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Comment ID #257852

That imagery!

TheRealSomeone(akaSomeone August 28, 2013, 1:00 PM EST.

Comment ID #257853

you are not an adult Daisy. :/

randomdice August 28, 2013, 1:00 PM EST.

Comment ID #257854

Awww Paulo, I wonder if Daisy will stop… hmmmm :O

Bolgverk August 28, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.

Comment ID #257855

rly daisy you dont know what you’re getting yourself into..

Skittz August 28, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.

Comment ID #257856

Gettin a bit rebellious, aren’t we Daisy?
This can’t end well..

Gabba August 28, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.

Comment ID #257857

“I’m not a baby” :/

wr3h August 28, 2013, 1:01 PM EST.

Comment ID #257858

Then why are you acting like a spoiled child Daisy? Your closest friend is giving you good advice and all you can think of is “I’m not a baby.”

Daisy, do you realize that you are setting yourself up for failure? Go to Abbey and ask him how he feels about all this. Odds are that he is only going through with this to please you. The boy was nervous making out with you. How do you think he’ll handle the next step?

supertails19 August 28, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #257859

Pout face FTW :D This is gunna get complicated…

xxGrayxx August 28, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #257860

Wow,that guy has ninty-nine problems,and girls are the main one

lov/hate/hurt August 28, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #257861


pauloissohotlike August 28, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #257862

Oh daisy….

McMysterio August 28, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #257863

Daisy misinterprets what Paulo means, and jumps head first into unknown territory. Anyone smell a upcoming train wreck?

Zero August 28, 2013, 1:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #257864

Daisy’s so adorble (that’s how your write it?) in the last panel!I love it how Paulo’s being all big brother like and all.I would love to see my brother reaction if I told him something like that,since he freaked out even when I started daiting XD but seriously,I think Daisy’s ready.Like somebody said in the earlier page,she know’s what she’s doing she’s gonna get protection and all,plus it’s ABBEY she’s doing it with.

Dawny999 August 28, 2013, 1:03 PM EST.

Comment ID #257865

this has failure written all over it (as in, we all know this can’t end well :( )

Lena August 28, 2013, 1:07 PM EST.

Comment ID #257866

It is better to take Paulo’s advice this time.

HongKat August 28, 2013, 1:09 PM EST.

Comment ID #257867

I wish Daisy would be a little more understanding about this whole sex thing. Paulo didn’t imply that Daisy is too immature or is like a baby. He’s trying to protect her. Even though Daisy is fairly smart, this won’t be one of her best life choices if she goes through with this. To me at least. Sex doesn’t make you into an adult or more mature. It can make you feel great at first,but then end in disaster later on. I hope Daisy will think about this twice. But besides that, she looks like such a cutie when she pouts! I feel like this chapter explains Daisy’s and Paulo’s character more and how they interact with each other. Can’t wait to see what’s next!

reignwaker August 28, 2013, 1:12 PM EST.

Comment ID #257868

While you might now be a ‘baby’, Daisy, you don’t need to prove it like this. Then again, you’re doing it differently than Paulo did. When he had his first (two) time(s), it was with Jessica and Rachel, and they only did it to tick off Tess, with it working. Hence Paulo’s current issues with sex. On the other side we have Daisy, who’s doing it with Abbey, her boyfriend for a while now, and they’re being as careful as they really can. So Paulo’s panicking might not really be warranted.
But more importantly, YEAH, PAULO. FINISH THAT SANDWICH. 8-)

Oceanus92 August 28, 2013, 1:12 PM EST.

Comment ID #257869

Daisy for once Paulo giving you some sound advice, sex is a pretty big step and there isn’t a reset button for life. So be safe, be sure, and be smart…other than that I do enjoy how Paulo’s past mistakes are being used by him to advise others NOT to do what he did.

JURAI August 28, 2013, 1:15 PM EST.

Comment ID #257870

Oh my Gawd, Daisy. Nobody even said you were a baby, you’re the on putting yourself down. All Paulo said is to be safe, is it soo wrong for him to care about you? Daisy seems to be taking things the wrong way alot.

Meow August 28, 2013, 1:16 PM EST.

Comment ID #257871

I think people misinterpreted Abbeys actions when he was making out with Daisy - judging by the blush and the placement of his hands I think he popped a ***** and was embarrassed by it - hence Daisy bringing up sex. Daisy is a very kind person, she wouldn’t push Abbey into doing something he was uncomfortable tith - but I think she reads Abbeys physical erection as him being ready for sex.
I can understand how she feels - she is a very, very intelligent character, but she is also naive, and her friends have a tendency to talk down to her and coddle her, which occasionally makes her feel like she isn’t taken seriously, and she feels frustrated.
Also the art on this page is gorgeous!

Ramona August 28, 2013, 1:20 PM EST.

Comment ID #257872

All you commenters, Daisy can have sex if she wants to.

Icsifil August 28, 2013, 1:20 PM EST.

Comment ID #257873

Also - I don’t think sex is that much of an issue. Society bigs it up as either a right of passage or a loss of purity, but I think it’s neither.
Heck, even they hymen “breaking” is actually a myth - it has holes in it to let menstrual blood out and these simple get bigger. Your body isn’t ruined or deflowered - heck, the hymen will even heal up if you don’t have sex for a loooong time.
So I don’t see why there has to be a “disaster” or anything - if they both want to, and are safe everything should be fine :) x

Ramona August 28, 2013, 1:24 PM EST.

Comment ID #257874

Think Paulo is going to “disable” Abbey.

I think Daisy is feeling like she is being patronized or babied, its not easy to tell without having the tone of voice, but she has always been the little sister type of character to the others so adding this on top of how she is already feeling will not help the situation.

If she feels like she has something to prove the more likely she will try to rush things. Going to quickly could mean that she and by extension Abbey don’t take the full precautions they should, but if that happens and she tries to rush I think its more likely that she will end up pushing Abbey away and that will cause them to break up. Que heartache, drama yada yada etc

Chrisd765 August 28, 2013, 1:26 PM EST.

Comment ID #257875

But you should not get yourself over emotionally attatched. The more emotionally attatched, the dangerous the relationship will be on the brink of break up, and that can lead to a horrible one at best.

Keyblade Dragon August 28, 2013, 1:30 PM EST.

Comment ID #257876

Bad things are peeking around the horizon, Daisy stahp please :c

Me August 28, 2013, 1:34 PM EST.

Comment ID #257877


It’s “cue.” Que is Spanish for “what.” Queue is a British word for a line of people.

@Keyblade Dragon

Emotional attachment or not, breakups are tough. Personally, I’d rather invest myself in a serious relationship fully, even at the risk of getting hurt somewhere down the line, than hold back just because I MIGHT some day get hurt.

Eemia August 28, 2013, 1:34 PM EST.

Comment ID #257878

Uggghhhh that’s what I hate so much about this chapter
First of all, I’m not really a fan of Daisy. What she’s doing, though, is completely stupid. She’s constantly saying that the protection she’s seeking is “just in case” Abbey and her have sex. You know what’s the best protection, though? Maybe, hm, NOT HAVE SEX? Really, if you don’t want it and Abbey feels the same way, then just don’t do it! However, if you want to do it, at least have the balls to admit you do and stop whining and making your friends uncomfortable.

Idastar August 28, 2013, 1:39 PM EST.

Comment ID #257879

@Eemia thought it looked wrong but I’m to tired to care

Chrisd765 August 28, 2013, 1:39 PM EST.

Comment ID #257880

Why Paulo Paused, a humble analysis:

He was going to mention Jessica and Rachel’s motivations, only that would mean bringing up Rachel (notice he only said Jessica and stopped), who has been seen very recently all snugly with Paulo still. He’d have to explain why he’s still sleeping with her, which would be hard considering he’s upset about doing so. Which would bring up Lucy, and just how all of his actions in general are not lining up with his intentions. I don’t think he’s a hypocrite, but I do think he is very good at being used and helping in the process. His words of advice to Daisy hopefully will also spark a little of his own self-reflection to offset some of that angst.

Hazel August 28, 2013, 1:41 PM EST.

Comment ID #257881

Taeshi you make the funniest comments about the pages more then anyone else every time xD

It makes it twice as funny!

Sleepingfox August 28, 2013, 1:43 PM EST.

Comment ID #257882

Then why are you in daycare now? You’re pouting like you are. So, about this “Daisy pouts: The comic”? :P 8-D

o_o August 28, 2013, 1:51 PM EST.

Comment ID #257883

Wonder what is going to happen now, paulo knows what is talking about, but daisy has to think too serious her next step

eagle August 28, 2013, 1:59 PM EST.

Comment ID #257884

oh dear i wonder who paulo’s gonna tell this convo to

Astrid555.1 August 28, 2013, 2:25 PM EST.

Comment ID #257885

Daisy…don’t pull a Miley

Jaime August 28, 2013, 2:30 PM EST.

Comment ID #257886

Oh Daisy, nobody thinks you’re a baby love. Paulo just wants you to be safe. He cares for you a great deal and wants you to be careful and well. But as always it’s hard to tell as Paulo generally sucks at expressing his true emotions properly and Daisy is too used to everyone patronizing her. So of course she feels like she’s being treated like the “kid sister” again.

Nobody has shown her any different, so what’s she to expect? That suddenly everyone is treating her like the young adult she wants to be treated as? Of course not. While Paulo’s intentions were only good, the fact that he skirted around her questions and answered them vaugely will only drive Daisy to further explore her issue, with or without his or anyone else’s help.

Spinda August 28, 2013, 2:37 PM EST.

Comment ID #257887

I don’t think Daisy realizes that there’s more to it… Sure, she’s not a baby, and she’s smart, but, just book smart. I’ll give her credit for at least knowing to use protection. But there’s more to it then just “practicing safe sex.” She may be mature, but is she mature in /that/ way? I don’t really think she is, and by Abbey’s facial responses, he’s a bit skeptical, he’s not over there with raging hormones and acting horny as hell, and he definitely doesn’t have anything to prove- (one word- Paulo). Paulo did do it, and worst of all, he wasn’t prepared for it. Which is probably why he regrets it now, realizing that he should have waited.
So yeah. If you actually read this- thanks for listening to my two scents.

Devmarizella August 28, 2013, 2:39 PM EST.

Comment ID #257888

I don’t know about you Paulo, but it looks like Daisy, especially Daisy, and Abbey are “meaning to” have sex.
You and Jessica were one thing, Paulo. You were just another hot dog looking for some fun at the time and coincidently Jess was looking to get back at you through the one thing that gave you strength: sex, as well as its appeal.
The thing between Daisy and Abbey is different. It’s not a “you show me, I show you” or a “I took it, screw you” thing. They’ve been together for a while and their feelings have grown.
You and Jess, Paulo, just happened to sack together over the course of what, two to three hours of knowing each other? Yeah, now that can get bad as your face obviously shows.
The only reason I could see this getting “complicated” is if Abbey and Daisy started to dislike each other, or someone pulls a Jess and tries to come between them. By how shy and honorable, as well as loyal Abbey is, and how equally shy and caring Daisy is, I don’t foresee much difficulty.

Blank On Purpose August 28, 2013, 2:41 PM EST.

Comment ID #257889

Daw. Last panel so cute.

Volnutt August 28, 2013, 2:46 PM EST.

Comment ID #257890

I had sex at age 15, two months to age 16. I’m still with that guy, and it’s been 4 years. No baby, no drama. Honestly, if Daisy thinks she’s ready then allow her to make her own decisions. Her own consequences to live up to.

Shelby August 28, 2013, 2:48 PM EST.

Comment ID #257891

Darn right high school sex gets complicated, and fast. I don’t care how old or mature you think you are, there is a high chance high school society will follow you around and make you feel crazy things about your sex life. Not to mention, you probably want to graduate before having to deal with possible consequences. Paulo had to deal with them, after all. And he’s a guy. Imagine what could happen to Daisy, the girl known as the sensitive little sister. :S

Paulo is so sensitive. I love seeing the result of that line of decisions portrayed as very true to life. I always liked him. :x

Spladle of Doom August 28, 2013, 2:53 PM EST.

Comment ID #257892

we are not saing you are a baby :) but i think its toos soon :x soo.. well its your life, your body, your decision, soo good luck for you 2 ;)

rex_inizaky August 28, 2013, 3:00 PM EST.

Comment ID #257893

Judging you Shelby.

In a related note, when parents have the attitude of “doesn’t matter its going to happen anyway, so I’ll tell them it’s okay and buy her birth control” It’s just as irresponsible as the parents who say “Abstinence!” without explaining why. Either way, you aren’t talking to your kid about it.

She is a baby about it. She’s shouting her plans in the middle of the school. It’s going to get around and its going to hurt when people start talking about her (whether she goes through with it or not). And Abbey (poor guy) doesn’t even know.

Because teens are teens, hell yeah they are immature about it. And they are going to say some ugly things if it gets out or she gets knocked up.

Furthermore, doing it doesn’t make you an adult.

Stupid Daisy is stupid. And still a child.

Judging_you August 28, 2013, 3:13 PM EST.

Comment ID #257894

@Oceanus92 I bet Paulo’s sandwich didn’t taste as good as it did a minute ago… lolz!

Next On The “Let’s Be Mean To Paulo Show”

Abbey comes to Paulo seeking relationship advice!!

BWAAA! Hahahahaha!

5Cats August 28, 2013, 3:24 PM EST.

Comment ID #257895

You know what? She is gonna do it with person whom SHE LOVES! Paulo did it with some b_itchy cat, not with person whom he loved. Even if there gonna be any problem after that she will be able to discuss it with Abbey. She has someone who will go through the same thing with her, who loves her.

Jane Lon August 28, 2013, 3:25 PM EST.

Comment ID #257897

pouting daisy is literally the cutest thing in the comic’s recent memory

boopbeep August 28, 2013, 3:28 PM EST.

Comment ID #257898

I made a comment on the previous page as a response to another comment, but I was too late to get any responses, so I’ll re-post it here in the hopes of a meaningful discussion:


You sir, or madam, are a rare breed indeed. I am impressed at your parenting methods and I would gladly tip my hat to you if I was wearing one. Everything stated in your post makes perfect sense, although, I don’t entirely agree with pre-marital coitus.

Now I’m gonna nip this inevitable flame war right in the hoo-haa right now:

I’m not gonna condemn anyone for pre-marital sex because that would be very inappropriate and narrow-minded, but I do agree that it’s the parent’s responsibility to inform and educate the child/children about both the joys and the dangers. Being raised with Christian values, I do not feel the need to force my beliefs upon ANYONE or condemn anyone because their way of life doesn’t coincide with mine; I’d rather share with any who wishes to learn & share with me. That being said, call me what you will, but I waited until I was married, which was exactly 3 years ago today btw and I can safely say that it was well worth the wait. That’s my $0.02, take it however you wish; preferably with a little gin & vermouth to make it go down nice & easy

I really do love AbbeyxDaisy. I said it before & ah-mo say it agin, if they were to get married & start a family, they would be a beautiful family

kaminari683 August 28, 2013, 3:30 PM EST.

Comment ID #257899

Is the center panel in:

A foreshadowing?

You’ll laugh when you see it.

5Cats August 28, 2013, 3:32 PM EST.

Comment ID #257900



Naoki August 28, 2013, 3:33 PM EST.

Comment ID #257901

dammit Daisy he’s not treating you like a baby he’s trying to protect you

Dusk Delusion August 28, 2013, 3:35 PM EST.

Comment ID #257902

@Dusk Delusion
There’s being protective, and then there’s being overprotective.

Paulo’s well on his way into the latter territory due to his dislike of Abbey and viewing Daisy as the little sister he never had.

Rad August 28, 2013, 3:52 PM EST.

Comment ID #257903

Pouting Daisy is super cute.

Fluffy August 28, 2013, 4:00 PM EST.

Comment ID #257904

Daisy is planning on losing her virginity to a boyfriend of over a year, whom she loves, and safely. I’m pretty sure there are worse ways to lose it (ie Paulo who was horny and wanted to feel cool) so everyone calling her a baby is pathetic, lol. Sex isn’t the be all and end all people make it out to be. She is safe, consensual, and happy with her boyfriend. What are you expecting, a marriage arc?

Mollington August 28, 2013, 4:15 PM EST.

Comment ID #257905

Any chance on an unrated comic involving Daisy and Abbey? :love:

Tired of Lucy August 28, 2013, 4:18 PM EST.

Comment ID #257906

Taeshi, why you gotta make my fave female character so easy to hate?

Sheichii August 28, 2013, 4:34 PM EST.

Comment ID #257907

Why dah faq would Paulo even make daisy not do it? She’s influenced easily by people! you know that Paulo! I bet this gurl :/ would be like, “UH-UH! NO U DIDN’T PAULO! *punched Paulo in dah face*”
If all goez well, Daisy will live hapily ever after. If tashie redo’s the story… God I will throw a table at my face… (how do I do that though) :nope:

Somebody August 28, 2013, 4:39 PM EST.

Comment ID #257908

Daisy is my baby ;~;

Zany August 28, 2013, 4:58 PM EST.

Comment ID #257909

;_; You out like one though

Markio August 28, 2013, 5:07 PM EST.

Comment ID #257910

Yay! Sex for everyone! It’s not a big deal. Just like having a baby due to faulty condom! Yay for babies! Especially when you’re young and you’re parents are doing whole raising routine! YAY!

Of course that’s not how the hymen works! Silly people. Hymen wouldn’t waste his time on healing or other pansy stuff! He’s busy beating skyletor!

Commander_Zero August 28, 2013, 5:08 PM EST.

Comment ID #257911

And then Daisy got pregnant.

When she does, she will find herself asking-
“How is babby formed?”

Pfff. Who wants to place bets that she’s going to be the pregnant girl in this high school story? Any takers?

ClammyMcClamClam August 28, 2013, 5:09 PM EST.

Comment ID #257912

LOL :smirk:

Nice-Hero August 28, 2013, 5:15 PM EST.

Comment ID #257913

A faulty condom is exceptionally rare.

Unless they were stored at too high/low temperatures and are also very old.

And then you’d also have to factor in that the time period where there’s actually a fertile egg available for the sperm to go down with is actually pretty damn small.

Not to mention how short the time period of which sperm can survive inside her uterus.

Long story short:
Cut that ********, condoms on their own are pretty damn safe.
Although additional redundancy is only good, and having a plan B is also strongly advised.

Rad August 28, 2013, 5:25 PM EST.

Comment ID #257914

Daisy looks so adorable in the last panel. XD Panel 8 though…Paulo looks like he’s telling her not to take the “path through hell” challenge or something. Seriously, he looks like the kind of guy who’s been through hell and was just asked by Daisy if she should do it to prove her worth or something.

I'll Eat Yourself August 28, 2013, 5:26 PM EST.

Comment ID #257915

@ Clammymcclamclam
I bet you nothing either choice will/won’t happen 50/50 ;)
Anyway daisy gots the guts

Mcturtle August 28, 2013, 5:28 PM EST.

Comment ID #257916

Wait…Jessica was really his first time!?! I…I thought….what….! @_@

BetaMonkey August 28, 2013, 5:30 PM EST.

Comment ID #257917

I have to say, is paulo gay or a *****? wtf. One thing is to give good advices, another is to act like this, especially due to his past actions, thats just not him(or it is his true face).

Made me comment August 28, 2013, 5:51 PM EST.

Comment ID #257918

Think about this:

Do you want to listen to Societal Law, which came into existence because a group of men thought up the idea, or should you listen to mother nature, which has existed since the dawn of our species? Law says we’re not adults till we’re 18, or even 21 in some places, but mother nature has decided Daisy is already an adult. If you’re capable of harboring the feelings of love and the desire for mating, then you are an adult in the eyes of nature.

I commend Daisy’s firm belief in being prepared and safe. I’m also not going to restrict her by saying she’s too young, or she’s not an adult. So, my stance on this?

Go get him girl.

Follarch August 28, 2013, 5:59 PM EST.

Comment ID #257919

Boy, I really hope that Daisy won’t fall into drama… In the other hand, she wants to give her all to his beloved, and that means also sex… It’s a cute couple, and I hope they continue as they are. Well , this is Taeshi’s webcomic ,sooo…What ill will is Taeshi plotting? Be wary, my friends!


Whinnie August 28, 2013, 6:09 PM EST.

Comment ID #257920

Mike has been sitting next to them for the entire conversation, and as I remember it he also has super sensitive hearing. Maybe will get some input by Mike about Daisys situation? She did love him, or is still in love with him, so I’m guessing anything he could say in this situation would carry a lot of weight for Daisy.

BornAgain August 28, 2013, 6:28 PM EST.

Comment ID #257921

“It can get complicated” is not good advice, it is failing to adequately explain what was going on and deflecting the topic. I’m not surprised by Daisy’s atitude, I’d be getting pissy too if I was looking for answers and people weren’t giving me straight answers or any coherent statement that would make me want to listen.

She is concerned with going about this the right way so I’m pretty sure that makes her better than even a lot of adults, let alone what would typically be expected for someone her age.

I hope she can get straight answers, because what she has been told so far is the same kind of ******** non-answers that cause teenagers problems in real life too.

MGlBlaze August 28, 2013, 6:35 PM EST.

Comment ID #257922

Daisy’s pout face is adorable. Still, this seems like the worst idea ever.

Trubeque August 28, 2013, 6:43 PM EST.

Comment ID #257924

Sounds like you’re viewing the situation different

Paulo’s advice is kinda just him… being all EW I DONT WANT TO THINK OF MY ‘lITTLE SISTER’ HAVING SEX, and not really mature advice. And then I think he’s just a little worried she’ll regret her first time like he did, but Daisy’s situation is different. She’s with her boyfriend for about a year, they both love eachother, and I say they’re both a little nervous and think they should take precautions incase things start to get more heated.

vul August 28, 2013, 7:06 PM EST.

Comment ID #257925

Its a good comic, and a good topic if the readers are well divided in their comments about a character’s actions.
The comic, “Moving in a new Direction” is right.
I’m excited to see how this chapter concludes.

Vanvoltra August 28, 2013, 7:13 PM EST.

Comment ID #257926

In an unrelated comment somewhere I the back page, I do congratulate whoever found a good way to educate her child.

However I agree with something earlier in this page about how its just as negligent to throw condoms at your children instead of talking to them about the pros and cons of sex. Even with other things like the dangers of driving, you are supposed to cover everything as a parent. But that’s my opinion on the matter.

I also disagree with someone about what mother nature dictates versus society. If we really followed mother nature, then we’d be hunting in the wild like all the other animals. We wouldn’t have jobs, infrastructure, marriage, or anything else we’ve come up with that nature doesn’t have.

Sorry, that comment was just very laughable. I also think its funny when people willingly want to compare themselves to an animal.

I_Love_Lucy August 28, 2013, 7:38 PM EST.

Comment ID #257927


Yxela007 August 28, 2013, 7:40 PM EST.

Comment ID #257928

No, Daisy, that’s NOT what Paulo means!

Subaru August 28, 2013, 7:48 PM EST.

Comment ID #257929


Monogamy, not necessarily marriage, is found in nature. Swans, for ine, pair for life and will not mate again after their partner dies. I don’t agree with the previous commenter that biologically ready to procreate means emotionally ready to have sex, but our biological “mother nature” given imperative Does have credence.

Eemia August 28, 2013, 7:51 PM EST.

Comment ID #257930

C:Computer/files/breakfastclub/ virginitydoesntmakeyouababy.png

Insanity_Prevails August 28, 2013, 7:58 PM EST.

Comment ID #257931


Just because it’s found in other species, that doesn’t necessarily mean humans are naturally monogamous too. Humans seem to display a really wide range of behaviors, and I suspect there are plenty of non-monogamous humans who are perfectly ethical and respectful to their partners.

Comparing human behavior to the behavior of other animal species is an excellent means of introspection, though idealizing or demonizing animal behavior is always something to be wary of.

Tau August 28, 2013, 8:44 PM EST.

Comment ID #257932


Something to think about is what happens to animals and humans when we do procreate at the beginning of sexual maturity age.

Teens, often have pre-mature children because their bodies are not probably able to handle having children. Similarly, animals are also known to have issues with offspring if the animal is close to the start of sexual maturing.

If nature intended all of the world to be able to hit that age of starting and start successfully procreating, then we’d be able to successfully and without repercussions. Similarly, without modern medicine, it is possible that such young people would have died after pregnancy at a young age. Fatalities related to birth were extremely high back when girls got married around 16. That’s because we aren’t built to do it yet.

Obviously teens having sex do not want children, but the fact that we can’t, shows you that mother nature is not really a solid argument for or against when it is appropriate for pre-teens to have sex. It is silly to consider such thoughts.

I_Love_Lucy August 28, 2013, 8:46 PM EST.

Comment ID #257933


Earlier in our species’ history, there was an evolutionary incentive to procreate ASAP that had to be balanced against problems resulting from premature pregnancy.

Tau August 28, 2013, 8:57 PM EST.

Comment ID #257934

I HATE THIS SERIES OH GOD. I mean at first I liked it, but now I’m just reading it hoping it gets back to some sense of goodness. The fact that everyone LIKES. EVERYONE. E.V.E.R.Y.O.N.E. I can’t handle this ****. There’s no commitment to be had except for Abbey and Daisy and she liked Mike before too. I’m glad Lucy finally did **** but how can you even get attached to these flimsy characters. I’m ripping my hair out. Paulo is so likeable and yet now I’ve come to just hate him. I just hate him. I hate all these ****ing characters.

Dissapointed August 28, 2013, 8:59 PM EST.

Comment ID #257935


Man I wish I could live in your world for a day. While I agree about negligence in sex ed. practices. Your statement about human kind is laughable. The only thing that seperates humans from animals is self awareness and the ability to make/use tools. Outside that we are still very animalistic. We still kill each other over territory, we still hunt for our food it’s just the tools we use that has changed, and yes we are still prone to the primal instinct to reproduce. As much as people want to deny it, **** sapiens are still animals. Just an animal that’s higher on the food chain and capable of conscious thought. Further beyond that, we haven’t evolved much beyond our medieval counterparts. The only thing that has changed is our tech, without that we are still the same paranoid, primal, and animalistic beings we were in the 15th century.

So considering that, it’s an unwinnable war to stop teens from screwing, their hormones are going nuts and their instinct (especially for males) is to screw whatever moves. The best thing you can do is teach them about safe sex and hope that what you teach takes in their minds, because the odds of you having the one that doesn’t have his/her first time before leaving high school aren’t in your favor.

buchanen_neket August 28, 2013, 9:09 PM EST.

Comment ID #257936

I think Abbey and Daisy should go for it. They’ve been together over/almost a year. They genuinely love each other (I think) and they care deeply for one another.
Get condoms, be safe, and keep an eye on your cycle.
You guys will feel better about it than Paulo did.

Of course, if they’re nervous, there’s non all-the-way stuff they can do and still have fun.

Mookie~ August 28, 2013, 9:13 PM EST.

Comment ID #257937

Daisy if you need to keep repeating it then its not true. you may not be a baby but you are defiantly not mature enough for this if that’s why your doing it.

matt August 28, 2013, 9:22 PM EST.

Comment ID #257938

Blame it on the alcohol, Paulo
Daisy, seriously we know you’re not baby if u were you wouldn’t be in high school sillyyyyyyy 8-D

Wafflesftw August 28, 2013, 9:30 PM EST.

Comment ID #257939


I’m highly logical for a lady. So part of this also has to do with me honestly believing that we are different than animals. And let’s be honest, we have highly intelligent brain capacity. (Sit in on an engineering class and you’ll get it). It’s amazing what happens when people apply themselves.

Be that as it may, some people are highly illogical and animalistic. But that doesn’t mean we aren’t capable at thinking things through. I refuse to accept that all people just do things without thinking first. We claim hormones as a default way of rationalizing or dismissing the growing sex-oriented generation everywhere. I know sex sells in a world where we glorify celebrities that scandalize their images for popularity. But that doesn’t mean we should forget that we are capable of so much more.

Furthermore, we should care more about educating our children about why you shouldn’t screw everything that moves. (And where the FDC is reporting an epidemic in sexually transmitted diseases.) It is only an failed war so long as parents continue to refuse acknowledgement or actively encourage it, so that they don’t have to talk to them about it.

Either way, you guys are going to do what you want so far as children and sex. I’m just here throwing in a wrench at the conventional ” No worries we aren’t going make you feel uncomfortable because you have hormones! :) ” The worst I can do is make you think about it for a second.

I_Love_Lucy August 28, 2013, 9:32 PM EST.

Comment ID #257940

…Daisy stop acting like a moron.
You’re more intelligent than this.
At least I believe so… :/

****** August 28, 2013, 9:42 PM EST.

Comment ID #257941

Daisy is… How these swag **** say… She thirsty!!

Tensa zangetsu August 28, 2013, 9:47 PM EST.

Comment ID #257942


No, I agree completely. Many people argue that humans AREN’T naturally monogamous as a species, but I firmly believe that it relies heavily on each individual. The poly lifestyle has actually fascinated me for many years—the dynamics of a three+person relationship would be amazing!—but I don’t personally believe I could lead a non-monogamous life. My main reason for pointing out swans was that I_love_Lucy had mentioned they disagree that “mother nature dictates versus society.” Obviously, “mother nature” dictated monogamy in swans, and American society dictates monogamy and marriage. In this case, “mother nature” and society overlap, and saying that either “mother nature” or society dictates anything ultimately and completely is as useless as arguing that either “nature” or “nurture” dictates how a child will turn out.

I couldn’t make my point as clearly earlier, because I was on my phone, and in math class. >.>

Eemia August 28, 2013, 10:05 PM EST.

Comment ID #257943


You say you’re highly logical “for a lady.”

Sexist much?

Eemia August 28, 2013, 10:07 PM EST.

Comment ID #257944


Not that’s just what people tell me. The world is sexist don’t just blame me.

I_Love_Lucy August 28, 2013, 10:22 PM EST.

Comment ID #257945

“Wait…Jessica was really his first time!?! I…I thought….what….! @_@”
@BetaMonkey: iirc? Jessica said it was HER first time as well!

I am SO STAYING OUT of this whole “humans are…” thing…
YOU humans can discuss it! WE CATS will point and laugh!

5Cats August 28, 2013, 10:37 PM EST.

Comment ID #257946

None Of U Should Be Hatin’ Every Person Just Because Thats What They Were Put In The Comic For, Like What If You Were In A Movie And Everyone Was Saying Y’er Stupid And Gay Just Because Thats What Y’er PAID TO DO! I’m Just Saying Layoff And See What’s Going To Happen Instead Of Judging A Book By Its Cover. Mad Lucy

Everyone's A Critic August 28, 2013, 11:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #257947

Listen to him, Daisy! Sex complicates EVERYTHING!

Xeneus August 28, 2013, 11:36 PM EST.

Comment ID #257948

@vul: I talked about it a lot more in the BCB Forums. I might as well quote myself on here.

“‘When Paulo said “It can get complicated” he was not calling you an idiot, he was being honest because it can get complicated especially when you are more emotionally involved and when you plan on doing it with somebody as emotionally unstable as Abbey.

I might as well point out that Abbey was nervous making out with Daisy earlier this chapter… how nervous do you think he will be when he’s trying to take the next step with Daisy?

Will Daisy even ask how Abbey feels about this or will she be so focused on making this happen that she won’t notice that Abbey is not ready for this?

It’s like Daisy is setting herself up for failure and it is really hard to believe she’s not a baby when she’s acting like a spoiled child. Pouting while saying “I’m not a baby.” Totally a mature thing to say. :smirk: ‘”

“I want Daisy to realize she is pushing for this so everyone could stop seeing her as a little sister, but this is a major life decision and the last thing she needs is to rush this. So far Daisy is doing great… she’s with somebody who deeply cares about her and she cares about him as well, she made it clear that she does not want to have a child yet, she’s making arrangements with Abbey, asking for advice from her closest friend, and she already did the smartest thing a teenager could do… she’s taking precautions so she doesn’t screw up her future.

The only problem I see is that she is constantly fantasizing about it which is not only affecting her performance in school, but is making me think that she is too emotionally involved in this. The last thing Paulo wants is for Daisy to get hurt and she will if she keeps up her perfect little fantasy of what will happen. My guess is that whatever fantasy she is building up for herself is not what is going to happen.

Also, it doesn’t matter how gentle Abbey is if she is forcing this on him… I’m worried that she might have set up extremely high expectations for their first time and I’m not sure how good it will play out.”

“I’m sure she is just annoyed from being treated as a kid as well, but that is no reason to act like that when your closest friend is trying to give you advice that you basically asked for. The point of Paulo’s comment went right over her head and that just makes me want to sigh in frustration. Oh well, maybe Daisy won’t have to regret her first time if everything goes well enough. It just might not be what she expects though. :(

@vul: I think you are missing a major point. Daisy is definitely acting maturely, but she doesn’t really know what she’s getting into. She is fantasizing about this in class, she’s getting herself too emotionally attached, and how much do you want to bet that she didn’t ask how Abbey felt about this yet? Point is that she may think she is ready, but she’s not. At least if this is the way she acts about her first time… like it is the most magical moment in her life. :(

supertails19 August 28, 2013, 11:56 PM EST.

Comment ID #257949


Kind of yes, kind of no. Yes, adults are capable of more controlled and rational thought, teens on the other hand are a different story. If anything it’s due to the volume of estrogen and testosterone coursing through the body during puberty. As hormones are what helps develop the secondary sexual characteristics in males and female, during the teen years of development it’s being released in a higher capacity. However, once a person exits puberty the amount of hormones being released slows, in a sense the body is switching from developing to simply maintaining. Therefore less hormones are needed. This is the biggest reason why teens are less rational than adults, the hormones have a very intense disorientation effect especially in the amounts being released into teenagers.

Hence why I say that the odds (and nature itself) are against you in trying to force teens to not have sex. Plus there’s the psychological of natural teen rebellion and how if you tell them sex is forbidden until 18 or older you’re just pushing them to want to do it more. The whole forbidden fruit angle, however if you educate them and rationalize with them then sex loses it’s appeal because it’s no longer taboo. Basically talk to them like an adult about the subject, remove the taboo status on it and you have a better chance of them either not doing it at all or at the very least they’ll be safe when they do.

buchanen_neket August 29, 2013, 12:05 AM EST.

Comment ID #257950

Daisy… can I slap you in the face? >: O What do you mean you’re not a baby? You’re most certainly not even old enough to have babies…? D: Jeebus.

Just-A-Lurker August 29, 2013, 1:06 AM EST.

Comment ID #257951

Food for thought. That’s what happens to kids these days.

I_Love_Lucy August 29, 2013, 1:07 AM EST.

Comment ID #257952

If the love is strong enough, then you can live through it. If one’s heart isn’t strong enough then one can get addicted to it like one would get addicted to a drug. Steel yourself and you can make it through anything.

Personally, I say wait till marriage. Life is ever moving and unpredictable, the heart is such a fragile thing in these times.
People are people so why should it be? You and I should get a long so awfully.

13thprotector August 29, 2013, 1:12 AM EST.

Comment ID #257953

Pouting Daisy is best Daisy, I love it! :D

Chiba August 29, 2013, 1:31 AM EST.

Comment ID #257954

I feel like the protection she uses will get botched up and while waiting for the results of the pregnancy test she proceeds to has a panic attack about her future since she’s worked so hard throughout school to be anything she wants to be. While Abbey and Paulo have an epic battle of big brother looking out for his sister vs boyfriend with a short fuse when it comes to Paulo. :o

Inn0c3ntGuy August 29, 2013, 2:31 AM EST.

Comment ID #257955

Daisy’s heading into unknown territory for her and Paulo’s being understandably cautious about the advice that he gives out…but…

*whistle*, man, these next few pages are gonna be nuts O_O

Chocothunda August 29, 2013, 3:07 AM EST.

Comment ID #257958

Ooooh das gonna backfire big-time. Now she’s GONNA have ta go ‘n do it!

Jessica U. Ingmann August 29, 2013, 5:17 AM EST.

Comment ID #257959

Uh oh…Daisy is getting rebellious…and curious!! The two most deadly combination of young teens!

wolven_DM August 29, 2013, 5:58 AM EST.

Comment ID #257960

I cringe at her naivety D: Paulo was only trying to help… :(

eatedurtaco August 29, 2013, 7:00 AM EST.

Comment ID #257961

sigh… If you were an adult you wouldn’t have to “prove’ it.

ChiefSlaya August 29, 2013, 8:08 AM EST.

Comment ID #257962

Lol, using abstinence propaganda as a argument.
Are you really gonna sink THAT low?

Just give up, you’ve repeatedly been proven wrong, both from condom facts, to the safety of a properly performed abortion and so on.
Now you’re just a joke.

Why do you insist on using bible belt logic when it’s inherently flawed?
The rest of the first world has moved past that a really long time ago, and for a reason.

Slick August 29, 2013, 8:11 AM EST.

Comment ID #257963

Awwww I have such mixed feelings on this~!! I think it’s cute that Daisy went to Paulo for help because it shows how close they are~ And I think it’s exciting to see Daisy and Abbey take their relationship further~!! Paulo is trying to help but I feel he’s trying to keep Daisy innocent for some reason~? Maybe a secret crush~? ;)

Squiidge August 29, 2013, 10:23 AM EST.

Comment ID #257964


I see your CBC and raise you a Penn & Teller Bull$#!*

buchanen_neket August 29, 2013, 10:33 AM EST.

Comment ID #257965


Truely if you think about how far humanity has came, back when they lived in small village groups. Children would be married off at 17 or whenever they reached sexual maturity, and were likely to have 3 or 4 babies before they reached the age of 25, if not more counting miscarriages or such. Also, as long as our lives are now is a fact of science, not mother nature. We live as long as we do by taking things that are not normally found in nature. Even though ages ago you would be lucky to even live to the age of 60, nature selected the most healthy and strongest to continue on.
So a child at the age of 17 or 18 or even younger has a kid, that is prematurely born, its not because of their age. You could be 35 (age proven by science to be the best age to have a baby) and still have a child born as a premature baby. The only thing that is difficult on a woman of a young age to have a child, is the size of her pelvis. If we think about history in this conversation, there is nothing wrong about it. Its the maturity to handle such a situation, and not to be alone when it arises.

Nicole August 29, 2013, 10:57 AM EST.

Comment ID #258022

@commander zero
1 - faulty condoms are rare if used and stored correctly.
2 - my point was about not treating a woman differently for losing her Virginity, because her body is really no different after. I didn’t mention babies. Sex doesn’t always result in kids, most of the time contraception works. But if you get some kinda pleasure from being patronising then go right ahead.
3 - I know the hymen doesn’t cover the whole ****** - I freaking said so in the original post. It has gaps to allow blood to pass through during a period, and sex if gentle enough usually moves it to the side. Rough sex can tear it though.

Ramona August 29, 2013, 5:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #258047

One day Paulo will figure out it was totally rape and he’ll be like whuuuuuuuuuuu

Tacsi August 29, 2013, 9:59 PM EST.

Comment ID #258058

really, are there really rape jokes in the comments

bort August 30, 2013, 3:40 AM EST.

Comment ID #258138

Paulo eats sandwiches really awkwardly xD

Lee August 30, 2013, 9:18 PM EST.

Comment ID #260678

You know, something I want to mention, it’s nice seeing Daisy star in a chapter again. It seems like since volume 2, she has been a little out of focus compared to the other 3 main characters, and it’s nice to see her have to time in the spotlight.

Cal October 1, 2013, 12:06 PM EST.

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