Bittersweet Candy Bowl

I mean tbf he never actually loved her, just loved the idea of having someone

What was his reason for liking her again? That her hair smelled nice or something

Agreed on all counts. This feels mean and raw in a weird way.

I kinda disagree, you shouldn’t have to hold someone’s hand when rejecting them

Let’s also not forget that she been showing clear signs that she’s not into him and he kept pushing anyway

In that case bluntness is needed

Any kindness would just make Jordan think she’s just playing hard to get and he should just try harder to manipulate her with affection and that she would come around

Knowing what you want and being blunt aren’t bad traits inherently. I want to like Tiff, but it does feel gross that this is all okay with her. Jordan does need a wake up call, though.

Tiff being honest and upfront is probably the only positive thing she has going for her in terms of personality.

A 3/10 (in terms of positive traits of her character) is better than a zero, but it’s still a failing grade.

Either way, I’m tired of her treating Jordan like a chump (even if he is enabling her to do so by buying stuff for her), I’m glad to see her go, so that the healing can begin (hopefully).

I’m honestly not sure she is using Jordan

It could be that she doesn’t mind hanging out with Jordan just not in a romantic way

She shouldn’t have to dissapear from his life just cause he can’t take no for an answer

The way i see it Tiff is very honest if somewhat blunt in how she feels. Jordan is the bad apple here for putting his feelings above hers and thinking “she’ll come around”

You can also say it’s slimy and manipulative of Jordan how he showers her with attention for the sole purpose of winning her over

I can agree with the fact that she doesn’t need to leave his life, perhaps they can be good friends I dont know enough of Tiff outside of Jordan’s “romantic” outing with her.

But she is definitely using Jordan, if she’s still accepting offerings from him despite making her stance clear is definitely using him because she knows why he’s buying things for her in the first place

she has a choice to refuse his offerings, but doesn’t, if she refused Jordan’s gifts and his offers to buy her things, I could see her in a slightly better light, and it would crush any hope of Jordan being more than friends with her.

I’m also not a fan of cruel honesty you can say what you mean, unfiltered, without being a jerk about it, or insulting people. Tact exists for a reason.

Jordan is also at fault, cause he constantly tries to buy her affection with gifts instead of getting a clue that she’s not obligated to love him because of he buys things for her or takes her out, he needs to have more self respect for himself and just realize that its not gonna work out, and that there are others girl out there who’ll reciprocate his feelings.

Both Jordan and Tiff have bad traits and both are bad apples in this instance.

As Tiff said“ It takes two to tango.”

I mean she’s been telling him she doesn’t want to date him for well over a year now and he just. Will. Not. Stop. Trying. Jordans nice and all, but with Tiff he kind of borders on coercive behaviour. He literally tried to trick her onto a date today after she turned him down the first time. So like at what point do you stop being nice about it?

That’s a fair point, but I think if she wants nothing to do with him, then she shouldn’t have even gone on this not-date with him at all. Like, there’s “not being nice”, and then there’s “actively being hurtful”, and I think Tiff’s starting to dip her toes into the latter. But iunno. Maybe this really is the only way he’ll get the message?

It is mostly making that everyone else’s problem at the gathering/date-not-date. Jordan is chock full of bad decisions, and she is right to be fed up with his inability to understand when no means no.

I would be miffed, too, but…I also can’t imagine coming along in the first place, much less putting down people who aren’t even a part of that whole mess.

I’m hoping that the title, Made Fresh, means that he’ll actually listen to Paulo this time.