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Souppy is back home and is recovering quite well! Thanks so all the well-wishes from you guys ;_;
FIRST… uh well the feels and dahell dave?
stanley February 19, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.
Soooo cute xD Paulo ur adorable!
Piggy February 19, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.
Dave, I feel like you exist solely to point out Paulo’s hypocrisy. I love you.
SkullJester February 19, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.
Eko February 19, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.
Double standards much? xD
ABwingz February 19, 2014, 1:01 PM EST.
DAVID, GET OUT.
You are ruining Paulo’s attempts to cheer Daisy up.
Moogle February 19, 2014, 1:02 PM EST.
Gosh, Paulo has a point, but gosh can he contradict it. I’m starting to like him less and less.
Ry February 19, 2014, 1:02 PM EST.
Paulo seems to think relationships are just for having fun, except when it’s about his relationship…
__noname__ February 19, 2014, 1:02 PM EST.
Lol David. He actually understood what was going on. Creepy
Jonas97face February 19, 2014, 1:02 PM EST.
I know I can’t expect every single detail to be perfect but Paulo’s mouth in panel 2 looks plain weird.
On a side note, David is so great
Somewhat February 19, 2014, 1:02 PM EST.
Oh really Paulo? How is that different? Idiot… >:/
Jayden February 19, 2014, 1:03 PM EST.
You know, David has a point.
Look at what Daisy said. She said she “loved dating Abbey”, meaning she loved the whole relationship thing, not him. Why be in a relationship with someone if you don’t have true feelings for them?
I think Daisy likes the idea of relationships, but isn’t ready to have deep feelings with someone…
AngryBunny February 19, 2014, 1:03 PM EST.
Thank you David for being around and proving Paulo has no right to talk about love and marraige.
Lilmont February 19, 2014, 1:06 PM EST.
Lol David. Poor daisy though! I really liked DaisyXAbby!
Also hope you get better quickly, souppy!!!
Happylilwhale February 19, 2014, 1:07 PM EST.
I ****ING CALLED IT!
Funny that David is the one that points it out!
Tails February 19, 2014, 1:08 PM EST.
I like how here, David is the voice of reason
Mightyena February 19, 2014, 1:08 PM EST.
Although I understand it might be asking for a lot for wanting Daisy to love him he clearly loves her. Isn’t it unfair for him to sit there yearning for her to love him and getting more and more involved? The more he dates her the more he falls in love, he’s doing himself and her a favor. Its better to break things off now.
Kitmit February 19, 2014, 1:10 PM EST.
to quote.. bb king ” let the good times roll” i want to see how well the fan dom takes this, pulls up a chair and some popcorn “this gonn be gud” : D
SeaRiver February 19, 2014, 1:12 PM EST.
It different he tells you
TheGentleman February 19, 2014, 1:17 PM EST.
All of this love strife, seriously, David is hitting the nail on the head here. How can Daisy be in a relationship with someone if she can’t love the one person in that relationship? She loved to date and that is fine, but its important to know that taking a step further takes significant confirmation of love and if she can’t be able to have that kind of love then she’s out of luck.
Paulo is right about them being kids, meaning that they are too young and/or immature to uphold a legitimate relationship (at least for long). I just hope they can be able to work this out for the better.
Keyblade Dragon February 19, 2014, 1:19 PM EST.
First off, glad Souppy is doing well. Secondly, David is far more insightful than people give him credit for.
some guy February 19, 2014, 1:25 PM EST.
Wowzers Paulo. I can’t see how you wanting to marry Lucy is different x’D Well take it easy Daisy!
Shika February 19, 2014, 1:26 PM EST.
excellent point paulo, another excellent point david, not-so excellent comeback paulo
Vega February 19, 2014, 1:27 PM EST.
Yeah, like night and day, Paulo :V
Laufente February 19, 2014, 1:36 PM EST.
Ohohoho, Daisy’s love for being in love is finally being addressed.
But the fact they all look like they’re 6 years younger than their actual age hasn’t.
Presto February 19, 2014, 1:37 PM EST.
The more I see of David the more I’m convinced he’s a gadfly-type character who just says things to see how people will react.
Which doesn’t mean he’s wrong, necessarily. He’s got some good insights on this page! But it might explain some of his weirder behavior, too.
Petra February 19, 2014, 1:44 PM EST.
I think Paulo has a point, but I also think he’s being hypocritical by dismissing Abbeys feelings of love while claiming his feelings of love for Lucy are “different”.
Daisy certainly cares a lot about Abbey, but if she doesn’t love him it will hurt Abbey less in the long run to end it now before he falls even deeper.
I have to commend Daisy though, because she has supported him, and she has also never lied about her feelings to him.
My main hope now is that the two can be friends. I loved them as a couple and I hope they can remain good friends
Kay February 19, 2014, 1:47 PM EST.
In all his hypocracy, Paulo has a valid point. I’ve been saying the same thing for a while. It could all be an exersise in futility.
MobileCrusader February 19, 2014, 1:48 PM EST.
Bit of a hypocrite are we Paulo?
And David once again shows us he’s more insightful and clever then he lets on.
DeathofInk February 19, 2014, 1:53 PM EST.
It feels odd to have Paulo come so close to my own views on this. Otherwise, his hypocrisy on the matter isn’t any surprise.
I’m more interested in how Paulo’s going to confront Abbey after all of this, if at all. Probably Daisy’ll tell him to leave it.
(Here’s a hint Paulo, one time only. Go tell Augustus. And all will be well.)
…or entertaining at least
Derrick February 19, 2014, 1:57 PM EST.
All these kids need to chill and get some “Cool-Off-Aid.”
I hear a section of readers preaching on panel 7 through Paulo that sums up as, “We’re kids, we’re just having fun, and not doing anything serious.”
Which the opposition will rail, “Love is serious business, people shoot themselves all the time in the head for immaterial things, like emotions.”
Eh, whatever. People need to get on a mutual level, but it often seems it’s one person that wants to just have sex and the other one who wants dedication. So you get all this tension that’s just a massive “ehhhhh, I’ll go look something fun up on the net or post my profile on a dating service to find that sweetheart.”
I like how Paulo says him wanting to marry Lucy is different from Daisy wanting to pretty much get laid by Mike, but still dating Abbey as a holdover for her self-centered feelings. Subjective much? Most likely, love is one of the many mysteries even science cannot explain.
Edit: Sorry, but I had to edit. Going back over my post, I saw so many spelling errors that I couldn’t restrain the strong urge to edit them. ALL CONTENT IS STILL ORIGINAL THOUGH.
Blank On Purpose February 19, 2014, 2:01 PM EST.
Rydux February 19, 2014, 2:05 PM EST.
dog February 19, 2014, 2:08 PM EST.
Right on! Abbey really isn’t asking much, and removing himself from the scenario is good for him if he does want to be in a committed relationship someday. He saw himself as being the one invested in someone that could really care less about him as a person.
He’s setting himself up for a real relationship. It shows a lot of maturity to know what you want and actually act on those feelings so young.
@Blank On Purpose
Honestly, I applaud anyone who at least knows and communicates what they want when they date and handle another’s romantic feelings.
Daisy’s just in love with the idea of love, but she wants Mike. Too damn bad girl, stop leading people on who do love you in the mean time.
Meanwhile, Paulo, DAISY made Abbey feel even worse right? Who knows what manic depressive thing he’s doing to cope right now knowing his girlfriend doesn’t actually like him in a romantic sense. I know Daisy is sitting there all crying, but at least realize this problem she’s having over Mike is her fault. She’s only bawling cause she hates being single.
Yeah Paulo is a hypocrite here. Abbey loves Daisy in the near same way he loves Lucy.
Lickit&stickit February 19, 2014, 2:10 PM EST.
I guess it’s because…
okay hahaha I have no way to defend Paulo.
Sorry bro, you’re on you’re own here.
Get Well Soon February 19, 2014, 2:12 PM EST.
Paulo has been so hypocritical this whole time it’s like a whole new immaturity level. Bah.
123whee February 19, 2014, 2:14 PM EST.
Heck you can tell we’re kids because we SUCK at giving advice!
Huh? February 19, 2014, 2:18 PM EST.
With all this Paulo hate I think I might have to take up a defense for him. Is he being hypocritical? Maybe. However, he’s liked Lucy for a long time, even while in other relationships. Lucy even liked him back, even if it might have only been when they were kids. And then there’s the fact that Paulo HAS been in a few relationships of different varieties. Honestly, he has more experience in the relationship department than Daisy does, therefore he knows what a relationship should or should not be like. So he has a legitimate point here — Abbey and Daisy are just kids. Love takes a while to develop and it takes a lot of understanding, and kids and teenagers aren’t always mentally mature enough to fully understand what love is and what a relationship is supposed to be like — especially not when you’re in your first relationship.
Craythey February 19, 2014, 2:18 PM EST.
…and people LIKE this worthless little *******.
should i go into another rant about every single bad trait of paulo’s?
well, i would… but i don’t feel like writing a goddamn book right now.
paulo has NOTHING redeeming about him… it’s a mystery why so many people are in love with paulo.
would people really want a boyfriend like paulo in real life?
cheating on you, lying to you, not really caring about you, and generally being disloyal and worthless in every way?
Craythey, for defending paulo, you have proven you are just as bad a person as he is.
would you protect murderers and rapists, as well?
you might as well, if you defend paulo.
Thanatos February 19, 2014, 2:23 PM EST.
Whaddya mean, “Askin’ too much” ? You either love him or you don’t. There is no equilibrium. Lying to yourself only deepens the wound for your partner
And before you guys shoot me down for saying this, Paulo is not being a hypocrite. He was fully aware of Lucy’s co-dependent nature and schizophrenia. As such, he knew affiliating himself with Lucy would keep her mentality in check.
Daisy on the other hand, is just fixated on her first crush. Daisy needs to learn that her first love doesn’t have to be her only one. Abraham, literally didn’t want too much. Just a faithful girlfriend who’d be there for him
Osiris February 19, 2014, 2:31 PM EST.
@SkullJester lol yup, same
WeirdGreenSpider February 19, 2014, 2:31 PM EST.
What The Hell Thanatos ?
A guy February 19, 2014, 2:31 PM EST.
And David is as insightful as always, which is more than you would think. I have to agree that Paulo might be a little hypocritical here. But his relationship with Lucy wasn’t really tested much. We all like Paulo because when it really comes down to it, he’s a loyal friend. He may just be saying all of that to make Daisy feel better. But really, I don’t think Abbey is asking for much at all. Is it too much to ask the girl you are dating with and in love with to love you back when you have been together for a year? No, I think not. If Daisy truly can’t see a reason to love him personally, maybe he’s not the right one for her, no matter how perfect they seem together.
Crystalzoner February 19, 2014, 2:33 PM EST.
Oh Paulo… with you it’s always “different” isn’t it?
Claude February 19, 2014, 2:34 PM EST.
No its not Paulo.
SnowyPaint February 19, 2014, 2:44 PM EST.
I absolutely forgot to wish luck to Souppy. So I wish him a great recovery.
Also, on topic, nice page, as always
TheJokeYourHead February 19, 2014, 2:47 PM EST.
David the relationship master!
Anon-Anon February 19, 2014, 2:51 PM EST.
I actually can see the difference between Daisy’s situation and Paulo’s situations. Paulo said he WOULD marry Lucy. He did not say he WILL marry Lucy. He knows he loves her and says he would marry her. This does not mean he EXPECTS to marry Lucy. He does not expect Lucy to want to marry him. He merely said he would. Loving someone and saying you would marry them is different than loving someone then EXPECTING them to love you back and marry you and for a relationship to last forever. Everyone is bashing on Paulo, however no one seems to realize that he isn’t expect anything of Lucy in their future. At this point he’s just hoping she’ll come back and trying to make it until then. At least this is my view on it, unless someone wants to tell me a page where he said “I WILL marry Lucy and she WILL love me and have my babies!!”
Also, about Abby… Abby is expecting for Daisy to be in love with him, and while it’s not a great idea to be in a relationship with someone you don’t have feelings for, Paulo is right. They are kids. I’ve known so many people who dated someone they didn’t like just for fun, free dinners, because they were cute or because it would “totally make them more popular”…there are also the people who are trying to move on from previous relationships because that’s how they know how to do it. Also it’s experimenting. Even adults date people they find out they don’t like.
And honestly it’s not that Daisy doesn’t have feelings for Abby…just it’s not love, at least she doesn’t know if it is. She likes him…A LOT. Hell she was considering getting protection for them “just in case”…I’d say she’s got quite the pull to Abby. Even if she never fully gets over Mike (we all have those crushes/first loves/relationship/ones that got away/etc. that either took us FOREVER to get over or we just never did) does not mean she can not love Abby…..I agree Daisy needs to grow up just a bit and realize what she has with Abby, even if it means she does find out she doesn’t love him at all and just thinks he’s really sweet. Whatever it is, she does need to figure it out.
Abby also needs to loosen up and realize the chances of him and Daisy being together forever are not absolute. They both have a little growing to do, and if they do it right, they can easy continue their relationship. However, if done wrong…well….as the BCB world loves to have it…DRAMADRAMADRAMADRAMADRAMADRAMADRAMA
Well I’m done here….time to head out for class DX KEEP UP THE AWESOMESAUSE WORK TAESHI!!!
FireFang February 19, 2014, 2:54 PM EST.
I think Daisy only loved the idea of ‘being in a relationship’ and feeling ‘wanted’/’sought after’. Afterall, the girl is a mess of insecurities. To put it in perspective, she even admitted that she enjoyed the attention she’s gotten from Augustus (even after he tried taking advantage of her).
P.S. I’m glad you 2 are doing well Taeshi.
Pinki February 19, 2014, 2:54 PM EST.
Technically, he never really cheated on anybody. Lucy and Paulo never had a relationship, to be quite frank, and when he confessed to her later on in the series, it was after he had broken up with Jasmine. Please, do tell how he was able to earn the title of “Cheater.”
Just because someone defended Paulo, does not mean they would defend rapists and murderers as well. That’s like equating a man cutting in line to the Nazis. Completely outrageous and unnecessary.
Now, you can feel free to be as butt-hurt as you want, but Paulo never cheated on anybody, nor did he murder or rape anyone. Seriously, it’s people like you that make me wonder who people learn to think like that…
Get Well Soon February 19, 2014, 2:54 PM EST.
Frigg, I knew I forgot something in my message!
GET WELL SOON SOUPPY!
FireFang February 19, 2014, 3:07 PM EST.
That was well said and i applaud you for this really good post!
Tails February 19, 2014, 3:07 PM EST.
lol look at Thanatos being all mad, lying to himself and stuff
“cheating on you, lying to you, not really caring about you, and generally being disloyal and worthless in every way?”
this is all not true. lol
(stupid me, I shouldn’t reply to/talk about Thanatos)
boh... February 19, 2014, 3:09 PM EST.
“We’re all just kids! Our relationships aren’t going to last, we shouldn’t take them so seriously” said no teenager, ever.
Bluh February 19, 2014, 3:11 PM EST.
Umm. Nobody has been hating over Paulo (with the exception of @Thanatos who even commented AFTER you had posted your comment). Yeah Paulo is right they are kids, but to me it sounds like your saying Paulo is not a kid and knows better. Not trying to start a fight here though. Felt like replying though. Won’t deny that some people have made some angry rants but it doesn’t mean they hate him.
Not a PauloXLucy supporter (wanna hint? I like blue scarf dating blue eyes with white fur ) but I like your post. Way to go….. even if it’s a little similar to Craythey’s post it’s not completely the same.
Jonas97face February 19, 2014, 3:16 PM EST.
Well wishes soupy… hope you get to feeling better!
Mark February 19, 2014, 3:19 PM EST.
Guys, y u so mad?
When you were younger, didn’t you dream of marrying your crush? Wouldn’t you have told your best friend of your dreams? That’s all Paulo means by “that’s different.”
He’s honestly just trying to make Daisy feel better give the guy a break.
Also, David isn’t necessarily “calling him out,” he’a just absentmindedly making observations.
We all know that Paulo is right, to some extent. But he’s wrong to say that Abbey shouldn’t have expected Daisy to love him back.
*jumps into the snow* LET IT GO, LET IT GO! TURN AWAY AND SLAM THE DOOR! FkhKzjsjaxhsn!!!!
Silveryogurt February 19, 2014, 3:28 PM EST.
David is here to help.
Shiloh February 19, 2014, 3:31 PM EST.
P.s: Get well soon, Souppeh! Hospitals suck! Hoping you heal up really quick! 🎀
Silveryogurt February 19, 2014, 3:44 PM EST.
Paulo’s eyes: They see into your SOUL.
Daisy’s face in the last panel: Boys
The Scarlet Tailed Fox February 19, 2014, 3:46 PM EST.
SHUT UP, DAVID! DRINK YO’ PRUNE JUICE!
Gate-senpai February 19, 2014, 4:16 PM EST.
Can we all come together and agree that Paulo of all people is in no position to give anyone advice about their feelings?
Seriously this just occurred to me. Paulo’s relationship needs come down to two things:
- Is she Lucy? No? Bummer. I wanted her this time.
- Well is she female at least? Yeah? That works.
Lickit&stickit February 19, 2014, 4:26 PM EST.
David is just winning so much internet right now.
Silas February 19, 2014, 4:31 PM EST.
It’s always “different” isn’t it Paulo LOL. Hope Soupy has a quick recovery!
Jerad February 19, 2014, 4:58 PM EST.
David and paulo with the commen since, thats new
none knows who their going to end up with, Even if you do love some one or not that doesn’t mean they’ll love you back, and even if they do it doesn’t mean things are going to work out between them.Theres not one married or nonmaried couple out there thats perfect
thats why people make romance so complicated because they know theres chance things wont go well in a relationship. But thats no reason not to go for it.
lov/hate/hurt February 19, 2014, 5:01 PM EST.
I think it’s kind of sad on both ends of this. Abbey really cared for Daisy, maybe even loved her; and Daisy may have just liked him, but there were still feelings there. I think her sadness is kind of directed oddly, but I can she how she would be upset over being dumped. But she really hurt Abbey’s feelings… I don’t see why Abbey can’t be hurt, if Daisy is allowed to be like this.
marizella February 19, 2014, 5:07 PM EST.
yeah you are right about that
Wrong, if aybody could give her an advice, then it IS paulo, because he is in a similar situation and so he can empathize with her feelings and understand her the most of anyone in the group.
Tails February 19, 2014, 5:11 PM EST.
“we’re all kids”
Who get drunk?
BladeMaster February 19, 2014, 5:13 PM EST.
I swear David is like Mike from Dumbing of Age except he’s not an *******. He states the facts or adds in things to the the situation but he doesn’t help the situation and or he makes it worse.
Tealjoy February 19, 2014, 5:14 PM EST.
First of all you Have to understand a couple of things ,
1: Abbey just wanted daisy to love him back the same way he did , he realized the relationship wasnt going anywhere and after a year and seeing that daisy had really not moved on over mike , he call it quit, it hurt him a lot and most likely will create a lot of depression for him .
2: Daisy is in love with the idea of being in love , she is not and was never in love with mike , and yes she might like abbey a lot , but that doesn’t translate to feeling the same way abbey felt , imagine that you have a hundred dollars in one dollar bills, you can fool yourself into thinking you have a lot of money , but we all know that a hundred dollars won’t last you a week , it’s the same with daisy , she is just fooling herself that she likes abbey a lot , but in reality she never care for him that way , her main goal from the start has always been mike
3: Paulo is in no shape or form to be giving relationship advice , giving he wanted to date a senior , then when that didn’t work he had sex with two juniors and when that didn’t work he got into a relationship with a freshman >.> player much isn’t he ? And he broke up with jasmine , to go for Lucy and after declaring in front of everyone he loved her , he goes and has sex with Rachel and continues to do so , and is now jealous of any guy that goes near Rachel while still wanting Lucy .. Give me abreak this guy is a lost cause .
Anyways hopefully this will give to the rise of the crack ship known as AbbeyxLucy
Seariver February 19, 2014, 5:42 PM EST.
I love you .
You are my sun. My moon. My troll.
Gryph February 19, 2014, 5:45 PM EST.
How can people even like Paulo omg
I just hope abbey finds someone else and daisy come on there’s always gussie
Pirari February 19, 2014, 5:47 PM EST.
Paulo, quit losing arguments to David. It makes you look bad.
Titanium Dragon February 19, 2014, 5:55 PM EST.
How is Abbey asking for too much? All he wants is for Daisy to say she loves him, and if she can’t even do that…..
$adiq February 19, 2014, 6:07 PM EST.
Tails, just look up, Seariver and a few others have done an excellent job explaining why Paulo is a moron in love.
To put it in a way your tiny head might understand:
Just because someone is falling down a cliff next to me, doesn’t mean that person is in ANY shape to advise me about it.
Your insistent fervor that it’s the same situation does not detract from all the reasons why no one should EVER listen to Paulo about love. Honestly, your age is showing again.
Don’t encourage the blind leading the blind. Paulo is the picture of relationship dissatisfaction. Ignore the fact that he’s been moaning about Lucy for ages while he dates other people.
Lickit&stickit February 19, 2014, 6:33 PM EST.
My age is showing again? I take that as a compliment, because i´m way older than you.
I don´t encourage the blind leading the blind, if i would do it i would worship the hell out of you, but gladly the hell is still not frozen enough to even considering that!
And about the “explaining” posts, once again you rely only on those who are in your favor, while you ignore the others that explained it in a better way, like Firefang (a really good and long post), love/hate/hurt and others too without the need to keep on bashing paulo endlessly.
Tails February 19, 2014, 7:01 PM EST.
Tails, I ignored his post because it had little to do with why Paulo is or isn’t a good person to talk about love advice which is what I was talking about.
All Fangs said is, they think Paulo is right to point out age in Daisy’s dilemma. But then they banter about all the nasty reasons kids do end up dating and using each other to try to make a claim that even adults sometimes dates people they don’t like.
Which made me laugh if you wanted my take. If that’s your angle you are doing it wrong. I don’t anyone sane who dates people they aren’t attracted to for long periods of time.
Either way, that comment STILL has no meaning on whether or not Paulo is a good person to be asking. Given his experiences and current dissatisfaction with his own life, I’d certainly laugh at you if you said he can.
So no, I didn’t ignore it because it didn’t suit me. I ignored it because it mostly wasn’t related. Context always seems to be your strongest problem. Ironically, you always manage to misread not only my posts, but everyone’s based on your own idea of non-supported “better ideas”.
Lickit&stickit February 19, 2014, 7:29 PM EST.
@Tails you confuse me. You confuse me so much
Holly February 19, 2014, 7:30 PM EST.
Paulo’s reasoning isn’t really all that bad, it’s true when your young, most relationships don’t have a serious chance of lasting. Besides that, he’s currently in a very casual relationship with Rachel. So to him, Abbey breaking things off, just because Daisy isn’t serious about him, just sounds like he’s being a stick-in-the-mud about things. The thing Paulo isn’t taking into account is that for relationships to work, you need to be happy with the terms it’s based on to begin with.
If your dating as a teenager, but you both are being realistic that, much as you love each other now, there are MANY changes in your life coming up that may change that, or take you on different pathways. Then there’s nothing wrong with that logic. For all accounts Daisy and Abbey enjoyed their time together as a couple. But that only counts so long as they both *believe* and want the relationship to work. Daisy let the team down because she didn’t believe in it enough to actually let Abbey into her heart, on that basis, why should he believe in it working now?
If he admitted Abbey’s feeling were valid, he might have to consider how Rachel feels about him harping on about Lucy. He and Daisy are similar in how they are stuck on their past crushes and ignoring, or taking for granted the wonderful people they currently do have with them.
The difference is Rachel puts her heart on the line because she already knew Paulo needed time to get over Lucy (and maybe hoped the no-strings-attached nature of her approach will make him appreciate her with time), she’s not under any illusion as to what Paulo’s feelings are. While Abbey and Daisy tried to play happy couples and tried to believe their relationship was genuine. When that was shattered for Abbey…well yeah, better to end it than to stay and be unhappy about it.
Daisy looks a bit miffed in the lower panel, wonder if she’s going to weigh in on Paulo’s recent endeavours?
jennytablina February 19, 2014, 7:37 PM EST.
we are all just kids, says the one that is having casual sex
Dr. Innocentchild February 19, 2014, 7:38 PM EST.
Well…this is awkward.
Mcturtle February 19, 2014, 7:40 PM EST.
Paulo’s quite the hypocrite and also biased, it would be foolish to argue against that.
BUT Paulo might well be the only person Daisy would actually talk to regarding relationship issues.
After all, she already once deliberately targeted him for advice.
They are more or less like brother & sister.
You’re making zero sense there ‘bub.
Whrill February 19, 2014, 7:41 PM EST.
Very thoughtful post. I’m still in the gray area as to whether or not Rachel plans to date Paulo seriously. She doesn’t seem all to unhappy with their current state and she’s always tight-roped a neutral “It’s casual! But no really I like ya!” I think she just wants to see what happens. Rather much like how Abbey started. And you are right that she isn’t under the illusion that Paulo is in love with her and that Paulo is not sending her those signals. We will see how she fares in a year if it takes Paulo that long to stop mourning Lucy.
I certainly hope Daisy weighs in to advise Paulo. That would be a riot.
Lickit&stickit February 19, 2014, 7:46 PM EST.
@Tails , i don’t want to get into needless arguments , but aren’t you doing the same thing , stating only the arguments that suit your views and disregarding some valid points as to why their attitude is wrong ? If you like Paulo and dislike abbey for hurting daisy that’s all well and good , but don’t try to make Paulo into something he is not and try to make abbey into some *********
Paulo is not a stable boyfriend material, he is a player and believes that he should get with any girl he wants , he IS immature and thinks that being a teen excuses you from responsibility, he might have his shining moments of loyalty and being a good friend , but that’s the exception not the rule , but just argument sakes lets give Paulo the benefit of doubt , and say that he was hurting badly because he couldn’t get the ” love of his life ” Lucy ,
You don’t go have sex with the nearest person available , just to and ,I quote ” , “dull the pain ” , it makes you look like your feelings for that person weren’t that strong to begin with if you can go do it with anyone that is willing to do it with you , I am not bashing Paulo because i dislike the character in question . im bashing his choices and immature way of thinking when it comes to relationships , and also just because some people are okay with mucking around and being immature about love and life , that doesn’t mean everyone will share their views e.i ’ Jasmine’ and the way i see it , if you are willing to have sex, then you are willing to be responsible for the consequences that sex brings , whether emotional or physical .
Seariver February 19, 2014, 8:01 PM EST.
I think last Chapter betrayed Rachel’s true feelings somewhat, she clearly does feel something serious for Paulo, and cares enough to help him. If all she was looking for was sex, you wouldn’t pick the guy who spends half his time moping about “coulda-woulda-shoulda”
She looked pretty hurt when Paulo started on about Lucy, and I think she half brought it up jokingly as a kind of light “hint” that it was pretty lousy behaviour on his part. Besides the fact he was too drunk and suffering from the ill effects for any serious talk. The real question would be, did Rachel give up the fight that night? Or is she still holding out on Paulo? She seems a bit more cool towards him than she was last chapter. Ironically just as it seems he might just be starting to actually notice her (though still hiding behind that casual relationship)
jennytablina February 19, 2014, 8:07 PM EST.
First of all, that is not a claim, teens and even adults INDEED do that stuff that Fangs described pretty often ( a girl did that to me about 3 years ago and several friends of me were on both ends of such happenings, so i can tell you first hand that it really exists and is rather common (at least in bigger cities)! Shocking, isn´t it? )
Secondly, the post was indeed related, because it tried to explain why paulo reacted that way and what is behind paulos speech, which in turn can give you a look on how paulo sees the situation, but you schugged it off as “not related”, because you refuse to think about it being a possibility for “sane” people to “experiment” without love/feelings being involved.
So you see, at the end it WAS ignored by you because it did not suit you.
Also, you can laugh all you want, i STILL say that he would be the best option for daisy to talk to.
Tails February 19, 2014, 8:16 PM EST.
Anybody know where they are exactly?
3fast5u February 19, 2014, 8:31 PM EST.
Also worth pointing out, Daisy hasn’t actually asked Paulo for advice, and I suspect she won’t actually ask for it. Paulo is just lamely attempting to make Abbey sound like the bad guy, because he’s trying to make Daisy feel better in a kind of “big brotherly” way and doesn’t really know how to make the situation better right now.
(also technically you can be in a pretty bad life situation, or making mistakes but still plenty capable of providing good advice in spite of this. It’s amazing how clearly people can see the common sense solutions to other peoples problems, but somehow mentally complicate their own problems in their head or make excuses to *not* get out of a bad situation of their own. It may be hypocritical, but does it really matter when your mainly just trying to support a friend? )
Paulo’s biggest problem is with these interactions where a certain level of intimacy and shows of caring are needed. He’s spent so long trying to be the macho cat that doesn’t need to deal with feelings, that he’s awkward in situations like this and doesn’t really know what to do. But he tries all the same, and that’s really all that matters right now. Daisy just needed to be consoled by friends, yes she’s upset - and okay likely nowhere near as hurt as Abbey must of been feeling since the party. But that doesn’t mean she isn’t deserving of some support while she helps make sense of her feelings, and possibly the guilt she may be feeling at hurting Abbey as she has. She knows she’s done bad, but likely the shock of the split is too raw for her to yet personally reflect on her actions.
jennytablina February 19, 2014, 8:50 PM EST.
David is a Tsukkomi generator jajaja, Paulo can’t end a thing without messing with him.
Knight-A February 19, 2014, 8:54 PM EST.
@BladeMaster and @Knight-A : Indeed
The Scarlet Tailed Fox February 19, 2014, 9:02 PM EST.
Funny that you say i make would Paulo into something he´s not, but you basicly do it yourself by making an immature, sex-driven playboy with no sense for responibility, who wants to bang everyone out of him, when he clearly istn´t like that for a long time now! Every time he made a “bad” decision an outside surce that influenced him to doing it was involved in it. (Mostly it was David)
But You can see the begin of his change to the better when he fell in love with Tess, which made a big impact on him and made him stop doing the stuff you accouse him here (he only started flirting again because david pushed him to). Also, he only actually slept with exactly 2 girls (and in both situations it was not him who had the initiative and he didn´t even had intention to do it), had enough responsibility to not using Lucys state and situation to sleep with her (same with Tess) and has now a FWB thing (with involved feelings) going on with one of the two he slept with. And this can never be a definition of “mucking around”. He may be appear like a “Playboy” first, but he is in fact rather nice and careing, once you look behind that “bad boy” image.
And you seemingly have a problem with people who are open to having casual sex if they are not in an relationship, because you propably don´t like the idea of having sex not automatical equals being in love/having hard feelings for the other.
Thank you very much for pointing all of that out, those 3 posts were awesome and well-thought.
Tails February 19, 2014, 9:18 PM EST.
Give it a rest Tails.
If sea thinks Paulo is an ******* because he’s has meaningless sex with everyone but the gal he loves, let him. By some people’s standards, Paulo is an emotional lunatic and by others he’s just a guy.
Aren’t you the one always crying about how, “People react differently, so there isn’t a wrong way to think about things?” At least stick with the same ideology. Your thoughts are as random as shooting a gun in the air with your eyes closed.
Lickit&stickit February 19, 2014, 9:41 PM EST.
I amount of debate on a comic about cartoon cats is kinda ridiculous. Ya’ll sound like Abby in the election chapter
Another Anon February 19, 2014, 9:50 PM EST.
secretly we ARE abbey in the election chapter
Tails February 19, 2014, 10:12 PM EST.
Am I the only one who thinks that both Paolo and David have a point, here?
Yes, it is silly for a teenager to expect their relationships to be serious and lasting.
But it can and does happen. People marry their high school sweethearts every day. Abby knows what he needs, and he’s not obligated to stay with Daisy if she can’t give him that — just as she’s not obligated to love him in the first place.
Kohane February 19, 2014, 10:44 PM EST.
This is very Reasonable None of them are even at them are in there twenties yet, they have there entire life ahead of them to look for the one.If it was that easy to find the true love, how come so many people wind up heart broken
void February 19, 2014, 10:55 PM EST.
@Tails duh du duu du~ inception
Kong low February 19, 2014, 11:05 PM EST.
You know, David’s comments were not just random statements that were said at the wrong place at the wrong time. Abbey knew how much Paulo loved Lucy and very likely held it in his heart. Thinking, maybe Daisy can love me the way I love her. That is was not asking too much since someone as childish and playful as Paulo even took love seriously at their age. Yet she is showing her love to another person. David has helped make this so clear unintentionally and that makes this beautiful
Timni February 19, 2014, 11:20 PM EST.
Ugh these comments need less Daisy and Paulo and need more DAVID! I’m really loving David right now. Blunt but honest! David is pretty much the voice of reason here. He has done this before. Just when you think he is a total moron, BAM, he throws some truth at the other characters that they didn’t want to hear but needed to! You can’t tell if the boy is an idiot or a genius!
Annika February 20, 2014, 1:45 AM EST.
Uh, it’s about time Daisy stopped leading Abby on. It’s not cool in my book for someone to just date someone when they advertise that the relationship is deeper than just dating. I think that Abby is the bigger person here because he truly loved her, and it’s hard to let go of someone you love deeply and you know they will never truly be happy with you. I can’t believe that no one is bashing on Daisy for wanting Mike even though he is happily dating someone else! I don’t like how we are ignoring Sandy. As a person who has gone through long distance dating, girls like Daisy **** me off the most. You know that Sandy has a ****** life in terms of self-esteem and lack of support from her mom. So her BOYFRIEND is there for her! (SO MUCH FOR BEST FRIEND DAISY!!!) Strike three for me guys.
Daisy is cute an all but that is about it. She’s fake, outed Lucy when she didn’t even know the whole story (when Lucy STUCK UP for Daisy mind you), disregard her so called best friends relationship, and was dishonest by leading Abby on. Those quality just do not fly with me and I don’t like how she gets all the comfort in the world and attention.
(BTW Taeshi I love your work <3 )
Q~Q February 20, 2014, 2:46 AM EST.
I like the last panel.
HongKat February 20, 2014, 3:40 AM EST.
Of course Daisy’s sad and all, but I hope once the emotions die down she’s grown enough to take some personal responsibility for her situation.
Zott February 20, 2014, 4:56 AM EST.
Kinda not the biggest fan of Paulo right now; he’s ALWAYS on the chick’s side. It’s a bit worrying. I get he’s trying to make her feel better but David’s got the right of it IMO.
Syrus February 20, 2014, 8:42 AM EST.
Lets set the record straight , Paulo is trying to help daisy and cheer her up, ’ in a hypocritical way , but that’s all he knows ’ . He is trying to make daisy see how good she is over abbey and is trying to make abbey look like just a “tool” which is actually kinda ironic giving that daisy used abbey’s affection for her as a tool to get over mike .
David hit the nail on the head , Daisy never loved abbey, she was in love with the idea of dating and being in love, which is common in some teens. And there is nothing wrong with having casual relationships if both parties are aware of it . If one party wants to invest in it and the other doesn’t , then it will not work out . Abbey saw this and came to realize it in the most horrible way for him giving his family history , Through a drunk daisy. Who also stuck a donkey’s tail on his arm and made him had to go drink to try to forget that night even happen.
Did he wait too long to confront daisy ? Most likely . Did he give enough time for daisy to respond to his questions ? Yes he did
Was he an ******* about it ? No ,
Does daisy like abbey a lot ? Yes she does,
Does daisy love abbey? No she doesn’t .
Is daisy in love with mike , most likely yes .
She is in no way fit to be in a relationship until she gets her priorities straight . and triple goes for paublo , i used to like him but, giving how he is been acting lately hits way to close to home for my Taste because it was people like him that made my highschool ****** . So I might be biased on my part. So until he redeems himself in my eyes . He is not getting out of my naughty list , but in any case
I’m going to ask you girls a question .
If your boyfriend did what daisy do on the party ? Would you just let it be and not address it on the hopes that you don’t ruin the illusion of a happy relationship ? Or address it and let The Abyssinian out of the bag , and understand where both of you stand .
And one last thing . How old is Paulo anyways , because if he is 15 years old . He shouldn’t be having sex anyways . xP
Seariver February 20, 2014, 9:52 AM EST.
Interesting comments. Very interesting comments. I’m going to have to (I don’t really have to) lean towards that Paulo is not the best in giving Daisy a relationship advice. His ”relationships” have been different. But I’m only judging what he is saying now. I still believe that Paulo might come with some good advice. But right now he hasn’t. So I’m still waiting until he comes with a good advice. If not, well then we all know we should not trust him to give us relationship advice (I’m talking about serious relationships not some ”goofing around” relationships, which intends to happen a lot in my High School ).
However I’m really sure about all of this. I’m still pretty confused and haven’t really thought this all through but I’m only expressing (if that’s the right word) what I think right now. Whenever I’m unsure of things here in the comment, I just wait and see what happens.
Many comments here are really good. But when it comes to judging of characters… then I’m really unsure. I judge only the decissions (again I hope I wrote it right) of characters not the character himself (at least not if I don’t really know the character well, then again I might not know any of the characters well since I’m not the creator). It’s easy to judge a character if he’s not like yourself. We often judge people and compere them to our selves. But I don’t think that works since nobody is the same. People are different, both in appearances and in thought.
I’m not asking anybody to support my comment or to rage over it. I’m not making a statement (even though it might sound like one). I’m only expressing my thoughts.
Jonas97face February 20, 2014, 10:01 AM EST.
Ummm. Daisy did not force Abbey or anything to drink. He took that decission alone. Just like when it comes to Paulo having dated Rachel and Jessica, people often blame David about it (I don’t see why it was bad thing for Paulo to date them? Maybe people didn’t like that he had sex? I don’t know but ok) but it was Paulo who took the decission.
Jonas97face February 20, 2014, 10:08 AM EST.
David is asking all the hard-hitting questions without probably even knowing it.
Ud the Imp February 20, 2014, 10:26 AM EST.
Nope, that’s pretty much the same thing. Idiot.
Otter guy February 20, 2014, 11:50 AM EST.
these two are by far the worst creatures you could ask for advice on love affairs; one doesn’t really care about that and the other is a complete douche
Red February 20, 2014, 12:06 PM EST.
Uiss David your not really helping lol
robyn February 20, 2014, 12:10 PM EST.
Interesting. David is a lot more insightful than people give him credit for.
As for whether or not Paolo is a decent guy - Well. I think he’s a jerk, personally. Paolo is quite the *******. It’s just that he can put his *******-ness aside when his friends emotions are on the line. And I don’t really think Paolo understands the concept of love very well - he feels it, but he doesn’t know how to go about it. He loves Lucy, so he breaks up with Jasmine. When Lucy leaves, he doesn’t object to Rachel being all over him (which Jasmine takes him to task for, and quite awesomely at that) and even sleeping with Rachel (which Sue takes him to task for). He also gets jealous over the possibility that Rachel is seeing other people while he himself is continuing to pine after Lucy and constantly tells people that he and Rachel are not dating right in front of Rachel.
Paolo is indeed a hypocrite, but he’s a hypocrite who cares about his friends. There’s more than one layer to characters, guys, and everyone in this story has good and bad about them. Everyone.
ThirteenDarkDoves February 20, 2014, 12:12 PM EST.
Why aren’t there new pages every day now? I miss it….but if you’re sick or something, I’m sorry for asking and feel better, but that’s only if you’re unwell
Luna February 20, 2014, 1:28 PM EST.
David clearly guilt tripped / goaded Paulo into doing it by targeting Paulo’s own self-esteem.
When you look through the comic thoroughly, then David is actually quite the ******* himself, but in a really weird way.
It’s almost as if it all is just part of his imagination and he’s the only real character.
O-revana February 20, 2014, 2:48 PM EST.
“”And one last thing . How old is Paulo anyways , because if he is 15 years old . He shouldn’t be having sex anyways . xP””
You’re opening up a nasty can of worms by mentioning that arbitrary age limit, you really wanna do that?
O-revana February 20, 2014, 2:50 PM EST.
@ O-revana . He is at the most a sophomore , and at the least a junior , I’m asking because I’m honestly curios as to what his age is . And if he is refering himself as a kid , then as such I will treat him like a kid . And a kid shouldn’t be having casual sex . Would you like your children/ teen to do what Paulo is doing ..?
Seariver February 20, 2014, 3:16 PM EST.
As long as both parties are consenting and the appropriate protection is being used, then I don’t see the harm.
But I’m not from a part of the world where sex is considered extremely taboo, unlike the US where there’s a giant fuzz over something as trivial as accidentally exposed female nipples.
O-revana February 20, 2014, 3:41 PM EST.
But it was ultimately Paulo’s decission. I don’t deny that David goaded him and maybe even messed with his head. But it was Paulo who made the decission. He didn’t have to, but he still did it. But I don’t think what he did was really bad. I mean it is his life. He can live it in any way he chooses. As long as he aint breaking the law of course (and not intentionally hurting anybody).
Jonas97face February 20, 2014, 3:49 PM EST.
He is 15, as you can see on the about page.
Tails February 20, 2014, 3:57 PM EST.
same here, are you maybe from western-or central Europe? ;P
Tails February 20, 2014, 4:03 PM EST.
Hmph. David, please leave the room.
Gate-senpai February 20, 2014, 5:18 PM EST.
Why? He is right
Luamlnja February 20, 2014, 6:13 PM EST.
@Luamlnja: I’m not going to discuss whether David is right or not, because that doesn’t even matter, all he is doing is interjecting in a way that is not helping at all. He is outright hindering Paulo’s attempts to cheer up Daisy and regardless of whether he is telling the truth or not, he is still performing a jerk move by doing so because it isn’t helping.
He’s like that one guy who when your best friend is crying, starts pointing out the flaws in what they did which only makes them cry harder. Even if it is true, there is an appropriate time for such words and it is not when they are crying their eyes out.
Moogle February 20, 2014, 6:56 PM EST.
Okay so I would have to eat my words and apologize to people , but hey that’s what happens when you are wrong and admit it ,
the age of consent in most countries is 16 years old , and while technically he is breaking the law. I will let that slide , because let’s face it , he is not real and taking to court so to speak a fictitious feline, makes me sound as dumb as PETA. And I will have to admit I been harsh on the idiot , mainly because he reminds me of my cousin and he ruined his life because of that way of thinking . 2 kid by the age of 16 is probably the dumbest desicion he made . So I’m sorry for flying off the handle .
And also in Florida the age of consent is 16-24 meaning a 24 year old can have sex with a 16 year old and it’s considered legal. And as creepy as that might sound to some of you that’s the law of my state
Seariver February 20, 2014, 6:57 PM EST.
“the age of consent in most countries is 16 years old , and while technically he is breaking the law. I will let that slide , because let’s face it , he is not real and taking to court so to speak a fictitious feline, makes me sound as dumb as PETA”
You are right with that. Btw, here is how it is lawwise over here:
Tails February 20, 2014, 8:01 PM EST.
He may be right, but at the same time for the wrong reasons AND that he’s being so at the wrong moment.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions…
Strifer February 20, 2014, 8:05 PM EST.
It’s weird though, since David is actually contradicting Paulo’s argument pretty well here..
Gabba February 20, 2014, 8:08 PM EST.
But its David, he has neither good nor bad intentions at this point, he’s David. And you could argue that “the road to hell is paved with good intentions” position applies to Paulo here as well. Sorry for butting in
Holly February 20, 2014, 8:45 PM EST.
David is a two-bit stereotypical and unoriginal comic relief character, He has just as much character depth as a dried up puddle.
Can’t wait for him to take the metaphorical bus out of the story.
Six Silver February 20, 2014, 8:59 PM EST.
SuzyDoodle February 20, 2014, 9:59 PM EST.
is it just me or does anyone else feel like Davids stating the viewers thoughts?
Seiri February 20, 2014, 10:48 PM EST.
Well it shows he pays attention fairly well
HelTH February 20, 2014, 11:29 PM EST.
Genius Davie. Genius. Davie.
Just-A-Lurker February 20, 2014, 11:57 PM EST.
@Seiri: I find he just irritates me. He isn’t remotely helping. He is just making things worse by upsetting Daisy more and angering Paulo.
Moogle February 21, 2014, 12:06 AM EST.
It’s always fun to watch Paulo try to explain things seriously.
asdf February 21, 2014, 12:27 AM EST.
David says wise things, but he delivers it like a doof.
Blank On Purpose February 21, 2014, 1:46 AM EST.
just enjoy the comic, its really not a big deal.
Shoge February 21, 2014, 4:15 AM EST.
Looking forward for the next page upload. Any more sweet juicy arguments coming up ? Any more talk about Daisy or Paulo? (or maybe even David?)
Any theories somebody? Anybody wanna share? C’mon guys. (*Uses the voice of Smaug from the movie Hobbit*) Don’t be shy, step out into the light.
JK. I just had to do this
Jonas97face February 21, 2014, 4:16 AM EST.
High-five to whoever mentioned, I wanna say seariver, that Paulo is an idiot if he considers himself a kid, but is having casual sex. Woo hooooooo Paulo, you are, in fact, a kid engaging in frequent behavior that might accidentally make kids you bonehead.
(Not if he only stays with Rachel though)
What a lunatic.
Way to go Paulo, encouraging Daisy to be more like you and not take people’s feelings seriously.
Lickit&stickit February 21, 2014, 6:29 AM EST.
Also, something I don’t understand among young people, is everyone is terrified about talking with their dating buddy about marriage or the general, “What are we? And where do you think we might be if we continue dating?”
It’s viewed as a major, I CAN’T BELIEVE THEY’D CONSIDER SUCH THINGS, cue panic.
Even if it’s just to gauge their partner’s ideas for what they want out of the future, people choose to freak out over it like children.
You can see Paulo do this here, and it makes reasonable sense to be immature about this for 15-20 ages, but past that? People really need to just be open enough to discuss if one party needs clarification to consider if they are in the right relationship. The couple is going to have problems if the expectations are in major disagreement because someone is going to be upset over it.
People are so weird about communication. I’ll never understand.
Lickit&stickit February 21, 2014, 6:50 AM EST.
I see where people are coming from when saying Paulo is contradicting himself, but it didn’t seem like he was expecting marriage out of Lucy, just that he would. Abbey however broke up with Daisy because she didn’t love him back. He was expecting feelings in return instead of just feeling them for her.
Mayamayagirl February 21, 2014, 7:59 AM EST.
I was just wondering why David was part of the main group when he doesn’t really do ANYTHING except for Paulo, and then he goes and says stuff like this. This is why we love you, dog (and your antics). Way to disprove your own point, Paulo. At least you were trying?
+bird+ February 21, 2014, 9:00 AM EST.
Also @Lickit&stickit, I completely agree with you.It’s an issue. -_-
+bird+ February 21, 2014, 9:02 AM EST.
the art here is well done, but I miss the brightness and detail of the watercolours - the characters just look kinda young and blurry atm.
However Taeshi is experimenting so she might just be finding her feet and getting comfortable with the style so lets see how it goes
Ambel February 21, 2014, 9:31 AM EST.
David is psychic
Sambo February 24, 2014, 9:06 PM EST.
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