55. Back and Forth, page posted 4/23/10

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Back and Forth — Page 4
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Author commentary


hey guess I lied about updating later than normal hohoho

New incentive, it is special because this is OLDSCHOOL BITTERSWEET, I drew it when I was.. 10 or 11? HOPE YOU CAN TELL.

I will post ancient BCB occasionally now because they are good comics and I was a clever loli.


you guys continue to be AWESOME.

Even the ones that use google cache to look at my site while trying to avoid being noticed ;) sneaky little buggers aren’t ya

We want to email you some comics!

Join the thousands of BCB fans who look forward to an email of cat drama every Monday morning, and we’ll send you a dozen “Ships Ahoy” comic strips, and one every week after that!

We’ll send a link to the comics you missed, straight away.

Reader comments

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Comment ID #7547

I love how you’ve been drawing the same characters since you were young. I guess a good idea stays with you and develops, right?

Colin April 23, 2010, 3:28 AM EST.

Comment ID #7550

Dance them to the cliffs! Furious Abbey

Sands from DA April 23, 2010, 3:32 AM EST.

Comment ID #7551

It doesn’t count unless heavy petting was also involved.

Gabriel Kaxbe April 23, 2010, 3:36 AM EST.

Comment ID #7553


Meg April 23, 2010, 3:42 AM EST.

Comment ID #7555

I think Dave is just trying to hide his hopeful enthusiasm… he wants Paulo.

lolnewreaderwut April 23, 2010, 3:45 AM EST.

Comment ID #7556

Well, that goes without saying, that Dave wants Paulo.

Insomniac April 23, 2010, 3:52 AM EST.

Comment ID #7557

Hmm alot of shouting in the hallway, I wonder if anyone els will overhear them talking.

Jimbo April 23, 2010, 3:58 AM EST.

Comment ID #7558

Well… he wanted it…

Disciple April 23, 2010, 4:09 AM EST.

Comment ID #7559

Hm. I now have to draw hot steamy gay furry porn of Paulo banging David. BECAUSE THAT’S OBVIOUSLY THE WISH YOU COMMUNICATING TO US WITH THIS COMIC.

Skyen April 23, 2010, 4:13 AM EST.

Comment ID #7560

Just as an update, BCB is only 15 votes behind 18th place

Lariat April 23, 2010, 4:15 AM EST.

Comment ID #7561

*sigh* Paulo, I’m afraid you must turn over your man card, just hand it over. As for you David, you’re on notice. *stern glare*

John April 23, 2010, 4:16 AM EST.

Comment ID #7562

Also, I love Paulo’s expressions on this entire page, especially panels 6 and 9

Lariat April 23, 2010, 4:17 AM EST.

Comment ID #7563

Poor David: so young, and afraid of change. His beliefs of how the world works are just falling apart! Next someone is going to tell him Santa isn’t real, and it’ll break his heart :(

Bribri April 23, 2010, 4:27 AM EST.

Comment ID #7565

david’s image of paulo is crumbling again. are lucy and daisy also talking?

pedro April 23, 2010, 5:16 AM EST.

Comment ID #7566

david id losing faith in paulo… its so sad. but whats even sadder is that 10 year old Taeshi drew better then 13-14 year old me! im pretty sure 15+ me draws better then that though, but still!

Jack2 April 23, 2010, 5:36 AM EST.

Comment ID #7568

Dear God….I just figured out why I don’t like David…He is just like Teh Todd from Scrubs!?!…ya know without the high fives and banana hammocks. It’s kind of weird because I like the Todd…I guess David doesn’t pull it off. well gratz Mike you’re no longer at the bottom of my **** list =D…but I’m still keeping my EYE on you =w=

SWM the Dialogue Ninja April 23, 2010, 6:00 AM EST.

Comment ID #7571

David doesn’t know how to be a gentleman. :P

Ved of Flames April 23, 2010, 6:18 AM EST.

Comment ID #7572

You’re talking about the same guy that kept poking Lucy’s tit while she was passed out.

Uh huh.

Jerk April 23, 2010, 6:29 AM EST.

Comment ID #7573

11 more votes till taeshi’s in 17th! Keep it up!

Riff2580 April 23, 2010, 6:39 AM EST.

Comment ID #7578

This comic is getting interesting everyday.

Phoenix April 23, 2010, 7:05 AM EST.

Comment ID #7580

Imma stare at chu through my incredulous Sonic eyes.

Poor Paulo. If anything, that’s halfway there with two different girls.

Moddy Auld April 23, 2010, 7:39 AM EST.

Comment ID #7585

lol the world was so different in the year 2000… and good comic =/ i only got slightly over average drawing skills and when i get bored i just make a comic with some people from school in it, they usually suffer pain =/ the teachers sometimes give me extra credit if i put it on my work though lol

BSQ April 23, 2010, 8:14 AM EST.

Comment ID #7605

“Ewww he kissed a girl, that’s so gay” as my bf would’ve said XD

Wurst April 23, 2010, 10:14 AM EST.

Comment ID #7606

…I always use google to ge tto the side when I’m at school …
but this David and Paulo conversation indeed seems different- I like it :D

Lisa April 23, 2010, 10:19 AM EST.

Comment ID #7607

Is it just me, or have Paulo and Mike switched places in their ‘part’ in the comic? Paulo’s become the caring guy who’s looking after everyone, and Mike’s sorta turned into the jerk of the group.

Not saying that’s a bad thing. Viva la character development IMHO. Just an observation. But I’m really starting to like Paulo, and starting to feel bad for him since now he’s in this triangle with Lucy and Tess.

Maverik April 23, 2010, 10:39 AM EST.

Comment ID #7608

Triangle? What triangle? He loves Tess. And I doubt his affection for Lucy’s gonna change that. The only real question is, is Lucy going to find a more-than-just-friends love interest?

Insomniac April 23, 2010, 10:52 AM EST.

Comment ID #7609

Well I think Paulo really likes daisy, which is why he couldn’t do it with Tess, but I would much rather have him be with Tess, I think they’re perfect! On a side note, how old were you when you started this comic? lol

Verd April 23, 2010, 11:14 AM EST.

Comment ID #7610

LOL…David really knows how to scold someone xD

ArceDeer April 23, 2010, 11:33 AM EST.

Comment ID #7611

I’m pretty sure that Daisy likes…agh, crap, I forget his name. The guy with the big ears. Anyway, yeah, I think that was known to Paulo when they returned from Acapulco. So now to see what develops from this story.

Kenny April 23, 2010, 11:37 AM EST.

Comment ID #7613

And Daisy >_>

Sind April 23, 2010, 12:03 PM EST.

Comment ID #7614

woops, I forgot to reload the page before posing a new coment XD

Sind April 23, 2010, 12:04 PM EST.

Comment ID #7622

He dosen’t want any but Daisy so lets hope to find PAULOxDAISY instead.

I really hope that mike get over his kind of depression because…

-(mike’s quote)-Things happened and you’re just…

______________________________________________ ______________________

From a Random French Guy ^^

FurryMaxime April 23, 2010, 1:11 PM EST.

Comment ID #7624

it better count david, RIGHT! XD funny ****…. poor paulo was forced 2 times to turn down :(

Kariz April 23, 2010, 1:26 PM EST.

Comment ID #7625


It’s super… crap, this is so overused in these damn comments now.

DavCube April 23, 2010, 1:27 PM EST.

Comment ID #7628

Poor poor Paulo, lately he doesn’t get a breeze. And his happy-go-lucky face in the 11th panel is great; such optimism and hope… crushed just later. Yep, his “let’s try to show old me to keep David happy” act is getting less efective.

And poor poor mr. president Abbey, people forget his name. XD

x_uve April 23, 2010, 1:38 PM EST.

Comment ID #7629

While your moral fiber is appreciated, Paulo, I’m afraid you’ll have to turn in your man card.

TLV April 23, 2010, 1:58 PM EST.

Comment ID #7630

ahahhahahahha awesomeness at its finest…. oh and im curious how BCB changed from when you were a youngling to oh say now…

selvy April 23, 2010, 2:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #7662

Aaaand I finally managed to keep up with the last page ^w^ Whoo, reading the whole comic in two weeks straight! BRING ME MORE ENERGETICS O:<

Though… Ironic. How can David put up that face, if he never scored a single one! XD He dun no whatzu be a playa!

Billy MT April 23, 2010, 4:19 PM EST.

Comment ID #7667

Ugh.. I have a hard time believing of how Dave’s expressions are (the timing anyway) that he has a crush on Paulo. Not saying that it isn’t there, but… it doesn’t seem like it.

And yet, Dave has some serious interest in whether Paulo is banging someone or not. So I guess I come away confused.

Don’t get me wrong, awesome comic and page, it’s just I can’t draw any conclusions yet. In the words of Johnny Five, “NEED MORE INPUT” =P

Zaehlas April 23, 2010, 5:03 PM EST.

Comment ID #7676

I can’t honestly tell between the old ones and the new ones,the eyes are different but that’s all I can see.And the way the old ones are shaded.

Jay April 23, 2010, 6:06 PM EST.

Comment ID #7683

I had no idea this was an old comic until I read your commentary. I guess everything just flows naturally in the comic! :)

Solario the Visored April 23, 2010, 6:36 PM EST.

Comment ID #7689

Let’s not forget the fact that David looked up to Paulo. I think he has a hard time realizing Paulo’s ‘player’ facade and then his real morals, are two completely different things.

Agentwebdog April 23, 2010, 6:47 PM EST.

Comment ID #7691

David DOES seem to have an unusual interest in Paulo’s love life. He seems more interested to see Paulo get laid than to not get laid, so I’m preeeetty sure he’s not gay for Paulo like I read someone else wondering in their comment, but it’s still an unusual amount of interest. But David is an unusual puppy, so that’s okay. *nods*

Cedric Bale April 23, 2010, 6:54 PM EST.

Comment ID #7693

Heh, Paulo just did the same thing David did in the last panel in the previous page :D

Dudster April 23, 2010, 6:59 PM EST.

Comment ID #7696

This chapter will turn out interesting… I know it

Jefe April 23, 2010, 7:04 PM EST.

Comment ID #7697

I love you…….

Wolfei April 23, 2010, 7:10 PM EST.

Comment ID #7698

Sheesh, you’re getting way too many “new incentives”. I guess that’s a good thing, though…

Also, I think David’s gonna have another moment.

Pyrofiend April 23, 2010, 7:10 PM EST.

Comment ID #7757

@Cedric: There I keep my stand that David is still a total PauloxDaisy shipper, besides that would explain too why he seemed so um… “exalted/angry” about Lucy and Paulo being a couple.

But of course, his shipping goes into the background when Paulo’s playah image goes blammo. :p

x_uve April 23, 2010, 10:18 PM EST.

Comment ID #7779

Y’know, one thing I find weird about this comic is that they’re all drawn totally naked, yet sometimes wear at least some amount of clothing. Like at the beach in Acapulco.

Insomniac April 23, 2010, 11:53 PM EST.

Comment ID #7789

Yer losin’ yer edge Paulo

Knul April 24, 2010, 12:32 AM EST.

Comment ID #7806

@Insomniac: Yeah, and they also mention the reason to why they dont go naked to the beach there. It’s simply no nude swimming.

Woa, wait, woa, what?
When did David get the ability to be serious?

Megaket, likes swimming April 24, 2010, 2:35 AM EST.

Comment ID #7812

David isnt really in any position to criticize Paulo, apparently its David’s fault that he didnt sleep with Tess, and dont mean to judge, but you dont exactly see David doing so well at the moment either. Either way one can see that Davids always been rather close minded about this and seems to hate having his vision of Paulo as a Lady’s man challenged at any time.

Senshuro April 24, 2010, 2:53 AM EST.

Comment ID #7877

D’awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! ;’D
Poor Paulo! DX
Man up, man ;0 haters gonna hate ;s
And if some people just have ridiculous expectations of you, ignore them, you didn’t fail if it wasn’t your plan >.>

Hyper April 24, 2010, 5:02 AM EST.

Comment ID #7900

well, i think its safe to say that paulo broke david.

Jack2 April 24, 2010, 6:20 AM EST.

Comment ID #7920

It was then David learned his hero was not a hero BUT A…. hero… wait..

Joshyartist April 24, 2010, 7:48 AM EST.

Comment ID #7925

@Joshyartist: try “good role-model”

Dudster April 24, 2010, 8:51 AM EST.

Comment ID #7953


Penhallow April 24, 2010, 10:31 AM EST.

Comment ID #7956

woot! i know that feeling! i finished it all on the second page of this chapter, lol. congrats!

Jack2 April 24, 2010, 11:43 AM EST.

Comment ID #7991

About the voting incentive, when I was told about it, they said the exact same thing, and I thought the exact same thing as Yashy. Funny!

Le Biologist April 24, 2010, 3:36 PM EST.

Comment ID #7992

Nice comic! Read a few pages and got totaly hooked. Had to read the whole thing in one standing. Keep up the good work!

Wimbula April 24, 2010, 3:44 PM EST.

Comment ID #7993

OH man! I read all the pages in 2 days. Well, back to work!

Mcnus April 24, 2010, 3:50 PM EST.

Comment ID #8235

same here, i saw all the pages of the comic, the instant i first time i check this page, from 6 pm to 2 am
and the next finally i got to the “last page”, what i really apreciate of the artist, the owner of this webcomic, is her schedule, no wobcomic, no one, have ever updated the comic, the day they say they will update, but no, no only this webcomic is updated when is schedule, but 3 time a week!?!?, seriously awesome!, and the story is so awesome!
it has everything, humor, action, and drama, DRAMAAA!
but gotta say i <3 daisy she’s cute :3

elosogamer April 24, 2010, 10:39 PM EST.

Comment ID #8330

I’ve spent the last two days reading through what has turned out to be quite the entertaining gem. Not often is it that I find myself engrossed in something as I have your, no doubt, painstaking project. I can tell a lot of work has gone into it, and I just ask myself why it’s just now that I happened upon it. All your characters are well developed and continue to grow throughout the story. Not to mention the sole fact that you even have a story, something a lot of webcomics seem to be lacking. But it’s a very good one that keeps the reader captivated from page one. It may get a tad complex at times, but who’s to say complexity is a bad thing. Any way I’m rambling on, I have a bad habit of that. So keep up the good work, and I will keep reading.

Davi-Kun April 25, 2010, 4:12 AM EST.

Comment ID #8395

Heh I guess it goes to show you work on something for a long time you get better…. I wish it was the same for me… I’ve been working on a comic since I was 6 and though my dialouge has gotten better my drawings SUCK! *Sighs*… Anyways I’m glad the principle works for some people.
Keep gettin’ better champ! ^_^

WolvenPaw15 April 25, 2010, 8:08 AM EST.

Comment ID #8490


TacoTownUSA April 25, 2010, 2:44 PM EST.

Comment ID #8494




waffle911 April 25, 2010, 2:48 PM EST.

Comment ID #8500

Panel 7,Dave’s eyes open in a gawking expression,or they closed?hard for me to tell.

Jay April 25, 2010, 3:01 PM EST.

Comment ID #8509

@Jay: looks like open in gawking expression to me

waffle911 April 25, 2010, 3:05 PM EST.

Comment ID #8566

After seeing a dozen artists pretending to be writers, it’s nice to see a comic with good story-line execution.

Anonymoose April 25, 2010, 7:15 PM EST.

Comment ID #8567

I think it’s a bit of both.His eyes appear shut and mouth is open,so I’d say he’s sighing in an exasperated face.

Phlea April 25, 2010, 7:22 PM EST.

Comment ID #8576

Riiiggggggggggght. 8D

Lol, this sounds familiar.

KirbyFlash April 25, 2010, 9:05 PM EST.

Comment ID #8605

From the incentive it seems like the cats originally looked more like actual cats.

MiwAuturu April 25, 2010, 9:57 PM EST.

Comment ID #8614

I was wondering if someone was gonna point out the fact that Lucy is sitting LIKE A CAT.

Taeshi April 25, 2010, 10:15 PM EST.

Comment ID #8665

well i thought it was too obvious to have to point out :P… did find it silly though :3

Kariz April 26, 2010, 12:35 AM EST.

Comment ID #8706

I’m going to read everything from comic 1 T_T
I can’t stop coming back to this webpage every 30 minutes~!
Good bye all, I’m going back to page 1

Wolfei April 26, 2010, 3:05 AM EST.

Comment ID #8714

@Taeshi also lucy doesn’t have a bow… forgot to put that in my previous comment >.> and just noticed too <.

Kariz April 26, 2010, 4:11 AM EST.

Comment ID #8724


JANE April 26, 2010, 4:34 AM EST.

Comment ID #8725


Pwnzz April 26, 2010, 4:35 AM EST.

Comment ID #8728

i’m waiting…

meg April 26, 2010, 4:42 AM EST.

Comment ID #8732


Pwnzz April 26, 2010, 4:51 AM EST.

Comment ID #8737


meg April 26, 2010, 5:05 AM EST.

Comment ID #8738


meg April 26, 2010, 5:07 AM EST.

Comment ID #8740

oh shut up. You think you could do it faster? She has to work too you know.

Jeff in Aus April 26, 2010, 5:13 AM EST.

Comment ID #8741

THANK YOU. If I’d have seen ONE more comment on how the comic was late I was going to lose it.

ToastyJester April 26, 2010, 5:14 AM EST.

Comment ID #8743

Some people just don’t appreciate artists sometimes, I’ve seen it before.

Jeff in Aus April 26, 2010, 5:16 AM EST.

Comment ID #8744

*stamp* “OWNED BY JEFF”

Jerk April 26, 2010, 5:17 AM EST.

Comment ID #8745

*High fives Jerk and Toasty*

Peach snapples all round, yo!

Jeff in Aus April 26, 2010, 5:19 AM EST.

Comment ID #8746

Fun fact: I could have updated this comic early because I actually didn’t have work today, but I just wanted to bide my time by having a nice little nap and spending the day drawing and being with Souppy ;)

so you impatient guys can eat it, I’ll be more paranoid about updating once I stop getting nagged so much~~~!!!

Taeshi April 26, 2010, 5:25 AM EST.

Comment ID #8748

btw Jerk and Toasty and Jeff: brossss

Taeshi April 26, 2010, 5:25 AM EST.

Comment ID #8750

This would be the point where I’d do some sort of complicated handshake and end with a fist bump.

But that will come another day.

ToastyJester April 26, 2010, 5:28 AM EST.

Comment ID #8751

Hell, I wish I could spend my days like that.

Instead I’m stuck in the house waiting for a phone call to start my new job and wondering where all my rum went.

Jeff in Aus April 26, 2010, 5:28 AM EST.

Comment ID #8753

god i feel like such a jerkface to be saying that

BUT I DON’T KNOW i feel i don’t really need to be nagged because I will always update. It makes me wonder how some of you’d act over the sites that like barely update.. or rather update like once or twice a week and are never consistent. I’m sure that would drive you crazy.

When I run out of buffer, I will totally let you know about it :-[

Taeshi April 26, 2010, 5:34 AM EST.

Comment ID #8757

I don’t see a real problem with updating a bit late. I mean, “Oh no the comic isn’t up at the usual time, it’s not like I’ve still got… two more days to read it before the next scheduled update!”


The people complaining about late updates need to actually take into account that you’re, y’know, human? Not some sort of comic pumping machine that just constantly makes comics for our enjoyment. They also need to stop thinking themselves so important that you need to bend to their schedule or that they deserve the comic (which I doubt they do if they’re so impatient and demanding). Life comes first, comics come later.

ToastyJester April 26, 2010, 5:45 AM EST.

Comment ID #8768

Taeshi, it’s your comic, therefore your rules. You don’t answer to any of us.

At all.


Jeff in Aus April 26, 2010, 5:49 AM EST.

Comment ID #9052

Jeff is right! It’s your comic and you’ll *insert somewhat negative, but theraputic activity* if you want to! :D

Solario the Visored April 26, 2010, 8:50 PM EST.

Comment ID #67571

y woud never do that that she wanted

j the fourth July 30, 2010, 1:22 PM EST.

Comment ID #67679

Why thank you I am awesom ^_^

muddkipz July 30, 2010, 8:24 PM EST.

Comment ID #83707

David is perhaps the worst influence EVER. Even compared to the villainous characters. D:

Tama August 29, 2010, 1:39 PM EST.

Comment ID #99413

Oh David, you and your moments ^^;

PotatoMuffin October 2, 2010, 7:41 PM EST.

Comment ID #102227


narwhalgrl October 8, 2010, 10:44 AM EST.

Comment ID #126329

Good for Paulo, save sex for marriage!

X-Strike-Fire-Dragon November 15, 2010, 7:26 PM EST.

Comment ID #128856

lol Paulo remembers middle school health class.

SushiJaguar November 18, 2010, 3:52 AM EST.

Comment ID #140562

Ahhhh repitiions.

Eh? EH!?

Right? RIGHT!?

That Guy January 5, 2011, 2:01 PM EST.

Comment ID #146927

Paulo should’ve gone out of his way to teach David about male honor. The titles of “pervert” and “gentleman” are not mutually exclusive. What really matters is how you treat women when it’s actually important. And as we saw, Paulo passed a really hard test with flying colors. I love how much he’s matured since middle school. ^^

ArchangelM127 February 11, 2011, 5:54 PM EST.

Comment ID #147900

it totally counts in my opinion and he gets 10 out of 10 points for bein so awesome! except for the Tess thing…he kinda screwed up there.

noone knows February 16, 2011, 2:24 AM EST.

Comment ID #151212

OMG I just luv david in here he’s so funneh

Mai March 10, 2011, 4:26 AM EST.

Comment ID #151605

far out i was taking a drink of water when i was reading this comic and i dont think i have to say any more except i think i fried my laptop

Loro4 March 13, 2011, 8:54 AM EST.

Comment ID #151836

You know, I usually really enjoy Davids silly antics. But here, he’s being a total *******. Paulo has made some serious progress recently, and David is destroying it through methods of peer pressure.

bluesub6 March 14, 2011, 5:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #156852

Is it just me or has this become more Paulo’s story?

Hiero April 13, 2011, 9:06 PM EST.

Comment ID #162592

I couldn’t agree more. :D

Now I’m even starting to dislike David. Why do you have to ruin the funny guy?

Why is he browbeating Paulo so hard? Is it because Paulo is finally growing up, while you are stuck in this pathetic little world where you think jokes and stupid remarks against women will get you anywhere in this world?

I doubt that Lucy is going to love the fact that Paulo is telling David all this… D:

NintendoSegaSonyGuy May 21, 2011, 1:37 PM EST.

Comment ID #167898

David is acting like a ****
but he is still one of my favs

jack June 18, 2011, 7:13 PM EST.

Comment ID #169137

But DAVID!! Being gay is A-OKAY! Remember? Remember Carson???

failbot June 25, 2011, 3:19 PM EST.

Comment ID #172587

Oh Paulo, but you are a Scumbag

APerson July 14, 2011, 2:53 PM EST.

Comment ID #176962

David, were you watching me react to both of those times so you could copy me say that in the comic or are you psychic? :question:

paulosawesome August 14, 2011, 5:09 AM EST.

Comment ID #182282

David isn’t as awesome as he used to be >3>

He should have been replaced by Ki zuna in my opinion

John September 16, 2011, 3:37 AM EST.

Comment ID #216002

Counts to me you noble man!
Seriously, right-o on yo, Paulo. You are truly a good person underneath that terrible hair. Well, I’m certainly not one to talk, my hair is even worse.

The Guy in the Background May 7, 2012, 10:56 PM EST.

Comment ID #220742

I can’t get tired of David! XD he’s just drama-proof! :P

Cavara July 3, 2012, 12:20 PM EST.

Comment ID #229031

You betrayed us all, Paulo. You betrayed us all.

Finnish guy September 21, 2012, 4:37 PM EST.

Comment ID #231077


DarkB October 10, 2012, 10:22 PM EST.

Comment ID #238156

Nope not gay he does not make my gaydar go off. He is just a good straight guy.

Bell_the_gaomon February 3, 2013, 2:53 PM EST.

Comment ID #243147

I’ve never seen him so disappointed in Paulo before… I think, my memory is as good as his sometimes

SimonD April 16, 2013, 5:21 PM EST.

Comment ID #244158

Haha oh, David’s “And you…” faces just crack me up xD

But really, I trully love Paulo’s character. Even if he acts like a womanizer and has the obvious urges of all teenagers, he’s still a great friend and pretty mature.
Not taking advantage of Lucy in her weakest moment is something not all people would’ve done, and it’s something definitely worth of respect : )

4thStar April 28, 2013, 11:53 PM EST.

Comment ID #284479

do i have a thing with cuasing? if you awnserd yes
F*** YOU

TemplarArchon_Hunter July 28, 2014, 4:54 PM EST.

Comment ID #299512

Heh… “Taste the Rainbow”

An Again Smug Asexual May 30, 2015, 11:57 PM EST.

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