not acknowledge this, you will go to a place where you are constantly raped by beings made of fire and feces.

Starwatcher, on 02 January 2011 - 06:02 PM, said:

I'd rather there not be a God, personal or otherwise, as I don't want even the remote possibility that something with that much power could notice me. I have no problem just passing through from one void to another.

(nameless), on 02 January 2011 - 05:48 PM, said:

How can you make an argument based on an anthropic projection?

I got in trouble today for calling my sister a moon-speaking, snake-handling, lamb-sacrificing sky worshiper because she belongs to a psychotic Baptist sect. Her ex-boyfriend saw a man walking across the street with a limp. He got out of his truck, put his hand on the man's head and began praying to Jesus for the power to heal him. This is a true story.

Jerk, on 02 January 2011 - 08:30 PM, said:

Did the man run away screaming?

He quit limping, but I'd be encouraged to walk straighter just to keep the crazies off me too.

Any Guthix fans here neutrality all the way!!!

Note:I played way to much runescape as a kid

Catholic.

I think everyone can go to 'heaven', regardless of their religion (or lack of).

but there are some things I disagree with my religion's position about certain things.

Religion - Scapegoat, Gullibility, Explanation.

That is all.

(As if you can't tell, I'm an atheist.)

whf, on 02 January 2011 - 01:20 AM, said:

Like if it had not been for the quote...

"this whole thread is, and will continue to be, people flaunting their insignificant opinions on an incredibly broad subject which is debated and argued every fucking day and will be forever."

... Then I would have never been convinced that I should stay the hell out of religion threads. I can't fight religion so I should just ignore it.

Cyao.

I think we should change this to a form about our farvorite greek/norse/roman/Egyption god.

Hmmmmm mine is probably Loki or Anubis

I say if it works for you, doesn't hurt others, doesn't force others to believe what you believe, then go for it. I never really cared. I don't feel compelled to label myself anything. I think it's nice how people can come together over a religion, but it isn't always for good reasons. I just like to have good morals on my own. I choose not to believe in anything and I am ok with that.

Side note: Loki is awesome. Love to read Norse mythology

Odin is awesome, Loki is an asshole and Thor let them dress him like a woman to get his hammer back, complete with fake breasts.

Jerk, on 02 January 2011 - 11:33 PM, said:

I liked the old American Indian myth about coyote were he put like slices of ham in his shirt for fake breasts the coyote myths are funny and interesting.

I still think we should talk about quilting.

Scotch, on 03 January 2011 - 02:30 AM, said:

How do you make a quilt? I've always wondered.

I don't like quilts they are too heavy and not flexible enough I move a lot in my sleep and that important to me.

A quilt is just a Frankenstein blanket. If you use the types of blankets that you like, you should be able to make a light, flexible one. I also move a lot in my sleep but I prefer quilts. They keep me from getting too restless.

This post has been edited by Scotch: 03 January 2011 - 02:51 AM

I'd prefer to sleep with nothing if it wasn't so cold and weird I'll stick with my light blanket.

Incidentally people, mainly for the Atheists.

Atheism is a belief. A belief in nothing, but a belief nonetheless
JUST SAYIN! (A lot of atheists complain about "believing" being foolish, yet when you look at it, there is no evidence for OR against any deity/etc. As such, Atheism is a belief, and anyone using that as a reason for being an Atheist, is a massive fucking hypocrite!)

I was raised catholic. I still practice aspects of Catholicism such as going to mass, the sacraments, etc...but I've been having increasing issues with the institutions of Christianity. We Christians are supposedly accepting and nonjudgmental, but at the same time many of us shun those that are either homosexual, have a certain lifestyle, or just have a different faith in general (ESPECIALLY those who are atheists). I haven't been going to church nearly as much and have even thought about leaving my church to go "find myself". Religion is such a big part of me while growing up though, and in only a few years I'd be nearing my mid 20's - so it's hard for me to dismiss it right away. I still believe in the existence of some "God", whatever you wanna call it/him/her/etc. Overall I have a high tolerance for anyone of any belief and I actually enjoy speaking with others about varying religious/nonreligious things. I'm particularly fascinated with Roman/Greek mythology. I only have a problem with others once they start trying to force their beliefs down my throat.

Oh and I believe in evolution

This post has been edited by Aika: 03 January 2011 - 11:27 PM

I really dont care about religion. I believe people shall believe in whatever they want. when I do have troubles is when religion mixes with politics. think about a group that says "we are right, everyone else is wrong" have political influences in your country's government. i say thats a great danger to democracy, i think

Aika, on 03 January 2011 - 11:26 PM, said:

I know I'm sticking my nose where it doesn't really belong, here, but hearing you say this worries me. If all you intend to do is question your beliefs then, by all means, go for it. Searching for the Truth is an admirable thing, and something everyone should do at some point in their lives. Investigate every religion you can, including the one you were born into, and scrutinize each of their doctrines and customs zealously. Expose them all to the crucible of human reason--discarding what proves to be false and holding fast to what proves to be true.

If, however, by "finding [your]self" you mean "finding the faith I fit into best", keep in mind that no one starts out with pre-set beliefs. Your beliefs are dynamic. Ever-changing. Everything you believe was either taught to you by someone else or developed independently by you. You've changed your beliefs before, and you will likely change them again in the future. You can see, then, why trying to find a faith that fits your current beliefs would only be a temporary fix. Instead of "finding yourself", your time would be better spent "creating or forming yourself". Search for the objective Truth via the exercise of human reason. Once you're convinced you've found it, conform yourself and your beliefs to it as well as you can.

In short, instead of just falling into a faith that fits you in your current state, seek out the faith that is objectively true and make yourself fit into it.

Where you and your beliefs are always in flux, the Truth is eternal and unchanging. Ergo, the Truth can serve as a solid foundation around which to build your life. The solid foundation that your fluctuating whims-of-the-moment can never be.


As for your worries over the behavior of your brethren....I can see why their actions bother you. All the same, I hope you can find some solace in the fact that [Here I speak from one believer to another. Those of other faiths, feel free to skip over this bit.], though God and His teachings are perfect, His people are not. We screw up. A lot. Keep in mind that this doesn't invalidate the truth of God and His teachings in the slightest. Rather, it is a sign of His patience. Because He loves all mankind and would never abandon any of us, God is patient with us and slowly works to remove the sin from our lives, including our hypocrisy and hatred, even as we spit on His commands and mock His love with our wicked actions. Pray that you can bare their inhospitable behavior with the same patience that God bears it with, and try to turn them from their actions by leading a life better conformed to God's Will. Show them how a proper Christian acts regarding these things, and pray that they follow your example.

If you need to, you may want to point out the following verses to the offending brethren:

RSV - Catholic Edition - 1 John 4:20-21 said:

If you have any specific questions, I'd be glad to hear them. You could PM them to me, if you'd prefer to keep it private. I'm not sure I'd be much help, but I'll gladly take a shot at any questions you come up with. =)

May God bless you, and guide you.

[/"one believer to another" bit]

Aika, on 03 January 2011 - 11:26 PM, said:

Awesome! =3

Whatever you think about God, not believing in evolution is really silly, with all the evidence all around us.

Besides, who's to say that God didn't use evolution to make stuff?