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Comment ID #39719
Overkill
Elisa
Comment ID #39720
Ouch
Washington BC
Comment ID #39721
Dear lord.
EzekielWonders
Comment ID #39722
Yikes
Joselyn Rivera
Comment ID #39723
The tri-weekly Mike torture continues
Kuromifang
Comment ID #39724
If this keeps up Mike is going to end up as a black mark on the floor.
Yellow467
Comment ID #39725
simpsons stop stop he’s already dead meme
simplygastly
Comment ID #39726
Ohhh that last set of panels is so remniscient of December
Sugarfreefox
Comment ID #39727
This is very much Mike’s December. I appreciate the callback
hazel
Comment ID #39728
holy SHIT dude
I mean, you’re right, but GOD DAMN
SomeColourMage
Comment ID #39729
one of those situations where he knocked the crux of mikes issues outta the park but damn I wish this had been said in a kinder or healthier or less teenagerly manner
simplygastly
Comment ID #39730
I get you, but considering how much of a mess this whole thing was I don’t think a nicer way of putting it was possible
SomeColourMage
Comment ID #39731
Ehhhhhhhhhhh, poor Mike.
GamerPrincessXI
Comment ID #39732
Ooof damn don’t make me feel bad for him
Frejya
Comment ID #39733
Oh yeah, that’s a good point. He’s the one who wants to keep dating Sandy so this is unfair to her.
I was also thinking before this strip came up. Lucy has a tendency to string Paulo along when she’s at her lowest. I wonder if he’ll bring it up.
CauliFlower
Comment ID #39734
The difference is, Lucy was straight up with Paulo about everything, and expressed that she shouldn’t be easily forgiven for it. This whole time she believed she deserved to no longer be apart of the group due to her actions and actually isolated herself from them.
Onistina
Comment ID #39735
If you’re talking about the play she only admitted she just wanted to tide him over after she came back home. And then she flirted with him again when her brother asked someone to take her home
CauliFlower
Comment ID #39736
What happened between her and Paulo before the play wasn’t her stringing him along though. She thought she was giving him what he wanted because she was never supposed to see him again. Either because she was being sent away or she had no intention of surviving. Her latching on to Paulo in the hallway was definitely a dick move after everything.
Zai
Comment ID #39737
That’s not much better. Especially since she didn’t tell him about her intentions beforehand. They got intimate. Full disclosure is required beforehand.
CauliFlower
Comment ID #39738
She was like 15 and apologized to him for it basically as soon as she could when she got back, I don’t know why you’re always talking about things Lucy did that she already recognized, apologized, and made amends for
Snowstar837
Comment ID #39739
I would have left it at that if she hadn’t flirted with Paulo when her brother and Augustus asked her to go home with someone. She also got offended when Paulo said he didn’t like her that way anymore.
CauliFlower
Comment ID #39740
Somehow I don’t think you’re recalling that part in the comic correctly. Because I re-read it recently, and it was clearly Paulo who was mad because he tried flirting with her, and she reminded him she wasn’t into HIM. He even went as far as to say if it was because he hung out with Mike, then he’d drop Mike if that made her happy, and she got mad at him for that.
Onistina
Comment ID #39741
Considering Sandy guilted him into taking her back I can’t say I feel bad for her.
Latrell Walker
Comment ID #39742
I was referring to chapter 114 pg 19-20. She wasn’t mad yet, but she was irked to hear he didn’t like her that way. She even brought it up in the following argument (which started when Paulo said he’d cut Mike off)
CauliFlower
Comment ID #39743
I believe that while Sandy isn’t innocent either, Mike himself has a serious case of “Sunk Cost Fallacy”. He said himself that he has to make the relationship work, or it would all have been for nothing. Something along those lines
CauliFlower
Comment ID #39744
She was irked that he said she was the hottest girl alive because she hates people sexualizing her not because he “rejected” her
Brittany
Comment ID #39745
How did the song go again?
🎵Because I’m all alone. There’s noone here beside me.🎵
Yellow467
Comment ID #39746
HAHAHA, MAY THIS REVELATION STING YOU WITH THE MIGHT OF A THOUSAND BEES, MIKE.
Doctor Miles Manners
Comment ID #39747
Oh my god James that’s brutal lmao
Antares
Comment ID #39748
That last line is MERCILESS holy hell. Mike’s gonna spiral extra hard that Sandy liking someone else was his fault / what he deserved all along
AlisterTX
Comment ID #39749
Stop….stop…he’s already dead…
Audrey Wilson
Comment ID #39750
Mike should go home early.. and call Sandy. Thats his only support system rn. Hopefully she can console him between her updates about her day.
Mearcyn
Comment ID #39751
Well…damn
Aesthete Noire
Comment ID #39752
Harsh, but fair, but harsh. Longing for the alternate timeline where Mike stayed at the lunch table with the track bros and works on building up healthy friendships with people who aren’t “pining for him.” I know he struggles with feeling like he loses friendships because he doesn’t return their romantic affections, but it seems like he also needs to learn to let go of those kinds of friendships. I think that will also help him feel better about himself and his self esteem. Speaking from experience; it can be a long journey though.
Ara Scythe
Comment ID #39753
Yeah honestly, if he lost all of the people that he hangs with, the only real one he would lose is Daisy. Everyone else, has been pretty shitty towards him and they haven’t been called out enough.
Latrell Walker
Comment ID #39754
Let’s call it as it is: Mike and Sandy are only together because they feel sorry for each other.
But to be fair, it was Sandy who begged Mike to give her another chance, even though he knew it was best for both of them to break up. (Read “On Call” and “Another Flame”)
Profesor Pomelo
Comment ID #39755
Damn James don’t say that, you don’t even know Sandy. So you don’t know if she’s someone to even feel sorry for.
American Psycho
Comment ID #39756
Not to mention he barely even knows these people
Or the deep DEEP rabbit hole it goes of the years they went through together.
Rocky Wolfknight
Comment ID #39757
Isn’t that irrelevant? Mike’s girlfriend is supposed to be someone he really likes, enough to date, yet he’s apparently chasing around other people. Any regular person on the outside perspective would feel bad for the other partner if they heard of that situation.
Vito
Comment ID #39758
Meanwhile, James will pine over David. It is unknown whether David will care.
American Psycho
Comment ID #39759
this is too much smh
joey
Comment ID #39760
Honestly, this page kind of gives evidence to the idea that James is quick to toss Mike aside because he was tired of Mike hanging around while he was trying to cozy up to David.
Like, yeah, maybe Mike has ulterior motives and is grasping onto James because he wants attention, but, let’s be real, James has very little concrete evidence of it to be *this* brutal about it. We, as readers, may know about Mike’s past behavior, but James has very little reason to jump on this notion this hard. If you’ve ever had a friend who ditched you as soon as they got a new gf/bf, it feels a lot like that sort of behavior. Selfish and immature.
We can argue James is having a knee-jerk reaction to Mike’s aggressive reaction to Augustus, but, I dunno. I remember high school pretty well, and high schoolers understand “talk shit, get hit” as a rule, even if it’s not recommended since you’ll get in trouble. In this context, it just seems like a convenient excuse for James to push Mike away.
Kind of is a parallel to how Mike threw Lucy aside as soon as Sandy texted him in December.
Nev Ravenoak
Comment ID #39761
For the record, I’m happy to see Mike finally getting actual social consequences for his overblown reactions. I am just here for the sweet drama sauce, guys.
Nev Ravenoak
Comment ID #39762
I do want to point out that from James’ perspective, Mike was pretty insistent that he wanted things to work out between himself and Sandy, even if he’s presently miserable with her. Now, learning that Mike apparently has a habit of keeping people in his orbit who are or have been interested in him, I’m sure it all seems particularly scummy and dishonest of him. Is it still an overblown reaction? Probably, lol. They are dramatic teenagers at the end of the day.
Antares
Comment ID #39763
Right. My main point is that James doesn’t have much evidence to believe that’s happening besides a couple random haters starting stuff for no reason. However, I’m sure it’s a rather convenient excuse to toss aside the third wheel. Edit: Of course there’s also the fact Mike isn’t doing himself any favors here. His “poor me” act would put off most people. I just think James has other, more selfish reasons for being this harsh to Mike.
Nev Ravenoak
Comment ID #39764
What do you mean not much evidence? What would you consider “acceptable” evidence, him being in Mike’s room during December? He gave Mike multiple times to explain himself, asking if it was true, and Mike did NOT deny it. He also attacked Augustus, *not* when the Lucy stuff was revealed, but when Mike’s possessiveness over James was called out! He just saw Mike attack a dude right in front of him when it was pointed out, and then Mike refused to explain himself other than “I was mad”. Given he’s only known Mike for like 3 months, I don’t blame James at all lol
Snowstar837
Comment ID #39765
Evidence would be James seeing similar behavior for himself. You’re free to feel whatever you want, but I and other people think James is acting harshly for little justification. Of course, unless his real reason is to dump the inconvenient third wheel, it would make a lot more sense.
Nev Ravenoak
Comment ID #39766
Man f##k James and Poor Mike hope things get better for him
ABCDBUTLUR
Comment ID #39767
“I feel sorry for your gf (who I tried to steal you from)”
Sure you do James, sure you do.
SirPants
Comment ID #39768
Honestly, James is coming off as a hypocrite and I don’t know how to explain or put it in words
He’s so narrow minded cause he has NO idea how deep this history/rabbit hole really goes with this group
Rocky Wolfknight
Comment ID #39769
Of course he’s a hypocrite, he’s totally a hypocrite. James was knotted with anxiety that Mike might hate him for tricking Mike into a date-date and when the shoe is on the other foot he does exactly what he was afraid Mike would do to him.
I could get it if Mike was really stringing him along, because being lead on by a closeted guy who isn’t willing to break up with his gf sucks, but this? Pff, James isn’t even present enough to be strung along (except by David who is clearly moving on and doesn’t give af)
SirPants
Comment ID #39770
It’s frustrating he only knows one side and doesnt know the other
And Mike got all shutdown for trying to tell his side
Hope Paulo and others will fill him in just to show this isn’t so black and white
Rocky Wolfknight
Comment ID #39771
I don’t think he cares about anything Augustus said except the part that involved him. Lucy’s been repeatedly addressed by name and he’s just calling her “that girl” like he wasn’t listening.
SirPants
Comment ID #39772
Would that mean he likely has selective hearing too?
Or you think Theres a deeper meaning of how he got involved?
Like it isn’t the first time this happen before
Rocky Wolfknight
Comment ID #39773
Ok I’m sorry James, but I hope David gives you a reality check next time.
You have no idea the history every single one of these people have.
So fricken narrow minded and black and white view
Rocky Wolfknight
Comment ID #39774
Okay okay, so Mike did need to hear how he has certain issues from the mouth of someone like James and all but that last line was absolutely brutal. dude what the hell
esinololly
Comment ID #39775
That hurts. Augh, James. Much as I find Mike frustrating and I DO think he has these bad habits being harshly pointed out, I don’t think he’s doing it on purpose. I think he’s at least partially willfully ignorant of the pain it can cause at worst. And it’s kind of plain to see why here and I can’t help but be sympathetic to it! Mike is sensitive and easily overwhelmed when looking these things in the eye. He’s quick to feel defeated by the weight of it and declare himself a bad person, not knowing where to start on changing and it feels hopeless.
The guilt is there, he doesn’t LIKE hurting people. He’s not a malicious kid. But he swings back and forth so wildly from a huge defensive temper and refusing to admit fault, to laying down and simply calling himself unworthy trash who deserves every bad thing. And nowhere in between either of those extremes is an intention to do better. Because when he’s angry, he doesn’t feel like he should have to or he’s done anything wrong, and when he’s feeling defeated, it just doesn’t feel possible. This kid just really needs help.
I don’t hate James for this though. While he is definitely fickle as we know, and this is rough stuff, it’s not necessarily his job to be picking the pieces up for Mike right now. And flippantly as he seems to cheerfully head inside with David, I think this dialogue reveals he’s got a lot on his mind right now under the surface and is pretty hurt by the implications of all this, seeing the recent behavior in a new light. The idea of Mike encouraging and enjoying his rejected feelings, or that his getting in the way of his attempts to move on and get closer to David has been intentional clearly doesn’t sit amazingly well with him. And I can’t reaaaally fault him for that. Even though it’s sad to see him be the one essentially kicking Mike while he’s down, I’m sure that’s not what he’s doing in his own head. Right now he’s focused on his own previously spurned feelings and can’t keep quiet about that, especially when Mike framed that request the way he did.
mobsterseeker
Comment ID #39776
Honestly he’s so narrow minded cause he doesn’t even know these people or the rabbit hole of the history this goes way back to with the main cast.
Plus, if I’m being honest, he’s kinda being a hypocrite cause didn’t he sort of pull similar things with Paulo, Mike when he tried to kiss him, and now David?
Rocky Wolfknight
Comment ID #39777
not… really? the race was a stupid thing, but that was David’s idea, and James wasn’t aware Paulo had a crush on him until that moment. and David’s a free man, there’s nothing wrong with James flirting with him
him trying to get Mike to dump Sandy for him was done in a sucky manner, but it’s not really on the level of things Mike’s being accused of
SomeColourMage
Comment ID #39778
@Rocky Wolfknight Nope. James might be an airhead, a himbo if you’d like, but he isn’t as insecure as Mike or overall a self-centered person to want others to pin for him like Mike. He accepted Mike wasn’t interested and moved onto David. He didn’t even consider Paulo a possibility given he caught glimpses of Paulo and Daisy’s crush on each other but felt naturally flattered that Paulo would feel that way about him.
Jessie Lou
Comment ID #39779
Don’t feel bad for Sandy because I don’t feel bad for Cheaters but that IS a good question.
It was delivered by the wrong guy imo but a good question indeed: DOES he expect people to pine after him forever?
Calico Dragonalia
Comment ID #39780
Mike please for the love of god I wish you sat with your new track friends, they invited you and everything
Jonah Sanville (firelight_waltz)
Comment ID #39781
He can’t, like literally can’t, especially now. With Lucy and Augustus going inside to avoid him, and now James’ reaction, he has nowhere to go especially when James tells the rest of the team.
jordan sanford
Comment ID #39782
Oh I used the wrong tense, I meant that he should’VE sat with them when he had the chance
Jonah Sanville (firelight_waltz)
Comment ID #39783
alternative title for this chapter: mike experiences murphy’s law
Aria
Comment ID #39784
this poor boy is getting beat over the head with his choice of “the pain of staying the same” over “the pain of change”. i wonder when his time is gonna come that he finally chooses the latter instead.
Aria
Comment ID #39785
And now Mike is forever alone.
SCD
Comment ID #39786
Mike needs to get out of the black and white lens he goes into. It’s like he sees either things are perfect or they’re horrible. Lucy was his best friend but also his worst bully. These situations are full of context and based on perspective and he needs to hopefully see that. He hurt Lucy, and Lucy hurt him, too. I like this conflict though because you see this sort of mentality even play out in us readers, falling into a Lucy or Mike defender camp. They both acted out in this interaction. They both got physical and in my opinion that took it too far on both their ends. Even still, Mike definitely got socially dog piled, which in some perspectives is justified. He’s snapped at a lot of people for trying to give advice about Sandy, which I think is really that it challenges his perfect relationship image. He’s apologized for some of it at least, but still seems to struggle with correcting that behavior. And the situation with Lucy? It’s a big fat grey area where both of them were not great. The thing to also learn here, if he wants to develop healthier relationships, is it’s not justified to blow up on someone when they do something that hurts you - not if you intend to still have some form of friendship or reconciliation with them. There are other ways to communicate, though I don’t know exactly what that looks like at this point. In regards to lunch, on a totally different note, I genuinely worry about Mike not eating and really pushing himself on a sport. I know EDs are nasty work, and people can have them without even realizing. Maybe that’s a little bit of projection from me as a reader, but if the hints of him ignoring his hunger the past couple chapter are indicating he’s falling into that, I would be very concerned. Because of this black and white thinking, I feel that’s also why he went to a place of “I’m an awful person” when confronted by August before. But compounded with low nutrition and ED type thoughts? That sort of mentality is rough.
Ami
Comment ID #39787
what’s an ED? Emotional Distress? Extreme Depression?
Keith S.
Comment ID #39788
Eating disorder
Moonberry Jam
Comment ID #39789
Ah so sweet… so delicious… finally… thank you Oliver, Veronica… so deserved, so timely… eat shit Mike how dare you hurt my sweet perfect angel
orange slice
Comment ID #39790
Woah, this is such a parallel to page 32 of December. How the tables have turned!
Jessie Lou
Comment ID #39791
reading through all this, its so strange how here is Team Lucy but Reddit is Team Mike. The differences are staggering.
And yet I’m so scared to see what comes next.
Kuru
Comment ID #39792
I’ve seen pretty equal amounts here? A bit more team Mike the last few pages, haha. Maybe they’re just more aggressive so it feels that way? =~= Idk.
Comacoma
Comment ID #39793
Could be gender of the reader?
Xiro
Comment ID #39794
Wiping a tear from my eye… it’s beautiful.
While I never had anything messy like this, boy am I glad I’m no longer a teenager.
James doesn’t know the whole story, but honestly? Why would he want to? I’d want to keep what sounds like a disaster of a situation far, far away from me.
Vito
Comment ID #39795
thiiiiissss
Comacoma
Comment ID #39796
I mean, bold words from a guy who was hoping Mike would cheat with him
Fiver
Comment ID #39797
James: Stop COCKBLOCKING ME, MIKE. GOD
nalem
Comment ID #39798
now Mike gets to feel pain! Yay Drama!
Amione
Comment ID #39799
Well shit.
PAM
Comment ID #39800
“I feel sorry for your GF”, said by the guy who kissed the person in a relationship without consent..
The Great Clockwork Gatsby
Comment ID #39801
I don’t think James knew about Sandy at the time.
Sidneyena
Comment ID #39802
“I knew that? I knew that! But I kinda thought… I could change your mind…” Is his exact words, but he also a few pages later said he respected mikes long distance relationship, so I think it all comes down to “I can see he is sad because of this, but if he wants to stick it out it’s his choice to make”
Inu Kunai
Comment ID #39803
So that’s it huh. Who has Mike got left now? Abbey?
Sidneyena
Comment ID #39804
What about Paulo, and the whole gaming group? He can’t hang out with them at lunch now but they’re not devoid from his life?
Xiro
Comment ID #39805
Paulo, Daisy, and Sue all still want to be friends with him, but since he can’t sit at the table anymore because of Lucy, he’s going to (falsely) take that as his friend’s abandoning him. The track team? James is going to be there during practices and general hangouts among the team, so Mike would probably want to avoid them too.
starblandd
Comment ID #39806
I’ll admit it’s conjecture, but I get the feeling that James’ comments re: Sandy are because, as far as he can see, if Mike had accepted his advances, that’s the end of it, Sandy would just be hurt by a break up and that’s it, while what Mike’s been doing reads to James as more akin to, surprise surprise for this chapter, leading her on when Mike’s nowhere near as dedicated to making it work as he was trying to give the impression of. so I don’t think it’s supposed to come of as hypocrisy, I think James does have cause to believe that Sandy’s being treated worse than his plan to win over Mike did. it still sucked, but I can see why it’s not considered equivalent
SomeColourMage
Comment ID #39807
This feels like such a perfect parallel to December; I hope Lucy is the one that breaks the cycle and reaches out to Mike when she realizes how bad that conversation must have felt.
Either that, or Paulo and Daisy drag Mike out with them and show him what a healthy relationship looks like.
Or Lucy’s mom notices his expression and talks to his parents??
I’ll take anything for the healing to begin!!
*trigger warning*
I really hope Mike doesn’t get the chance to do anything to himself, because he seems like the kind of person who would do it in such a way that he doesn’t leave a mess and maybe no one ever finds him.
OH GOD, WHAT IF HE GOES TO THE RIVER???
Elizabeth Hunter
Comment ID #39808
Also: this parallel works even better BECAUSE James is being so shitty and narrow minded. That’s exactly how Mike was viewing his relationship with Lucy in December!
He was ignoring all of the good parts of their past and focusing on the worst parts. Lucy was abusive and violent, but we’ve also seen that there were good times where they opened up and supported each other.
James had Augustus pouring poison in his ear the same way Sandy was on the phone with Mike back then; acting like there’s only one side to the story and that one person has to be to blame.
This is why black and white thinking is a trap; every situation has nuance, but you have to take the time to look for it. These kids are so stuck on finding the “perfect victim” that they’re turning themselves into the villains.
Elizabeth Hunter