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Actually, second thoughts.

I don't know if it's wise to post some fan-comic here when I have little knowledge of this environment. And it being terrible quality.

Just try. It cannot hurt you. ^_^

There have been fancomics of varying quality. The only thing you should fear (except if you are terrified of critique, in which case Maverik would be your mortal enemy), is, well, if you have used a fan character.

Unless your like Raxki (is that how you spell his name) Then by all means go ahaed ಠ_ಠ

RedJack, on 28 February 2011 - 12:32 AM, said:

What you mean by that?

Well you did put your own fanchars into the BCB world. I like your comic but from what I'm gathering from other people., they don't seem all to happy with that. I'm just saying thats what I'm seeing.

RedJack, on 28 February 2011 - 10:27 AM, said:

They are not fancharcters.(gonna end this conversantion here)

Raxki, on 28 February 2011 - 06:12 PM, said:

I'm sorry buddy but I've seen your art topic and you can't deny they are fancharacters.

Wow this is going to turn bad, first we have to make someone feel special, then a fight is about to break out. I love everything about this thread.

SoulFish, on 28 February 2011 - 06:31 PM, said:

If they were FC i'd post them on the candybooru the forum art are not.And your new that explain much.(I replying to make it clear)

Raxki, on 28 February 2011 - 06:54 PM, said:

Of course you are. God help us all if a fight breaks out. Honestly Raxki, go fucking berserk. My cat bit a hole through my thumb and I need something to make me smile.

Soooo, where are they from, Raxki? (just curious, is all)

This post has been edited by spicybleachedhead: 28 February 2011 - 06:59 PM

no no no i'll don't wanna star a fight not again .

Raxki, on 28 February 2011 - 06:54 PM, said:

Ok first of pulling seniority on me won't work, I still have the right to form an opinion and second that is complete bullshit about the candybooru thing.
Proof of bullshit
A fancharacter is still a fancharacter no matter where you post them Raxki and the fact you're denying it makes all the stupider:
Character completely shoehorned into the BCB universe? Check.
Displaying a SWEET and SPESHUL relationship with a canon character? Check.
Obvious Self-Insert? Check.
Face it. It's a fancharacter.

Hurry this up I only have an hour before me and my friends fight one another. Lets make this fight mean and juicy!

SoulFish, on 28 February 2011 - 07:02 PM, said:

That me, the artist.That count because a BCB character is there, if it not it be deleted already.

Fenix341, on 28 February 2011 - 07:09 PM, said:

I love how you're enjoying this Fenix

Fenix341, on 28 February 2011 - 07:09 PM, said:

And your just being evil.

I agree that fights in forums can get fun...

Raxki, on 28 February 2011 - 07:11 PM, said:

Just because a BCB character is there does not excuse it, infact it makes it worse for Paulo to be there and just reinforces the stereotype of a fan character that absolutely ADORES a canon character.
Trust me, it's people like you that makes Taeshi so mad at some of the fans because of the sheer number of dumb fan-characters that exist.

@Soulfish and @Raxki

"Oh I love being evil, I walk on up and the devil tips his hat to me~"

And yes I am enjoying this.

Fenix341, on 28 February 2011 - 07:18 PM, said:

You should consider getting popcorn

SoulFish, on 28 February 2011 - 07:19 PM, said:

Now now, lets not get of topic. I don't want this internet fight to go to waste.

And yes I am going to get popcorn.

SoulFish, on 28 February 2011 - 07:15 PM, said:

I got nothing to say to people like you.End of discussion

So you dont have a counter argument and now you're just being ignorant? neat.

This post has been edited by DFA: 28 February 2011 - 07:27 PM

Come on Raxki don't be such a pussy, Paulo dosen't like whiny bitches

Raxki, on 28 February 2011 - 07:25 PM, said:

Well, I'm sorry you feel that way but you can't avoid the truth forever, one day someone else will call you out on this.
Your characters are fancharacters.
I haven't done this to make you feel bad but so I can teach you a valuable lesson for these forums.
Fancharacters are bad, m'kay.
So I hope you won't just ignore this shit because it will happen again some day and they might not be as kind as me.

Fenix341, on 28 February 2011 - 07:28 PM, said:

You sir, are AWESOME.

Fenix341, on 28 February 2011 - 07:28 PM, said:

Paulo teases whiney bitches, not dislike them.

Now now, I'm not putting any points in here, I'm just saying.

"You sir, are AWESOME"

I aim to please my friend. But really I'm just a retard.

This post has been edited by Fenix341: 28 February 2011 - 07:33 PM

Fenix341, on 28 February 2011 - 07:33 PM, said:

Now, now Fenix please cut yourself some slack.

SoulFish, on 28 February 2011 - 07:35 PM, said:

I can't even quote what you said. I'm pretty sure that if I can't figure that out I'm stupid.

Ah, now I have a problem.

Because, although they're more "inspiratees", a lot of you will probably see them as fancharacters. And probably self-inserts.

When I say "inspiratees" (that's where the title of the topic comes from), it's kind of because I'm crap at drawing, but I borrowed Taeshi's style of drawing, and used some old ideas of characters I had for a story once. And then I got these guys. And although they kind of have a whole world of their own, the comic says otherwise.

And I don't like making people angry.

The Nturtanyr, on 28 February 2011 - 07:36 PM, said:

Don't worry, my friend, the fact you admitted it makes you A-OK in my opinion.

This post has been edited by SoulFish: 28 February 2011 - 07:39 PM

Yeah but just don't do it, it will make Taeshi madz. She no likey fancharacters. Just do stuff with the regular ones.

Lol I sparked a fight do I rock or what ಠ_ಠ

We've had this debate already about six times, and it was universally agreed that they are fancharacters. Sorry, Raxki, but the vote is against you. Now let's see some artwork please. You can't be as scrappy as Silviathewolf, at any rate.

This post has been edited by Sammy: 28 February 2011 - 09:36 PM

I find it painfully ironic that the very person who posted this thread is the same person who posted the thread asking about Forum Communities. It's ironic because a bunch people said it was so 'nice' here.

Soulfish, you are wrong.
The pictures on the Booru represents not a fancharacter, but a fursona. which is merely an author avatar.
And things like author avatar/fursonas interacting with fictional characters are easily found in the candybooru.
A fancharacter by any definition is a character created specifically for living in a world not created by the character's creator.
Even the rest of raxki's cast is composed of his own "original" (Even Raxki admitted that the fox kid is modelled after Paulo) characters, that exist for raxki's story.

p.s. back on topic, The Nturtanyr, for what i got you are using tae's style in order to make your own story. Why exactly? Why not using your own style for that?

This post has been edited by Gnukko: 28 February 2011 - 10:23 PM

A leash some people see the larger picture.

This post has been edited by Raxki: 28 February 2011 - 10:42 PM

No offense, but making a post moping about it won't help.

Junior Boomer, on 28 February 2011 - 10:21 PM, said:

what u want me to do?
i need to get it off my chest.

In response to your question, Gnukko, I was inspired to draw manga again.

I'm crap at manga, but Taeshi's cats are easy to draw. So I drew my own, with their own story and stuff. It's just because it was easier to draw these cats, and they're cuter.

Gnukko, on 28 February 2011 - 10:19 PM, said:

While this may seem like a pertinent question when it comes to drawing, if you were to ask this question regarding other forms of artistic media, it seems slightly less accurate.
What I mean is that if you took a violinist, a pianist, or any musician for that matter, and saw him play a piece by another individual, or you saw him improvise/edit a piece by another individual, would you ask that question? Honestly, most people do fanart for two main reasons. One, it's a fun way to practice until they achieve a technical skill level in which they can begin to compose their own world, preferably the way they envision it. Two, it's often a source of inspiration (as The Nturtanyr already pointed out). I know for a fact that writing, drawing, and playing an instrument are all fairly painful to do in the beginning, but once you start to get good, once you start to become happy with what you're doing/making/playing, things tend get a lot more enjoyable.

CMON Nturtanyr (weird name btw) Show us some work and if its not good for a comic then we will say

This thread is intriguing. And yes.... Nturtanyr! Show us what you can do!!! If it doesn't involve the BCB characters i don't think it counts as fan characters anyhow. As you say... inspiration.

And ILB...

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Maverik is indeed our resident writing critic. But remember Nturtanyr, I am the art critic. And I am fierce! WAHAHAHAHAA!!!... jk. But i do like to give tips on drawing. If you don't want them, let me know. ^w^ (also check my fan-comic "Forgotten" in the forums)

Bridgeotto is here to encourage people to read her comics... jk. Also, hate it when people argue about the fancharacters taeshi no like poop. It is good to see more people post art here. Yeah, let see it. the comic. But I suggest another topic.

Borrowing your style isn't the same thing as making a fan character. Drawing in someone elses style is a completley acceptable way to develop your own style. Also, your giving them their own world, your making them whole. Your characters probably have friends and other things they interact with. That's not what pisses Taeshi off about fan characters. It's the fan characters that impose themselves on the original BCB characters, the ones who exist just to be friends with the characters and others like that. However when you add in a whole list of friends/family members to your character that is also made up than you've created almost a whole new world, a sub world if you will. But your not even doing anything involving fan characters, you're just using Taeshi's style. That's perfectly fine so please show us your artwork.

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Raxki made his character for his own comic, which is completely separate. Had you actually read Raxki's comic you'd know that it ISNT a fan character comic, it's technically a cross-over comic. While the difference between them in this case is little, you are still wrong in the technical sense.

Dude, guys, lay off Raxki. The character on Candybooru is his author avatar. It was not made specifically for BCB, nor is it like a self-insert into his own story. It's the representation of himself. Therefore it's him. Not a fancharacter.

There's a distinct difference between using someone else's style to help you in making your own original characters.... and using someone else's style to make characters that belong into the "mimicked" person's work. You understand what I mean?

If Raxki made a character named Hanson who was a cat and belonged in the BCB world and was friends with Mike or some shit, yes. Fancharacter. The characters that he mentioned from his webcomic, though? The style is similar to BCB, and the characters might look similar, but they are NOT fancharacters. They are NOT meant for my world, they're meant to be for HIS. There is a difference. Yes, the styles are similar, but that's how people learn. People mimic, and eventually they mimic other influences and pick and choose what they like, to the point that you're no longer borrowing from one source.

There is honestly no art style out there that is not influenced from anything. There are some that are more heavily influenced by one thing more than others, but that is the learning process. So honestly, guys, don't be a personal army. If you're attacking people just because I don't like fancharacters, you're being really shitty. Argue if that's your genuine opinion. But if you want to give out your genuine opinion, do some bloody research first. Because I know which characters of Raxki's (all) are original. Even if he's got a Paulo rip-off

But to get back on topic - Nturtanyr, don't be afraid. As I stated before, there is nothing wrong with being influenced by a style. Just be open-minded and make sure to experiment!

And I mean honestly, as I've stated in the past, the worst you'll get out of me is me ignoring (if you reveal fancharacters) So I'm not going to ragequit on you.

The message should have been posted to the creative art forum rules? (:

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Oh dear, oh dear~

Hmm never considered crossover possibility. K Raxki I apologize for assuming things. As I've said before I like your drawings so keep going