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Comment ID #223619
I knew this chapter was going to hit me where it hurts and yet i still wasn’t ready
Brittany
Comment ID #223620
Yikes…
Joselyn Rivera
Comment ID #223621
Can I just say that I am LOVING this chapter so far? It really makes you think!
esinololly
Comment ID #223622
This page makes a lot of things make a lot of sense to me. It’s nice to know the world is wider than the angst and tumult of these high schooler’s romantic lives.
Steven Pope
Comment ID #223623
Really interesting insight to her perspective. I can’t blame her for being resentful of Mike when the whole family is having a real problem literally in the house and he’s worrying about someone who gives him nothing good in return who would be easy to just…not deal with
Nev Ravenoak
Comment ID #223624
Every problem is a real problem, especially at Mike’s age, and dismissing them is how they escalate. Also, anything that leads someone to stop eating is a “real problem”.
Jorpando
Comment ID #223625
It’s Haley’s perspective I’m talking about, dear. Not mine. Mike is clearly suffering from depression and that doesn’t really need a “good” reason at all. Mike is clearly Going Through It, and Haley is a teenager with very limited sympathies for various reasons, which is what the chapter is exploring.
Nev Ravenoak
Comment ID #223626
From Haley’s pov this makes total sense
The question does need to be asked. Does he only care about his shitty girlfriend or is that an assumption cause his shitty girlfriend happened to be the drop that spilled the bucket?
We all know Mike biggest character flaw is he bottles negative emotions untill he bursts. And in those cases what makes one burst often isn’t the main cause of it
Kiall Vun Myeret
Comment ID #223627
Confirmation about Mike’s parents’ situation is huge. She’s kind of right though, he’s so wrapped up in his own shit that even the audience following him for over a decade didn’t know for sure.
Sinna Burns / Sinnabunny
Comment ID #223628
Is that Rachel’s brother?
Fiver
Comment ID #223629
I’ve been dying to learn more about Hayley’s feelings about EF. She reminds me of Lucy the way she seems to be masking her concern for Mike with abrasiveness.
I don’t recall where I saw it, but I remember someone put forth the idea that one reason why Mike clings so tightly to his relationship with Sandy is because of his parents’ relationship troubles. This page makes me believe it even more
whiteboypizza
Comment ID #223630
Oh that is 6000% what I believe now. Why cling to this bad relationship? Because the alternative is (apparently) so much worse.
Steven Pope
Comment ID #223631
Ok, now it looks a little more valid
PAM
Comment ID #223632
Ok, now it looks a little more valid
PAM
Comment ID #223633
To be fair is mike aware of what’s going on with their parents or Haley’s issues? Boys tend to not pay it much mind
Zambies
Comment ID #223634
the thing is, is Mike actually unaware? back when he first offered to take care of Chris he was going to say something about dad but didn’t finish
Mike might have known all of this, hell, it could be affecting his warped view of how relationships work, but nobody in this family is capable of having a proper conversation. which of course means Haley’s going to be upset no matter what, she’d never be able to know what he thinks about the whole thing
SomeColourMage
Comment ID #223635
I get from Haley’s perspective it looks like he doesn’t care, but what is Mike realistically supposed to do? He can hardly get his parents to not divorce. Sometimes it can feel better to bury your head in the sand and not think about all the shit going on in your family, to have some semblance of control of your life. I know that’s how I reacted when my parents were going through it. It must be frustrating for Haley being on the other side of that though, she probably just wants to talk and vent to her brother about the experience they’re sharing but she can’t reach him if he’s up in the clouds
Addystar
Comment ID #223636
She looks so tired
Paprika
Comment ID #223637
I’m so glad to see where this went because this whole chapter I’ve kept thinking back to Haley’s cameo in Eternal Flame and how genuinely worried she seemed for her brother that day and how she was the one who seemed to notice something happened and he wasn’t okay. Made me think from the start that even if Haley’s genuinely resentful over being the parentified eldest daughter without the golden child treatment, it doesn’t mean she hates him or that she’s a one dimensional harpy totally ignorant or unsympathetic to what he’s been going through. But the whole family is going through a lot and she was obviously frustrated to see him getting back into a relationship that put him in such a bad place and probably assumes that’s still all of what’s making him unhappy now and that she can’t do much to save him from that choice.
mobsterseeker
Comment ID #223638
Awww, she’s angry at Sandy for treating Mike like that. I knew you still care a lot about your brother, Haley!
Lil_Brimstone
Comment ID #223639
Haley is truly the eldest daughter
⚰️ Irani ⚰️
Comment ID #223640
Yep, this entire page further confirms for me that they’re kids playing at adults. Haley’s feelings are valid, yet we can see she has the limited view of a teenager still experiencing and learning to understand the world.
This is shown through the fact that she can see how Mike’s relationship isn’t healthy for him. Yet she can only acknowledge that it upsets her because “their family’s problems should be more important.”
Haley isn’t at the stage where she can acknowledge that her brother is likely only maintaining his relationship with Sandy due to his own limited experience with romantic relationships. This may be a result of having their parents’ tumultuous marriage as an immediate example of what a relationship is. And their parents, by example, have shown that this means staying in an unhealthy relationship, even at the cost of yourself, while using any excuse necessary to do so.
Elmanii