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Candybooru image #10982, tagged with Lucy Maevans_(Artist)

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Comment ID #71839

even after a few years i still cant get over what mike had said to her tbh
like it must've hurt real bad when someone you really care about clarifies that you are a bad person or something like that
It makes you believes it, you know?

Maevans on May 24, 2016.

Comment ID #71842

Yeah. I think Mike had a point, about Lucy clinging to him and that she did abuse him. The problem was the way he said it :c there's easier ways to break it down and talk to someone as an equal.

moozers on May 24, 2016.

Comment ID #71849

After years of being victim of her abuse, frustration grow in him. Also his friend constantly take Lucy side and treat him as source of whole problems

So he have whole right to Decembering her in my opinion

Alewita on May 24, 2016.

Comment ID #71850

Beside if he would try in 'easier way', she would probally won't stop her abusing

But we should still see, how Taeshi planned the story, so now every opinion will not have confrmation

Alewita on May 24, 2016.

Comment ID #71852

Well, at least Mike did say he wanted to start things over. Surely that's something, right?

Other than that; nice style!

Waldo on May 24, 2016.

Comment ID #71859

It is really sad when someone, whom you actually love(fraturnal, romantic, just friendship, et cetera), views you as the bane of their existence. In fact, it has driven many to suicidal thoughts and actions.

@Alewita: When it comes to Lucy's abuse, it seems improbable that it could ever start up from their. She already felt horrible due to their separation over her affection towards Mike. She was willing to do anything. Mike was "fed-up", although it was an irrational and delayed response. If he wanted to be the least bit relevant, he would have spoken of her abuses shortly after they fought and subsequently stopped being friends. Speaking of friends, others like Paulo were admittedly hurt less frequently, but Paulo has actually been hurt much worse by Lucy that Mike probably has. One specific point was how Lucy slammed him into a popcorn maker, cutting him with the shattered glass.

Now, digressing a bit from my line of thinking, remember the play? Mike saw pretty Lucy, remembered why he liked her(She's "hot" and all that), and immediately wanted to be friends again. Apparently, all it takes to change Mike's mind is to bring out the "inner beauty pageant winner" from within. And that explains his attraction to Sandy... Maybe... Okay, not really, but it does prove that Mike is hardly the "good guy" people see him as.

Shade on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71860

Wow, that post really didn't seem that long as I typed it. Now I've got to do something funny for people who suffered through that... But only on a slightly older post! Mwahahaha! XD

Shade on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71863

It is even more sad, when you have obsession about that person and try to hide your insecurities by taunting or even beating him or her

True, that Lucy feel horrible without Mike and even got mental break, but it not change the fact, that she act toward him like typical bully

It's not true that she was ready to do anything to raconcille with him. She not admit that what she did was wrong, until sending that message to Sandy from Mike phone (which has place after she was Decembered)

Knowing like she usually react, I can assume that it wouldn't make any effect if he wouldn't cut that toxic relation between them

Paulo was hurted more than Mike? Hmm...then Mike should think that he is lucky that Lucy treat him less brutal, which not change absolutly the fact that what she did was completly shameful (my definition of abuse is 'taunting and beating other without real reason)

And your last argument? Well...what you have in mind?
Because he finally saw her as bully, wouldn't stop him to see her physical atractivenes

Alewita on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71865

Sorry for few grammatical mistakes in text. I was writed when I was in hurry

Alewita on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71866

Well, I guess I should shorten my response to keep from taking all the room.
Your first paragraph, I do somewhat agree. In this specific situation, however, Lucy wouldn't have abused Mike. I stated this to dispel the idea that they could ever go back those old habits. Mike and Lucy both displayed the characteristics of a bully, Mike was more often verbal in his abuse(particularly in December), and Lucy was a physical bully. However, there are many times where Mike "fights back" after instigating.
Before December, Lucy was miserable, and somewhat crazed after being ostrisized by Mike. Psychologically speaking, even if they did become friends again, Mike could have demanded she quit if her violence really was such a problem. Paulo, despite the greater severity of his injuries, did nothing to stop Lucy. He neither fought back nor ostrisized her for her abuse or feelings.
My last point was a digression, not necessarily an argument for anything. However it does prove that Mike's real pull towards Lucy was her looks. And that would be why he felt like she was worth being his friend despite the violence.

Shade on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71867

Maevans, I'm really sorry that I'm taking up all this room with my rebuttals...
This just happens to be an issue I'm passionate about, due to my own life's similar situations.

Shade on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71870

I agree with most of what Shade says.

This 'Abuse' people whine about went both ways, sometimes even mike being the one that starts the fight. (Seriously, he started quite a few in the earlier chapters if you see who threw the first 'punch')

Of course, Mike was more verbal. But verbal damage can deal equal or more so than physical, especially if we're talking about what 'sticks' around longer.

And Alewita? Please learn more about the characters and their personalities before starting debates like this. If you honestly think Lucy would have continued being a bully before December happened, then you really haven't been paying attention to what was happening.

Also the art.. I think this is quite accurate, though I am unsure if she'll flat out say it. I think she'll be thinking it more, and just avoiding people overall.

Thinking things like:
"You don't deserve them."
"You'll only be a burden."
"You're a parasite."
"Worthless."
Etc.

Overall, Mike done a ton more damage to Lucy and himself than Lucy ever could, where she'll probably never fully recover, and will always have doubts at the very least. While Mike could recover from one of Lucy's 'abuses' after a single day, if he wasn't so self righteous.

Makes you think how much of a "regular Nice Guy" he is.

Kinroth on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71874

@everyone

guise pls just

stahp. :nope:

enjoy the artwork.

pls.

Lotsaspaghetti on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71879

#Shade - Mike's verbal abuse was just answer for Lucy's...let's just say, mostly physical abuse. He wasn't the person who start tormenting anybody

She was ostracised after she bullied Mike for years.
Mike may demand her to stop bulling him, but will she listen?
As soon as Mike will become less tough/angry Lucy will see his change as chance to back to old behavior. Mike just didn't wanted to back to this same toxic relationship

It was Paulo's decision to be content with Lucy behavior toward him. If he was ok, he has right to accept it

So in your opinion Mike would agree for Lucy behavior, because of her look?
You not noticed what I mean. I mean that Mike see Lucyas bully. But also see her as physically atractive person

#Kinroth - Mike start the fight. His 'starts of the fight' was only talks. He never hit her first. Also I never see him to fight back physically, so your argument about 'first punch' is rather invalid, since even what he said, don't gave Lucy right to punch him

I payed attention, despite of what you sayed. She may stop her shamefull behavior, but also acted like she did nothing wrong and tried to make Mike act like he was before. Only after he sayed what he think about her, she (in sms sended to Sandy) admited that her behavior was wrong

Mike did ton of damage? So you would prefer him being 'pushover', 'dodged nice guy'? He just ended relationship which bring him only pain

And before you ask - I am not think that his relation with Sandy is perfect. But even if Sandy is bad for him, it not change the fact, that Lucy is bad as well

#Lotsaspaghetti - True, you have right. I just don't wanted to show that Mike is not a monster who destroy Lucy's live and that she is responsible for December events at least as much as Mike

Alewita on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71883

You guys should join the IRC and discuss the topic (and people's art!) Would make things easier!

Waldo on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71889

True, Waldo...but you know...When people answer for your post on this site, you need to answer here to prove that they are wrong XDDD

Discussion can be addicted XD

Alewita on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71895

Rad style man

Scrublord on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71907

Lucy don't do the edgys ):

abigblackdonut on May 25, 2016.

Comment ID #71914

@alewita: Problem is, you haven't proven me wrong. All you've done is indirectly confront what I've said.

Now, I'm not saying Lucy's innocent, she's definitely got some issues socially and psychologically that need attention. However, Mike had several alternatives to the events of "December". The way you portray it presents Mike as innocent, but really, he was just ignorant, focused only on what affected him when it came to their relationship. They were both bullies, but my point was to reveal the more hidden factors, which have cause many suicides and school shootings. Neither was truly a monster, but they were far from perfect. It's just rather sad to me because I've watched this situation happen in real life. Neither of them escaped.

That said... I'm done "protecting" my point so that others can enjoy commenting on the art.

Shade on May 26, 2016.

Comment ID #71916

@Alewita, You are unreasonable. Not only have you ignored a lot of what I said, but you also haven't taken my advice.

No matter what I say, people like you will never change what you think, because you refuse to.

You don't even consider looking at it from both points of views... I'm done here, best not to create a wall if you aren't going to read it.

Kinroth on May 26, 2016.

Comment ID #71920

@everyone

pls. just...

stahp. :nope:

pls.

Lotsaspaghetti on May 26, 2016.

Comment ID #72010

@ everyone
DERPY LUCY!

Tinymike on May 30, 2016.