Just wondering what you all (especially the American readers) think about the recent shooting of Arizona representative Gabrielle Giffords and 20+ others...
http://www.salon.com...bio_background/
I'm hearing all kinds of crazy theories regarding what provoked the gunman Jared Loughner, such as the "targets" used to demonstrate threats to gun rights by Palin. I'm no fan of her, but I highly doubt it was to provoke that kind of response.
Bloggers blame Palin and Tea Party: http://www.weeklysta...P/TWSFPView.asp
What do you guys think?
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Shooting in Tuscon, Arizona
- CaptainBaconMan
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Obviously it's some ridiculous plot involving obscure mathematical theorems.
- #5
- 11 January 2011 - 02:48 AM
Attributing the actions of an individual to any number of sources, whatever their potential influence, is absurd in the extreme. The act does not seem to have been rational; why should the explanation for it be?
People were killed. Either you sympathize with the general human condition and feel sorrow, or you don't. To try and cage this event, the factors that may have contributed to it, and its effects inside the political sphere is inane and monstrous.
People were killed. Either you sympathize with the general human condition and feel sorrow, or you don't. To try and cage this event, the factors that may have contributed to it, and its effects inside the political sphere is inane and monstrous.
- #8
- 11 January 2011 - 03:10 AM
- CaptainBaconMan
- Member
Silentvelcro, on 11 January 2011 - 03:10 AM, said:
Attributing the actions of an individual to any number of sources, whatever their potential influence, is absurd in the extreme. The act does not seem to have been rational; why should the explanation for it be?
People were killed. Either you sympathize with the general human condition and feel sorrow, or you don't. To try and cage this event, the factors that may have contributed to it, and its effects inside the political sphere is inane and monstrous.
People were killed. Either you sympathize with the general human condition and feel sorrow, or you don't. To try and cage this event, the factors that may have contributed to it, and its effects inside the political sphere is inane and monstrous.
Because people have to have something to blame. It's pretty much how society works, especially when they themselves are to blame, then they have to find something else to pin the blame on.
- #9
- 11 January 2011 - 03:18 AM
I'm not religious but i hope the Rep. Giffords and the other 14 injured people are able to recover. Rep. will be permanently handicapped and incapable of speech. for the six that died it's heartbreaking. It hit close to home because of how he could have killed a 9 year old girl, name a child of hope after being born on 9/11. the agony of human interaction.
- #10
- 11 January 2011 - 03:39 AM
CaptainBaconMan, on 11 January 2011 - 03:18 AM, said:
Because people have to have something to blame. It's pretty much how society works, especially when they themselves are to blame, then they have to find something else to pin the blame on.
The question was rhetorical.
Rationale that prescribes to the idea that the normal, popular response has validity is a slippery slope and, coincidentally, tends to function as pretty lame excuse. Of course people want to placate themselves. That doesn't mean no one should point out how absurd and grotesque their methodology is; you have to tell people that they are being idiotic. How else are they going to know?
- #11
- 11 January 2011 - 03:39 AM
- CaptainBaconMan
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SuitCase, on 11 January 2011 - 04:35 AM, said:
Who woulda thought most people who post in political topics on webcomic forums are teenage know-nothings with lame philosophical points to prove
YEAH I KNOW RIGHT HAHAHAHA
- #14
- 11 January 2011 - 05:10 AM
- CaptainBaconMan
- Member
Great, they are already starting to blame this shooting on video games. GOD DAMN YOU AMERICAN EDUCATION SYSTEM, TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO UNDERSTAND CAUSALITY.
- #16
- 11 January 2011 - 07:22 AM
- Moosack
- Member
CaptainBaconMan, on 11 January 2011 - 07:22 AM, said:
Great, they are already starting to blame this shooting on video games. GOD DAMN YOU AMERICAN EDUCATION SYSTEM, TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO UNDERSTAND CAUSALITY.
I liked it better when they were blaming themselves...
- #17
- 11 January 2011 - 12:31 PM
SuitCase, on 11 January 2011 - 04:35 AM, said:
Who woulda thought most people who post in political topics on webcomic forums are teenage know-nothings with lame philosophical points to prove
A stunning revelation, I know. However, even the teenage know-nothing is preferable to the aloof individuals who claim some that special intelligence or arrogance inspired indifference entitles them to be derisive and mocking instead of contributing to what could have been a conversation.
This post has been edited by Silentvelcro: 11 January 2011 - 02:11 PM
- #18
- 11 January 2011 - 02:02 PM
- bigdogstan
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CaptainBaconMan, on 11 January 2011 - 07:22 AM, said:
Great, they are already starting to blame this shooting on video games. GOD DAMN YOU AMERICAN EDUCATION SYSTEM, TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO UNDERSTAND CAUSALITY.
really?
well of course its not
you can't blame everything on video gamesits a just a lazy excuse for the growing loss of human value in society
(some people should be shielded from violent films/games/books all together)
i feel awful for the people who lots people to that nutter
- #19
- 11 January 2011 - 05:07 PM
Ah, so guns should be a privilege and not a right?
Repeal the Second Amendment. ^_^
Repeal the Second Amendment. ^_^
- #21
- 11 January 2011 - 06:03 PM
- CaptainBaconMan
- Member
Criminals can still get guns when it's against the law to own them. I'm not saying gun control can't ever work, it's just that in America right now it wouldn't be very effective. We don't have the infrastructure to enforce those laws, and at the moment those laws would prevent honest people from owning guns for recreation or self defense.
This post has been edited by CaptainBaconMan: 11 January 2011 - 08:47 PM
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- 11 January 2011 - 08:40 PM
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