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04 May 2013 - 07:21 PMSofa_King you're quite hostile for criticizing us for not having a welcoming atmosphere
So is this all baseless babble?:
With this forum I do have a problem, but I don't know if I'm at fault or if someone else is. The reason I don't post that much anymore (if I did in excess at all) is that fact that I guess I'm afraid that I'll say something wrong.
I've seen many people on this forum say things that may not be completely accurate, or their opinion is just a little bit off, and they get plastered and attacked for it mercilessly until they inevitably stop posting or at least reduce their post count to a minimum - I believe you know who I'm talking about so I don't really feel the need to clarify. - Many people have been bullied off this site for that reason as well and it just lead me to think that the people here are nasty and unpleasant at first impression (though I know this is not the case, first timers may not.) I'm not saying you all should smile all the time and be little bottles of pure sunshine, but some feelings of kindness would be appreciated.
I guess I always feel like whenever I go on this forum I need to put on a strong front, like I need to place on a bullet proof vest or acquire a thicker skin instead of just being myself, posting about drama cats, and enjoying peoples company. It's like work, and that's not really what I want to do on a site like this. I want to talk and socialize, but I feel intimidated too and that factor in the end keeps me from speaking out.
(and quite unpleasant in general while looking through your posts)
I don't know if you're cracking a bad joke, or being a example of the issues at hand.
and I think you have no credibility for that.
So lurking for a long, long time doesn't give me that?
The "One person’s clever joke is another person’s offensive insult" deal is mostly a non-issue and that environment is the most important factor here.
Still a valid issue since it's a contributor to the general environment.
04 May 2013 - 04:09 PMFrom what I'm reading, I'm going to guess at what happened:
There was a big growth a few years ago in the community when the forums were open, and the whole thing had a 'Wild West' feeling where people just posted at will about anything. Some time later, the people in charge got angry about there being too much spam/BS on the forums and decided to clean it up.
I guess the best thing to ask is why this was done? I'm assuming it's because you wanted a cleaner, more inviting forum where intelligent topics could be discussed.
This is fine, if you devote yourselves fully to that goal, but there are little things I notice as a forum lurker that get in the way of that.
First of all, there's a lack of moderation against personal attacks or insults. If you want an inviting atmosphere where visitors can post without being afraid of getting run out, you should probably focus on weeding out posts that are simply personal attacks against other posters. That's a good start.
Also, as a visitor, some of the 'red member titles' were quite uninviting when I first started browsing through the forums. Titles that include stuff like "teabagging furfag" and "Stupid protesters should have just kept their dumb asses home. Stupid fuckers" didn't really appeal to me as promoting a nice, warm atmosphere for new people to join in. I'm sure some of these things are inside jokes, but how would a first-time visitor know they were? It's important to consider things from a perspective of "If I were a complete newbie, what would I think if X?"
You just explained in a clear and detailed manner what I meant with my post.
Bolded the bits that I believe especially needs attention.
I guess I always want to attract people with an easygoing personality and a solid sense of humour but that really does seem too much to ask
"One person’s clever joke is another person’s offensive insult"
That PDF is a downright goldnugget, since it goes into detail about the nature of online communication, quite dated though.
Should be a help in starting & cultivating a better and more welcoming atmosphere
The IRC has been pretty slow in recent times so I find people being intimidated over it kind of dated and silly.
Part of the "intimidating" nature of the IRC is that it's completely different to forums or well-known social network alternatives.
Ask yourself: "how can IRC possibly rival that?" or "how are they better than the IRC?" and you'll have your answer(s).
02 May 2013 - 10:41 AMIRC is literally for nerds, since you have to jump through so many hoops to actually make it useful (bouncers, advanced clients requiring lots of tinkering, etc etc).
And there's a strong "old boys" mentality going on among the veterans which pretty much alienates anyone who's already not in their circlejerk.
The question is if they're actually aware of their attitude or blissfully ignorant, since it at first-sight doesn't seem to be affecting them.
It's also quite funny that strict rules were enacted to thin out shitposts, but not to prevent the looming superiority complex from developing among certain regulars.
IMO It's easier to deal with shitposts than people acting like douchenozzles, so in the end, those rules didn't cull the problems, but merely changed the shape of them.
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