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Abortion A disscusion

Poll: Your thoughts on abortion (71 member(s) have cast votes)

Are you for or against it

  1. For! (43 votes [60.56%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 60.56%

  2. I don't care (12 votes [16.90%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.90%

  3. Against. (16 votes [22.54%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.54%

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  • Lycan
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Yes, I did sound like blaming rich people. That is, as you said, unfair. :unsure:
I'm all in for education and stricter laws (though 'stricter' has to have its bounds!) to deal with ignorant, lazy and greedy people =D

Yes, allowing it would serve to reduce population levels.
But there are other ways and I think it's (abortion) a bad thing =3

I think I get your point, though. :x
  • #151

I'm just going to leave this here:

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Anti-abortion billboard in New York sparks outrage - Telegraph
  • #152

I can imagine why people would be pissed about that.
  • #153

Yeah, but it was a black preacher and his congregation that put up that sign.
  • #154

View PostJerk, on 24 February 2011 - 05:46 PM, said:

Yeah, but it was a black preacher and his congregation that put up that sign.


That makes it better and worse, all at the same time.
  • #155

All I care is if you people know the difference between pro-life and anti-abortion.
  • #156

That'd make you...against abortion in favor of having the babies killed anyway? Hm. Sounds like an effective deterrent. Nothing says "Stop Procreating" like a visual demonstration.
  • #157

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Abortion used as a practice for the sake of only 'correcting' pregnancies is cruel, imo. If the number of people in the world is becoming a problem, it would be better to prevent people from ever having babies.


Better? Yes. Realistic? No. Some people will always fuck up, and birth control isn't 100% effective. Plus people change their minds.

I'm happy with aborting fetuses; they aren't people, and that's all that really matters.

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Also, I used to think that most of the problems in today's world was caused by excessive population. I mean, starvation, poverty and many things Mr. Meouth listed previously.
But someone sometime got me thinking. Those problems are not new. They have always been there. 'Too many people' has nothinglittle to do with it.


False, actually. Too many people has EVERYTHING to do with it.

The truth is that, as technology progressed, the number of people we could support also increased. The Green Revolution is why we aren't in a Malthusian crisis right now - we gained the ability to grow massively more food.

The catch is that we have now surpassed the carrying capacity of the planet. Over time, the amount of resources consumed by each person have increased, which is why our standard of living has gone up. Today, we are using up resources faster than they are naturally replenished, and in the case of some resources, like water, this is a huge problem - once you suck all the water out of an aquifer, or once you have melted the glaciers, your water level not only drops, it drops below what it was PRIOR to the environmental destruction!

Anytime you see this:

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Our real problem is profit distribution. Rich people are just too fucking rich and poor people, while 'stupid enough' to have more and more children, get poorer every day. (and lack of proper education, at least where I live, is why poor people are 'stupid', so it's not entirely their fault)
I am not saying everyone should earn the same, but looking at people starving while others throw out food?
Before we treat those issues of 'Rich people wasting while Poor people starve' (applied not only for food), we can't think of dealing with global population in means of having people die.


Well, to balance population growth, you either need to lower the birth rate or raise the death rate. Letting those people starve may seem cruel, but its better than feeding them so they can produce yet more children; look at Africa for a great example of why you shouldn't ship people with above-replacement fertility rates food.

High standards of living is a good thing; I want to thrive, not survive. That means fewer people to share resources with, and I'm good with that.

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Btw, in order to increase the number of humans, a person has to have more than 1 child. That means that if a couple have 2 children, they won't be increasing the population, they'll just replace themselves when they die.


That's untrue, actually, due to demographic momentum, among other things.

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That'd make you...against abortion in favor of having the babies killed anyway? Hm. Sounds like an effective deterrent. Nothing says "Stop Procreating" like a visual demonstration.


I thought he was just hungry. Baby meat is pretty delicious, after all. Its like pork, but much more tender.
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View PostTitanium Dragon, on 25 February 2011 - 12:46 AM, said:

Baby meat is pretty delicious, after all. Its like pork, but much more tender.
Soylent Veal :D
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