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It works… At least Abbey is now scared.
HongKat March 19, 2014, 1:00 PM EST.
Oh wow! Keeping things interesting, huh, Paulo?
Keyblade Dragon March 19, 2014, 1:00 PM EST.
Wow, Paulo. Low blow man.
TheLazyCharmander March 19, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.
>:I DO IT ABBY
Sirknight March 19, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.
Shani96 March 19, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.
What the actual **** Paulo. You little piece of ****
Jonas97face March 19, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.
**** Paulo brining up dead mom! Seriously >>;
Lilmont March 19, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.
I can’t take Paulo seriously in that last panel. hahaha
Lily March 19, 2014, 1:02 PM EST.
At least his heart’s in the right place
kaminari683 March 19, 2014, 1:02 PM EST.
What you ever know, Paulo? -.-
X March 19, 2014, 1:02 PM EST.
As much as I think paulo made a low blow with the dead mom thing, I think he was using extreme examplism (
Benjamin March 19, 2014, 1:03 PM EST.
Paulo going a little overboard if I do say.
Keyblade Dragon March 19, 2014, 1:04 PM EST.
I think Mike needs to invert the gag and punch Paulo.
Silas March 19, 2014, 1:05 PM EST.
So what Paulo is saying is that Daisy’s a good friend, not a good girlfriend? Way to help your “point” Paulo!
Inre March 19, 2014, 1:06 PM EST.
All the subtlety and tact of two hands firmly grasped around your neck.
Anon-o-mis March 19, 2014, 1:06 PM EST.
Hey Paulo, At least Abbey’s mother LOVED him.
Yours left without a trace.
Bastion March 19, 2014, 1:08 PM EST.
SirSynx March 19, 2014, 1:08 PM EST.
Before, Paulo was just being a jerkface. This is so friggn cute.
Hawz March 19, 2014, 1:09 PM EST.
You know, as much as I liked Lucy, I’m glad that she’s gone now since this gives a chance to see what the other characters are like. Paulo! You’re crazy insensitive, but you got a good heart. I can see how Abbey would hate you though.
Still love you, Paulo.
TakaiSama March 19, 2014, 1:10 PM EST.
Sigh… it would have been awesome if Daisy was the one saying all of this (in a more soft and sweet manner, of course), also if she really was the one to send the flower…
Yeah, it would have been awesome, beautiful and cute if Daisy was brave enough to do and say all what Paulo did and said in her place.
About Abbey’s mother, I guess that Mike, Sue and even David would have listened to Abbey if he decided to vent it out with them. Paulo of course doesn’t care, in fact, I think he wouldn’t know what to say since his mother left his dad and him behind. Abbey knew his mother, and he knew that she cared about Molly and him. Two worlds totally different between those 2 young cats…
Well, 7 pages left to know how this will turn out.
Teh Lvy! March 19, 2014, 1:10 PM EST.
okay.. that’s it.. someone tell abbey to just punch Paulo right in the kisser..
this is becoming redonkeylous by now.
SeaRivers March 19, 2014, 1:11 PM EST.
Paulo is so funny. He and David are my favorites.
taNi March 19, 2014, 1:11 PM EST.
Whoa, Paulo, Line Crossed. Not Cool.
titansCrypt March 19, 2014, 1:13 PM EST.
As big a dick as Paulo is, he has a point in my eyes. Plus that last panel is brilliantly convincing
MobileCrusader March 19, 2014, 1:14 PM EST.
“she even got you a flower”
No Paulo, you’rde the one who came with this idea and She didn’t even had the gut to ****ing write her name, asked you to do it in her place…
A guy March 19, 2014, 1:15 PM EST.
Ámala…O si no!
Lexeaz March 19, 2014, 1:17 PM EST.
Paulo makes some good points…except for the dead mom thing. Really Paulo…don’t go there.
MaronaPossessed March 19, 2014, 1:18 PM EST.
“Your dead mom”. Damn, that was harsh, even for me
SplatterCandy March 19, 2014, 1:18 PM EST.
I don’t think the point is that it can’t ever happen with Mike and Daisy. I think Abbey is focusing on the fact that if it could, it would. I think Daisy just used Abbey as a crutch and now she’s stumbling without him. Abbey was right to leave her. She needs to stand on her own.
Kauphy March 19, 2014, 1:18 PM EST.
Good Lord Paulo you’re going too far now. Seriously I know he’s trying to help Daisy but that is a low blow right there. He keeps trying to quilt trip Abbey into going back with Daisy by saying that no one else would love him or be willing to deal with his past abuse he had with his family.
Bringing up his mother was just uncalled for. It’s hard finding out that his mother is now dead on top of all the other issues he has to deal with concerning the abuse his father put everyone though and his cheating. It isn’t right and all of this is just messed up.
Abbey should go back with Daisy if he wants to go back to her. Not because he feels like he has to or that no one other than Daisy could ever care about him. That is not how a relationship is suppose to work. That will only cause the relationship to fail and could even cause resentment. Abbey made his feelings perfectly clear and he broke up with Daisy in a calm and mature way. He doesn’t want to be second best compared to Mike and it’s obvious he has stronger feelings for Daisy than Daisy does for him. Daisy hasn’t gotten over Mike in the year they were together and now Abbey wants to move on. Yeah it hurts but it hurts even worse if he continues to date Daisy and his feelings continue to get stronger but her’s doesn’t.
Speaking of Daisy she hasn’t done anything to stop Paulo at all since this fight happened. She isn’t trying to pull him back, telling him to stop so she and Abbey could talk or telling him off for what he has said so far. And if she doesn’t call Paulo out for what he said about Abbey’s mother in the next page then that would be infuriating. If she truly does care about Abbey and his feelings then she needs to do a better job of making that clear. She needs to stop Paulo, apologize for all of this and try to talk to Abbey calmly. Because if not then I hope that Abbey tells Paulo off for all of this.
They need to leave him alone. Daisy needs to accept the fact that she and Abbey are over and that she needs to think really hard on her feelings before dating anyone else. All of this has turned into a big mess right now and I doubt it’ll get any better on the next page.
K March 19, 2014, 1:20 PM EST.
this really makes me like paulo
not like he was already my favorite character
Dragobir March 19, 2014, 1:22 PM EST.
And seriously , the mom ?? Seriously ?
What the **** ?
In front of all the classmates ??
A guy March 19, 2014, 1:24 PM EST.
What point? so far Paulo’s classifying what a good friend would do as the same as being in a relationship.
Which further cements the fact that daisy might be a good friend, but she’s also the worst girlfriend imaginable.
Vintelo March 19, 2014, 1:27 PM EST.
“She even got you a flower, girls don’t do that.”
Hello..? Paulo clearly hasn’t looked at Mikes desk.
13linding March 19, 2014, 1:30 PM EST.
Paulo. Paulo. … Paulo. Foot off the gas now, Paulo. Paulo are you listening.
StraightFace March 19, 2014, 1:31 PM EST.
that last frame though.
Maith1 March 19, 2014, 1:31 PM EST.
I will be so upset if they get back together.
Mikki March 19, 2014, 1:36 PM EST.
I don’t think Paulo is right to be like this, but damn if he isn’t being genuine. He really dislikes Abbey. He really likes Daisy. Daisy is upset that they’re apart, and so he’s trying to get them back together despite disliking Abbey. These are Paulo’s thoughts, and he’s yelling them at Abbey not only just to help, but also to let Abbey know what a piece of **** he thinks Abbey is while letting him know what a saint he thinks Daisy is. Because that’s much more relevant to Paulo than this relationship ********.
Hazel March 19, 2014, 1:42 PM EST.
Dat Paulo face at the end tho.
Nicole March 19, 2014, 1:45 PM EST.
…I’m not even being specific just like everything he said was a low blow.
And I agree with @Mikki I really hope they don’t get back together.. I don’t think Paulo should be congratulated for the way he’s going about this..
Gabba March 19, 2014, 1:52 PM EST.
Paulo has a point there. (Althrough he really needs to learn how to choose his wording better)
Tails March 19, 2014, 1:52 PM EST.
Ouch, Paulo. Maybe it isn’t smart to yell about “his dead Mom” at the end there, you are in a classroom after all. He certainly does have a point, though I’d imagine Abbey and Daisy’s relationship would be a bit awkward from this point on.
Lokiallen March 19, 2014, 1:53 PM EST.
Paulo keepin it classy and sensitive as always
Biblioholic March 19, 2014, 1:54 PM EST.
bahahahaaa i ****in love paulo. it was a bit of a low blow, admittedly, but his heart is in the right place. he’s doing what he thinks is the best for his friend and trying to help them out here. but oh my gosh this is also SO FUNNY.
shadowed_butterfly March 19, 2014, 1:54 PM EST.
@Teh_Lvy! : No. Just Paulo.
A good way to form a relationship/friendship/… is to set an another enemy.
HongKat March 19, 2014, 1:55 PM EST.
****, that’s scary. Someone go for that on Halloween.
TheScarletTailedFox March 19, 2014, 2:00 PM EST.
His use of his dead mother as an example may seem harsh, but sometimes using harsh examples is the only way to get someone understand that the person is putting up with something that would greatly annoy you at this point.
And it would greatly annoy Paulo at this point because he has no mother figure in his life at all and he never has had one while Abbey had his birth mother and his current mother was there when his birth mother was not.
Moogle March 19, 2014, 2:01 PM EST.
Jeez, Paulo.. Reel it in, bud
Jade March 19, 2014, 2:01 PM EST.
@Taehi, you are magnificent in dragging these things out. At the same time, GOSH DANG IT HOW WILL IT ENDDDD
LoopdeLoops March 19, 2014, 2:02 PM EST.
“”What point? so far Paulo’s classifying what a good friend would do as the same as being in a relationship.
Which further cements the fact that daisy might be a good friend, but she’s also the worst girlfriend imaginable.”“
Vintelo March 19, 2014, 2:02 PM EST.
I agree Daisy feels something, I agree she has supported Abbey, and I was with Paulo up until the third to last panel.
Paulo, Abbey’s mom is freaking dead, and he saw his dad kill her. How dare you bring that into an argument, you selfish, nasty piece of work.
I actually hate Paulo now. His character has gone too far into being a jerk to care. Fair enough he’s nice to girls he finds hot, but jesus, bringing up the fact somebody has issues because their mom died to win an argument.
what an *******.
rom March 19, 2014, 2:07 PM EST.
@13linding: I think he meant it as ‘girls don’t give flowers unless they care you or having feelings for you’. And no one ever said those flowers to Mike were all from girls.
@rom: Abbey’s dad did NOT kill his mother. In the chapter where he tries to find out where she was, we learn that she was sent to the hospital and she had to have a surgery. She didn’t want her children to know where she was in case she died from it. It can be assumed that she did die from that surgery because she was quite obviously dead at the end of the chapter when we saw her gravestone.
Moogle March 19, 2014, 2:08 PM EST.
I’m a little dumbfounded at the fact that Paulo’s “Helping” actually seems to be Helping. He actually seems to be making Abbey think about how things actually are, instead of how Abbey saw them. *slow clap*
Alchemi March 19, 2014, 2:09 PM EST.
Good Job Paulo, you both ruined any chances of Daisy actually putting on her big girl panties and sorting out her mess like she should by herself, AND the leftovers of Abbeys self esteem.
Now the relationship is DEFINITELY ruined.
This chapter will be a disappointment unless someone both decks Paulo AND Daisy one for being complete idiots.
hfz March 19, 2014, 2:09 PM EST.
this chapter has essentially been Paulo telling Abbey that nobody would ever love him so he should settle for being second best, that being upset about his mother being dead and feeling responsible makes him a “crybaby”, and essentially forcing him into something that is hurting him.
Abbey and Daisy are my favourite couple, but not like this man, not like this, and not with Paulo being an honest-to-god bully.
Kay March 19, 2014, 2:11 PM EST.
I seriously hope Daisy has a go at Paulo on the next page - she needs to call him out for this because he is being cruel to Abbey. If she cares about Abbey she will stop Paulo now.
Kay March 19, 2014, 2:13 PM EST.
@Moogle While he didn’t outright KILL her, he caused the injuries that put her in the hospital in the first place.
@Kay is right. Paulo is straight up bullying Abbey at this point.
TheLazyCharmander March 19, 2014, 2:14 PM EST.
Abbey already clearly saw what was going on, but Paulo didn’t make Daisy see things the way they REALLY are.
Paulo is ruining any attempt for Daisy to grow as a person, and instead maintains her “innocent baby princess who can never do wrong” status quo
Pirvus March 19, 2014, 2:15 PM EST.
Dat last panel.
Anon-Anon March 19, 2014, 2:18 PM EST.
Paulo has no tact, but since he’s a teenage boy and all that isn’t surprising. Par for the course really. And he is making good points. All these kids have so much drama. Just be happy for once. They were a good couple, let em keep being a good couple. Having unresolved feelings for people is actually pretty common, and ya just get over it. Teenagers man, they be cray.
Grumble Grumble March 19, 2014, 2:36 PM EST.
oh god.. this hurt… TwT .. why Paulo.. why did you have to hurt Jazmine’s heart.
SeaRivers March 19, 2014, 2:36 PM EST.
Was too lazy to put Paulo’s speech bubble on the bottom so they truly matched up.
Exelto March 19, 2014, 2:38 PM EST.
That last panel…
It’s comical beauty is beyond words.
Dr. Z March 19, 2014, 2:42 PM EST.
Um. Wow. Sorry I ever doubted you, Paulo. Last panel is a freaking masterpiece.
So, who wants to bet Rachel hears about this, and it somehow brings her back to Paulo a little? Or she ends up making out with Jordan in the background.
modulusshift March 19, 2014, 2:43 PM EST.
@Tails and I quote,
“Paulo has a point there. (Althrough he really needs to learn how to choose his wording better)”
UMM. HELLO? Tails? The supposedly sympathetic one out of us? ARE YOU IN THERE? Are you all for being respectful towards people’s feelings and lifestyles? Why doesn’t Abbey count into that category? Hum?
I am seriously questioning that someone has been trolling the comment under your name because from where I am standing, Paulo has been screaming these facts in the middle of a busy classroom:
1) No one but Daisy will ever be able to stomach loving Abbey.
2) Take her back because you used to be happy with her when she didn’t reveal that she still loves Michael more than you.
3) She’d leave you in a second for Michael, and does not ever even refute this, but he is technically taken. Don’t worry bout it.
4) WHO THE **** CARES about YOUR feelings in the relationship Abbey!
5) Daisy has been sad and lonely. Or just be having major indigestion and constipation from all the icecream she’s shoveling. MAKE HER BETTER.
6) She got you a flower (Even though she actually wimped out twice, and I did it for her, like she let me do everything for you)
7) You have an unlovable past, YOUR MOM DIED (in case anyone in the class didn’t know)
8) Daisy puts up with all this, because she is a decent friend and not a completely inconsiderate ******* like I, Paulo. (Although I’m still yelling and Daisy hasn’t told me off like a good girlfriend would because no selfless lover would continue watching her love be torn up in the middle of class.)
Paulo Summary: DAISY IS PERFECT
Seriously Tails? What the hell? I expect better from you. This may just be your favorite ship in the series, maybe that’s why you still think all of this is healthy for Abbey, but honestly?
Abbey needs out of this. Because Daisy is too much of a coward to even stand up for him. Because she got Paulo to fight this battle for her, IN PUBLIC, in the loudest most revealing way to all of Abbey’s insecurities.
Daisy is ****ing toxic to Abbey’s sanity and well-being at this point. I wish he’s get angry to stand up for himself, but judging by his face, I wouldn’t be surprised if he runs off crying to his counselor. Because I know I would if someone antagonized me that long. For Daisy to just let this happen, because she STILL cares more about getting him back than his actual feelings on the matter, she is borderline psychopathic like Paulo.
All I can say, is Daisy is the worst kind of cowardly bitch.
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 2:46 PM EST.
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH, I don’t know if it is POSSIBLE to sigh HARD enough. Paulo is the worst possible kind of person right now, I can’t believe he actually seemed likeable at one point. Just no to all of this, he just stamped all over his insecurities/problems KNOWINGLY and just I don’t even . There’s NOTHING good or right about what he’s done at all, he didn’t even let them talk it out. He says he loves Lucy but its clear he loves Daisy and is so blinded he’s actually acting like a brain dead moron. He’s crippling her, bulling Mike/Abbey/whoever he sees fit, being a super hypocrite. Good grief! I hope Daisy says something, I SERIOUSLY HOPE SHE DOES SOMETHING!
my bad for not responding had a lot of work. Anyway I think you’d actually like Emma/Pride and Prejudice/sense and sensibility there’s a lot of character development/drama. The movies are pretty good (well I didn’t like the one with Kira Knightly but that could just be me).
Samm-y March 19, 2014, 2:49 PM EST.
That may have been a hit below the belt there Paulo…
Jack-Mo March 19, 2014, 2:52 PM EST.
LoL dat last panel xD its like: obey or die!
eagle March 19, 2014, 2:54 PM EST.
Paulo is an absolutely tactless idiot. Not only is he not giving Abbey a chance to talk, not only is he completely biased about this whole damn thing, he has the nerve to say that no one will ever love Abbey because of the emotional turmoils he has to deal with, and for that reason, he should settle for being Daisy’s back up guy. Gods forbid he actually ends up with someone who actually loves him.
“She even gave you a flower. Girls don’t do that.” Yeah Paulo, girls don’t do that, and even if they do, Daisy certainly didn’t. It was your idea to do this friendship rose thing, and what do you know, she couldn’t even bring herself to send a rose to the guy she wants to be with so much. Prior to all this, Daisy and Abbey (or Dabbey if you prefer) were my favorite pairing, but now I’m quite happy its done. After the life he had to live, why should Abbey have to settle for anything other than the best? Because Daisy thought it was nice? Because “You’ll never find someone who wants to deal with that?” Yeah Abbey, live your life being a co-dependent person whose only satisfaction can come from satisfying someone else, whose only reason for looking for a relationship should be, “Well she’ll be there for me when I’m having a hard time.” And by all means hope, with all your heart, that for some reason she won’t ditch you for Mike or any other guy who gives her a bit of attention.
Paulo of all people shouldn’t even have a thought in all of this, but he’s so damn impulsive that he hasn’t given things a second thought. “Let me try to make Daisy happy,” he says while not being real about his feelings for Rachael; while breaking up with Jasmine because he “loves” Lucy, and hurting her soon after when he sleeps with Rachael. I mean gods, was he not too long ago, getting upset with Tess because she didn’t want a legitimate relationship? And if by chance, Paulo did think about Abbey in any of this, then that means that his whole reasoning is that Abbey can’t have anything nice, because he’s still “damaged” from his childhood.
I hope with that Abbey doesn’t submit to any of this senseless bullying. Paulo isn’t remotely right, and I have no idea how anyone can agree with him.
On a side note, kudos @Taeshi. You have made a truly engaging tale.
Damonashu March 19, 2014, 2:56 PM EST.
Suddenly the teacher is standing behind Paulo and he gets detention. That ought to brighten the mood.
Or maybe someone could tackle Paulo down before he crosses the line even further. Mike! Sue! Get him!
Jonas97face March 19, 2014, 2:57 PM EST.
Bit overboard Paulo, but I love ya’, keep doin’ what you’re doin’ :,)
Macca March 19, 2014, 3:02 PM EST.
Paulo is an unfathomable hypocrite. I loved your post.
I also now hate Paulo more than any character in the series after the way he has handled this. Thantos was right all along. Paulo doesn’t give a **** about anyone’s feelings but his own. And his own feelings were clouded by how much he thought Daisy, THE PERFECT ONE, needed to be MADE happy. Abbey will have to DO, despite how much I obviously hate him for his emotional baggage that is not his fault.
Daisy fell to top spot on the BCB bitch list after this whole affair. Anyone still supporting her actions have lost their minds, until she does something decent and not for her own gain.
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 3:04 PM EST.
I understand now why Abbey hates Paulo.
Copper March 19, 2014, 3:05 PM EST.
I really don’t get why people think DaisyxAbbey is such a bad ship. It’s one of my favorites. Daisy has been strong and supportive of Abbey throughout everything. Abbey has been mature and understanding with her. They’re literally the healthiest ship on this comic. Daisy doesn’t love Mike, she wouldn’t leave Abbey for Mike. Mike is an old crush, it’s an idealized dream she’s built up. She knows it would never work between them, but it works with her and Abbey and she’s happy. She doesn’t have to love him, yet, she’s still young. Yeah, he’s ahead of her in the strength of his feelings, he’s bold enough to call it love, but he’s forgetting that they’re still young and she still has growing to do, just like he does. Daisy is miserable without Abbey not because she needs someone to complete her, she’s miserable without Abbey because he made her feel safe and happy and cherished and they complimented one another.
This is just a snag. Maybe they’ll stay broken up, maybe they won’t.
dremma March 19, 2014, 3:08 PM EST.
Gate-senpai March 19, 2014, 3:10 PM EST.
And @Macca and @dremma I refer you to the giant post that is meant for @tails.
And I encourage any other idiot who thinks Paulo is doing a “good job” to read it, because obviously your love for a ship has hazed over your ability to looks at the facts at what was done to Abbey by both Daisy and Paulo. Please have the intelligence to realize that NONE of this was healthy behavior.
I’d like you all to remember exactly, the uncalled for way Mike broke down Lucy. Mike at least kept his feelings for Lucy between a conversation with the two of them.
I want you to look at this page, and realize that Paulo has attacked Abbey much in the same manner, hitting all major psychological insecurities.
But to top it off, he does it to humiliate Abbey in the middle of a full classroom, purely for Daisy, in hopes they get back together.
And Daisy is actually so selfish and cowardly, she lets it happen to someone she claims to love, hell even to be friends with.
Yet not a word, not a thought even passed through her empty head to stop all of this. She’s still waiting for this method to work so that Abbey gets back with her. She’s actually that selfish.
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 3:12 PM EST.
Zott March 19, 2014, 3:12 PM EST.
Well… this is getting interesting
Ohlookabird March 19, 2014, 3:13 PM EST.
To everyone whining about Paulo, I’d like to know how else he would have gotten through to him. It’s all harsh, but it’s all true.
Tcj333 March 19, 2014, 3:17 PM EST.
I agree with @Kauphy and @K this has gone on long enough what Paulo is doing. You can’t guilt trip someone back into a relationship. You can’t force someone into an unhappy relationship. Abbey should know what it feels like to be the apple of someone’s eye and not second best. It’s unhealthy for them to stay together because Abbey will always be wondering if he’s really getting what he deserves out of his relationship and no deserves that. Daisy can be a good friend to Abbey but saying that she’s the only one who will love him is harsh and low.
Really disappointed in you Paulo.
InsaneDragoness March 19, 2014, 3:21 PM EST.
“To everyone whining about Paulo, I’d like to know how else he would have gotten through to him. It’s all harsh, but it’s all true.”
What the **** is wrong with you? When is it ever appropriate to bring up MAJOR childhood trauma and say that “No one will ever be able to love you because of this”?
In the middle of a class over a ****ING highschool breakup? Daisy is not that important or special for Paulo to even TRY to say this!
Do you actually believe that victims of childhood trauma, are that damaged and unlovable like Paulo apparently does?
**** you bro. I am personally in a relationship with such a person. There is nothing wrong with them, or with a incident that happened that they were not in control of because they were a child.
What is wrong, is people like YOU acting like they are damaged and dirty articles of clothing, when in reality, YOUR attitude is what is disgraced trash. Please, start acting like an actual human being, or keep your non empathetic thoughts in your messed up head where they belong.
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 3:22 PM EST.
Go Paulo go!
Lys March 19, 2014, 3:29 PM EST.
People just need to deal with this page already. Paulo’s absolutely fed up with walking on eggshells. It’s tough love and the point needs to get through. Sometimes you just need to kick a little *** instead of babying someone’s feelings all the time.
ScotchNovel March 19, 2014, 3:31 PM EST.
@Dremma this this this. Thankyou.
rjpoofy March 19, 2014, 3:34 PM EST.
Because bringing up a past issue that has nothing to do with Paulo or Daisy’s feelings and bashing the **** out of the person that is affected by it, is totally appropriate.
As if Paulo ever was even walking on eggshells to talk with Abbey in private if he wanted to baby Daisy and fix this for her. He’s ****ing up an emotional tornado, and adding his own unjustified hatred of Abbey into it. In the middle of class. I can’t believe any sane person sides with this ****.
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 3:35 PM EST.
That is exactly what Paulo is doing for Daisy, babying her. He hasn’t once said, “Maybe you shouldn’t try to be with Abbey until you’re over Mike,” he’s done nothing but constantly attack Abbey. Abbey is going to a psychologist to come to term with his troubles, he doesn’t need Daisy to “listen to him talk about his dead mom all day.” This isn’t even about his mother being dead, and Paulo bringing her into this isn’t tough-love, it’s trying to guilt Abbey into settling for Daisy. Paulo doesn’t give the slightest damn about Abbey’s stance is in all this. Everything he has said is a personal attack and little more than that. His entire argument to this point can be summed up as, “You suck so settle you piece of ****.”
Damonashu March 19, 2014, 3:37 PM EST.
****, Paulo’s looking more of an *** in each page. It’s a wonder how he still even gets chicks.
Dudeler March 19, 2014, 3:42 PM EST.
ok that’s going a little bit to far paulo
robyn March 19, 2014, 3:42 PM EST.
…and it gets worse.
peters March 19, 2014, 3:47 PM EST.
To the people who are saying that Paulo has a good heart, I have one thing to say. Everybody in the world has a good heart, but that doesn’t mean people can bash others and guilt trip people into dating some girl who doesn’t even love them and uses them as a crutch for comfort. I hope Paulo straightens out soon but it doesn’t look like it will happen for awhile. Abbey doesn’t even look mad anymore he just looks broken. Paulo get your game togther
The Cat of the West March 19, 2014, 3:50 PM EST.
Chant with me people!
PUNCH HIM! PUNCH HIM! PUNCH HIM!
13lackout March 19, 2014, 3:51 PM EST.
I don’t understand people defending their ships with “she was there for him.” ANYONE can be there for someone, all it takes is a decent amount of SYMPATHY. (Going to echo @Lickit here, I believe it was. I think this whole sympathy vs. empathy thing was laid out a while back.) Daisy is drowning in sympathy. Literally, drowning. She is THE most sympathetic character. That doesn’t make her a good SO. She was there for Abbey, but she didn’t have to love him to pat him on the back and reassure him. She just had to be sympathetic. ANYONE can go up to someone in distress and pat that person on the back and be reassuring. It’s not some special trait that makes Daisy an angel. It just means she’s ruled by her emotions.
She is completely lacking in EMPATHY, which makes her absolutely horrible for Abbey. Abbey needs someone who will take his own feelings into account and try to understand them, which Daisy does not ever do. She has not taken his feelings into account ONCE during this whole chapter, nor has she tried to understand WHY he feels the way he does. She’s horrible for him. They did NOT have a healthy relationship. They are not and never were truly healthy.
Paulo is not dishing out “tough love” here, either. He’s dishing out his absolute hatred for Abbey, tearing into the person he sees as the one who hurt Daisy. He doesn’t give a flying **** about Abbey; never has, never will. I don’t know where people think he suddenly developed a conscience towards Abbey. He is doing this 100% for Daisy. He doesn’t care about Abbey, he WANTS to hurt Abbey, and he’s doing it in the most underhanded, brutal, humiliating way possible because he just
Meanwhile Daisy has zero empathy towards Abbey and is not stopping Paulo from being Mike to Abbey’s Lucy. Oh yeah, she sure cares about Abbey LOADS. She must really, really, really, REALLY like him a LOT. She’s letting someone she’s supposed to care about be brutally bullied in front of his peers. Yeah, no, that’s not healthy for Abbey.
Gazri March 19, 2014, 3:56 PM EST.
Okay, wow, that ‘dead mom’ comment was too much…Even for you Paulo
B-Dawg March 19, 2014, 3:57 PM EST.
Plus the fact that he is being a 100% hypocrite with this, his own mother walked out with someone else and left him with a bunch of emotional issues. His own fathers got a drinking problem and obviously wasn’t the best example for him either, and he’s had emotional problems dealing with it? He may as well be yelling at himself! He’s got way to much crap on his own plate to deal with before trying to dish any out to anyone else.
Daisy had a wake-up call and NEEDED to learn and grow from it and he’s just holding her back! I hope she snaps out of the shock and puts him in his place, I’m holding out a LITTLE hope that she has a shred of compassion for him and does the right thing.
Samm-y March 19, 2014, 3:59 PM EST.
Lol Paulo right now is gettin things done! This is pretty funny xD and the whole dead mom thing, its totally not taboo to bring up a dead mom if its gonna actually help someone. IF Abbey HAS been crying over it too much, paulo’s right, hes a crybaby and needs to try to get over it. Also Abbey should appreciate Daisy’s honesty and feelings, maybe love means more to her than it means to Abbey, and she isnt prepared to go that far (even if she must not think much of tryin to bump uglies with Abbey apparently). On the other hand, I don’t think Daisy actually thinks as much of Abbey, rather than having a relationship itself. Daisy has been one of those girls to just try and have fun, live her life. Abbey is a serious guy with some serious problems, although he’s a good guy, he needs someone more patient. Abbey’s making the right move getting out of the relationship, but the friendship rose holds significance too, he should try continuing to be friends with Daisy. Tell me your opinions or thoughts on my comment and what you think :0 i’d like to see more viewpoints on this
Sidenote: I’m going to Anime Boston!! See ya there!
Grey XIV March 19, 2014, 4:01 PM EST.
Look Abbey or even Mike DO SOMETHING !!
Don’t just stand there doing nothing , shut him up !
I’m sorry but this is not how you repair a relationship !
A guy March 19, 2014, 4:08 PM EST.
@lickit-and-stickit has a good point -
When Mike responded to years of childhood bullying by snapping at Lucy and attacking her fears and issues, People called him out on it.
Paulo is doing the same thing now to Abbey, calling him unlovable, bringing up his trauma, the only exception being that Abbey has done nothing wrong here.
Abbey and Paulo don’t get on, but unlike Lucy, Abbey never provokes Paulo and mainly just keeps away from him. This is a huge double standard and I hope Paulo gets some character development before he becomes too much of a jerk to salvage.
Kay March 19, 2014, 4:08 PM EST.
1. I know Paulo still technically means well here, but his little comment about Abbey’s dead mom is a ********* move no matter how you slice it. And this is coming from someone who DOESN’T dislike Paulo.
2. How the heck does he know about that anyway? I think It’s a bit much to assume he guessed that, so that means Daisy must have told him. But if that’s the case, was/is Abbey just okay with Daisy sharing that particular sore spot, even with friends.
3. Probably-Not-Going-To-Happen-But-If-It-Does-I- Called-It-Prediction: Abbey gets set of by the dead mom jab and either punches Paulo or goes into full-on beatdown mode.
Lt. America March 19, 2014, 4:19 PM EST.
@Lt. America if only Abbey would punch or better yet just start barking at Paulo. Seriously why has no adult stepped in at this point?! There was a teacher shown as being in the room.
?!? March 19, 2014, 4:24 PM EST.
Oh man, I can’t wait til Rachel strolls in and hears all of the horrid things Paulo is saying. He honestly needs to back up a few ****in’ steps. Insensitive, bullheaded and crude.
Sandvich March 19, 2014, 4:24 PM EST.
Wow, what a dick way of thinking.
Especially considering Abbey’s going to therapy to COPE with the fact his mother is dead.
He IS literally doing what he can to be a better person, unlike Paulo or Daisy who has resorted to guilt tripping and bullying, both of which are the epitome of immaturity.
GroundZ March 19, 2014, 4:24 PM EST.
I’m a little worried will get into a fight with .
Even though would deserve it (why would you bring up his dead mother?)
A part of me questions if told about ‘s past too.
After all seems to be letting on that he knows about the therapy.
On another note off topic, It’s interesting how says that girls don’t give guys flowers when has a pile of them from fangirls lol
Ash illusion March 19, 2014, 4:24 PM EST.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha i’m Dying it’s been awhile since i don’t laugh like this xD, that Paulo is Epik!!
Zero_Hnd March 19, 2014, 4:24 PM EST.
: Come on Abbey, who cares about how your mom’s dead?!
Great persuasion skills, Paulo
Tuxedo Knux March 19, 2014, 4:31 PM EST.
Oh yeah, lets break the mental state of the only person who’s been focusing on bettering themselves, yeah, let’s maintain Daisy’s immature world point-of-view by wrecking said persons progress.
That’ll show ‘em that you gotta be a self centered *******, **** being empathetic, that’s for ******* and losers.
Mixbox March 19, 2014, 4:32 PM EST.
Ya dun goofed, Paulo.
I hope Daisy gets the balls to say something.
7 March 19, 2014, 4:33 PM EST.
……I hope somebody drop kicks Paulo in the face for that insensitive comment. PAULO I AM DISAPPOINT.
Pinki March 19, 2014, 4:33 PM EST.
I don’t understand how anyone could think that Abbey is a crybaby when clearly the biggest crybaby in this comic is and has been Daisy all along…
And another thing… No way is it helpful to bring up and be so dismissive of his mother’s death. That’s complete and utter ********. **** Paulo for using this tactic.
I also don’t get how it’s okay for Daisy not to love Abbey but still use him to have sex with while she’s still harboring feelings for Mike… Why is this OKAY???
Yet some people still think Abbey is wrong for wanting to be on the same page with his girlfriend before **** gets even deeper between them.
*SMDH@ the harebrained logic that’s floating around here…
Taciturn March 19, 2014, 4:36 PM EST.
Oh wow, ILY Paulo… but STFU
JasperCat March 19, 2014, 4:38 PM EST.
Oh wow, this community is getting pretty hostile to anyone who dares to think outside the box lately and here I thought the Lucy fans were known to be the ones being pain in the ***.
If this actually works out ill applaud to Paulo lol
Once again, you made a amazing job Taeshi for causing the fans doing a uproar over fictional characters
EvilKitty3 March 19, 2014, 4:39 PM EST.
Well gee, being a dick usually warrants being treated as a dick.
Krestofh March 19, 2014, 4:49 PM EST.
I’m really glad that it’s NOT Daisy saying all this actually.. using her support for him when finding out about his mother would have been pretty cruel from her, I think. As if he owes her a relationship for it. Luckily though it’s not her saying it, it’s Paulo.
I do think Daisy has feelings for Abbey and they’re, what, 15/16? You can’t just expect love to happen, it can’t be an obligation because you can’t control it. I think now Daisy’s realised where her nostalgia can end her up, she’ll learn to let go of the idea of Mike (which is what I think she’s really hung up on - not Mike himself). I really hope these two get back together, but not on Paulo’s terms.
LadyMollington March 19, 2014, 4:49 PM EST.
Shhhh. You might disturb the confused ****s that think you shouldn’t judge Daisy for wanting to be promiscuous and casual with a guy who clearly is not comfortable with that mindset and has been drawn that way every time she has brought it up to him.
Because really, Abbey is too young to want love or consensual sex with someone that actually loves him back. He’s really just wanting TOO much of Daisy. Or anyone for that matter.
But it is absolutely fine for Daisy to want casual sex out of him. That’s not wanting too much. You better not hint that she’s out of line because it is fine for her to want this from a reluctant Abbey.
Even when the situation makes Daisy’s physical needs look really bad even now that she has Paulo literally trying to force Abbey to be with her. How long before Daisy pushes her sex needs on Abbey if they stay together?
She is clearly drawn as okay with Paulo pushing Abbey’s insecurities until she gets what she wants. She certainly hasn’t stopped Paulo’s hurtful cause. Who says she won’t act this way herself? Use his insecurities against him in the relationship?
I am seriously concerned for Abbey in nearly every way. He needs to get away from her toxic influence. If he doesn’t, there is a high-risk at this relationship will be setting a standard of Abbey being pushed into long-term damaging relationships and thinking this is normal.
He already has a tough way of dealing with love because his parents ****ed it up for him. Daisy non-love lust will screw with his head, far more than she’ll ever fix him. Drop the bitch Abbey! RUN!
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 4:51 PM EST.
I can see what paulo is trying to say. He is saying Daisy has always been there. He went way over the line though and if I was in abbeys furr I would have punched him in the face for that. But it seems abbey may have got what paulo was saying regardless of how rude and inappropriate his example was. Honestly Daisy can’t even say anything because paulo keeps butting in. Some help he was. But like one of my friends said it’s paulo. When isn’t he going over the line or making things worse. Paulo for worse relationship helper. Looks like Daisy got her face smashed pretty good.
Blue fox March 19, 2014, 4:57 PM EST.
typical paulo… maybe he should have what’s left of his family slaughtered in front of him and see how he likes it.
Thanatos March 19, 2014, 4:59 PM EST.
I have a feeling Paulo’s gonna be the new Mike soon.
Skylar March 19, 2014, 4:59 PM EST.
I refuse to believe that Daisy couldn’t have said ANYTHING. Not even a “Hey Paulo?” “Wait… this isn’t what I wanted!”
She doesn’t. She doesn’t even attempt. She has been helping him in his assault if anything, with the “It’ll never happen with Mike anyway.” So far she has only ENCOURAGED more of Paulo’s raging.
As of right now Daisy is clearly in agreement with what Paulo is saying, because it is so out-of-line that if she even slightly cared she’d say SOMETHING. This is unforgivable for her to stand by and watch considering she claims to care so much about Abbey!
And I like the point someone else brought up. Why DOES Paulo know about Abbey and his mom? Wasn’t this a secret he told only Daisy? With regard to a few rumors around school by Augustus. Did Daisy actually tell Paulo a secret that wasn’t hers to tell? What an absolute BITCH!
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 5:03 PM EST.
While Paulo has what looks to be genuinely good intentions; he’s going about this all wrong and shouldn’t even really involve himself in this.
Some Brit March 19, 2014, 5:05 PM EST.
And now that Paulo has yelled about Abbeys dead mom in front of the class, even more people know about it now.
Jonas97face March 19, 2014, 5:10 PM EST.
Daisy’s got a WHOLE LOTTA amending to-do first.
Half of it because of Paulo being a class 1 *******, and the other part because she tried to guilt trip him herself before she even got over Mike.
Abbey even made it simple and clear so even baby Daisy could understand the terms, and yet she didn’t get it.
I wouldn’t blame Abbey for labeling Daisy as a lost cause, because she’s CLEARLY a slow learner (and that’s being nice about describing her flaws)
Lister March 19, 2014, 5:14 PM EST.
Paulo may be right for the most part, but still, bringing up that dead mom thing is a REAL low blow. I can speak from experience, as my own mother died when I was 3.
Lord Lemmy March 19, 2014, 5:17 PM EST.
If Daisy can’t even tell Paulo to take the words back & shut the **** up and mind his own damn business, then she doesn’t love Abbey enough to sincerely say “I love you” to him.
And in that case she should buzz off and leave him alone until she has dealt with her own issues first and reflected on her ****ups
One two trees March 19, 2014, 5:17 PM EST.
lol, I think Paulo is venting the frustrations of some readers: JUST MAKE OUT ALREADY! Daisy and Mike ain’t never gonna ship, unless it’s in a fan fic (sorry, yall can bleed out your hearts as much as you want, but the reality is it most likely ain’t gonna happen).
Yeah, the “dead mom thing” was a pretty spectacular blow, I’ll admit.
Taeshi if there’s anything we can learn from this page previous ones and chapters like it, you know how to deliver da drama. Just look at dem comments! BA-BOOM! It’s like WWIII up in here for these lil’cartoon cats in a comic.
Blank On Purpose March 19, 2014, 5:22 PM EST.
I’m really just baffled at the skewed thinking. Just the constant commentary of people saying…
*How selfish of Abbey to want Daisy to love him *after being together for a year* but oh it’s cool if she wants to lose their virginity to each other, even though she still has the hots for some other dude because hey they’re just kids…*
The way the comic is portrayed it’s as though these *so called kids* are doing and experiencing adult situations so saying that they are too young to proclaim love is idiotic… *Especially if you look at other relationships like Mike, Sandy and Lucy…*
Maybe I’m just old school but I feel like this… If you are a kid wanting to play adult games be prepared for the consequences. Like heaven forbid, your boyfriend wanting his feelings of love reciprocated before ****ing like bunnies.
Taciturn March 19, 2014, 5:22 PM EST.
I know his heart is the right place, but Paulo please, PLEASE shut up. This isn’t even any of your business ugh. I wish Daisy would actually handle this instead of letting Paulo keep pushing this. If Abbey doesn’t want the relationship then leave him alone. He knows she feels something but it isn’t enough.
Tealjoy March 19, 2014, 5:22 PM EST.
Claude March 19, 2014, 5:24 PM EST.
I expected this. Abby won’t ever give in unless he’s put under a lot of pressure.
This isn’t going to ruin everyone’s relationships, it’s going to make them think about it, and it’s clearly working. He’s not giving Abby the chance to even try to be negative, he’s telling him to shut up so he understands the situation.
This is drastic, but clearly effective.
Xiro March 19, 2014, 5:39 PM EST.
That’s not cool, Paulo.
Just anon March 19, 2014, 5:39 PM EST.
@Hazel : +2
Sambo March 19, 2014, 5:48 PM EST.
I sincerely hope Daisy’s being forever friend-zoned for this.
A more ungrateful and immature bitch would be hard to find.
She deserves to forever walk the path of solitude by the way she handled all this.
JamJam March 19, 2014, 5:51 PM EST.
Not the best move but he’s making a point. As much as I see what Abbey went through, when it comes to relationship he can’t just plainly ask someone to “love” him on the first go. Besides, it is clear Daisy DOES feel something for him, but she’s still just confused. A decent BF will stick by her and actually support her in her choice, that or try and win her, not just plainfully go “You don’t love me, so goodbye”.
I think Paulo’s trying to say is “You won’t meet any other girl who went through ALOT with you, including meeting your mothers grave, supporting you, hearing your stories and etc etc. That alone is god damn perfect so stop trying to look for something even more perfect than that.”
Eyoooo March 19, 2014, 5:53 PM EST.
Paulo hates Abbey with an intensity only rivaled by the explosive energy of a nuclear bomb.
He’s in NO position to be a mediator between Abbey and Daisy since he’s obviously biased in Daisy’s favor.
Not to mention it is Daisy’s undying ladyboner for Mike that started this, since Abbey’s in no mental condition to be second fiddle.
Which would be unfair to anyone anyways.
Hoves March 19, 2014, 5:55 PM EST.
Tails March 19, 2014, 6:00 PM EST.
Honestly guys, I’m pretty sure that this page and the last one are just meant for comic relief. Just sit back, laugh, and enjoy it.
Sambo March 19, 2014, 6:01 PM EST.
You’re still not factoring in Abbey’s PoW.
He’s from a damaged/broken household, he can’t handle typical mindgames like this.
He NEEDS clear and concise actions and decisions, which Daisy has been completely incapable of providing for relationship-wise.
And Paulo’s just making it all worse by ruining Abbey’s self esteem, and thus, the progress Abbey’s made on healing his wounds.
Not to mention, Daisy hasn’t improved AT ALL, she’s still being a downright baby about responsibility when it comes to her flaws in their relationship.
Long story short: Daisy and Paulo just made it ALL WORSE, and now it’s definitely too late for Daisy to amend the mistakes she’s made.
Brisleft March 19, 2014, 6:02 PM EST.
Paulo is somewhat emulating Lucy in the sense that he truly cares deep down, but also feels obligated to put a spin on his words in a way that don’t cast him in a light as being perceived as soft or effeminate. It’s been a blatant fact that he lacks confidence in himself. By being crude and untactful, he is just masking his insecurities. Same with Lucy. Maybe that is a small part of what attracted him to her (besides the bod); he sees a little of himself in her.
Purin March 19, 2014, 6:02 PM EST.
I kind of want to kick paulo in the face now
weirdedoutfox March 19, 2014, 6:04 PM EST.
@lick-it - I don’t think Daisy ever wanted to have casual sex with Abbey - she wanted to get condoms to be safe, and then thought that the two of them getting them together was romantic and it kinda got her in love with the idea I think. I really don’t think Daisy is “promiscuous” - she’s a hormonal 15 year old experiencing her first urges.
However, while I think Daisy has been good for him in the past (encouraging him to go to therapy, supporting him, ect) I do agree that coming from a broken home, Abbey NEEDS a relationship where he feels secure and loved. He can’t handle “maybes” right now, he needs consistency and definite foundations established.
The poor guy has always been on rocky ground, he needs to feel secure.
Kay March 19, 2014, 6:16 PM EST.
He’s incredibly insensitive but… he’s trying.
Guesswho March 19, 2014, 6:19 PM EST.
I think a lot of people forget that this Paulo he has had that bullying factor even when he cares for a friend and hates seeing them upset. He was trying to help and frankly I think he did a good job at helping in his own way he just needs to be careful what he say and what lines to not cross and truthfully Daisy would never be able to say she want him back be she too shy, Paulo you did well just don’t cross anymore lines. I hope they get back together
problem? March 19, 2014, 6:27 PM EST.
he went to far this time with the dead mother and makeout thing . i think abbey is the going to do something so terrible that paulo won’t regret !
star March 19, 2014, 6:32 PM EST.
Yeah, they are not getting back together with any help by Paulo.
More like they’re NEVER getting together now…
Ruining Abbey’s mental state doesn’t help, but that’s the only thing Paulo’s been doing.
He’s a horrible person to Abbey, and a misguided friend to Daisy.
And a all-around dick.
Scinter March 19, 2014, 6:44 PM EST.
Paulo is annoying right now…
A March 19, 2014, 6:45 PM EST.
“So make out with her”
HeavenlySatanic March 19, 2014, 6:48 PM EST.
If Paulo said that to me … I would strangle him. I would honestly try my best to beat him with in a millimeter of his life. My mother died a little over two years ago and Im still struggling with it. And that would cause me to snap. Someone needs to put Paulo in his place, and at this point I wouldn’t care if someone did it via chair to the head.
He’s a piece of crap and doesn’t have any redeeming qualities as a person to make him even slightly forgivable. He’s not even doing this to help Daisy at this point, he’s straight up showing how much he loathes Abbey, and this gives him enough fuel and incentive to say what he wants to say. He’s been extra pissy since Lucy left … and that’s no excuse for his behavior. I wouldnt bat an eye if Paulo did the same. The group would seriously be better off without him. He’s straight up toxic.
Canny March 19, 2014, 6:51 PM EST.
**** it. That doesn’t excuse Paulo for being the ******** he is to bring all of this up and play on Abbey’s insecurities. Stop standing up for Daisy and Paulo. They are so insensitive, they ought to be put in dentention for their ****.
And this is assuming the Askblog is canon. Even if Abbey told Paulo this information, Paulo is no less a dick to think childhood trauma is unacceptable baggage and marks someone unlovable and difficult to deal with.
Please Tails, consider who you are defending at this point. Paulo is being a royal jerkwad, and Daisy has yet to even “defend” the guy she wants back with.
And a big **** you to @eyooo
If YOU think being in love with an emotionally traumatized person is such a charity case, I pray to god your non-emphatic negativity stays the **** away from those people.
Because your insensitivity towards what they’ve been through is appalling if you are acting like they are damaged goods over something that happened to them as children a long time ago.
This is an acceptable stance. Though I think Daisy as a hole has done more harm.
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 6:52 PM EST.
Man, these 5 minuets er-something something before class is a long 5 minuets er sometime sometime.
Vanvoltra March 19, 2014, 6:59 PM EST.
The last panel is heard in a multiple possessed voices at the same time! hehe
Renshear Blade March 19, 2014, 7:00 PM EST.
Paulo best matchmaker 2014
Dragnite March 19, 2014, 7:03 PM EST.
I didn’t think this would ever happen but I now do not like Paulo that much anymore.
You don’t just bring something that was traumatic to someone up in public for everyone to hear. I really want to see Abbey punch Paulo right now, I honestly do.
I get where Paulo is coming from though, Daisy did do a LOT for him with the counselling and even visiting his mothers grave with him, but I can also see where Abbey is coming from as well. He comes from a broken home so he feels he needs a relationship where he can be loved and feel happy but I honestly don’t think he’s going to get that with Daisy, even if Mike and Daisy will never happen there’s still that fact that she likes Mike more than Abbey.
We’ll just have to see what happens in these next few pages.
Otoribashi March 19, 2014, 7:04 PM EST.
I agree Abbey needs SOME tough love to see things in a more present, realistic way (not ‘what ifs’). HOWEVER: I agree that Daisy is toxic to him at this present time in the comic. Until she realizes how she’s being selfish and, dare I say it, damaging to Abbey, the two will never have a real and healthy relationship beyond ‘it was really, really nice’.
Also, as far as the ‘tough love’ goes, anyone except Paulo should have done it, and in private. I mean really, he’s just being a dick and I usually like Paulo, haha.
Silas March 19, 2014, 7:06 PM EST.
Remind me to never ask Paul for relationship help. Didn’t this start out as Daisy helping him?
HunterKiotori March 19, 2014, 7:08 PM EST.
Not only something that happened to them as a child, but something that they, and by extension, Abbey, would likely blame themselves for. The implication of @eyooo’s comment essentially reinforces the idea that they’re at fault for things they have no control over.
Damonashu March 19, 2014, 7:09 PM EST.
Considering most of Abbey’s life has been tough, Tough Love isn’t what he needs, in fact he needs the exact opposite.
He needs someone who UNDERSTANDS his feelings and thoughts, and the fact that this as escalated so far means that Daisy is completely and utter incapable of that.
She is literally selfish and toxic to Abbey due to that.
Nile March 19, 2014, 7:13 PM EST.
Dang Paulo, taking chances with that “nobody wants to hear about your dead mom” comment!
illeatyourself March 19, 2014, 7:17 PM EST.
If Daisy actually cared about Abbey and emotionally empathized with his trauma, rather than her half-*** sympathy, there is no way she’d let Paulo emotionally wail on him in this manner.
Speaking as someone that is dating someone like Abbey, if I were Daisy’s shoes, I’d knock out the teeth out of anyone that emotionally terrorized someone I loved in front of me over such a tragedy, even after they’d broken up with me.
Because I’d have history with them when they had rough patches with their childhood trauma. I’d have enough emphatic understanding to realize how much damage Paulo’s tirade is doing with me (the ex who once helped them) standing there silent. I wouldn’t stand to be a part of it.
Daisy is just as guilty as Paulo. For not talking to Abbey herself. For involving Paulo. For not doing this in private. For not even being a decent human being and stopping Paulo once he got this far out of line.
And if anyone wants to claim that it is in any way justified to bring up someone’s dead mother/childhood trauma as unlovable baggage that a significant (Daisy) merely put up with “like a saint”, please realize that you sound awful.
Not only to you lack the ability to understand other people’s crisis past your own, but you make life worse for those people with childhood trauma by telling them that they are at fault for an unpreventable tragedy.
That is sick and twisted. Please recognize this and fix your ****-poor attitude. You can start by actually realizing that people with childhood trauma often blame themselves, when it is NEVER their fault that something tragic happened.
So quit being an evil villain and verifying their personal demons. Dickwads.
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 7:24 PM EST.
@Lickit If there was a like function, I’d spam it until my fingers went numb
Canny March 19, 2014, 7:32 PM EST.
H-how tactful, Paolo… ^^;
Lislet March 19, 2014, 7:33 PM EST.
Punch him in the face with your words!
Delta Pangaea March 19, 2014, 7:43 PM EST.
To my knowledge, askbcb is (mostly) canon (especially the answers to the asks), also, it was clarified in the bcb chat that it was canon. So have fun looking through it!
Those tags are relevant atm:
Also, i do not directly defend what paulo and daisy do here, with the link i just wanted to clarify where paulo got his knowledge about Abbeys past.
Tails March 19, 2014, 7:47 PM EST.
BUT if he is just her consolation then hes better off NOT being with her. Look daisy and abbey are the only two ****ers on this comic who dont make me **** blood in anger any more but you should never be a ****ing silver medal. if shes only with him cus she cant have mike then that just makes her a bad person. I bet she could easily say she loves mike, i dont think she can do the same for poor abbey.
anonymous March 19, 2014, 7:51 PM EST.
How can people possibly defend Paulo? It just blows my mind.
Canny March 19, 2014, 7:51 PM EST.
Fair enough. I’ve got a headache from the amount of blind shipping stupidity from today’s page.
I just hope you are not blindly following the Pro-Paulo wave.
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 7:52 PM EST.
Paulo likes Lucy. Lucy is nowhere. Paulo likes Daisy. Daisy is available. Paulo could get with Daisy. Abbey would be mad at Daisy and Paulo. Paulo would only be half-happy. Daisy would have to deal with Paulo’s half-happiness. Bad relationship. Daisy gets back with Abbey = Paulo can still pursue Lucy, AND Daisy and Abbey will be happy. So, Paulo is a hero of sacrifice and grief. If Paulo’s dad is a symbol of grief. Then Paulo’s mom made a sacrifice OR Paulo’s dad underwent sacrifice when Paulo’s mom disappeared, left, died, etc.
Pokemon Half-Breeder March 19, 2014, 7:53 PM EST.
Way to go Paulo.
As if noone here was ever in a similiar situation.
kommo1 March 19, 2014, 7:58 PM EST.
Outside of Mike, Sandy, Sue, Tess and Abbey, I realized I find the rest of the cast pretty unlikeable. What kind of friends keep trying to bully people into getting into a relationship that they don’t want to be in?
Also do you notice the utter hypocrisy of the commenters? Back when Lucy told Mike she loved him and Mike told her that he doesn’t love her back, people were giving Mike all kinds of **** about how it was meant to be, how this thing with Sandy is just an infatuation, how he should’ve just stood up for himself for all teh beatings given to him by Lucy, that Mike knows deep down that he loves Lucy and should be with her and all that nonsense. Completely ignoring that he was done with her by that point and MOVED ON.
And now we have the same situation, only reversed. Abbey is the one who loves Daisy but she doesn’t feel the same way towards him. And what are people saying?
“abbey ur just kids lol u 2 young to kno wat luv is lololol stop being a drama queen and mess around a bit”. Cuz, you know, **** what the male in the relationship wants or needs. When they want love and respect its “gawd so unreasonable” but when the female characters want it and don’t get it its “oh the poor babies how can you be so cruel and not love them and worship the ground they walk on”.
Its been rather tiring reading BCB lately simply because of Paulo being the focus of it so damn much and NOBODY giving HIM a “reason you suck speech” beating that he rightly deserves. If Abbey caves in and decides Paulo is right and that he isn’t worth anyone’s time or love and goes back to Daisy because he sees her as a last resort, I just hope his friends (and I mean his REAL friends) actually stand up for him and help him. I can’t imagine Mike hearing all this and just sitting there, considering his own experience.
Abbey definitely shouldn’t have to put up with Daisy and Paulo’s ****. ESPECIALLY Paulo’s ****. Paulo is merely taking the opportunity to tear into Abbey for the sake of it because of their dislike for each other. The fact that he wants to “help” Daisy is just a convenient excuse.
Daisy is an idiot who can’t look at things from other people’s perspectives, which leads to her immature and selfish behaviour. Paulo on the other hand CAN look at things from other people’s perspective (like when Lucy went BAAAAAW at him and he told her that all Mike wanted from her was a little respect), its just that he doesn’t give a **** about you unless you have a ******. He doesn’t care about Abbey’s very legitimate psychological issues. He doesn’t even want to care. He just wants his perfect Daisy to be happy.
In closing, Paulo is a ****. The type of **** that would be kicked out of every circle of friends in real life 10 times over for all the stuff he unapologetically does, says and then blames on anyone but himself.
Dean March 19, 2014, 8:03 PM EST.
Like I said before, while Paulo has good intentions for his friend, he’s going about this all wrong. Especially bringing up Abbey’s dead mother. SAY SOMETHING TO STOP HIM DAISY! Paulo and Abbey have a mutual dislike of each other and that’s fine. Paulo doesn’t have to be Abbey’s friend. He doesn’t have to sugarcoat it, but he SHOULD be a decent human (cat) being and know that using emotional trauma against someone is evil. BARKBARKBARK! Ring a bell Paulo? If he wasn’t going to at least be mildly respectful to Abbey he should not have gotten involved.
Shouldn’t be involved in the first place really. Daisy should grow a spine and deal with her personal relationship problems alone. Asking for advice an help is cool and all, but flat out involving a third person in relationship problems is low. Involving someone in personal emotional trauma is even lower.
All the while Daisy sits in the background looking frightened while her so-called ‘boyfriend’ she ‘likes’ so much gets emotionally beaten into te ground. Too scared to defend someone you care about? Hell, she doesn’t even ‘like’ Abbey at this point.
So go cry to Augustus, bitch. He’ll take you with open arms.
Some Brit March 19, 2014, 8:06 PM EST.
If I was in Abbey’s position right now, this would kill any change of heart I would have with getting back with Daisy. For one, she can’t speak for herself. She needs the biggest ******* around to talk for her. She didn’t care enough to send the rose, or at least write her own name. Her biggest mistake was involving someone over a matter between them in the first place. If she had any respect for Abbey at all, she wouldn’t have crossed that line. She would have woman up and pulled Abbey aside to talk to him one on one. It’s fine to be upset, It’s fine to share your feelings with a friend. It’s not fine to start a dramafest in the middle of class … and to make matters more annoying, a teacher should had stepped in two pages ago. Abbey is being pushed into a corner for absolutely no reason other to satisfy another’s selfish desires who doesn’t even consider his to be viable enough to take into consideration. To pour salt into his wounds, he now has a very painful and private matter thrown out into the public, not by him, but a ******* who wants to show his ***, show his dislike, and rub it in. Paulo and Daisy need a seat in detention or some kind of punishment. And Abbey needs to go home and get away from two toxic individuals who’s just going to make the day drag on and that much worse.
Canny March 19, 2014, 8:09 PM EST.
goddamn, Paulo….bit a low blow
rick March 19, 2014, 8:11 PM EST.
Paulo isnt Paulo anymore. Paulo is possessed by the spirits of shippers who has overwhelmed Paulos being.
wolven_DM March 19, 2014, 8:30 PM EST.
O H MY GOD PAUL ONO OMFG
Pirari March 19, 2014, 8:45 PM EST.
*in Edward Elric’s voice*: You know, there are really some lines you just shouldn’t cross.
$adiq March 19, 2014, 8:50 PM EST.
I don’t find this funny…. He’s guilting abbey into being with her again. That’s the worst thing you can do
idk anymore March 19, 2014, 8:51 PM EST.
I’ve heard of aggressive shipping, Paulo, but THIS is ridiculous O_O
Chocothunda March 19, 2014, 8:55 PM EST.
I don’t understand why any of this is apparently okay. Why is it okay for Paulo to baby daisy so she can just have her way, why is it okay to bully abbey, so much so that I’d be surprised if he can even hold his head up. It seems extremely unfair that abbey is being bullied into thinking he has to be with daisy otherwise he’ll be alone forever. Top notch high school thinking there, if you don’t take this girl who doesn’t love you, then you won’t have anybody else ever. It’s very depressing that both Paulo and daisy are flat out forcing abbey to be with her again. Even if he said yes out of all this bullying and pressure, what the hell kind of relationship will they have? Daisy gets happy again and abbey feels like ****. Then when abbey doesn’t feel like being close or making out or whatever, daisy would probably just be all mopey again. So I don’t really see the point of the relationship anymore. If it was done a different way, if they maybe talked it out just with each other then it might maybe work. But like this, it’s selfish as all hell. And I don’t really see how much good can come of it.
Maybe a twist of luck, something good will happen for abbey by the end of this. But so far it seems like he’s pressured to feel doomed to be feeling ******. Because in Paulo’s eyes, abbeys feelings mean nothing, and daisys mean everything. If anyone was gonna talk to them about it, it should be someone who isn’t so biased like Paulo is.
Fan among fans March 19, 2014, 8:56 PM EST.
“Outside of Mike, Sandy, Sue, Tess and Abbey, I realized I find the rest of the cast pretty unlikeable”
And yet both Paulo and Mike employed the same tactics (remember “December”?), yet you only dislike one of them.
Rillev March 19, 2014, 8:56 PM EST.
Well, i am not a shipper (never really had interest in it), but honestly, i still like paulo. But i do agree that he got overboard with the “dead mother” thing (althrough i can understand why it´s “crybaby” behavior for him, when i see at his own very troubled childhood and his own expieriences in the past ). And about this “private things thrown out on public” stuff, i had my fair share of it too and also had several friends who have/had to deal with it, but well, with social media pages like facebook, tumblr youtube and twitter, it´s often rather almost impossible to have things that you wanna keep private to be NOT thrown out to the public by someone else (those sites even partly ENFORCE it and even collect it to sell those infos to companies!) and after seeing several people spamming those sites with supposed “private stuff” across all over the place, i think that paulos attack on here is rather small compared to this stuff that happens almost everyday, can be seen almost worldwide practically forever.
Tails March 19, 2014, 9:04 PM EST.
Let nobody pretend that Mike isn’t as bad as Paulo @Dean. Paulo just has even less reason than Mike did for his misplaced anger. But Mike was still wrong to terrorize Lucy.
Part of Lucy’s violent/shy behavior was a result of the run-around Mike gave her pretending she was Sandy. Mike had a right to drop her as a friend over it. But not scream at her, or attack her vulnerabilities. Especially after she made a decent effort to leave him alone and avoid him completely while she fixed herself. Mike is still largely the villain in their saga.
It is a small attack in comparison to what he could do. But considering Daisy is involved in the way she is and keeping silent, I guarantee Abbey is hurt far worse from her than if Paulo were to bully him online.
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 9:11 PM EST.
@Rillev no, because the circumstances and context were different. The divide between Lucy and Mike had been building up for YEARS. It was nearing its breaking point by the time Lucy was trying to confess her feelings for Mike. When Daisy and co tried to force the two together when both obviously needed space away from each other, Mike started resenting Lucy and couldn’t stand being with her anymore.
He wanted her OUT of his life when he blew up at her in December. However, he later realized that he didn’t handle the situation very well and you know what he tried to do? Man up and tried to fix it, even if he got shooed away, he most likely would try to fix it when he gets the chance.
It also helps that he wasn’t an obnoxious, arrogant douche like Paulo from the start and outside of Lucy, he was pretty friendly with almost everyone. He didn’t cause trouble and then tell everyone off for getting sick of him and not take responsibility for his immature behaviour. Mike tries to learn from his mistakes. Paulo ignores them entirely. He has learned NOTHING.
Also, Paulo didn’t like Abbey (almost) from the very start. Friends don’t put their feet up on your head while you wait in class, or call people stupid nerds for wanting to learn and then blame them for getting sick of his irresponsible behaviour. He’s blowing up at him simply because Daisy is making sad faces, not because Abbey’s been a dick to him for so long that he has 10 years worth of frustration, anger and resentment boiled up inside.
If I could be arsed, I would make a list of things Mike and Paulo have done in the story so far that makes me like one more than the other. But the fact that Paulo is an obnoxious, unfriendly ******* to everyone who isn’t Jazz, Tess, Lucy, Daisy or Rachel and can’t get his head out of his arse is already a big reason for my dislike towards him.
Dean March 19, 2014, 9:18 PM EST.
@Lickit&stickit I agree, looking back at December that there was no justification for how he annihilated her, but its understandable why he did it, even if it was wrong. However, he has shown more redeeming qualities than Paulo.
Dean March 19, 2014, 9:21 PM EST.
These days I only like Jazz, Lucy, Tess, and Abbey.
I am on the fence about Sandy, Sue, Jessica, we don’t see enough of them to make a stance really.
I liked Augustus a lot before her was harassing Daisy.
But yeah, the main cast is really unlikable. And they push their drama to the limits with each other. I agree with a lot of your points @Dean
Paulo always had a good heart, but he screws it all up in moments like this. I’m sick of his female run-around as well. He obviously doesn’t like Lucy to be jumping into bed with other people and dating others even when she was around. He’s full of it really.
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 9:25 PM EST.
The sad thing is, the posibility of Abbey dragged into guilt-trip (and ultimately, forced to do something he does not want to do right now) because Paulo’s words. I know, Paulo sounds now like a bullish, insensitive, white-knigthing fella for Daisy ( Yo, Daisy, it’s time you grow some ovaries… this ain’t right). But it’s easy to bully a person into submision , hitting dem weak points. Daisy can’t even see how damaging is Paulo argument to her ex. Abbey needs a more mature partner, who can stand for him. Seeing how Daisy lets Paulo berate Abbey, she’s still not cut to the job. Better wise up, and fast, Daisy.
Whinnie March 19, 2014, 9:31 PM EST.
Maybe we should all channel our inner sue?;)
Also, there is an interesting thing from jasmine
Tails March 19, 2014, 9:40 PM EST.
Last panel: a Mercator projection of Paulo’s face.
darklion March 19, 2014, 9:48 PM EST.
All I can say is come on Abby. You guys are in high school you shouldn’t be worried about true love yet, and even still nothing is to say Daisy wont love you eventually. You’re both young it’s okay to be afraid of these kinda feelings still. You two where happy together so just let things play out. At this point in there lives breaking up over the fact she’s not in love yet is a stupid reason.
TimeBunny March 19, 2014, 9:56 PM EST.
Are you seriously downplaying the dickishness of Paulo’s behavior?
Wow, just when i though you couldn’t sink any lower, you actually DO.
Just because others do it doesn’t mean it is justified.
In-fact, that makes you both a weak pushover who doesn’t stand up against bad behavior AND a enabler of abuse.
Both which are just as bad as committing them first-hand.
Ziero March 19, 2014, 9:57 PM EST.
Paulo dated others while Lucy was around, because he knew she wanted Mike. Yeah, he is weak in resistance to “the pleasures of the flesh” but he doesn’t have the experience base to be possessed of a greater resistance. All of the characters are acting their age, they are teenagers after all. Promiscuity has risks for any one of any age, yet somehow when we are younger we seem to believe that the statistic never can or will be us. Just sayin’.
anon March 19, 2014, 10:00 PM EST.
Did you honestly and purposely miss all the talk that has been regarding how that’s bad behavior which will enable further bad behavior?
Zeeb March 19, 2014, 10:00 PM EST.
Last panel is brilliant LOL
Tiido March 19, 2014, 10:07 PM EST.
Problem is, he wasn’t fully sincere when he tried with the only chance he got, and since he now wasted that, she is gone.
Now Mike MUST make a big sacrifice to set things right (tell the adults and thus lose privileges), but so far he’s been more than reluctant in doing so.
He’s still on the “very naughty” list, along with the recently added Daisy, but Paulo’s about to get his own “very VERY naughty” list
Rillev March 19, 2014, 10:12 PM EST.
this is getting grosser and grosser by the page lmao
i can’t even tell if the “dead mom” thing is for humorous effect or not because if it is that……isn’t funny
not even remotely
paulo is out of line and if abbey were to punch him instead of just sitting there glumly he would deserve it
he’d deserve 10
it’s not even his business, it’s because daisy is too spineless and immature to do anything herself
Stuffnthat March 19, 2014, 10:42 PM EST.
If Abbey wants to find the one, who are you to act like he’s wrong for wanting that? Abbey wanting love at a debatable “premature” age is not a good enough reason for Paulo or Daisy to be allowed to force him back into a toxic relationship with their manipulation tactics they are currently using.
It’s easy to say, “Abbey shouldn’t expect love right now.” Therefore, Daisy is right to want him back. But while you’re making yourself feel better with that mantra, add to it with the actual events that ARE happening in front of you:
1) “Daisy shouldn’t expect Abbey to fine with the knowledge that she won’t love him, but has been regularly encouraging them to start getting intimate.”
2) “Daisy shouldn’t expect Abbey to date her while she wants Mike.”
3) “Daisy should take action in her OWN love life.”
4) “Daisy should say something to stop Paulo instead of watching as he berates someone she claims to want to date again.”
5) “Paulo shouldn’t be doing the relationship fixing FOR Daisy.”
6) “Paulo shouldn’t be involved AT ALL because he hates Abbey.”
Start looking at these facts, think about them logically. STOP looking at the askblog section for help from unrelated instances.
Lickit&stickit March 19, 2014, 10:45 PM EST.
I keep agreeing with Paulo. And then I keep regretting it.
Mike March 19, 2014, 10:55 PM EST.
Well I used to think Paulo was ok, but this behaviour and what he is doing is outright bullying. It is in no way, shape or form considered ok behaviour. Humiliating someone like that, yelling abuse at them, in front of everyone in the class, verbally spewing hatred at them is utterly terrible and disgusting.
And Daisy, just sitting there and hoping it’ll work? Makes her just as bad, she doesn’t seem to care enough to even stop the abuse, she just wants her way. Quite frankly, these two are turning out to be terribly selfish people.
All the people that are blinded by their favourite ‘ship’…. effing seriously? Why does all of you seem to think that Abbey should just suck it up and be with a selfish brat like Daisy when she was a good friend to him, but a terrible girlfriend. She still has the hots for Mike, and her justification? ‘See, it won’t happen with Mike, so you should just totally be with me though i’ll still keep pining after Mike and be really disappointed I didn’t kiss him at that party while I was so drunk I don’t remember anything’.
Niv March 19, 2014, 10:55 PM EST.
Sooo… I just watched the Hunchback of Notre Dame… Is it me or does Frollo seem a BIT too much leaning on the rapist and WTF-Disney side?
TheScarletTailedFox March 19, 2014, 10:56 PM EST.
Wait, wha- @Mike, MIKE!!!! BSCB Mike or Shortpacked!/Dumbing of Age Mike?
TheScarletTailedFox March 19, 2014, 10:57 PM EST.
This is horrible. Look at Abbey’s face.
Somehow I don’t think having someone yell at him about his dead mom is the best thing for him. The fight’s completely gone out of him.
The Weirdo March 19, 2014, 11:01 PM EST.
@TheScarletTailedFox I dunno… Ursula creeped me out… Did you know she was based off of a drag queen?
LoopdeLoops March 19, 2014, 11:15 PM EST.
I have a bad feeling all of the beratement from Paulo and silence from Daisy is making Abbey start to think this is somehow all his fault and he’s a bad person for it. I hope he doesn’t get back together with her just because he’s let others convince himself that he’s a villian and that Daisy is too good for him so that he should just be with his ‘perfect little angel’ because he’s lucky such ‘perfection’ would be willing to take someone so ‘undeserving’ as he is.
Some Brit March 19, 2014, 11:23 PM EST.
… Hey, guys? Don’t Paulo’s eyes look like candles in the last panel?
LoopdeLoops March 19, 2014, 11:56 PM EST.
@13linding - Obviously those are all from guys. Girls don’t think about people in the shower either, clearly. Nope, everyone thinks he’s secretly gay and is after him. Including Oreo-cat! (Who I forgot the name of again. Was it Matt?)
Seriously, though, Paulo may just think so because in his experience girls don’t do that. No one ever got HIM a flower. >.>
That is a low blow, though. Paulo really needs to be a bit more sensitive. And why hasn’t the teacher interrupted yet?
Zone March 19, 2014, 11:57 PM EST.
@Zone HOLY CRAP! MAYBE IT’S CARSON!! HE’S BACKKKKKKKKK!
LoopdeLoops March 19, 2014, 11:58 PM EST.
Hey, guys… I’ve been reading this since Lucy left (that EXACT day when the teach announced it) and I found it a from the ‘in Wonderland-like dream’ on the internet. Yea, so it’s in the name: If you feel sad or need a smile… Just leave me a comment.
Needasmile?Comment March 20, 2014, 12:05 AM EST.
Paulo… seriously, shut the **** up.
I haven’t found Paulo quite this irritating since the infamous “anti-cheater squad” shenanigans, and I’m honestly hoping Abbey knocks his *** into next week. This isn’t tough love. Hell, this even goes beyond guilt-tripping. This is outright bullying — admittedly a sore spot for me, having been bullied myself, which is likely why I couldn’t stand Lucy either. Telling Abbey he’s worthless, he’s unlovable, he’s a crybaby for being upset over his mother’s death… yeah, that’ll have him running back to Daisy in a heartbeat. But if that still doesn’t work, you could always taunt him about his abusive father!
And what the hell does Paulo know about relationships anyway? The only time we’ve seen him with an actual “girlfriend,” he spent the entire duration of their relationship pining after Lucy.
In the past five chapters of this comic we’ve seen Jasmine call him out for being immature; we’ve seen Sue call him out for being careless and scatterbrained; we’ve even seen Daisy tell him he takes things way too far. And all of that went in one ear and right out the other. He’s just as big of a ********* as he’s ever been. A good old-fashioned ***-whooping is probably the only thing that might get through to him at this point.
A. Nonymous March 20, 2014, 12:08 AM EST.
Damn Paulo, your wrecking Abbey yo.
Asdf March 20, 2014, 12:31 AM EST.
You’re my hero
Rae March 20, 2014, 12:36 AM EST.
I think you’re going a bit too far the girl hasn’t even been given a honest CHANCE to respond. This escalated pretty quickly! Its not like we see her cosigning it or agreeing, every time they try to talk Paulo keeps butting in. Realistically/honestly shes probably in total shock, I think we should give her a chance to respond/do something before we throw her completely under the bus.
I find way more fault with Paulo then her at the moment as she didn’t even ASK for his help. He just jumped in an took the car off the road, I agree that she not only should stand up for him. But that shes also not handled this situation well at all, and if she does NOT stand up an do something then she is truly horrible.
Samm-y March 20, 2014, 12:53 AM EST.
Very intimidating Paulo.
Mcturtle March 20, 2014, 1:03 AM EST.
AWW HELL NAWW!!!!
No way, why be with somebody who can’t even say “I love you”…..
<- I had such respect for you once Daisy.. I thought you were a perfect couple.. look at you now..
WTH March 20, 2014, 1:08 AM EST.
I don’t care what anyone says I fricken love paulo xD
Dat Paulo March 20, 2014, 1:09 AM EST.
I honestly just think that what Daisy and Abbey are looking for just doesn’t mesh up right now. But I hate the Daisy-bashing that’s going on, mainly because I’m cowardly. I’m treated like a kid by my friends and I always have someone trying to speak for me. I really hope Daisy’s face in the last panel is an indication that she’ll be standing up for Abbey; then again, Paulo is being Paulo and helping (albeit in an insensitive way) his friend. I don’t know how much more he can take before he starts to feel isolated, especially if Daisy lashes out at him! …And I really miss Lucy. Even alternate town Lucy is better than no Lucy at all; her chapters were so cathartic for me, and I want to know how she’s recovering, dangit!
Also guys?? There are a few guidelines before you type a comment. “Be civil, and stay on topic!” Excusing the last part…comments like “Daisy is the worst kind of cowardly bitch”. @Lickit …if that’s you being civil, I don’t want to get into it.
Allison March 20, 2014, 1:18 AM EST.
To be fair, Daisy is exactly at Lickit described; a cowardly sack of crap. He’s not calling a real person a cowardly bitch or saying it to someone in the comments. I assume civil means towards one another; not that, that really seems to matter either haha. I don’t think the comic creator gives a **** what goes on here personally. Probably thinks it’s perfectly fine for us to duke it out. I mean he did close the forums down just to avoid directly interacting with the fans. Not that I blame anyone for it. I would too.
Some Brit March 20, 2014, 1:33 AM EST.
Paulo is trying to help but he isn’t he’s making things worse hope Abby and daisy get back together and I hope Lucy comes back to the school the drawers could do a little segment on how Lucy is Doing and we’re she is and her whole situation also I know drawing is hard work especially having to put it up on a site but everyone and me would appreciate it if you could post more faster I’m not tarting to be mean but it would be really nice because I love the series and the comics that were edited were good even before the edits
Ty March 20, 2014, 1:40 AM EST.
Paulo… you have such a beautiful way with words~
TarriPup March 20, 2014, 2:03 AM EST.
I’m kind of hoping that this will all blow up and end with Daisy running back to Augustus.
OldTimeShipper March 20, 2014, 2:03 AM EST.
Ok yeah maybe Paulo went overboard…. IF this was real life and not a comic… which it is.
funny comic is funny and this made me crack up
and no I am not dead yet, just quietly watching from the side
foreveryoung5 March 20, 2014, 2:45 AM EST.
I agree with @Samm-y. She should be given a chance to tell Paulo off… until the next page. If she doesn’t tell Paulo off during the next page upload I for one will not forgive her. She can easily stand up for Abbey against Paulo. Hell she can easily stand up against Paulo. Remember this: http://www.bittersweetcandybowl.com/c38/p12.html
Wow look at Paulo on panel 16. He looks really hurt.
I loved your comment.
About the ”selling companies information on facebook”. You’ve been watching 60 minutes haven’t you? I watch them too and I also saw the facebook company thing and I was shocked.
Jonas97face March 20, 2014, 5:14 AM EST.
Also. I’ve read every single comment that has been commented since I left and it took me 1 and a half hour to do so. . There was a lot of interesting stuff and I’m glad that I read it all. Gosh I love the comment section. None stopping drama . Love it
Jonas97face March 20, 2014, 5:16 AM EST.
*scrolls past the mountains of text*
Paulo, I love you.
Sixcolors March 20, 2014, 6:26 AM EST.
Does anyone else here want someone to punch Paulo out right now? Because he freaking deserves it right about now. This is none of his god-damned buisness! He should have just left it up to Daisy and Abbey to sort things out but no! He sticks his big fat nose into things and is being a complete and utter *******! Don’t deny it, that fact is staring you right in the face. So Abbey, somebody, punch Paulo out and punch his lights out good because that is all he deserves for his behaviour.
Crystalzoner March 20, 2014, 7:13 AM EST.
@ Onetwotrees I’m sure part of Daisy wants to stop paulo for his rude behavior. But Daisy is shy and timed. With how small and far away she looks in the last panel it’s like she might as well not even be thare. I can imagine Daisy trying to say something to paulo but he’s being so loud and in abbeys face he wouldn’t hear it. Only if Daisy gets a little burst of courage and Go’s up to paulo and gets in the way would he stop. Maby give him a well deserved slap. But right now Daisy might as well not even be thare. I’m hoping she stops paulo soon. But a broken hart is blind. So this will probably continue to get worse before it gets better.
@ Crystalzoner I think one reason why abbey haven’t punched paulo is because Daisy is thare. He doesn’t want to make things worse by fighting with a good friend of hers. He may not love her any more but he doesn’t hate her. But if abbey and paulo got in a fight that would be just the right moment for Daisy to jump in between them and protect abbey and show she cares for him.
Blue fox March 20, 2014, 7:25 AM EST.
The Black Keys- Little black submarine lyrics: http://youtu.be/1wklgehHnDE Daisys song
Blue fox March 20, 2014, 7:56 AM EST.
Ah, now I understand why Paulo loves Lucy so much!
They’re both spiteful, selfish bullies who only care about their own feelings.
Punch him in the neck Abbey.
Andy March 20, 2014, 8:26 AM EST.
I still love this comic, but its getting harder for me to find characters in it to identify with.
Daisy used to be my favourite character, but she’s acted so selfish lately that I’ve lost a lot of respect for her.
Paulo has moved from jerk-with-a-heart-of-gold territory to full on bully.
Mike is still a good person at heart but he’s become bitter from all the abuse.
I never liked Lucy anyway but she left as she was starting to get kinder.
Abbey I really like but he keeps getting crapped on.
Rachel I like but she’s not really in it.
However, Taeshi is a great writer, and part of me gets the feeling that this is deliberate, and we’re in for some character development soon, I hope!
Rammy March 20, 2014, 8:30 AM EST.
Gee Paulo, Tell us how you really feel lol
Caitlin March 20, 2014, 8:32 AM EST.
jesus christ this fandom is nuts
anonymous March 20, 2014, 8:53 AM EST.
ABBEY X PAULO WHOS WITH ME
Lolly March 20, 2014, 9:31 AM EST.
THE LAST PANEL OOOOHH MY GOD HAHAHAHAHA
gea March 20, 2014, 9:35 AM EST.
That is just too awkward….
Wolf Haley March 20, 2014, 11:05 AM EST.
Okay that was awesome.
I know that the whole strip is about highschool drama. But sometimes the drama is like an extra character it’s so much.
Thankfully Paulo knows how to rectify this situation. In fact it isn’t even really about angst. It’s just simplifying things.
I said before, it’s not like Abbey HAS to date, but to get hung up on her not saying she loves him is silly. A lot of people say “I love you”, all the time, and don’t mean it. The way that he said about it really put her on the spot and isn’t dating all about if you enjoy being with someone?
If he can’t get over the idea of wanting someone to love him then yeah, obviously, he shouldn’t bother and Paulo’s wasting his breath and high blood pressure.
FVK March 20, 2014, 11:47 AM EST.
Paulo’s argument isn’t a very good one in my opinion. I mean, I wouldn’t want to be in a relationship with a person that loves someone else more than they love me. And it’d be worse if my partner was only with me because the chance of them going out with the person they love more is impossible basically. That’s just me though.
Gina March 20, 2014, 12:27 PM EST.
Daisy’s a decent person. She’s just very immature. Which is understandable, seeing as how she’s 14/15.
I put Paulo’s aggressive behaviour in this chapter down to misdirected grief, anger and frustration. He was never the most secure person to begin with, and the whole Lucy fiasco hit him harder than everybody except maybe mike. That’s not to excuse his behaviour, of course. Kid needs to take up a sport or something.
Zott March 20, 2014, 12:33 PM EST.
Ok to me Paulo took it to far when he said “Who wants to deal with hearing about your dead mom all day?” Like seriously…he deserves a punch to the face.
But other than that he has a point. ABBEY JUST SAY YES ALREADY!!
crazycrud March 20, 2014, 12:50 PM EST.
Whoa! Way to kick him verbally in the balls, Paulo. And to throw out my hope of staying neutral to all characters…
I don’t think Paulo understands how much he’s butting into their business but he’s making the situation worse. Especially with that “dead mom” part. That was extremely low…
He’s definitely guilt-tripping Abbey to get back with Daisy, and I honestly do not want to see them back together. Abbey doesn’t deserve to be treated like that, and if Daisy doesn’t say anything soon then she doesn’t deserve even his friendship. The past few pages all she has been doing is giving them the sad puppy look in the background and hasn’t even lifted a finger for herself, only allowing Paulo to do everything for her. She so desperately wants to be in a relationship with Abbey but doesn’t even consider that being friends with him is better than nothing?
You suck, Daisy, I never liked you anyway.
Let's Be Realistic March 20, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.
Oh my god PLEASE DAISY SAVE THE DAY DO SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING Like “Paulo stop, this is terrible” “If he doesn’t want, don’t push him” AVGCFVDGKEGCEK
Gasz March 20, 2014, 1:03 PM EST.
*Readies superman cape* Da DA DA DAAAA BUM BA DUMMMMM DUMMMMM DA DUMMMMMMM DA DAAAA. BUUMMMMP BUMMP DAAAAAAAA BUM DAAAA DAAAAA DAAAAAA BUMMMMP. DA DA DA DAAA!
@Jonas and @Samm-y
Come ON! We’ve been saying we’ll give Daisy another chance to stop Paulo as soon as he started this nonsense three pages ago! She STILL hasn’t tried to step up.
Considering it was her idea to get Paulo to help her in the first place, his actions are by extension her fault.
Daisy is actually that cowardly and terrible that she can’t think past her own desire for Paulo’s method to work to actually CARE about Abbey being in a dramatic emotional beatdown.
IS slapping Paulo to get him to stop really that tough of an option? I’d feel better if there were little bubbles where Daisy was TRYING to interrupt but not be successful. At least she would have been trying for Abbey.
What is the big deal with swear words being offensive? I could say any other word and make it just as nasty. Ever read Shakespeare? I’m not being civil towards Daisy or Paulo, but considering Paulo is swearing over dead mothers in the comic, I don’t think I’m really being that bad today. Comparatively I’m usually behaved when I banter.
Frankly this page hit a major sore spot with me. And that there are actually idiotic people that pretend(or worse, actually think ) that Paulo’s behavior is okay so long as Daisy ends up with Abbey at the end.
The idea that Paulo, or anyone for that matter should be encouraged to attack childhood trauma to get their selfish way in a situation just makes me want to vomit till my head disappears.
*Disclaimer: Do keep in mind that I did have surgery and have been on major pain medication since Monday. I might not be the best at censorship and considering reading is all my doctor will allow, I don’t particularly plan on stopping participating with BCB. It’s one of the few things I can do.
Lickit&stickit March 20, 2014, 1:06 PM EST.
SO MAKE OUT WITH HER
Spoder March 20, 2014, 2:02 PM EST.
Well. Paulo did just really really cross the line right here now. So that is why Daisy should be given the chance to tell Paulo off. She can easily do it. I provided link in my previous comment where she pretty much yells at Paulo and Paulo shuts up.
Not saying that I’m expecting Daisy to do the right thing since I believe that she believes Paulo is doing the right thing. There is a possibility that she will do it. But I think it is unlikely. What I meant when I said that I’m willing to give her a second chance I meant that IF she try’s to shut Paulo up then I can forgive her…. for all the minor stuff at least. But I don’t believe she will do it. She clearly believes Paulo is right.
Now. I have a theory. Paulo will probably be shut off (made to shut up) by someone. Not by Daisy or Abbey though. I think someone else will come in to shut him up.
Paulo will stare at Abbey with evil eyes, waiting for Abbey to make out with Daisy.
That is what I’m expecting
Jonas97face March 20, 2014, 2:23 PM EST.
this chapter just keeps going downhill. Are none of the other characters seriously not going to say anything? I can’t suspend my disbelief anymore. I hope Mike of all people is the one to take Paulo out into the hall to tell him off.
Another Anon March 20, 2014, 2:32 PM EST.
This is what we call a wall of text *waves at all of the comments*
Las Palomas March 20, 2014, 3:42 PM EST.
Someone needs to stand up against him…
naAr March 20, 2014, 3:46 PM EST.
So should Abbey forget that he is still, and probably forever will be, Daisy’s second best?
If you didn’t get the memo, then I’ll have to inform you that Abbey has a background that’s more than just a little bit bleak and jarred.
He is literally dealing with severe self-esteem issues over his mothers death.
That’s something that’ll NEVER go away.
Having that lingering feeling that the person you’re in relationship prefers someone else over you in the back of his health quite literally ruins his self-esteem from the inside out.
He is the type of person who’d need a simple & stable relationship, and he is also the type of person who’ll most likely only have very few, but also very close friends due to said mental issues.
Even the smallest betrayal can send him downward a spiral of depression and self-doubt, and so far Daisy’s ruined both the progress she’s helped him with, and that he has accomplished by himself.
So frankly, Daisy DESERVES a stern rejection by Abbey, purely because she couldn’t tell Paulo to shut up and go away.
Bastion March 20, 2014, 4:05 PM EST.
You know, people are saying that Paul used a low blow with the dead-mother comment, but if you think about it, Paulo of all people using that comment makes sense. He was obviously using it to show how much Daisy cared, to the point where she would let him air out all his personal pains in life. That is something that very few people would be comfortable to do for someone.
Using such an extreme example essentially makes it that much clearer how much Daisy treasures Abbey. Furthermore, because Paulo and Abbey aren’t friends to begin with, the dead-mother comment would probably hurt the least coming from Paulo yet it still makes Paulo’s point.
I also think that Abbey didn’t react to the comment because Paulo is actually doing this - actually trying to get the two back together despite it not helping Paulo himself in the least, because he actually sees that the two are happy together - DESPITE Paulo disliking Abbey. This one act from someone who probably comes off to a lot of people (Abbey included) in-universe as nothing but a selfish jerk probably threw him off considerably, which ironically made him more prone to actually listen to Paulo because he wasn’t expecting Paulo of all people to try to reunite them.
Abbey shouldn’t forget that originally he may have been “second best”, but he is still acting incredibly rash by assuming it will NEVER work, despite Daisy always being faithful to him and never even hinting that she would ever cheat on him. Heck, even her commentary while drunk came across more bitter than lovey-dovey towards Mike, as she was focusing her questions more on what made Mike love Lucy even though Lucy was abusive. She didn’t even try to hit on Mike and only hugged him because she realized even while drunk that Mike had a completely wrong view on how everyone else saw him. Hell, she even showed she cared more for Abbey than Mike when she saw Abbey taking a swig of alcohol and rushed to stop him, ignoring Mike despite him having a breakdown. This is while she was still drunk mind you.
Despite all that, and despite Daisy not once showing any hint of ever even wanting to cheat on Abbey, Abbey automatically assumed that a relationship couldn’t work out because of her drunken rant and the fact that she couldn’t outright say she loved him - even though Abbey should have known that Daisy, for all of her cheerfulness, has severe confidence issues and thus would probably be too afraid to say it anyways. Maybe Daisy’s resentment towards Mike/Lucy’s relationship did not help matters, but I think Abbey’s decision to break up was taking it too far himself.
Deiser March 20, 2014, 4:19 PM EST.
You gotta be fukken’ kidding me…
You are LITERALLY downplaying the severity of Abbey’s issues, and the negative impact of bot Daisy’s and Paulo’s actions.
On someone who made it clear that he would rather be left alone than suffer more mental harm.
Abbey’s at no fault here, he is downright protecting the shreds of self-esteem he has left, and if you consider that rash, then I hope you’ll NEVER be near someone with the same level of trauma as some as Abbey.
Because your view is both narrow-sighted, bigoted and foolish, AND also harmful to someone as vulnerable as Abbey.
Kindly go sodomize yourself with a cacti if you don’t respect those who hasn’t had a easy life.
Bastion March 20, 2014, 4:38 PM EST.
So it was not right of Abbey to break the relationship?
Daisy has shown signs that she would prefer Mike over him. ”It will never happen, but if he was available and would want me then I would definitely go for him”. She’s (Paulo doing most of the heavy lifting though) also trying to guilt trip back into relationship with her.
I don’t know. I think that Abbey was right to end the relationship (of course he was right to end the relationship).
She hasn’t really showed any signs of love after the break up. She just seems like she…. needs him. She wants a toy to play with and that toy is Abbey.
Jonas97face March 20, 2014, 4:51 PM EST.
Thank you for this awesome comment!
Tails March 20, 2014, 4:54 PM EST.
Tails you are an uniformed bigot on this issue.
That was NOT an awesome comment by @Deiser because it lacked all consideration of Abbey’s mental issues or feelings. I was going to let it slide, until you commented like you always do with your passive high-fives to anyone not dishing on your ship.
You obviously do not have the experience in this arena to even be respectful to such trauma victims if you think it is EVER appropriate to throw that information at them like a weapon for some petty reason like saving relationship.
Daisy is NOT a saint for “putting up” with a lover’s sadness over a dead mother. Because she CARED does not make her perfect, though it does show that she has sympathy for Abbey as a friend. Her silence now shows she doesn’t empathize with Abbey otherwise she’d be grossly offended at Paulo’s accusations.
And people like Paulo, no hardships or understanding on the matter, don’t get the right to shame those people for having intense coping over it.
Lost any respect I had for you tails. Hope you don’t ever lose your mother and have someone act like you are psychotic and pathetic for mourning her death.
Lickit&stickit March 20, 2014, 4:59 PM EST.
>_< seriously I just want to smack some of the people in the comment section , who in their right mind can seriously justify what Paulo is doing right now is right .
Abbey please if you have any self respect for yourself and for daisy. You won’t get back together with her
SeaRiver March 20, 2014, 5:00 PM EST.
First of all, i lost my respect for you already 2 pages ago, so i don´t care what you think about me.
Also, some of my best friends have similar issues (partly even worse) and even them said it was (at least partly) right of paulo when i showed it to them, so stop blind guessing of what i have expierience of and what not!
Tails March 20, 2014, 5:07 PM EST.
That’s good Tails. Because despite your self-righteousness you don’t have a shred of the respect for others that you’ve claimed with all your previous bull posts over being respectful to circumstance. I had previously thought you were capable of empathy. Especially for people with actual problems like Abbey.
Obviously, people that have experienced unpreventable hardship like Abbey, are all charity cases. Abbey should be so lucky that Daisy didn’t laugh at him like Paulo is now. Daisy’s ability to be a respectable person and rub his back when he was crying over his mother absolves her from all her other selfish actions in the relationship. She truly is a catch. Abbey seriously needs to latch on fast. Wouldn’t want to lose a girl incapable of understanding your feelings.
Hell this rids her of any blame for the fact that she hasn’t a shred of compassion to stop Paulo’s tirade when she knows what this issue does to Abbey’s esteem and emotional stability. She isn’t even a good friend at this point.
And no. Your friend’s experiences are not your own, and you obviously have no compassion or understanding of what it is like to experience anything like Abbey has.
Otherwise you wouldn’t be able to high-five other commenters praising Paulo for throwing a traumatic event he knows nothing about as a weapon to try to coerce a toxic relationship with ice-queen Daisy.
Lickit&stickit March 20, 2014, 5:13 PM EST.
How many times have you two ( @Tails and @Lickit) lost respect for each other. I swear I have seen you tell each other that before somewhere. I just can’t remember where and I certainly am not gonna look for them since they could be anywhere.
Jonas97face March 20, 2014, 5:18 PM EST.
I don’t like Tails anymore @jonas. I’ve only ever said this respect deal once.
Tails says it interchangeably because so long as I agree with them they think the sun shines out my ***. Otherwise, they’ve lost all respect for me.
I had previously thought, despite all ridiculous arguments, that Tails was capable of being empathetic to people with actual unpreventable trauma like poor Abbey. Frankly those people deserve it more than anyone else. Unfortunate to be wrong. With that said, this knowledge makes pretty much all their opinions sympathy garbage.
Lickit&stickit March 20, 2014, 5:23 PM EST.
Wow, people are seriously commending the use of the dead mother as good for Abbey to hear (one way or another)?
Abbey’s dad cheating on his mom started the series of events that lead to HIS MOM DYING BY HIS FATHER’S HAND. The fact that Daisy would leave him for Michael in a heart beat if Mike said yes probably brings all those feelings of pain and utter fear to the surface. Are very few of you guys really taking this into consideration when you say ‘yea Paulo, you tell him for not wanting to be with Daisy?’
Another Anon March 20, 2014, 5:36 PM EST.
Why don’t we just use an empathy test. If Paulo were to punch abbey for breaking up with daisy , is Paulo justified ? Answer yes or no and the reason why
SeaRiver March 20, 2014, 5:43 PM EST.
@SeaRiver No, because it has nothing to do with him. Just as none of my friends have a right to punch a girl for breaking up with me as it is none of their business.
Dean March 20, 2014, 5:56 PM EST.
Well aren’t you a despicable human being who’s incapable of providing any rational argument for your case.
I like how you literally dodge any arguments, and instead constantly go “yeah I agree with this comment”
It reeks of knowing you’re wrong, but being too stubborn to both admit and realize it.
You’re no longer the devils advocate, at his rate you might as well BE the devil.
Qualt March 20, 2014, 5:58 PM EST.
Tails is capable of being empathetic.
As long as it doesn’t involve those who actually deserve it.
Feisster March 20, 2014, 6:05 PM EST.
@SeaRiver NO he’s not because this is between Abbey and Daisy .
Paulo has nothing to do with it.
And I sincerely hope that Taeshi will not make AbbeyXDaisy canon in this chapter because the way they are trying to force him into this relationship is simply disgusting.
A guy March 20, 2014, 6:05 PM EST.
@ Tails paulo never really new his mother because she left when he was young. Paulos mom might as well be dead to. That’s probably why paulo was able to talk about it so easily. Abbey should be lucky and thankful that he had somebody there to listen. All paulo had to talk to was David.
Blue fox March 20, 2014, 6:16 PM EST.
Oh dear, quite some raging against Tails again, i see.
I’m not really one to talk, because i don’t care enough to read all comments, but this way he just seems like a really bad person.
Blackthifer March 20, 2014, 6:17 PM EST.
I don’t know if anyone’s already said this (there’s so many comments I truly don’t know how s0me of you have the patience to read them all) but I’m wondering if Paulo helping Daisy has anything at all to do with the fact that, by holding back, he lost his ‘chance’ with Lucy. He doesn’t want to see them waste their opportunity to be happy, because he feels like that’s what he did with Lucy. Another guess (though I’m almost definitely sure this is wrong) is that he feels empathy for Abbey, in that Abbey is almost secondary to Daisy’s feelings for Mike while he was secondary to Lucy because of Mike.
Or I could just be completely wrong and this could be totally driven by him caring about Daisy. I’m not saying it’s not any combination of these, but he seems to be acting a bit more frustrated than you would expect of someone in his place.
(Why am I examining the relationships of fictional cats on an internet webcomic when I have work to do)
(I think I have a problem)
(But thank you for this amazing webcomic as always Taeshi! The updates are what motivate me to wake up on update days.)
Prism March 20, 2014, 6:19 PM EST.
@dean - I really enjoy your comments,
You’re very level headed!
Kay March 20, 2014, 6:23 PM EST.
I am at a loss at why Daisy needs my empathy in this situation. She doesn’t have any real problems like Abbey getting emotionally terrorized by his selfish ex and classmate.
Am I to feel sorry for her because she can’t keep a boyfriend? Or because she won’ t accept that now both Mike and Abbey do not want to date her because of her forceful insistence that they be with her?
Mike never liked her, while with Abbey, Daisy doesn’t WANT to let go of Mike to even attempt to love Abbey like he needs to continue a relationship.
With Paulo’s encouragement, Daisy actually thinks she’s entitled to Abbey’s affection and that it’s a crime for him to expect her to have feelings for him to continue a romantic relationship.
Lickit&stickit March 20, 2014, 6:28 PM EST.
In that case, Paulo should’ve KNOWN that bringing up Abbey’s dead mother is a VERY BIG no-no, no matter he situation or circumstances.
But since he did, then this just screams of Paulo using this situation for unloading his blind hatred for Abbey out in public.
That’ll BETTER bite Paulo’s *** HARD before this chapter is over, And hopefully someone also metaphorically ****-punts Daisy so hard, she’ll think she’s just as despicable and useless as she’s been handling all this, and on a equal level as Paulo’s description of Abbey.
Akave March 20, 2014, 6:33 PM EST.
@ Akave paulos middle name is subtle. And Daisy…..yea **** - punt!
Blue fox March 20, 2014, 7:10 PM EST.
Whoa there bringing the dead mom in
Aloevera March 20, 2014, 7:14 PM EST.
Paulo playing the “dead family member” card.
Always a classic.
WellAlright March 20, 2014, 7:16 PM EST.
Hello. My name is Las Palomas (no ****.) May I just say…*cough-cough*… WTF PAULO!! THE LAST THING THAT ANYONE SHOULD BRING UP IS DEAD FAMILY MEMBERS! IT. SUCKS.
Las Palomas March 20, 2014, 9:20 PM EST.
Paulo ships them so hard.
Anon-S March 20, 2014, 10:25 PM EST.
@Kay Thank you I sometimes worry I come across as just a ranting loon when I comment
Dean March 20, 2014, 10:25 PM EST.
Since when was I downplaying Abbey’s mental issues? I said that Paulo’s comment would hurt the least coming from Paulo, because they were not friends to begin with. I think that it was still too much, yes. However, what has said has already been said, so I was analyzing it in the context of the situation: Of anyone to possibly say the comment, it makes the most sense (but still just as uncalled for) that Paulo said it.
If someone you disliked made a harsh comment to you, you’d probably not get as offended by it because you don’t value what they say as you would if a friend said the same comment, because you trust a friend more than someone you dislike. Paulo’s comment may have been too much, but keep in mind that Abbey probably didn’t tell everyone about the actual situation behind his mother’s death (at least, it seems to be implied that Daisy is the only other classmate who knows the actual situation), so Paulo probably was making a dig at his mother simply dying and being adopted. It doesn’t make the comment any more justified, but nowhere near as malicious in intent as people make it out to be.
Furthermore, I never said I couldn’t understand why Abbey made the decisions he did. I can completely see why he was scared about the relationship, but just because the logic behind the decision is understandable doesn’t mean that the decision itself can not be a rash decision.
Also, just because I’m not pouring my heart out about my personal life in a comment doesn’t mean that I’ve had an easy or perfect life. Everyone has to go through hardships in their lives, so it’s rather silly to assume that I had an “easy” life because of commentary on a comic book page. I admit that my mother wasn’t murdered by my dad, or that my dad blamed me for “ruining” the family afterwards, but what gives you the right to claim I had an easy or hard life when you don’t even know me? You claim I was being bigoted, yet you’re the one claiming that I look down on people with “hard lives” just because I am looking at this page differently than you are. You are looking down on me for having a different opinion and observation than you, not vice-versa.
Furthermore, I’m not sure why you’re getting all righteous and indignant just because you disagree with me, going as far as personally insulting me for a comment I’m making about a comic. Why don’t you calm down and think things through instead of insulting someone who disagrees with you? Maybe if you properly read what I wrote, you’ll notice at no point did I try to downplay Abbey’s mental trauma, and was pointing out that, regardless of logic used, he did break up a year-long relationship because of a single drunken rant and the reluctance of a highly-underconfident girl to admit she loved him. THAT I find was rash; maybe it made sense why he chose to do that, but it was still, in my personal opinion, a bit too extreme a thing to do especially when he refused to even talk to her about the drunken comments until he broke up with her.
I would certainly have agreed that it was the right thing to do if he had actually taken the time to discuss what had happened with Daisy and considered other options. Instead, he refused to talk to Daisy between the party and the breakup and after telling her, broke up with her when she was too afraid to admit she loved him. While I understand the rationale behind his decision, it was still a very rash decision given that in the year they went out, she showed absolutely no signs of ever betraying him, regardless of if Mike had a girlfriend. He also had rather selective memory given how he did not remember how she rushed to his side and ditched Mike the moment he took a swig of booze, which clearly showed she cared for him even more than Mike.
Also, there’s no place where Daisy blatantly said that she’d go back to Mike if he had no girlfriend. The little hesitation from the previous page could have easily meant (and is how I interpreted it as) that there wasn’t even any possibility of Mike even being available to being with to “test” Daisy’s loyalty, not that she was admitting she’d jump in Mike’s arms in a heartbeat if she could.
Would a breakup be the right decision overall? I honestly am not sure myself as I can see your reasoning behind why it would be a good idea overall, but I can also see the two of them working well as a couple. However, I believe that Abbey did make this particular decision way too quickly, for reasons that really weren’t anywhere near as founded as he made them out to be.
Hope that clarifies my stance on the matter.
Edit: Also, looking back at my previous comment, I can see how people may have read it as me approving of him using that comment to begin with. For that I apologize.
Deiser March 20, 2014, 10:39 PM EST.
Did you know they are making a “Love Guru 2” movie?
It stars Paulo being the ultimate shipper, captain of all ships.
Sorry nepeta, your crown has been stolen by another cat.
Zach March 20, 2014, 10:59 PM EST.
“she showed absolutely no signs of ever betraying him, regardless of if Mike had a girlfriend.”
Despite her actions at the party which caused the breakup in the first place. Where she revealed that she very much was not over Mike. And that she still had a bone to pick with him over rejecting her. It’s been an entire year and she’s STILL on about this. Appearently Mike not liking her is not reason enough. Abbey was concerned about it, brought it up, and she didn’t deny it. She is guilty of haboring stronger feelings for Mike, and Abbey felt like this was an issue to be resolved after a year otherwise he clearly couldn’t continue doing it and getting more involved.
Given that Daisy was starting to push for a physical relationship, this is a very healthy decision for him if he needs mutual love in an emotional and physical relationship. He is not wrong to want this, despite idiotic comments claiming otherwise. Just as Daisy is allowed to want her physical non-love deal. But only with someone who consents for that kind of relationship. Like Paulo and Rachel.
“He also had rather selective memory given how he did not remember how she rushed to his side and ditched Mike the moment he took a swig of booze, which clearly showed she cared for him even more than Mike.”
Because clearly the fact that she ran over to him shows that she cares about his past. Oh wait, but then, wouldn’t that mean she’d rush to his side now if she actually cared about him and his past? I mean she’s sure sober now! She was just being an ADD drunk. Haven’t you ever seen a drunk person who does this? She certainly didn’t notice Abbey’s immediate discomfort nor did she ever apologize for the incident afterwards (drunk or sober). She merely said, “I was drunk, and don’t remember. Thus you can’t blame me for this!!!”
Good luck getting that kind of albi to hold up in court.
“Also, there’s no place where Daisy blatantly said that she’d go back to Mike if he had no girlfriend. ”
She certainly has never DENIED this claim, considering it has come up nearly three times. She’s merely enforced that it wouldn’t work because of Mike’s feelings. Clearly if it were up to her decision alone, she’d leave Abbey in a heartbeat. Which is why she never bothers to deny this.
I don’t see his decision as rash at all. And given the current circumstances, Daisy’s cowardly choice to involve Paulo, and currently coering past wounds to make Abbey look SO unlovable that Daisy is a miracle to put up with him.
Also this is why @Bastion said you didn’t have respect for trauma victims. Because this is exactly what Paulo is saying. And if you pretend like this is an okay subject to comment on, in such a manipulative manner, you clearly have no understanding about the victims of even about basic social interaction courtesy.
Abbey made the right choice. Daisy doesn’t even care about him enough to call off Paulo. And frankly, Daisy’s the only one who can call him off.
Lickit&stickit March 20, 2014, 11:31 PM EST.
This is ridiculous. Shut up, paulo, good lord. If she has such strong feelings for mike STILL, then they shouldn’t be together. It’s not Paulo’s place to force abbey to comply, either. I wouldn’t want to be with someone who was always thinking of someone else either, I’d feel like a ****in consolation prize. Sometimes people break up. Its not the end of the world. Daisy has a problem with letting people go (she was even jealous of lucy for talking to AUGUSTUS. OF ALL PEOPLE FOR HER TO BE JEALOUS ABOUT), and she really needs to grow up before having a serious relationship.
Also, I feel like this whole chapter has been ridiculously preachy about just having fun in relationships and not worrying too much if the person is devoted to you or is in love with you. Yes, daisy and abbey will probably not get married. YES, they are understandably young, and arguably too young to know for sure if they love each other (that’s relative of course). But is it so much to ask for somebody to care more about the person they’re actually IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH than some unattainable person who has already rejected them?
peculi March 21, 2014, 12:14 AM EST.
I already apologized for my first comment. I had badly worded it so it came off as if I approved of Paulo mentioning Abbey’s dead mother, and had edited my second post to reflect that apology when I re-read my first post. I also did say that Abbey’s actions were understandable, but even if the logic was understandable, I still saw the action itself as rash because. As I pointed out, Daisy’s actions at the party didn’t even come off as hitting on Mike to begin with to me, but rather her expressing her bitterness over Lucy being chosen over her. I saw it as her being bitter about past actions (and I know a few people who, when drunk, do get bitter and harp on about past experiences), and not at all as her hitting on Mike. She could have done that any time after getting drunk, but only hugged and talked to Mike after he claimed no one cared for him even as friends.
I’d appreciate if you didn’t act like I am callous towards trauma victims, especially when I’ve clarified one point and apologized for another which I had badly worded.
Deiser March 21, 2014, 12:37 AM EST.
You know, I like how the previous comic ended without actually answering Abbey’s assertion. I didn’t miss it. The fact that Paolo decided to be a loudmouth at the last second doesn’t really change the fact that if Michael wasn’t dating Sandy, Daisy would still be considering a possibility with him, and Abbey would still be second fiddle. If Michael expressed interest in Daisy, she would leave Abbey to pursue it. That is a serious problem, and Abbey is right to be concerned about it. He got out of the relationship, and in my opinion, he should stay out and find someone who isn’t still pining for someone else.
Her statement is that Abraham is not to be worried because Michael is taken and doesn’t like Daisy that way. Except that just makes it sound exactly like what Abbey is worried about - that she’s dating him because she can’t have Mike. That is not okay. The issue with that is quite simple: if Michael DID express interest in Daisy, she would drop Abraham in a heartbeat. If Michael suddenly became single, Daisy would try to find some way to attract Michael’s interest.
If she were handling this correctly, she would tell Abbey that she wants to be with him regardless of what happens to Mike - namely, that whether Mike expressed interest in her or not, she turn him down because she wants to be with Abbey. Or if Michael were single or not, she would not try to attract Michael’s attention because Abbey was more important to her than Mike any day of the week. That’s what she should say. That she isn’t saying that only proves her lack of resolve on this issue, and that she still likes Mike more than she likes Abbey.
And if she likes Mike more than she likes Abbey, THEN SHE AND ABBEY SHOULDN’T BE DATING IN THE FIRST PLACE. It is literally that god-damn simple.
ThirteenDarkDoves March 21, 2014, 12:38 AM EST.
This second post was once again very well done and explains your point of view even better than the first one
This is an interesting point that you have raised. From Paulos view, who never really had a mother( because his mother never really gave a **** about them and selflishly dumped his father (and in extention him too) for another guy and they never have heard of her again, which clearly has hit the father very hard and in turn also had a big impact on Paulo over the years), Abbey really must seem to be a crybaby to paulo when he compares Abbeys situation to his own.
And that combined with him really careing for daisy and his recent expieriences of the last several years (His chances of being in a good and happy relationship were always ruined by not taking an opportunity out of self-inserted fear of eventualities of bad outcomes in one way or another - His possible relationship with tess was not a thing because of her fear of him possibly getting hurt later and he never took one of the opportunities to confess his real feelings to lucy because of his own fear of possible rejection because of her having fellings for mike and when he finally wanted to confess it was already too late and she was gone) suggests to him that it is stupid to don´t take the chance for being happy in the now because of the fear of possible bad outcomes later.
Tails March 21, 2014, 1:09 AM EST.
@ ThirteenDarkDoves… BROTHER/SISTER! Nope, lol, jk. I agree with you, Daisy should be saying something and Paulo needs to minimize his face
Las Palomas March 21, 2014, 1:10 AM EST.
@Tails, wait, where’d that info about Paulo’s mum come from?
I get the intention, but damn. You don’t throw out the “dead mom” card in a derisive manner. Ever.
Gryph March 21, 2014, 2:58 AM EST.
My goodness Paulo I don’t know whether to laugh or be upset with you but at least you’re trying to help Daisy…in your weird…slightly twisted manner…
Knuc March 21, 2014, 3:00 AM EST.
Seriously in love with that last panel though I must say
Knuc March 21, 2014, 3:01 AM EST.
From what i’ve seen in the comments of Deiser, and your reaction on it, it is clear that you and him interpreted the different events in the comic different from each other. As such, it is normal that you both have a different view on whether or not Abbey is being rash, or whether Daisy deserves Abbey/Abbey deserves Daisy.
The point being, you both have fairly good arguments, some of which requiring deeper logic, and social thinking about characters in this comic, which would be heavily influenced by the way you have interpreted the past events.
Concluding, you both are quite right in your own way.
(Oh and Lickit, attacking someone personally doesn’t really discredit their arguments, you know. It’s only another opinion from yourself.)
Blackthifer March 21, 2014, 4:04 AM EST.
You know that when I said ”It will never happen, but if he was available and would want me then I would definitely go for him” I was referring to last page, not before Abbey broke up with Daisy? Right? Guess not. That is what I was referring to if you didn’t understand me. If you did understand then I think your reply was invalid. Not trying to start an argument though. Although I’m sure your not a guy who likes to argue. Am I right?
I’m on @Lickit’s side when he replied to you except the insulting thing from @Bastion. There is no need for insults. I’ve never been very much for insulting other real life human beings. That is why I often don’t like comments from Bastion since he intends to insult people from time to time. I don’t like it when other people get hurt.
Jonas97face March 21, 2014, 4:15 AM EST.
Didn’t want to edit so I just made a new comment.
When I was replying first to you I was trying to base everything after the break up, while you were basing yours before the break up. Quiet different things right? That is at least what I read from your reply. You talked about the party while I talked about last page.
I still understand your view of things and I respect it. I actually agree with some of it. I myself have tried view it as you have (I really have), but I always fail to since I just see what Paulo and Daisy are doing is wrong. They really aren’t respecting Abbeys feelings here. Trying to guilt trip him back into a relationship. That is what I see.
Your comments are rather interesting.
Jonas97face March 21, 2014, 4:20 AM EST.
these cats are ****ing teenagers and weve all said insensitive things once in our lives before so you know what
like okay paulo does it constantly and i never liked him to begin with because i thought he was annoying and i knew hed do something like this, but daisy should really just get some stern disapproval/lecture and thats it
i dont think she deserves hate of all hate because judging from her actions she doesnt even realize shes doing something so hurtful most of the time, and she’s pretty mood swingy. but daisy’s good at being there for abbey about his mother related thing and i’ve been in enough relationship related **** to know that finding someone that even just shows compassion and patience is something that’s rare to find, much less the kind that that person needs, which believe it or not, matters and is very different according to person. but we can’t forget that abbey’s really not feeling good right now either, i mean he really loved her, the breakup hurt him too, and boys who cover up their feelings more tend to be more sensitive. paulo’s even worse than daisy in not being compassionate plus he’s kind of. hard to feel bad for to be honest
i think that with enough time, and maybe if they do get back together after a while after they both heal, abbey can be more stern with daisy and maybe she’d learn that the people that love you are the ones that tell you when you’re doing something wrong. not like people who don’t don’t love each other, but i feel like a big part of what threw them apart was that daisy never knew how hurtful her actions were. maybe abbey could help, but im not sure if he’s even aware or if he’s mistaking it for cute/aloofness.
or, you know. someone else
Pirari March 21, 2014, 5:54 AM EST.
whew took me an hour but all caught up on comments.
@Dean, I 100% agree with you that Paulo needs a “reasons you suck speech”. I think @A. Nonymous pointed out that Jassmin, Sue, and Diasy have had moments of calling him out for his behavior but clearly these moments have not stuck. So maybe one more time all the reason combined as well as reason he sucks that others have not had the chance to get to. And may I recomend Tess or Rachelle to be the ones to deliver said message as they seem to be the only ones that can say anything to Paulo so that the information sticks.
@Another Anon, I to am also curiose as to why Mike of all people has not stepped in and shut Paulo down. This bullying behavior is similar to how everyone pushed him and Lucy together and we all know how that ended. With Lucy changing schools.
@Prism had a really interesting theory, and it was one I never thought of until he/she (sorry not certain of your gender) pointed it out. What if it is Abbey that Paulo is empathizing with and not Daisy. I wouldn’t have believed it until I read the reasoning and just damn…. I was blown away by the brillant logic of it. But much like Prism I doubt that is the case as Paulo depth isn’t that deep. Ever heard of the phrase right message but wrong messenger? Paulo as he is now is clearly the wrong messenger, but how affective would it have been to had a very low key moment where he pulls Abbey aside and explains his Lucy situation. About how he was always second best to Mike; but now that she is gone he lost his chance forever. It may have given Abbey a moment to pause and think. But no Paulo is only capable of yelling and being an idoit about other peoples feelings. Sigh.
Not that I think Abbey has not already thought over his reasons for the break up. Time has moved on since Rachelle’s winter birthday and now it is spring. I feel for the guy and strongly believe a break from dating each other is exactly what they need at the moment. They can date each other again after some time has passed and they have had time to heal and grown a little from their own experiences. Abbey go on, join Jassmin in her drama free school year she seems to be doing well from it.
?!? March 21, 2014, 7:45 AM EST.
Holy cow, does this community like ANY of the main characters?
All I can read here is “X is the worst character and deserves to die” over and over again.
That guy over there March 21, 2014, 7:52 AM EST.
@ Tails that makes since to me seeing as how I think paulo is jealous of what Daisy and abbey had. Paulo dose not handle rejection well.
Blue fox March 21, 2014, 8:25 AM EST.
I will probably end up getting flamed for this, but the amount of people that are getting upset over the dead mom comment make me laugh.
Have none of you said something shocking just to get a point through the thick skull of a stubborn person? I don’t believe that Paulo went overboard. I think he said just enough to make Abby think about what his point is.
Now that being said. I really hope that they don’t get back together. I cannot stand Daisy, and I think if she really wanted to get back with Abby she should be doing this herself.
Daisy need’s to grow up and earn her big girl panties. Letting Paulo do her dirty work is not growing up. Daisy is to much of a weak little princess to ever say all this stuff to Abby.
Oh, and before all of the “How would you know..” flames start. I have been in Abby’s shoes. I have gotten a similar speech only is my father who is dead and not my mom..and it was about a guy and not a girl.
Anyway, that just my 2 cents worth on this page.
*pulls out a bag of marshmallows and a stick and waits for the flames to start.*
Nightcrystal March 21, 2014, 8:59 AM EST.
I’m not understanding you. You say it’s alright that Paulo is trying to guilt trip Abbey back into relationship with Daisy but Daisy should not get back with Abbey? Not quiet understanding you.
Do you think that Abbey is at wrong here but he should still not get back with Daisy?
I’m totally not understanding you
Jonas97face March 21, 2014, 9:10 AM EST.
Hey guys, I just thought of something. This might be random but, in the chapter when they went on vacation with Tess, Chris (if that’s his name, the guy who was obsessed with bands and stuff) said that he would be there if anything happened to Lucy. Something DID happen. So will we be seeing him again!?
Speed of sound March 21, 2014, 9:16 AM EST.
On the first panel Paulo definitely needs some earrings to finish his look.
Though they wouldn’t be visible on that panel anyway. Oh well.
Nikary March 21, 2014, 9:39 AM EST.
What I was getting at was that I understand that Paulo is trying to help a friend the only way he knows how. He’s isn’t great with words of kindness, and tact has never been his strong suit. I don’t see it as a guilt trip as more of smack up side the head, you know one of those. “Jeeze dude, open your eyes.” kind of things.
No, I don’t think they should get back together. Daisy needs to grow up a little more and think about what she really wants. At the very least, Abby and Daisy need to take this time to really talk to each other about what happened and what they want from this relationship.
Nightcrystal March 21, 2014, 9:58 AM EST.
” I don’t see it as a guilt trip as more of smack up side the head, you know one of those. “Jeeze dude, open your eyes.” kind of things.”
I hope you’ll NEVER be around someone with childhood trauma if you don’t consider that pathetic and low-blow guilt tripping.
Because that can do SERIOUS damage to someone with a ruined childhood and low self-esteem
Krontem March 21, 2014, 10:52 AM EST.
Maybe Veronica should block the comment section…
Gasz March 21, 2014, 10:58 AM EST.
” I also did say that Abbey’s actions were understandable, but even if the logic was understandable, I still saw the action itself as rash”
“I’d appreciate if you didn’t act like I am callous towards trauma victims, especially when I’ve clarified one point and apologized for another which I had badly worded.”
You’re STILL now factoring in Abbey’s low self esteem which he took desperate actions to preserve by breaking up.
That’s why you’re still being called out on it.
Rilfer March 21, 2014, 11:00 AM EST.
Well. This has been interesting. What will happen next? Will someone stop Paulo? Will Paulo be allowed to continue? Will Abbey give in or will he defend himself? What will happen next? We will have to see
Looking really forward for the next page upload. This is so exciting
Jonas97face March 21, 2014, 11:16 AM EST.
Why is the next page in 2617 hours? That’s about 109 days… Did I miss something?
lolwut March 21, 2014, 11:37 AM EST.
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