Taeshi, on 19 January 2011 - 01:46 PM, said:
How am I jumping into conclusions? I'm making a statement I've heard many people say in the past, this argument isn't new. And I didn't edit your post, or omit anything. That is all you said, unedited or anything. So don't accuse me for jumping into conclusions. If that's the case then amend your argument.
Just because you've met some well-adjusted thirteen year olds in the past doesn't mean they don't know what the hell they're doing in the long-run. This is a general protection.
The difference is that I made the argument for discussion sake, so that we could come up with better argument "against" people who would go around getting logical reasons why children should 'be allowed/engage' in sexual activities.
You didn't edit, or omit, really, but anyways read more than what I wrote. I mean, my position is setting the underage limit age up or down in accordance to each individual person through psychological tests, in a possible future. Since today that is impossible, I agree with setting the underage limit due to medians or simply by definition.
Actually, I think it's easier to find overage adults that are not "prepared" than people with less than 18 years (legal age in Brazil) that are.
And I think it's awfully stupid here that if you're 18yo and have sex with a 17yo, you are against the law >_<"
Anyways, if I'm against, the only way you could have inferred
that I support underage sex (13 yo? Madness! I'd be willing to give you some credit on your statement against me if you were talking to 16yo >_<) is if you read more than what I wrote. How's that not jumping?
Though, for argument's sake, if there was a completely secure, fail proof way to determine if that 13 yo is totally mature, both in mind AND body, and had all the psychological patterns of a fully, capable, adult person, all arguments people did would crumble FOR THAT 13YO. NO generalization.
But both the fail proof method AND the mature 13yo are almost impossible to find. So, I'm OK for underage definition.
Susan, on 19 January 2011 - 03:16 PM, said:
You do not become homosexual. You are born homosexual.
I do believe that you can be born homosexual.
But I do have inclinations in the "you can become" homosexual as well. Every little experience in our life (environmental factors) affect our choices, why shouldn't it affect people's sexuality?
Please keep in mind that I'm not saying that children raised by gay couples are more likely to become gay,
though if being gay was to be fully accepted in our society, that wouldn't be an issue.