Take Heart — Page 18
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Comment ID #276184

:/

Eko February 28, 2014, 1:00 PM EST.

Comment ID #276185

Well….

Keyblade Dragon February 28, 2014, 1:00 PM EST.

Comment ID #276186

Neat! Reminds me of those candy grams back in middle school .

Christine February 28, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.

Comment ID #276187

Aww its so sad to see the tension between those two.

Rav February 28, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.

Comment ID #276188

What? What are seeing? Paulo actually being NICE to Abby? Course it’s all for daisy but still.

Johnnaman February 28, 2014, 1:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #276189

Mayor Luigi: Well….this is a fine pickle.

Twiggy February 28, 2014, 1:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #276190

Hey. At least he’s thinking about others now.

EDIT: Also, just noticed that Jazz’s book says “So Many Fish”

Sono February 28, 2014, 1:03 PM EST.

Comment ID #276191

This is actually very sweet. Although I maintain that Jazz has no reason to be rude to Paulo.

Zott February 28, 2014, 1:05 PM EST.

Comment ID #276192

I feel like this is going to make things worse..

Gabba February 28, 2014, 1:07 PM EST.

Comment ID #276193

you better to it, jazz.

Dragobir February 28, 2014, 1:07 PM EST.

Comment ID #276194

awww that´s actually a really cute idea that Paulo thought of here :)
Also, so much for Jazz being “so grown up”.

Tails February 28, 2014, 1:08 PM EST.

Comment ID #276195

Jazz at the last pannel….SO CUTE :love:

Nicole February 28, 2014, 1:09 PM EST.

Comment ID #276196

@Tails
It’s adorable isn’t it? D’aww :’D

HelTH February 28, 2014, 1:10 PM EST.

Comment ID #276197

Really. Wow. Paulo. I wouldn’t have expected this. You’re really putting everything you got to help Daisy. Or at least I think he is. If he’s going to have the school do something special for Abbey and Daisy then, wow.

But wow. Jazz on the last panel. It’s like ”you would really do that for someone”. Guess she’s thinking about the good times she had with Paulo.

Scaring little kids during Halloween. :P

Jonas97face February 28, 2014, 1:10 PM EST.

Comment ID #276198

Still would prefer to see PauloxJazz or PauloxRachel over PauloxLucy. I like where this is going, potentially.

daft_inquisitor February 28, 2014, 1:15 PM EST.

Comment ID #276199

@HelTH and @Jonas97face
yes indeed, this shows once again, that Paulo really cares way more about his friends than some people in here think.

Also, wow Jazz got really bitchy in the time she was not seen.

Tails February 28, 2014, 1:15 PM EST.

Comment ID #276200

It may work.
But Jasmine may not change her mind.

HongKat February 28, 2014, 1:16 PM EST.

Comment ID #276201

I get that she’s in highschool but I dont get why she has this animosity towards Paulo. She was breaking up with him as well, and while yes she was probably hoping to be with him again she doesn’t really get a say in that when they split, again, something she was planning to do as well. Im just miffed because she went and called paulo out for being immature (which he was/is) when she’s being immature herself.
But yeh, she looks super cute in that last panel.

shmid February 28, 2014, 1:20 PM EST.

Comment ID #276202

*squints at Paulo*

Gio February 28, 2014, 1:28 PM EST.

Comment ID #276203

I like the shift in Jazz’s attitudeonce Paulo tells her what´s all about.

FEPS February 28, 2014, 1:29 PM EST.

Comment ID #276204

@Twiggy HEY I’M GRUMP!

BladeMaster February 28, 2014, 1:29 PM EST.

Comment ID #276205

@shmid
yeah exactly!

Tails February 28, 2014, 1:38 PM EST.

Comment ID #276206

I like the idea of the friendship roses. Abbey and Daisy have clearly ended on a bad note and perhaps if they were to build their relationship on a strong friendship, there may be a chance for them in the future

-cries as an AbbeyxDaisy shipper-

LadyMollington February 28, 2014, 1:41 PM EST.

Comment ID #276207

Why is everyone saying that she’s being a bitch? Yes she isn’t exactly friendly, but after everything that’s happened, it would be unrealistic for her to be all “Hey Paulo old buddy! Sure thing, I’ll do whatever you want no questions, just say the word!”

Floweramon February 28, 2014, 1:49 PM EST.

Comment ID #276208

I imagine Jazz being like “ok Paulo it’s a shame they broke up but I can’t spend all of the school’s money on a fake fundraising campaign just because one couple broke up”.
haha
as if.

Somewhat February 28, 2014, 1:51 PM EST.

Comment ID #276209

Smooth move Paulo, switching it from “this isn’t about us” to “it’s about them”, so “do it for them”. Paulo probably knows she would do it “for them”, but he stands to get something out of this too, obviously.
I’ve never been in a relationship before, but I can deduce as much as above, and saying “this isn’t about us” and “it’s about them” just makes me want to punch myself in the gut, but it’s a way to get the point across.

Blank On Purpose February 28, 2014, 1:53 PM EST.

Comment ID #276210

At least he’s not trying to get back with her right? But I’m sure that he understands that he has been immature and that he’s doing his best to be more mature. Anyway, that may or may not be what this moment in the chapter is about but that is something to consider about.

Keyblade Dragon February 28, 2014, 2:01 PM EST.

Comment ID #276211

@Christine

I had one of those, I had a secret admirer.

Keyblade Dragon February 28, 2014, 2:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #276212

@Twiggy
@BladeMaster
I’M NOT SO GRUUUUUMP!

AND WERE THE GAME GRUMPS!

Keyblade Dragon February 28, 2014, 2:04 PM EST.

Comment ID #276213

Wow, 3-4 consecutive comments in a row.

Keyblade Dragon February 28, 2014, 2:04 PM EST.

Comment ID #276214

Having had a similar situation to this, I completely understand Jazz’s attitude. They broke up, that’s always a sad thing, and the friendship automatically changes in like a day when it happens. They were close, maybe even loved each other, and that stopped. He’s had Rachel and (sorta) Lucy to feel affectionate towards, and moving on is the best way to get over a relationship. She might not have that, especially with how busy she is. She misses their relationship, and I’m sure she misses him. It’s probably not on purpose, but they really aren’t friends at the moment. Him coming to her causes an obvious problem for her, and so this is to be expected.

On another note, a lot of people are happy that he’s put Abbey and Daisy’s relationship before his needs, but I don’t think that’s the case. From my point of view, he’s being manipulative. Though I know he cares about Daisy, I think what he’s after with this is Rachel. He’s using how Jazz feels about their friends to his advantage, and also purposely not bringing up Rachel around his ex. Both of those are to take advantage of her, which I don’t really see as caring.

Pikahu February 28, 2014, 2:09 PM EST.

Comment ID #276215

@ MYPACK WOW! That was definitely not expected but was very thoughtful on paulos part though. But as cute as it is it seems like a bad idea to make it a huge public event. If it works out every ones happy and all lovey dovey. But if rejection happens then it will be embarrassed hart break for all to see and gossip about around the school. Ow well. Come on jasmine pull that stick out your butt and do it for Daisy and old time sake of being paulos little shoulder monkey. I’m sure it will be fun.

Blue fox February 28, 2014, 2:15 PM EST.

Comment ID #276216

@Pikahu
That.

Paulo just isn’t a good enough friend to Abbey to do such a thing for him. He’s just using Abbey and Daisy to get together with Rachel. Sure, he also wants to help Daisy, but that’s just a coincidence. I think he would have tried something like this even if Abbey and Daisy were still together.

__noname__ February 28, 2014, 2:16 PM EST.

Comment ID #276217

@Pikahu
@__noname__

I have to say you’re both wrong on that one. Paulo has never shown himself in the comics to be that heartless or manipulative. I feel like you’re superimposing traits of Augustus onto Paulo.

If this was Augustus we were talking about, sure. Maybe. But not Paulo. He’s more straight forward with what he wants. He’s never tried to be that sneaky about it or backhanded. It’s just not his style.

Tsumi February 28, 2014, 2:19 PM EST.

Comment ID #276218

@ Pikahu/__noname__ I think he is doing it for Daisy. Him getting with Rachel is just a plus or taking advantage of the situation. I wouldn’t say he’s manipulating any one. He is a good guy and I don’t think he would use Daisy for his own selfish needs or wants.

Blue fox February 28, 2014, 2:26 PM EST.

Comment ID #276219

@Everyone Conspiring

When have we ever been right about what happens next in this comic? :P

Kris February 28, 2014, 2:33 PM EST.

Comment ID #276220

@Kris
it´sa 50/50 situation, either we are more than right or so wrong that it hurts :D

Tails February 28, 2014, 2:44 PM EST.

Comment ID #276221

@Blue fox and @Tsumi
I have to agree with you on that, Paulo is way too straightforward to use such a trick.

Tails February 28, 2014, 2:48 PM EST.

Comment ID #276222

And as I suspected, I was pleasantly surprised. Paulo did indeed needed Jasmine’s help but it’s not for him, which I suspected. I know Paulo and I know he wouldn’t have done such a thing. Now to wait another 72 hours to see the next exciting part of this tale.

Gate-senpai February 28, 2014, 2:50 PM EST.

Comment ID #276223

STILL doesn’t make him a good person.

he’s done far too much [or too little] to be worthy of any forgiveness.

now kill him, hell awaits its new flesh-condom.

Thanatos February 28, 2014, 2:53 PM EST.

Comment ID #276224

Jesus friggin’ Christ. Do you really think Paulo is that conniving, you guys? I really have to wonder if none of you have any actual friends in your lives if you can’t understand just doing nice things for people who you care about.

Ravako February 28, 2014, 2:54 PM EST.

Comment ID #276225

I stand by my earlier statement. She owes Paulo nothing.

peters February 28, 2014, 3:09 PM EST.

Comment ID #276226

@everyone

To be fair, Jazzy liked Paulo, and he originally was going to bang her then leave. Then he dated her while loving Lucy, and when he breaks it off he’s with Rachel. I’d be ****** too. She’s got a right to be frigid if she doesn’t feel like helping him. She could also think the flowers are for another girl of Paulos and she’s jelly.

Also. Daisy is using Paulo to fix her self-inflicted problem with Abbey, and Paulo is using Daisy to fix his self-inflicted Rachel jealousy issues.

They are both using each other really. Does it matter? Personally I think Paulo was trying to make Daisy feel better out of friendship when he invited her to wherever they were. But the way the last page went, I don’t think Daisy is thinking about anyone but herself. Abbey broke it off because of HER, but she’s looking for a way to waltz back in anyway, oblivious to why Abbey was so upset with her. It’s like she wasn’t even listening.

Lickit&stickit February 28, 2014, 3:16 PM EST.

Comment ID #276227

Yeah, you go Paulo! Show everyone that you care about your friends! Also Jazz’s look in that last panel is so sad. She looks like she wants to help, but maybe the school doesn’t have the funds. I guess we will see on the next page!

Nenekiri February 28, 2014, 3:21 PM EST.

Comment ID #276229

Aw ;_;

Dragonoa February 28, 2014, 3:58 PM EST.

Comment ID #276230

Good on you Paulo

TheGentleman February 28, 2014, 4:08 PM EST.

Comment ID #276231

Happily surprised by this to see that Paulo isn’t jumping into asking Jazzy out. I’m not pulling back from idea it could happen, but I hope not. I’m very happy to see Paulo thinking of others and even have done some research perhaps since he knows that yellow roses mean friendship. It may have been a random fact he knew or something he looked up, but either way, I’m happy with this page. It did not go the way I was expecting it to and I love when that happens!

No long response from me today…just finished writing a 4 page paper for sociology plus working on my own story…I’m all out of words lol

FireFang February 28, 2014, 4:11 PM EST.

Comment ID #276232

yeah, for abbey. more like for yourself

Phillip February 28, 2014, 4:17 PM EST.

Comment ID #276234

@Bluefox
I don’t know but I feel as though this will lead to a second rejection for Daisy.

No wait a minute… ahh bah. no it won’t work unless she says she loves him. I just don’t think Abbey is willing to change his position that easily and that’s why she has to do that specific thing.

HelTH February 28, 2014, 4:47 PM EST.

Comment ID #276235

@Phillip

Its sort of for both of them. But yes, Paulo is using a lot of this situation for himself, but to be honest, I would too. I know I would try to get what I need in one go if I had to see someone I broke up with for someone else, especially over a romance-related subject. Also, think about “winning racheal back”. Would you tell that person you broke up with for someone else that you’re going for ‘another’ girl agian? Its best to withdraw those sorts of comments to refrain from hurting that person. That was actually smart for Paulo to say, but Jasmine still seems to have caught on a bit.

Anyway.. I don’t think this is going to end well. If it doesn’t work, confronting Jasmine will be in vain. If it does, Paulo will give Racheal a “friend flower” and just make it worse. Daisy will also give Abbey a “friend flower”, which could hold varying results. Just what I think might happen.

Fangs February 28, 2014, 4:48 PM EST.

Comment ID #276236

Aww this makes me ship them again :(. To be honest, after seeing Paulo be whiny I can’t really ship him with Lucy anymore. And I really don’t like PauloxRach. So here’s hoping PauloxJazzy works out again.

Blarg February 28, 2014, 4:55 PM EST.

Comment ID #276237

Guys, Jazzie has every reason to act how she is. They didn’t exactly end on the best of terms and after not speaking for however long, the FIRST thing he does is ask her for a favor. Yeah, I wouldn’t be eager to help him, either.

potatopie February 28, 2014, 5:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #276238

THIS IS FREAKIN’ ADORABLE (not like you didn’t already know that ;) )

The Scarlet Tailed Fox February 28, 2014, 5:16 PM EST.

Comment ID #276239

I love how Jazz only wants him to go away ; her face is just like “please **** off”

Red February 28, 2014, 6:20 PM EST.

Comment ID #276240

Not what I was expecting from Paulo. Nice.

Jerad February 28, 2014, 6:43 PM EST.

Comment ID #276241

I think the commies are afoot.

GooltheFool February 28, 2014, 7:29 PM EST.

Comment ID #276242

All in all, Paulo deserves respect for this, going out of his way to help one of his best and oldest friends… And it must be hard talking to Jasmine, after what happened between them and the things she said to him; not to mention that his idea seems kinda silly at first :P I’m glad that he’s maturing some, I knew he had this side in him :)

I also hope that Jasmine overlooks her bitterness and listens to Paulo. He is a sweet guy at heart trying to do something nice.

I wonder, if this plan does follow through, if he’ll send a rose to Jazz? To show her that he still cares for her… if not romantically. (it’d be better than how Mike dealt with Lucy, anyway ;) )

Great new story line so far, and I’m starting to really like the new art… it really does these two justice! Keep it up @taeshi !

Sambo February 28, 2014, 10:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #276243

*Hits cuteness button*…*TABLE FLIPS BECAUSE IT WON’T WORK WITH TOO MUCH CUTENESS ALREADY PRESENT*

The Scarlet Tailed Fox February 28, 2014, 10:35 PM EST.

Comment ID #276244

Paulo thinking about others, this is going so interesting x3

eagle February 28, 2014, 11:00 PM EST.

Comment ID #276245

Hmmm….Paulo actually going out of his way, risking stepping on a drama bomb by going to Jasmine, to rekindle the relationship between the girl he loves like a sister ;_; and the guy he loves to hate Furious Abbey …and notice, he said “I just thought this might make them closer again”.

Looks like he’s concerned for both of them, not just Daisy. I have a new-found respect for our little Somali kitty 8-)

Also, I didn’t think Jasmine could get any cuter!! :O :love: She actually maintains a delicate balance between cute and pretty. The colors work very well too!

kaminari683 February 28, 2014, 11:59 PM EST.

Comment ID #276246

@ HelTH unfortunately I kinda think that as well. I can see it now………Daisy go’s to give abbey a yellow flower of friendship and abbey go’s all Phoenix Wright and says REJECTION! Paulo has a nice idea and all but it could send the wrong message to Abbey of just wanting to remain friends. Evrey one knows she should forget about jerkface go get a red rose to give to Abbey and tell him she loves him. But it’s always easier said then done. Abbey longs to hear those words. I think if she could at least SAY she loves him he would be willing to continue on with her.

Blue fox March 1, 2014, 12:35 AM EST.

Comment ID #276247

:) This is exactly y i love this series so freakin much, it keeps me guessin. I mean i thought this had something to do with racheal…mabey it does i donno. But it seems at first glance its for abby and daisy, even though the last page said it was for racheal and paulo and some scheme involving the parent trap…..I know the parent trap tail real well, i watched the original alot as a kid. It makes sense trying to bring daisy and abby together. Not shure with Rach and Paulo. Hmmm. I’ll just have to wait and C.

JustSomeCritic March 1, 2014, 3:04 AM EST.

Comment ID #276248

I,M BAACK! But probably not for long, even after an almost yearlong hiatus, I just started tearing up again when I remembered eveything. So sad!

curtis March 1, 2014, 3:08 AM EST.

Comment ID #276249

This would backfire in real life/

Icsifil March 1, 2014, 3:14 AM EST.

Comment ID #276250

Dat Jasmine hairstyle. Like it :love:

Konstantine March 1, 2014, 5:27 AM EST.

Comment ID #276251

****in’. I want them back together again. I know it isn’t gonna happen. Jazzy’s too damn responsible. I just want them to be super awkward with each other again. It’s adorable. Also reeeally hoping pauloxrachel isn’t where that’s goiiiin.

Chrow March 1, 2014, 10:09 AM EST.

Comment ID #276252

Am I the only one who thinks this isn’t going to work? Abbey should just be left the heck alone. I recently just had a break up myself a couple of months back and my ex and I just started being comfortable around each other again YESTERDAY.

Give each other space!

SnowyPaint March 1, 2014, 10:30 AM EST.

Comment ID #276253

@SnowyPaint

Daisy just wants to force her intentions on Abbey. It’s what she always does. Much like she forced Mike to the amusement park “as friends” then completely was all over him until he yelled at her to back the hell off.

I am also in the “Abbey should be left alone” group because I don’t think Daisy can love him better than her Mike feelings, and I don’t think he deserves to be second fiddle and emotionally invested into her “getting over Mike process.” Because it still might not work if she doesn’t grow up and let it go.

And honestly, that’s not fair to Abbey. I’m sick of the comments acting like he has an obligation to help make Daisy love him or stay with her because that’s what couples do when things get tough. Bull, “when things get tough” is not the same as “She’s just not that into you.”

Tough is, “Oh look baby we need to work on how we disagree,” Daisy’s disinterest in Abbey is, “I still want us to be together, so I’m not lonely, but I love Mike first, and no I can’t/won’t let it go so deal with it for who knows how long because I deserve that from you.”

I hope Rachel ends up more with Oreo, and I hope Abbey ends up rejecting Daisy anyway. These two need better love interests who care about them first. Paulo and Daisy just want to have their cake (Lucy/Mike) and eat it too (Rachel/Abbey).

Lickit&stickit March 1, 2014, 11:26 AM EST.

Comment ID #276254

“I heard you just broke up with Rachel, Paulo. This is obviously a plan to get YOU TWO back together, not Daisy and Abbey.”
“No, Jazz! I mean, uh… not directly! It’s a favor for Daisy!”
“Uh-huh. Sorry, I’m not buying it.” *walks away*
“JAAAAAASSSSMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IIINNNE!”

maishul March 1, 2014, 12:19 PM EST.

Comment ID #276255

You people have So much hate for someone thats actually a really a good person and a good friend. Doe you guys see everyone who’s good as a evil *******, if you where to see the actual Jesus Christ, would you call him a impostor and have him crucified for the second time rite on the spot,Damn.

void March 1, 2014, 12:53 PM EST.

Comment ID #276256

@void:
Are you really comparing one of the cast with Jesus Christ :/

Just don’t. Ok. Just don’t

Jonas97face March 1, 2014, 12:55 PM EST.

Comment ID #276258

@Jonas I’m not, did I say exactly that paulo is like Jesus? No I didn’t, that’s twisting my words a little bit isn’t it?

void March 1, 2014, 1:59 PM EST.

Comment ID #276259

@void:

I just find it kinda silly to actually compare someone to jesus, mohamed or whatever even if you don’t really mean it. Also no one is really crucifying Paulo (except for @Thanatos XD ). I support what Paulo is doing (although he shouldn’t spending the schools money on them if that’s the case :/ ). But I’m still hoping that his plan will fail so that there will be more drama. But I agree that Paulo is doing a good thing and some people are will disagree with that. But I don’t think they are raging over Paulo as you might be trying to say by saying that they are crucifying him. You know what. I think there are more people ranting at Daisy then they are ranting at Paulo.

Sorry for the long comment. Hope you people didn’t get bored ;)

@Tails:
I think Jazz will say ”ok” and do it but she’ll say ”but only for them” :). That’s my guess. Whats yours? (If she does then it will be really cute if she makes some kind of an annoyed face).

Jonas97face March 1, 2014, 2:13 PM EST.

Comment ID #276260

@ Lickit&stickit but if Daisy keeps going after abbey that could be a good thing. If she just leaves him alone he could think she’s not trying to talk to me so it really was a complete waste of time. But if she pursues him he could think that she dose care for him enough to chase after him. I think Daisy should go after abbey. It’s always better to deal with problems with someone by your side instead of by your self. Daisy was there for abbey with his rage problems but abbey should not help Daisy with her obsession problem? Yea it is a lot easier to just walk away then it is to help. Abbey is taking the easy way out instead of dealing with the problem.

Blue fox March 1, 2014, 2:47 PM EST.

Comment ID #276263

@Jonas97face
“I think Jazz will say ”ok” and do it but she’ll say ”but only for them” :). That’s my guess. Whats yours? (If she does then it will be really cute if she makes some kind of an annoyed face).”

Well it could go in 2 directions now: either she will help him with it and he and jazz could maybe bond a bit again (in a friendship way) while working on it, because she realized that he has indeed matured a bit. Or she could flat out still say no because it would mean “unnessesary drama” for her….but the second option would really suck and only make her seem rather selfish and uncaring about others. (Which she already has implied with her “drama-free year” comment on the last page, which in turn also implies that she even tried to stay away from the drama in her own friendship circle - which is surely happening in some kind of way - that would make her a rather bad friend o.o)

@Blue fox
I agree with you, in this case going after Abbey might be the better option, because abbey WANTS her to show that she really cares for him and seeing her fighting for him may convince him to staying with her. And also, you are right, he took the easy way out of it, althrough he really should have known better by now how hard it can be and how long it can take to get over something and that it is even harder without the help and support of others.

Tails March 1, 2014, 3:44 PM EST.

Comment ID #276264

Man, Daisy really IS incapable of facing her own problems.
Instead of getting over Mike, she managed to guilt-trip Paulo into doing something to guild-trip Abbey back.

Why the hell doesn’t she guilt-trip herself over the fact Mike is 100% off limits instead?
She’s making Lucy look like a angel in comparison to herself.

Alas March 1, 2014, 4:34 PM EST.

Comment ID #276265

@Tails
“…which in turn also implies that she even tried to stay away from the drama in her own friendship circle…” Or maybe drama doesn’t happen as frequently to her and her friends, that could be an option.

Holly March 1, 2014, 5:29 PM EST.

Comment ID #276266

@Blue fox

Abbey doesn’t really have bad rage problems. And honestly, it isn’t Daisy helping him, it’s his therapist.

Speaking as someone that sees a therapist, I tell my other about visits, but they aren’t allowed in the room, (unless it was for something like couples therapy). There are strict rules about this so the person in need doesn’t hold back info in fear of their other’s opinions.

So this idea that Daisy goes with Abbey to every session and has really “been there” to solve his management issue is a major off the wall claim.

Also, Abbey being prone to outbursts does not affect their relationship. Abbey doesn’t angrily yell at Daisy or belittle her so it’s not a part of them as a couple. Daisy, however, is obsessed/in love with ANOTHER GUY.

It’s completely different! Furthermore, Abbey’s issues are sourced back to his childhood. If Daisy leaves him over it, then she isn’t very accepting of Abbey’s mental coping. If Abbey leaves Daisy over her being unable to love? That’s not an issue you are supposed to work through. You can’t force someone to love you. You can help someone cope with deep childhood trauma.

Lickit&stickit March 1, 2014, 5:33 PM EST.

Comment ID #276267

@Tails

Tails you are such the lunatic. How on earth is Jazzy obligated to be Paulo’s friend after he dumped her for another girl? Not everyone has to be friends with their ex. If she doesn’t help him, that is a result of the way Paulo broke up with her.

And outside of knowing them through Paulo, Jazzy didn’t have a relationship to Daisy either. She’s not in their crowd. I also don’t think she’s obligated to make up a random event for Paulo’s pleasure that spends the school’s money.

You do realize that could get her in trouble at school?

It’s just the way you think Daisy has a legitimate problem that Abbey is obligated to “be there for.” Abbey doesn’t have any problems to work through with her, because it’s something that is totally on her to fix. Abbey can’t MAKE her love him. Daisy just won’t grow up long enough to get away from Mike so that she can get over that he doesn’t (and never will) want her.

Lickit&stickit March 1, 2014, 5:39 PM EST.

Comment ID #276268

@ Lickit&stickit I said Daisy was there for abbey not solving his problem. And it’s not so much the rage I was getting at it was the fact she wanted to do something about it even if she couldn’t. It’s in abbeys best interest to help Daisy because he loves her and nobody else’s is going to do it. Again not all people can be strong willed and stand on there own. You expect to much from cat people. Or should Daisy go to a therapist to? Abbey could have spoke up but instead remaind silent and scowled. He should have helped Daisy because he new full well she has a ***** for mike. He should have been trying to find out how to direct that ***** tords him. You may not be able to make someone who doesn’t love you love you. But hey! You can try and make someone who is obsessed over someone who doesn’t love them love you. It will be hard but it possible. I just think abbey took the easy way out and didn’t follow through. And don’t worry about the schools money budget. There pretty rich. :smirk:

Blue fox March 1, 2014, 8:16 PM EST.

Comment ID #276269

You have done it again, Taeshi. Good work! :)

SplatterCandy March 1, 2014, 8:27 PM EST.

Comment ID #276270

-_- this comic makes me feel depressed yet excited because so much drama in it…
Makes me want moare! Mad Lucy
Also, I wonder if Lucy will ever make an appearance again… Sure, Tashi said she’ll do it, but in the late future; yet it’s been a LOOONG TIME…

Poor Daisy… ._.

Lyrix March 1, 2014, 8:38 PM EST.

Comment ID #276271

“You may not be able to make someone who doesn’t love you love you. But hey! You can try and make someone who is obsessed over someone who doesn’t love them love you. It will be hard but it possible.”

Bluefox, I have no words for this mind-numbing contradiction.

My only other statement is that there is nothing wrong with Abbey giving up on a lost cause. A year is a year. No change with Daisy, other than “I wish I still had someone to date”, means all his efforts were wasted anyway.

Lickit&stickit March 1, 2014, 9:02 PM EST.

Comment ID #276272

@jonas,ya that is all true, we’ve already established that what ever a character does in this comic whether they succeed or not will always
Makes another dramatic turmoil.

void March 1, 2014, 9:55 PM EST.

Comment ID #276273

Jesus, Someone buy Daisy a ***** already.
Then she has something she can use for her own pleasure instead of someone.

There, problem solved, now where’s my Nobel prize and honorary cash grant?

Mystico March 2, 2014, 12:09 AM EST.

Comment ID #276274

Where the hell is Augustus in all this? She’s AVAILABLE!!!

He needs to get in on this while he has the chance ;)

Derrick March 2, 2014, 12:15 AM EST.

Comment ID #276275

@Mystico

This is a reasonable option. I second this with a suggestion for her to invest in a boyfriend pillow. ;)

http://www.gizmomagazine.com/boyfriend-pillow/

She can even add a Mike picture on it.

Lickit&stickit March 2, 2014, 1:02 AM EST.

Comment ID #276276

@Twiggy
Look! Death approaches!


Mycruba

Knight March 2, 2014, 1:51 AM EST.

Comment ID #276277

@Lickit&stickit
First of all, continuusly insulting me does not make you right!
Also, if Daisy would not have been there and giving abbey comfort and support, the would not even have worked up the courage to go to the therapist and to want on working on his anger/trust/envy/violence issues by now! (which he CLEARLY has/had and just recently got better).
And Daisy HAS a legimate problem

And you didn´t read what i was saying, because i said (and i quote!):
” he and jazz [b]could[/b] maybe bond a bit again”, and not that they SHOULD bond! it doesn´t have to be that way, just that it was a possibility!
Of course she doesn´t have to be friends with him after the happenings. (althrough it was technically not HIM who dumped her, but a mutural agreement to quit the relationship and she was the one who said it first to him that she wanted to quit it!) Also, yes, you might be right that she is not ” obligated to make up a random event for Paulo’s pleasure that spends the school’s money” (which is by the way not right that it´s only for his pleasure, but explaining it to you would be a waste of time anyway), but if she is really as grown up as you claim her to be, then she will put her personal issues she has with paulo aside and will help him. Not for him, but for the idea of having a nice event for everybody in the school to enjoy! And i´m sure she would not get in trouble for it.

You must be a really sad and lonely individual when you really think everyone should go alone through his/her problem and you also seem to do not understand the worth of support of good friends and the ones that you love.

Tails March 2, 2014, 4:30 AM EST.

Comment ID #276278

Honestly it just seems like paulo is trying to make them friends again, everyone is assuming them back together but paulo said make it about friendship. I don’t think he expects abbey to just jump right back in with daisy, and I don’t think daisy is stupid enough to let it happen again. Do you guys just think its impossible for her to learn from her mistakes? Everybody is acting like shes the worst person in the world. What she did was wrong okay fine whatever, but at least shes trying to patch things up! Paulo is helping that happen, and daisy is helping him. This isn’t about her being selfish. Her dating abbey to not be lonely was, but she did support him and encouraged him to get help. I think she wants his friendship again. Maybe in the future things could happen, but for right now, I’m sure abbey doesn’t want her back like that. He might even just reject the friendship but you never know!! I don’t think anyone is in the wrong here, up to this point. Paulo said “to be closer again,” and weren’t they close as friends before?

Jinx March 2, 2014, 9:48 AM EST.

Comment ID #276279

@ Mystico that would be a great idea. But Daisy would probably be to embarrassed and scared to use it. Explicitly if someone got it for her. She was terrified of those condoms so a ***** would probably scare Daisy even more. She would probably leave it on Rachels door step :P

Blue fox March 2, 2014, 10:12 AM EST.

Comment ID #276280

@Blue fox
Yeah most likely :D

Tails March 2, 2014, 10:41 AM EST.

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@Tails

Hahahaha aww that’s cute. Well despite your false claim, I don’t think all of the cast should go alone because I’m a sad an lonely individual. That’s funny, but not matter how you say that, doesn’t make it true. You are ignoring the small personal info I do share. :P

You are deluded enough that you think that everyone has an obligation to help people.

And while that’s a nice thought, you are confusing maturity with self-sacrifice. If Jazzy doesn’t like her ex she isn’t going to help him. That doesn’t make her any less mature if she decides not to help this poor cause for a group that has done nothing but put drama in her life. (Especially when Paulo loves Lucy but is doing this for Rachel and the same goes for Daisy>Mike>Abbey).

And for Abbey, like I said, Daisy is NOT the main reason he is doing better. It is 95% that he went and got help. He DOES NOT OWE her to stick around until she addresses her own petty Mike issues. If he did, he’d be a saint to completely not care about his own feelings.

At some point Daisy is going to have to get over Mike. Her friends can’t fix or help her grow up. And Paulo is going to have to deal with his lady turmoil. And frankly, Rachel can’t fix that and neither can Lucy.

And for the record, if you always rely on someone to save you in a tough moment, you are going to find that you are going to be really weak when everyone is busy and you are on your own.

It’s better for the cast to start small and be able to address their own relatively small/petty issues without the constant coddling that their friends or even parents do. This is how you get those man-child people that can’t function once their base support is gone or once they have to be accountable for themselves.

Lickit&stickit March 2, 2014, 11:23 AM EST.

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@Jinx
“Do you guys just think its impossible for her to learn from her mistakes? “
Considering her track history of mistakes, then yes, she’s incapable of learning from them as she even denies most of them or brushes them under the carpet.
Mike made it pretty damn clear that he has zero romantic interest in her and she has done nothing to get over him, so in fact she’s more like a broken record player in that regard.
Stuck in the same hopeless and foolish groove, refusing to get out of it because that’s the easy thing todo.

Showed March 2, 2014, 11:30 AM EST.

Comment ID #276283

I feel like a lot of people forget these characters are what, 15? It’s prefectly acceptable for them to have trouble dealing with emotional turmoil and for them to rely on friends or family for support in times of stress. They’re kids. Daisy having a crush on Mike doesn’t make her a bad person for dating Abbey, it’s perfectly possible to have feelings for more than one person at once and getting over someone you’ve liked for a long time can be very hard, especially at that age, and even in later years making a concious effort to get over someone rarely works well.

Mew March 2, 2014, 1:24 PM EST.

Comment ID #276284

@Lickit&stickit
I already know way more of you than you think ;)

“And while that’s a nice thought, you are confusing maturity with self-sacrifice. If Jazzy doesn’t like her ex she isn’t going to help him. That doesn’t make her any less mature if she decides not to help this poor cause for a group that has done nothing but put drama in her life. (Especially when Paulo loves Lucy but is doing this for Rachel and the same goes for Daisy>Mike>Abbey).”
it´s fun, that you STILL think he does it for rachel, when he really is doing it for a good friend of him (daisy). And that you think it would be self-sacrifice of Jazz makes me laugh hard, because you clearly don´t know the difference yourself.

“You are deluded enough that you think that everyone has an obligation to help people.”
This sentence just makes me wanna throw you into a big blender.

“And for Abbey, like I said, Daisy is NOT the main reason he is doing better. It is 95% that he went and got help. He DOES NOT OWE her to stick around until she addresses her own petty Mike issues. If he did, he’d be a saint to completely not care about his own feelings.”

http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c40/p22.html
http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c41/p6.html
These pages say something different, but ok, it´s your headcanon.
She did not only suggest it to him, she also DID stick around and did go with him to the councelor (instead of going on the trip with the others when Tess invited them).
http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c47/p3.html <

Tails March 2, 2014, 1:55 PM EST.

Comment ID #276285

@Lickit
“At some point Daisy is going to have to get over Mike. Her friends can’t fix or help her grow up. And Paulo is going to have to deal with his lady turmoil. And frankly, Rachel can’t fix that and neither can Lucy.”
Of course they can help her, but it´s something you will never understand.
And in the case of Paulo, for rachel not being able to help him she surely helps him a lot lately.

“And for the record, if you always rely on someone to save you in a tough moment, you are going to find that you are going to be really weak when everyone is busy and you are on your own.”
And for your record, if you always put your own feelings above the feelings of others and refuse to help them and also decline their help, then you WILL ALWAYS be alone and have to deal with everything alone and that will break you and turn you into a very bitter and lonly person.

Tails March 2, 2014, 2:16 PM EST.

Comment ID #276286

I have a feeling that this won’t work,since even if Abbey gets the roses he’ll probably find out that Daisy herself didn’t have the guts to try and get the roses for him and whatnot,and that she had to depend on Paulo.

Dundun March 2, 2014, 2:59 PM EST.

Comment ID #276287

@ Mew you get five stars for being a sensible person. I don’t see why people have to think there bad cats just because they make bad decisions. There still learning.

Blue fox March 2, 2014, 4:26 PM EST.

Comment ID #276288

Tails, you don’t know hardly anything me or reality. :P

1) I doubt Paulo is doing this only for Daisy’s benefit, but that wasn’t my point though. This cause of his is useless, given the relationship problems of those involved and how they are not over someone, but pursuing another.

2) People aren’t obligated towards doing ANYTHING. (Especially helping people they don’t like). Maturity is not self-sacrifice. It’s the truth sweetheart.

3) Daisy is not why he recovered, therapy is. She was in the lobby, not in the room. She is the whistle blower that made him self-reflect, she did not fix him further than a friendly suggestion. She’s a catalyst, not a cure. You wouldn’t call the friend who mentioned to go to the doctor for the flu as the one that actually healed you. The medical advice did.

4) And no people cannot cure emotional trauma for other people. It’s the choice of the afflicted to get help, get better, move on, or continue treatment. If you actually had any experience with depression or childhood trauma you’d know more about it. Part of what helps people is identifying their fears and acknowledging they have a problem. Friends support. They can’t fix for you. Often this is the biggest frustrations of those that are friends with emotionally traumatized people.

5) And no. You shouldn’t always put everyone’s interests in front of yours because that leads to people walking all over you like a carpet and they will still not be obligated to return any of that help. Seen it happen with a lot of people. Fun part is you can STILL end up alone that way with your “give everything all the time” method. But eventually you’ll see that in in practice because not everyone has decency.

There is a balance. You should only help people who are dependable and will continue a healthy relationship of mutual benefit. Not a parasitic one where you self-sacrifice with none of it ever reaching back to you.

Lickit&stickit March 2, 2014, 4:36 PM EST.

Comment ID #276290

Why does it seem that Lickit, Tails, and Blue Fox get in some sort of argument in the comments every time a new page is released?

peters March 2, 2014, 10:09 PM EST.

Comment ID #276291

@Peters

Seems to me Lickit is a realist, while Blue is Switzerland, and Tails is a idealist.

Hilarity ensues when they talk about anything. They must enjoy the banter, otherwise they wouldn’t do it. That or they think the other is so wrong, they must be proved wrong!

Dizzy March 2, 2014, 10:59 PM EST.

Comment ID #276292

Jasmine looks so cute!!!

Vylot March 2, 2014, 11:46 PM EST.

Comment ID #276293

I can’t believe im starting in a comment war but…by ho lickit, everrything you have said is so wrong. Let me make one thing clear. Taishi, this is not your fault, i will talk at length tomorrow about why this page is very well written, and looks beautiful, so dont take any of this toward your story, this is purely at the comments.

1) You have ZERO evidence to prove paulo is doing this for anything but his care for daisy, thats your personal distrust speaking, nothing more. He is clearly stepping out of his comfort zone as shown in the panel he said he would help, stop projecting your personal suspicion on nothing.
2) Allow me to quote aristotle here as I just did a project. the human is a social creature, and wishes to share contentment with others by filling their essence. People are social and do care for one-another. Because of that, people have grown into societies that expect compassion, so when someone if in need of aid, you DO have an obligation to help.
3) Did you really say no one have an obligation to do anything? I can’t even respond to that, its so straight up false there is no way to argue it, and I don’t even know how you can hope to think that.
4) Yes, jaazy is not obligated to actual go through with this, as she might not even be able to do it. However, she IS obligated to do something. The message of someone needing aid has been sent. Who send it, now means nothing. Paulo is not related to what’s going on with daisy, so jasmine’s interpersonal relationship with Paulo means cannot stop her. She would be immature and cowardly to walk away from someone in pain purely because of the third party messenger.
5) Who do you think you are? Do you think therapists are the only people capable of helping someone? Abbey doesnt -need- a therapist, it’s simply the best option. Could he get past his…past, with the help of friends by his side talking this out? Yes, is it likely, well not, if it was therapists would be out of a job. But friends there for you is just as important as the therapists. In fact, thats doubly so in abbey’s case, as tails showed, without daisy none of this would have ever happened. She is the reason he even saw he had a problem in the first place, and as such she has cemented herself a key part of his recovery, and even if that wasn’t true, the person outside that can be your return to normalcy is a very important thing.
6) Oh, but you think I’m done? not even close. Lets take this a critical step further. You say jazzy is under no obligation to be friends with paulo, WRONG. If paulo had done something to hurt jazzy, then yes, but they left under mutual understanding and both showed care and understanding for one-another, that means the interpersonal relationship between them, while changed, remains intact, and as such breaking that relationship for no disernable reason is not defensible. To top it off her introduction is even LESS mature.
7) now that were on that, her initial reaction to paulo is indefensible. When one sees a person they have an interpersonal relationship, even if it has been strained, their first response should not be “icky, run.” But even if you disagree, you cannot defense “I dont want drama.” Running away from someone who has simply said ‘hi’ to you because you aren’t mature enough to handle emotional turmoil and disagreement is not a defensible logic, its cowardly and selfish.
8) The -one- thing you got right is that abbey does NOT have an obligation to date daisy, you are completely right. Even if she said “I love you” Abbey is within his rights to say he doesn’t know yet and wants her to prove it -HOWEVER-, he is not within his rights to simply ignore her, because she is a key cause and key part of his recovery(see above), he does have an obligation to continue a personal relationship and listen to her, he cannot simply not listen.

It’s miraculous how absolutely every single thing you have said in the last 3 pages has been absolutely shockingly WRONG. With that little outburst over, I’m going to back to homework and I’ll comment on the page tomorrow.

Mahara March 3, 2014, 1:01 AM EST.

Comment ID #276294

9) Hey I forgot one! sorry for the double post. Sacrifice, which comes from the word “sacred,” is not simply putting your personal benefit aside for the sake of helping another. It is giving up something of value and importance that can and will effect your life in a noticeable way. Your time is not a sacrifice. If she did put her job on the line to make Paulo’s idea happen, that would be, but simply helping him is just the moral and mature thing to do as a human being.

Mahara March 3, 2014, 1:36 AM EST.

Comment ID #276295

@Lickit&stickit
You are really a lost cause, because you think you know everything better.
I don´t know anything about you? You should not be sure about that.

1.) it´s not and worth a try.
2.) I´m still laughing, how can you seriously thinking it would be self-sacrifice?
3.)You really have no idea of how strong the impact of the support of friends, loved ones and family can be on helping in the healing process in cases like Abbeys. Also, your comparision is really stupid and doesn´t fit at all.
4.)I did not say that they can cure it, but they can be a HUGE help in the healing process for emotional trauma (not for everyone, i have to add). And that you think i don´t know what i´m talking about amuses me, because i had already my own expieriences with it and also have several friends who have to deal with it, so i in fact DO know what i´m talking about.
5.)You are really negative and seem to only want to help people when there would be a benefit for you too, which makes you rather selfish. But gladly not everyone thinks like that, or the world would be an even shittier place (like where you live). Also, i never said that you always should give everything away all the time. That really would be stupid.

Relationships are a whole different topic with other rules that apply to them.

Tails March 3, 2014, 2:55 AM EST.

Comment ID #276296

@Mahara
Wow, that was just wonderful, thank you very much for it! You are awesome! :)

Tails March 3, 2014, 3:00 AM EST.

Comment ID #276297

Lol Tails and Mahara claiming Lickit to be wrong when they’re the ones who’s so out-of-touch with reality they’re orbiting around Jupiter.

Ohohoho.

Mr. E March 3, 2014, 6:08 AM EST.

Comment ID #276298

Being realistic seems to be a lost concept on those two, but then again they share that trait with Daisy.

Mr. E March 3, 2014, 6:09 AM EST.

Comment ID #276299

@Mahara 8. ) Why does Abbey have an obligation to care for Daisy? He can (and I think he already did) express his gratitude without mixing it with the relationship issues. Relationships (either romantic or amicable) are - or at least should be - based on mutual love and respect, where favors are inherently valuable “by-products”, not the warranty cards of the relationship. When you help some people, you may expect them to help you back sometime or at least to say “thank you”, but you cannot think they owe you with their love/friendship.

Adri March 3, 2014, 6:21 AM EST.

Comment ID #276300

@ Dizzy (They must enjoy the banter, otherwise they wouldn’t do it. That or they think the other is so wrong, they must be proved wrong!)
Sometimes it’s both :smirk:. And apparently you enjoy it to.

Blue fox March 3, 2014, 9:30 AM EST.

Comment ID #276302

@adri Don’t get me wrong, Abbey is still within his rights to say “I still don’t think you’re over mike,” but because she done so much for him he does still have to respect her and least give it the thought based on what happens. Leaving eachother one some disagreement is not a reason to stop being friends or stop listening.
It’s more he does have to just listen and think, even if he doesn’t change his mind one bit. to be fair, I’m actually with Abbey on this one as I’ve done more or less exactly what he has this part. Paulo’s actions may bring no result, but good on him for trying.

Mahara March 3, 2014, 9:35 AM EST.

Comment ID #276303

aaaawwww Jazz com on at least its not for him. ;)

robyn March 3, 2014, 10:21 AM EST.

Comment ID #276304

@Blue fox
This is true :P

Tails March 3, 2014, 10:31 AM EST.

Comment ID #276305

Wow. @Mahara and @Tails:
You are really pinning @Lickit down. It will be amazing if he manages to counter this. I do love these arguments but I hope it doesn’t turn into insulting one another :(.

I find that all of you 3 are able to come up with good answers. There is always something to agree with and disagree with.

I didn’t get it with the Switzerland thing :question:. Does it mean that @Bluefox is kinda neutral or what?


I’m looking forward for the next page upload. We’ll either see what Jazz says or the scene might switch over to someone else. :D

Jonas97face March 3, 2014, 10:49 AM EST.

Comment ID #276307

@Jonas97face
Thank you :D
And yes, @Bluefox is the neutral one :P

Tails March 3, 2014, 11:17 AM EST.

Comment ID #276308

@ Jonas97face that’s what I got from it. I am pretty neutral. Expect for certain things like the one true pairing Lucyxmike. And I’m pretty understanding too. I don’t really see a point in arguing over opinions and different people’s beliefs. But it is fun. And now let there be peace!
https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=S8PFd1sXWRs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Blue fox March 3, 2014, 11:23 AM EST.

Comment ID #282680

Was just trying out something.

The Masterpiece June 17, 2014, 7:44 PM EST.

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