I went back into the archives the other day and read the first few chapters again, and ya know what I did? I laugfed my ass off. But that made me think, what has this comic come to? It's not funny anymore! These chapters recently, have been nothing but bad crap happening! I've herd the advice "torture the protagonist" by this is rediculous! It's really gone from a sclice of life, to a slice of the dark side. I don't know how you plan to fix this, or if you plan to fix it at all, but I know you can think of something.
One complaint :(
- SushiJaguar
- Internet Tough Guy<br>P.S. I roleplay as a medieval furry
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C-c-combo breakerrrr
- #4
- 11 February 2011 - 03:02 PM
- CriticalQuit
- has a theory about Mike being gay
Member 
If a comic is episodic, there will be drama in addition to the comedy. Simple rule of comics.
- #7
- 11 February 2011 - 06:08 PM
- Hen Barrison
- Member
I certainly hope so king.
However Tae, as a rivewer, isint it my job to tell you what your doing wrong?
And critical quit, what I'm saying is that it's been to long.
But, I can't say I'm not smiling because of that gif...
However Tae, as a rivewer, isint it my job to tell you what your doing wrong?
And critical quit, what I'm saying is that it's been to long.
But, I can't say I'm not smiling because of that gif...
- #8
- 11 February 2011 - 06:33 PM
- Bass
- Member
Not everything has to be comedy. There are times when there must be drama and/or angst. I've had my bad times and they've lasted months. Compare that to Lucy, who's been having problems in HS for what, a couple of weeks (in her most recent phase)? For all we know, Taeshi might be planning something funny for the next chapter. This could just be the major angst phase.
- #10
- 11 February 2011 - 06:46 PM
- Mikaro
- Member
Here's a link now just so you know what I'm referring to: First Law of Tragicomedies - Television Tropes & Idioms
Also, a reviewer's job is not to say "I don't like this so you're doing it wrong so fix it." It's to say what they feel about a work, give support for their reasoning, and let others reflect on it. By that definition, you are not a reviewer. Just a fan who doesn't really understand the tagline: "a comic of love, drama and emotional cartoon animals." Notice how comedy isn't present?
Also, a reviewer's job is not to say "I don't like this so you're doing it wrong so fix it." It's to say what they feel about a work, give support for their reasoning, and let others reflect on it. By that definition, you are not a reviewer. Just a fan who doesn't really understand the tagline: "a comic of love, drama and emotional cartoon animals." Notice how comedy isn't present?
- #11
- 11 February 2011 - 07:16 PM
- Hen Barrison
- Member
ChewySmokey, on 11 February 2011 - 06:35 PM, said:
high school + puberty = drama
It also = lol
@bass, I'm not saying that it should be all comedy.
@Mik, I never said that. I understand that it may have come off that way, but everyone here should take this a bit more at face value than I think they are. And just because comedy isint in the decription dosent mean that it's non-existant.
This post has been edited by Hen Barrison: 11 February 2011 - 07:47 PM
- #12
- 11 February 2011 - 07:35 PM
ahh I miss high school... being so foolish was bliss
- #14
- 11 February 2011 - 07:43 PM
- FireFang1331
- Member
Hen Barrison, on 11 February 2011 - 06:33 PM, said:
However Tae, as a rivewer, isint it my job to tell you what your doing wrong?
Wait wait wait...did you just say your suppose to tell the WRITER what their doing wrong?
As a story writer myself I personally can know how much that phrase PROBABLY pissed Taeshi off. (not saying it actually did so don't kill me Taeshi if it didn't I'm just speaking from my point of view of what I suspect)If what is present in the work was intensional, on purpose and planned then it's not WRONG. It's exactly how it's suppose to be according to the writer, who is the creator of the story. While you have your opinion of what you think would be 'better' or what you THINK should be done, you're not the writer, there for you can not say something is wrong with the work. Your not creating the story...how do you know it's not suppose to be there? If it wasn't suppose to be there THEN it would be wrong, but seeing as I'm fairly 99.999% sure it's SUPPOSE to be there, it's not wrong.
I'm sorry to possibly sound like a bitch but it's not your job to tell the writer what they are doing wrong in their story. Giving feed back on what you like better or worse? Hell yeah that's always nice (personally) as a writer, but being told you're doing something flat out wrong by your readers is just rude and insulting at times.
Once again sorry for going off...I just felt the need to say something...hope you don't get angry Taeshi...also that pic/gif you posted was epic win
- #15
- 11 February 2011 - 07:45 PM
- Mikaro
- Member
DangerIce, on 11 February 2011 - 07:42 PM, said:
Isn't BCB supposed to be made of delicious drama, and broken hearts (Which go quite well with some butter when broiled JUUUSTTT right..) and stuff? I thought the comedy was supposed to lead up into the drama..... WAS I JUST WRONG 
@Hen: What he^ said.
- #16
- 11 February 2011 - 07:52 PM
- Junior Boomer
- BCI Member
Hen Barrison, on 11 February 2011 - 06:33 PM, said:
However Tae, as a rivewer, isint it my job to tell you what your doing wrong?
It's not even what she's doing wrong, it's your opinion that there should be more comedy, just like it's my opinion that the comedy was lame and unfunny and that all the drama is very interesting and makes for great times. All this is what Fire said.
This post has been edited by Junior Boomer: 11 February 2011 - 07:56 PM
- #17
- 11 February 2011 - 07:56 PM
- Hen Barrison
- Member
@danger ice, well your certainly not wrong, but I think your not completely right either.
@Fire fang, no offence, but you just went off like a rocket. Although I can't say I blame you...
You are moslty right, my intentions were there as a sort of critisim, however in reflection, the execution was shit. Wich most of the time is my downfall. What I really wanted to say is that the period of drama has gone on a bit to long, in my opinon. Not to mention, I consived this at like one in the morning, and posted it at 9:10. It's no supries to me now that I came off as an ass then.
But really, I think that tae hadled it the best way possible, with a gif.
@Fire fang, no offence, but you just went off like a rocket. Although I can't say I blame you...
You are moslty right, my intentions were there as a sort of critisim, however in reflection, the execution was shit. Wich most of the time is my downfall. What I really wanted to say is that the period of drama has gone on a bit to long, in my opinon. Not to mention, I consived this at like one in the morning, and posted it at 9:10. It's no supries to me now that I came off as an ass then.
But really, I think that tae hadled it the best way possible, with a gif.
This post has been edited by Hen Barrison: 11 February 2011 - 08:06 PM
- #18
- 11 February 2011 - 08:02 PM
- CriticalQuit
- has a theory about Mike being gay
Member
It's supposed to be drama with some comedy to lighten it and make it not as depressing.
If you want 100% comedy, go read Cyanide & Happiness and SMBC. This is a serious comic.
If you want 100% comedy, go read Cyanide & Happiness and SMBC. This is a serious comic.
- #19
- 11 February 2011 - 08:04 PM
- Toastyjester
- BCI Member
Jerk, on 11 February 2011 - 08:32 PM, said:
Lucy confesses her love for Mike.
To reject her, he hits her in the face with a banana cream pie.
To reject her, he hits her in the face with a banana cream pie.
Then while walking away he slips on a banana peel, the LAUGH NOW sign lights up, and cue audience laughter.
- #21
- 11 February 2011 - 09:02 PM
To be fair, it was the comedy which initially sold me on reading the comic. Specifically, Blur's statement that Lucy and Mike should just perform coitus already.
Of course, the comic progressed into drama later on, but that's just fine with me. I read a number of dramatic comics, including at least one (College Roomies from Hell!!!) which progressed from comedic storylines to heavy drama in much the same way as BCB did.
Of course, the comic progressed into drama later on, but that's just fine with me. I read a number of dramatic comics, including at least one (College Roomies from Hell!!!) which progressed from comedic storylines to heavy drama in much the same way as BCB did.
- #22
- 11 February 2011 - 09:49 PM
It still has it's comedic moments. (Even in the current incentive, which is... creepy.)
Look at Rachel in the current chapter, or David thinking it was a great idea to touch Lucy's baps when they were looking for Mike. Look through the drama and there's still comedic gold.
EDIT: It's really gone from a sclice of life, to a slice of the dark side.
gone from a slice of life, to a slice of the dark side.
a slice of the dark side.
the dark side.
"And if your head explodes with dark forbodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon."
^ Pretty much sums up the dark side of the comic.
Look at Rachel in the current chapter, or David thinking it was a great idea to touch Lucy's baps when they were looking for Mike. Look through the drama and there's still comedic gold.
EDIT: It's really gone from a sclice of life, to a slice of the dark side.
gone from a slice of life, to a slice of the dark side.
a slice of the dark side.
the dark side.
"And if your head explodes with dark forbodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon."
^ Pretty much sums up the dark side of the comic.
This post has been edited by JerryTheRacecarDriver: 11 February 2011 - 10:52 PM
- #23
- 11 February 2011 - 10:48 PM
romantic comedy
starts out with laughs
meets problem
gets more serious with montage of two lovers thinking of eachother
laughs and couple is together
We are just in stage 3
starts out with laughs
meets problem
gets more serious with montage of two lovers thinking of eachother
laughs and couple is together
We are just in stage 3
- #24
- 11 February 2011 - 11:20 PM
It could be evolving into stage 4 actually, but ye never know.
And if someone makes a Pokemon joke, I will personally come to your house, kick you in the nuts/boob and strangle you. Nicely.
And if someone makes a Pokemon joke, I will personally come to your house, kick you in the nuts/boob and strangle you. Nicely.
- #25
- 11 February 2011 - 11:22 PM
- Susan
- BCI Member
- harlot and pretend virgin and quitter
I have a complaint.
This Augustus/Alejandro business. This is a high school, not a criminal organization and if Augustus is working with someone for some stupid criminal plot, then that is just completely and utterly retarded.
They are teenagers, not criminal masterminds.
This Augustus/Alejandro business. This is a high school, not a criminal organization and if Augustus is working with someone for some stupid criminal plot, then that is just completely and utterly retarded.
They are teenagers, not criminal masterminds.
- #26
- 11 February 2011 - 11:43 PM
Well, the situation over here in Ireland back during the troubles was that people joined a "terrorist" group, some as young as 15, so it could make sense actually.
- #27
- 11 February 2011 - 11:47 PM
- Susan
- BCI Member
- harlot and pretend virgin and quitter
JerryTheRacecarDriver, on 11 February 2011 - 11:47 PM, said:
Well, the situation over here in Ireland back during the troubles was that people joined a "terrorist" group, some as young as 15, so it could make sense actually.
This is America. Not Ireland.
- #28
- 11 February 2011 - 11:47 PM
- Meowth
- Please go easy on me. I don't like critique. Or my title.
Member 
Susan, on 11 February 2011 - 11:43 PM, said:
This Augustus/Alejandro business. This is a high school, not a criminal organization and if Augustus is working with someone for some stupid criminal plot, then that is just completely and utterly retarded.
They are teenagers, not criminal masterminds.
They are teenagers, not criminal masterminds.
While I think the whole 'criminal mastermind' thing is a good point, and Augustus's psychological 'abilities' have been exaggerated quite a bit, but I assure you that high school's are littered with crime (no pun intended). Between gangs, drugs, and racial tension, they are a meeting ground for the scum of the earth.
- #29
- 11 February 2011 - 11:48 PM
Susan, on 11 February 2011 - 11:47 PM, said:
JerryTheRacecarDriver, on 11 February 2011 - 11:47 PM, said:
Well, the situation over here in Ireland back during the troubles was that people joined a "terrorist" group, some as young as 15, so it could make sense actually.
This is America. Not Ireland.
Both have idiot teenagers who need to feel important.
- #30
- 11 February 2011 - 11:53 PM
- CriticalQuit
- has a theory about Mike being gay
Member
Susan, on 11 February 2011 - 11:43 PM, said:
I have a complaint.
This Augustus/Alejandro business. This is a high school, not a criminal organization and if Augustus is working with someone for some stupid criminal plot, then that is just completely and utterly retarded.
They are teenagers, not criminal masterminds.
This Augustus/Alejandro business. This is a high school, not a criminal organization and if Augustus is working with someone for some stupid criminal plot, then that is just completely and utterly retarded.
They are teenagers, not criminal masterminds.
They're a street gang.
Not the goddamn mafia, but still, a street gang. Is that really so hard to believe?
- #35
- 12 February 2011 - 02:50 AM
CriticalQuit, on 12 February 2011 - 02:50 AM, said:
Susan, on 11 February 2011 - 11:43 PM, said:
I have a complaint.
This Augustus/Alejandro business. This is a high school, not a criminal organization and if Augustus is working with someone for some stupid criminal plot, then that is just completely and utterly retarded.
They are teenagers, not criminal masterminds.
This Augustus/Alejandro business. This is a high school, not a criminal organization and if Augustus is working with someone for some stupid criminal plot, then that is just completely and utterly retarded.
They are teenagers, not criminal masterminds.
They're a street gang.
Not the goddamn mafia, but still, a street gang. Is that really so hard to believe?
for me, eh kinda. why go to so much trouble because "hey, these kids stole 20 bucks and kinda hurt me and instead of doing my usual criminal stuff im gonna spend alot of time hunting them" I mean he doesn't seem to have any common sense but you think he'd get over it. I still wait for the horrible alehandjob line "AND AUGUSTUS IS MAH BROTHER! THATS WHY WE H8 CHO MISHIRKAIUL OF GREEN EYES!" Just finding out the criminal relationship between the A&A bros will kill me
- #36
- 12 February 2011 - 04:11 AM
I have a complaint. What's the deal with airline food?
- #38
- 12 February 2011 - 05:30 AM
- Taeshi
- one hot bitch
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See here's what's funny: everyone assumes Alejandro is a criminal mastermind.
I love theories that are completely wrong~
What I don't like is trying not to word of god because when incorrect theories are muttered multiple times I feel like wanting to set things straight, but part of the fun is seeing people question intentions of characters and what's going to happen.. so when the revelation comes they're surprised!
(though I agree if I ever remade BCB into a shorter more succinct story Augustus would stay and his unexplained reasons would be different. Alejandro would be absolutely rewritten, and if I could, removed entirely. I'm kind of at a point where I have no choice but to work at that, even though I already have plans that aren't as melodramatic and mafia-ridden as people think. )
But on the other hand comedy would mostly disappear in favour of telling the story. So only the small nice bits of humour would remain. SO SO MUCH FOR HUMARS
I love theories that are completely wrong~
What I don't like is trying not to word of god because when incorrect theories are muttered multiple times I feel like wanting to set things straight, but part of the fun is seeing people question intentions of characters and what's going to happen.. so when the revelation comes they're surprised!
(though I agree if I ever remade BCB into a shorter more succinct story Augustus would stay and his unexplained reasons would be different. Alejandro would be absolutely rewritten, and if I could, removed entirely. I'm kind of at a point where I have no choice but to work at that, even though I already have plans that aren't as melodramatic and mafia-ridden as people think. )
But on the other hand comedy would mostly disappear in favour of telling the story. So only the small nice bits of humour would remain. SO SO MUCH FOR HUMARS
- #39
- 12 February 2011 - 06:57 AM
- Kav
- Member
Well, I think it's entirely accurate for a high school drama to have some kids part of a gang that sells drugs and holds petty grudges, trying to push people around and act tough. It doesn't even have to be dark. Juvie gangs can be hilarious (if you're not trying to depict them doing any serious crimes beyond petty theft, bullying, and drug dealing).
I mean, hasn't anyone here done retarded stuff like rob fifty bucks from a convenience store when they were younger?
I mean, hasn't anyone here done retarded stuff like rob fifty bucks from a convenience store when they were younger?
- #40
- 12 February 2011 - 07:34 AM
- FireFang1331
- Member
Taeshi, on 12 February 2011 - 06:57 AM, said:
See here's what's funny: everyone assumes Alejandro is a criminal mastermind.
I love theories that are completely wrong~
What I don't like is trying not to word of god because when incorrect theories are muttered multiple times I feel like wanting to set things straight, but part of the fun is seeing people question intentions of characters and what's going to happen.. so when the revelation comes they're surprised!
(though I agree if I ever remade BCB into a shorter more succinct story Augustus would stay and his unexplained reasons would be different. Alejandro would be absolutely rewritten, and if I could, removed entirely. I'm kind of at a point where I have no choice but to work at that, even though I already have plans that aren't as melodramatic and mafia-ridden as people think. )
But on the other hand comedy would mostly disappear in favour of telling the story. So only the small nice bits of humour would remain. SO SO MUCH FOR HUMARS
I love theories that are completely wrong~
What I don't like is trying not to word of god because when incorrect theories are muttered multiple times I feel like wanting to set things straight, but part of the fun is seeing people question intentions of characters and what's going to happen.. so when the revelation comes they're surprised!
(though I agree if I ever remade BCB into a shorter more succinct story Augustus would stay and his unexplained reasons would be different. Alejandro would be absolutely rewritten, and if I could, removed entirely. I'm kind of at a point where I have no choice but to work at that, even though I already have plans that aren't as melodramatic and mafia-ridden as people think. )
But on the other hand comedy would mostly disappear in favour of telling the story. So only the small nice bits of humour would remain. SO SO MUCH FOR HUMARS
Even if a theory it wrong it's always fun to speculate the unknown and ask 'what if' now and then.
If you were to rewrite BCB I would still read it. Your a great artist/writer and someday I might even buy printed copies of this. I really wish I had your art talent in drawing, especially in human-ish figures...the extent of my abilities goes to crapy 2D front facing anime girls...seriously. I really love writing stories but I think some of my work would last so much longer if I could actually see it 'come to life' infront of me. I really appriciate that you work so hard to keep this going...so many people give up and drop it but you are working so hard to not only draw such good art, to make up a good/great storyline to go with it! Really you have my respect and thanks for your hard work and amazing talent, Taeshi. *bows respectfully*
Though if I may ask one thing...will we be seeing anything of our little green friend of any of the other 'pets'? I really miss those guys they were so much fun! I'm not demanding to see them...but they would be fun to see more of possibly in the future. *smiles* Once again many thanks for your hard work and continuation of this comic as well as working on a daily incentive to vote....HOW DO YOU DO IT!?
YOU RULE!!
- #41
- 12 February 2011 - 07:41 AM
- Purin
- BCI Member
Well, I was hoping Alejandro's gang would be more like the Sharks and the Jets on west side story, where they break out in choreographed dances and finger snaps before engaging in their enemy. "Confrontation" got my hopes up when the scene came up with the main characters at a dead-end alley and discovering a boom box playing.
- #42
- 12 February 2011 - 07:41 AM
- FireFang1331
- Member
Lycan, on 12 February 2011 - 07:57 AM, said:
I'm ok, if we have intermissions that can be laughed at.
I simply adored the one Lucy tries to hide porn from her pets
I simply adored the one Lucy tries to hide porn from her pets
Oh I remember that one!
I laughed so much! Infact I'm laughing now remembering it! LOL
This post has been edited by FireFang1331: 12 February 2011 - 08:01 AM
- #44
- 12 February 2011 - 08:00 AM
- Joobles
- Member
Hen Barrison, on 11 February 2011 - 02:10 PM, said:
I went back into the archives the other day and read the first few chapters again, and ya know what I did? I laugfed my ass off. But that made me think, what has this comic come to? It's not funny anymore! These chapters recently, have been nothing but bad crap happening! I've herd the advice "torture the protagonist" by this is rediculous! It's really gone from a sclice of life, to a slice of the dark side. I don't know how you plan to fix this, or if you plan to fix it at all, but I know you can think of something.
SushiJaguar, on 11 February 2011 - 03:02 PM, said:
C-c-combo breakerrrr
C-c-c-current storyline! Lots of slapstick, naughty jokes, and Jessica and Rachel are making quite a pair. With Lucy there, it's a little three stooges, only classier and funnier. I'm thinking it's a bit of a light at the end of a tunnel.
This post has been edited by Joobles: 12 February 2011 - 04:56 PM
- #45
- 12 February 2011 - 04:53 PM
- SushiJaguar
- Internet Tough Guy<br>P.S. I roleplay as a medieval furry
Member
Joo, my combo breaker reference was directed at Tae pretty much removing any need for discussion in the thread. She fucking ninja'd my dealcrab.gif!
- #46
- 12 February 2011 - 05:13 PM
- CriticalQuit
- has a theory about Mike being gay
Member
So I'm right, he is just a street thug?
- #48
- 12 February 2011 - 05:34 PM
- Joobles
- Member
CriticalQuit, on 12 February 2011 - 05:34 PM, said:
So I'm right, he is just a street thug?
Don't call his name, don't call his name, Alejandro~
He is obviously a jerky jerk face. And maybe he was a bully in the early history of the characters. And maybe he just has too much time on his hands. I am of the opinion that he's Mike's evil cousin.
- #49
- 12 February 2011 - 05:50 PM
- CriticalQuit
- has a theory about Mike being gay
Member
Well, he lives in a bad part of the city, he wears gang clothes, he has a big ugly guy who beats people up for him, plus Augustus. They hang out in a bar, he beats up a bunch of younger kids because they owe him 20 bucks, and he nearly rapes Lucy.
He is essentially an ordinary street gang leader.
He is essentially an ordinary street gang leader.
- #50
- 12 February 2011 - 05:58 PM